RE: Adi6Engineer: arudha and upapada lagnas (for Juliana and all)

[Guest guest]

Dear Juliana,

 

thanks for the explanation, last line upapada,(is it upapada lagna) I didn't

understand arudha of the 12th house, how to find out upapada lagna in a chart.

 

Thanks & regards

 

Adi

 

 

valist [valist]On Behalf Of

John

Saturday, April 08, 2006 5:35 PM

valist

Adi6Engineer: Re: arudha and upapada lagnas (for Juliana

and all)

 

 

Namaste Juliana and all:

 

You wrote an excellent explanation of these padas. Maharishi Jaimini

has a gold mine of astrological observations that jyotishis should

apply in their modern day chart analyses. For example, the slokas

relating to the navamsha lagna and the karakamsa should be applied to

the arudha lagna as well. As such, the jyotishi can better

understand the breadth of an individual's cosmic potential.

 

Regards,

 

John R.

 

 

 

valist, "Juliana Swanson" <omhamsa wrote:

>

> Hi Adi,

>

> Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra (Ch. 29) and also Jaimini Sutras

> discuss arudha padas. As I have been taught, they are secondary

> ascendants or secondary houses used to judge certain affairs.

>

> BPHS Ch. 29 1.3 says "Method of Bhava Calculation. O Brahmin, I

> shall now tell you about the Padas (Arudhas) for Bhavas and Grahas

> as well, as laid down by the earlier Maharishis. The Pad of Lagn

> will correspond to the Rashi, arrived at by counting so many Rashis

> from Lagn's Lord, as he is away from Tanu Bhava. Similarly Padas

for

> other Bhavas be known through their Lords. The word "Pad"

> exclusively denotes the Pad for Lagn...4-5. Special Exceptions. The

> same Bhava, or the 7th from it does not become its Pad. When the

Pad

> falls in the same Bhava, the 10th therefrom be treated, as its Pad.

> Similarly, when the 7th becomes the Pad of a Bhava, the 4th from

the

> original Bhava in question be treated, as its Pad. If the ruler of

a

> Bhava be in the 4th from the Bhava, then the very Bhava occupied be

> noted, as the Pad."

>

> So for the arudha pada of any house,

> 1. look at the distance between that house and the ruler of that

> house. Count (inclusively) how many houses the ruler is from the

> house.

> 2. next look at the ruler and count from that ruler the number of

> houses calculated in #1 above, and that is the arudha pada

> 3. when an arudha pada opposes the original house, the arudha pada

> becomes the fourth house from the original house; when an arudha

> pada falls in the original house, the arudha pada will fall in the

> 10th house from the original house

>

> Arudha padas are thought by some to be images of the houses they

> represent, and because we live in the world of maya, these images

> may seem real. I am fascinated by this deeply profound and

> mysterious concept that does not exist in Western astrology, as far

> as I know.

>

> The Arudha Lagna (AL) or Lagna Pada is the pada of the 1st house

and

> can be read as the 1st house of an AL chart. You can read Jaimini

> aspects and yogas with this chart and especially should be

> interested in the aspects and yogas related to the AL itself. You

> will also want to carefully analyze where the lord of the AL goes

in

> the rasi chart.

>

> Whereas the Janma Lagna represents the true self, the AL may show

> how an individual is perceived in physical reality. It may show the

> apparent status of the individual and the maya of personality. On

> the outside, an individual may be perceived as her AL, whereas

> within, she feels more like her Janma Lagna.

>

> I like to read the AL in relation to the rasi chart. For instance,

> if you see an AL in the 3rd house of the rasi chakra, this person

> may appear to have a very lively and dynamic personality. If in the

> 7th, the native may be relationship oriented.

>

> In the US Kelleher chart [07/04/1776, 18:30:00, DST/WT 0,

> Philadelphia, PA, USA, Time Zone 5.00, Lat. 39 N 57, Long. 75 W 9],

> the Janma Lagna is Sagittarius, and its lord Jupiter is in the 7th

> house. So to get the AL you count from the 1st to the 7th, but then

> 7 houses from 7 is the first, so when an arudha pada falls in the

> original house, the arudha pada will move to the 10th house from

the

> original house, which is Virgo, where Saturn is posited. So perhaps

> we could say that the image of the United States being portrayed to

> the outside world reflects the placement of Saturn in Mercury's

> constellation of Virgo, in the 10th house, which reveals big

> government, leadership, power, an authoritative or demanding

> attitude, efficiency, bossiness...whatever. Then, we can look at

the

> potent Jaimini aspects from all those 7th house planets in

Mercury's

> other constellation of Gemini--Sun, Mars, Venus and Jupiter--to get

> an even clearer picture of this image.

>

> The Upapada (UP) is the arudha of the 12th house. It is used to

> analzye relationships espcially of a sexual or romantic type.

>

> Best regards,

> Juliana

>

>

>

> valist, "Engineer, Adi" <aengineer@> wrote:

>

> >

> > can someone tell me how to determine arudha and upapada lagnas in

> a

> chart, and what does this lagnas signifies, like ascendant or lagna

> in

> a rashi chart signifies self, what doest these 2 lagnas signify and

> how to calculate them.

