Holography and astrology

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Astrology PROVES and is not a theory, but yes, it proves that we are all

connected, like drops of water which follow each other down a flowing river.

All the material in the universe, including the atoms of our bodies, are

floating together. It is known that our solar system is moving TOGETHER

through the stars like a frisbee disc flying through space. The rest of space

, or I mean the matter, the stars etc., are also all interrelated inasmuch as a

black hole sucks what is around it, not something far away, yet.

All is interrelated. This is actually VERY basic, but yet to be grasped by most

humans. This is one reason I dislike Christianity so much- it propounds that

you can be totally separate. Actually this is taught by any “God the

Father Personalism” religion including Vaisnavism. That’s why the

Hare Krishna movement doesn’t allow Jyotish ads in their main movement

magazine. The fact is, predeterminism and “all is one” thought

flys in the face of the idea of “Praying to God to change my life”.

There is a one, a whole, a flow, which is going on. Jyotish proves this. And

if you think of Jyotish, how charts are formed, you will see that children born

close in time in nearby cities have very similar but slightly different charts,

and they usually end up enduring the same things in life...the same schools,

the same local leaders, the same local weather, sometimes the same death from

natural disaster,...etc.

It’s so clear to me, personally. I need no theories from any scientist.

The blowing wind first hits the tree on the edge of the yard, then the next,

then the next, in perfect order... There is nothing random, ever, ever,

ever....all is one, in a flow, ALL IS ONE. There is NO escape either, only

SARANAGATI or SURRENDER

Maya, the delusion, is thinking we are separate. Again this is why I dislike

“RELIGIONS” which “TEACH (?)” that you are an

“individual” with “free will”.

They should look at the words. “WILL” means only

“WANTING”. Hah! Not GETTING.

Over and out,

Rishard MachAeoidh

Speaking like a celt, and a hindu, because, we used to all be one, there’s that word again

Reeshart Mach Aeoidh

 

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On Apr 23, 2006, at 8:54 AM, Das Goravani wrote:

 

> Astrology PROVES and is not a theory, but yes, it proves that we

> are all connected, like drops of water which follow each other down

> a flowing river.

 

astrology provides that useful information.

it's humbling to know that it's all written,

scripted, and all we need do is flow with the river.

 

> All the material in the universe, including the atoms of our

> bodies, are floating together. It is known that our solar system

> is moving TOGETHER through the stars like a frisbee disc flying

> through space. The rest of space , or I mean the matter, the stars

> etc., are also all interrelated inasmuch as a black hole sucks what

> is around it, not something far away, yet.

 

i have a friend who calls it 'energy soup.'

 

> All is interrelated. This is actually VERY basic, but yet to be

> grasped by most humans. This is one reason I dislike Christianity

> so much- it propounds that you can be totally separate. Actually

> this is taught by any “God the Father Personalism” religion

> including Vaisnavism. That’s why the Hare Krishna movement doesn’t

> allow Jyotish ads in their main movement magazine. The fact is,

> predeterminism and “all is one” thought flys in the face of the

> idea of “Praying to God to change my life”.

 

yes, very superstitious.

and yet, i read a lot of superstition on this list too.

to me, if it involves fear, it is superstition.

 

> There is a one, a whole, a flow, which is going on. Jyotish proves

> this. And if you think of Jyotish, how charts are formed, you will

> see that children born close in time in nearby cities have very

> similar but slightly different charts, and they usually end up

> enduring the same things in life...the same schools, the same local

> leaders, the same local weather, sometimes the same death from

> natural disaster,...etc.

 

yes, it's beautiful.

>

> It’s so clear to me, personally. I need no theories from any

> scientist. The blowing wind first hits the tree on the edge of the

> yard, then the next, then the next, in perfect order... There is

> nothing random, ever, ever, ever....all is one, in a flow, ALL IS

> ONE. There is NO escape either, only SARANAGATI or SURRENDER

 

surrender to what, das?

i get from many of the posts here that the idea

is to 'surrender to 'fate'/the 'inevitable'' -- and suffer.

is that what all the masters have meant by 'surrender'?

i personally don't think so.

i think it is more as rumi and the other more romantic poets

have said, to surrender to the Lover. to Love itself...

to the Power of Life, which is the ultimate pleasure...

'absolute beauty' is what socrates called it.

>

> Maya, the delusion, is thinking we are separate. Again this is why

> I dislike “RELIGIONS” which “TEACH (?)” that you are an

> “individual” with “free will”.

 

i don't agree with religions that think we are separate from

one another or separate from the creative force, 'God.'

this is how i would read the concept of 'free will'...

we can choose, in any moment,

to identify with our idea of separation and

experience the fear and tension that engenders,

or enjoy the fact of oneness... absolute beauty.

that 'quiet melting in', that delicious acceptance of BEING.

that is where our 'free will' lies... not in 'doing.'

free will is our choice of where we place our attention.

we are always surrendered -- either to the limited mind,

the idea of separation -- or the awareness of unlimited, energy soup.

when we surrender to the flow of the river, the soup,

we are reliniquishing our loose canon of attention (judgment,

fear, anger, sorrow, grief, etc) to the nature of love, life, which

is all

that truly exists. the rest is just our trying to swim upstream.

we can be invested in the idea that things should be different --

fight the flow of the river -- or just let go and be in the flow of

life, breath...

in this moment. in the now. fully present. conscious. aware. nice.

 

right use of free will = intention to join with the 'forever'...

moment by moment, breath by breath.

 

> They should look at the words. “WILL” means only “WANTING”. Hah!

> Not GETTING.

 

my dictionary says something quite different.

nothing about wanting. perhaps you are thinking

of the word, 'wish'?

 

love, patricia

 

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