> >

> > Thanks & regards

> >

> > Adi

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Links

[Guest guest]

Dear Juliana,

 

thanks for the explanation again,

 

take my chart as example

 

23 apr 1955

8.04am

Bombay

 

so my upapada is 2nd house, and the ruler of upapada is mercury, so what that

will signify, as my married life is not good, or do I have to take mars ruling

12th house for bad pleasure.

 

Can you explain more.

 

Thanks & regards

 

Adi

 

 

valist [valist]On Behalf Of

Juliana Swanson

Monday, April 10, 2006 12:08 PM

valist

Adi6Engineer: Re: arudha and upapada lagnas (for Juliana

and all)

 

 

Hi Adi,

 

Sorry about the confusion. The Arudha of any house is found the way

I explained before:

 

1. Look at the distance between the house in question and the ruler

of that house. Count (inclusively) how many houses the ruler is from

the house.

 

2. Next, look at the ruler and count from that ruler the number of

houses calculated in #1 above, and that is the arudha pada.

 

3. When an arudha pada opposes the original house, the arudha pada

becomes the fourth house from the original house; when an arudha

pada falls in the original house, the arudha pada will fall in the

10th house from the original house. *These rules are controversial,

and not all astrologers follow them. In other words, some astrolgers

do not move the padas to the fourth or tenth houses in these

circumstances.

 

The "arudha pada" of the 12th house is also known simply as

the "arudha" of the 12th house, or it is also known simply as

the "pada" of the 12th house. The arudha pada of the 12th house is

called the upapada (UP or 12P). The upapada is used to analyze

relationships. We can also analyze relationships by looking at the

dara arudha pada (also called A7 or 7P) which is the arudha of the

7th house. The UP, however, is considered more important than the A7

because the 7th house has more to do with business relationships and

the 12th house has more to do with sexual or love relationships.

 

1. Arudha pada of the 1st house is Arudha Lagna (also called AL or

1P).

2. Arudha pada of the 2nd house is Dhana Pada (also called A2 or 2P).

3. Arudha pada of the 3rd house is Bhatri or Vikrama Pada (also

called A3 or 3P).

4. Arudha pada of the 4th house is Matri or Sukha Pada (also called

A4 or 4P).

5. Arudha Pada of the 5th house is Putra or Mantra Pada (also called

A5 or 5P).

6. Arudha pada of the 6th house is Gnati, Roga or Satru Pada (also

called A6 or 6P).

7. Arudha pada of the 7th house is Dara Pada (also called A7 or 7P).

8. Arudha pada of the 8th house is Mrityu or Roga Pada also called

A8 or 8P).

9. Arudha pada of the 9th house is Bhagya Pada (also called A9 or

9P).

10.Arudha pada of the 10th house is Rajya Pada (also called A10 or

10P).

11.Arudha pada of the 11th house is Labha Pada (also called A11 or

11P).

12.Arudha pada of the 12th house is Upapada or Vyapada (also called

UL or 12P).

 

To help you understand how to calculate the UL, if for instance, in

a Scorpio Lagna chart, the 12th house ruler is Venus, and Venus is

posited in the 2nd house, count from the 12th to the 2nd = 3, now

count 3 more houses from the 2nd = to the 4th, so the UL or 12P

(upapada) is the 4th house of the rasi chart. Upapada is not called

an upapada "lagna." Just call it "upapada." The word "lagna" is just

attributed to the AL, also known as 1P, Aruda Lagna, or Lagna Pada.

 

All the arudha padas can be read as *reflections* of the houses from

which they are derived. Perhaps the reason this subject can be so

confusing to comprehend is that arudhas are mere reflections; thus,

their very nature is illusory? Nonetheless, it is a fabulously

mysterious topic.

 

Best,

Juliana

 

 

 

valist, "Engineer, Adi" <aengineer wrote:

>

> Dear Juliana,

>

> thanks for the explanation, last line upapada,(is it upapada

lagna) I didn't understand arudha of the 12th house, how to find out

upapada lagna in a chart.

>

> Thanks & regards

>

> Adi

>

>

> valist [valist]On

Behalf Of

> John

> Saturday, April 08, 2006 5:35 PM

> valist

> Adi6Engineer: Re: arudha and upapada lagnas (for

Juliana

> and all)

>

>

> Namaste Juliana and all:

>

> You wrote an excellent explanation of these padas. Maharishi

Jaimini

> has a gold mine of astrological observations that jyotishis should

> apply in their modern day chart analyses. For example, the slokas

> relating to the navamsha lagna and the karakamsa should be applied

to

> the arudha lagna as well. As such, the jyotishi can better

> understand the breadth of an individual's cosmic potential.

>

> Regards,

>

> John R.

>

>

>

> valist, "Juliana Swanson" <omhamsa@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Adi,

> >

> > Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra (Ch. 29) and also Jaimini Sutras

> > discuss arudha padas. As I have been taught, they are secondary

> > ascendants or secondary houses used to judge certain affairs.

> >

> > BPHS Ch. 29 1.3 says "Method of Bhava Calculation. O Brahmin, I

> > shall now tell you about the Padas (Arudhas) for Bhavas and

Grahas

> > as well, as laid down by the earlier Maharishis. The Pad of Lagn

> > will correspond to the Rashi, arrived at by counting so many

Rashis

> > from Lagn's Lord, as he is away from Tanu Bhava. Similarly Padas

> for

> > other Bhavas be known through their Lords. The word "Pad"

> > exclusively denotes the Pad for Lagn...4-5. Special Exceptions.

The

> > same Bhava, or the 7th from it does not become its Pad. When the

> Pad

> > falls in the same Bhava, the 10th therefrom be treated, as its

Pad.

> > Similarly, when the 7th becomes the Pad of a Bhava, the 4th from

> the

> > original Bhava in question be treated, as its Pad. If the ruler

of

> a

> > Bhava be in the 4th from the Bhava, then the very Bhava occupied

be

> > noted, as the Pad."

> >

> > So for the arudha pada of any house,

> > 1. look at the distance between that house and the ruler of that

> > house. Count (inclusively) how many houses the ruler is from the

> > house.

> > 2. next look at the ruler and count from that ruler the number

of

> > houses calculated in #1 above, and that is the arudha pada

> > 3. when an arudha pada opposes the original house, the arudha

pada

> > becomes the fourth house from the original house; when an arudha

> > pada falls in the original house, the arudha pada will fall in

the

> > 10th house from the original house

> >

> > Arudha padas are thought by some to be images of the houses they

> > represent, and because we live in the world of maya, these

images

> > may seem real. I am fascinated by this deeply profound and

> > mysterious concept that does not exist in Western astrology, as

far

> > as I know.

> >

> > The Arudha Lagna (AL) or Lagna Pada is the pada of the 1st house

> and

> > can be read as the 1st house of an AL chart. You can read

Jaimini

> > aspects and yogas with this chart and especially should be

> > interested in the aspects and yogas related to the AL itself.

You

> > will also want to carefully analyze where the lord of the AL

goes

> in

> > the rasi chart.

> >

> > Whereas the Janma Lagna represents the true self, the AL may

show

> > how an individual is perceived in physical reality. It may show

the

> > apparent status of the individual and the maya of personality.

On

> > the outside, an individual may be perceived as her AL, whereas

> > within, she feels more like her Janma Lagna.

> >

> > I like to read the AL in relation to the rasi chart. For

instance,

> > if you see an AL in the 3rd house of the rasi chakra, this

person

> > may appear to have a very lively and dynamic personality. If in

the

> > 7th, the native may be relationship oriented.

> >

> > In the US Kelleher chart [07/04/1776, 18:30:00, DST/WT 0,

> > Philadelphia, PA, USA, Time Zone 5.00, Lat. 39 N 57, Long. 75 W

9],

> > the Janma Lagna is Sagittarius, and its lord Jupiter is in the

7th

> > house. So to get the AL you count from the 1st to the 7th, but

then

> > 7 houses from 7 is the first, so when an arudha pada falls in

the

> > original house, the arudha pada will move to the 10th house from

> the

> > original house, which is Virgo, where Saturn is posited. So

perhaps

> > we could say that the image of the United States being portrayed

to

> > the outside world reflects the placement of Saturn in Mercury's

> > constellation of Virgo, in the 10th house, which reveals big

> > government, leadership, power, an authoritative or demanding

> > attitude, efficiency, bossiness...whatever. Then, we can look at

> the

> > potent Jaimini aspects from all those 7th house planets in

> Mercury's

> > other constellation of Gemini--Sun, Mars, Venus and Jupiter--to

get

> > an even clearer picture of this image.

> >

> > The Upapada (UP) is the arudha of the 12th house. It is used to

> > analzye relationships espcially of a sexual or romantic type.

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Juliana

> >

> >

> >

> > valist, "Engineer, Adi" <aengineer@>

wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > can someone tell me how to determine arudha and upapada lagnas

in

> > a

> > chart, and what does this lagnas signifies, like ascendant or

lagna

> > in

> > a rashi chart signifies self, what doest these 2 lagnas signify

and

> > how to calculate them.

> > >

> > > Thanks & regards

> > >

> > > Adi

> > >

> >

>

 

>

> Links

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Links

[Guest guest]

Hi Juliana,

 

thanks a lot, understood a little, will take some time to get it as my mercury

(intelligence) is fully combust and in 12th (loss), that's why!

 

Regards

 

Adi

 

 

valist [valist]On Behalf Of

Juliana Swanson

Monday, April 10, 2006 2:12 PM

valist

Adi6Engineer: Re: arudha and upapada lagnas (for Juliana

and all)

 

 

Hi Adi and all...

 

There are many ways to analyze relationships. Just briefly, you

should first analyze Venus, Jupiter and the 7th house and 7th lord

in your Rasi and Navamsa charts to understand your relationship

potential. The chara darakaraka will tell about the soul of your

partner (Venus in your chart).

 

The UL shows the people you give most to in your life, such as

partner and children perhaps? The first partner can be seen from the

UL; second partner = 8th house from the UL; etc.

 

Parasara teaches us that if the UL has a benefic in it,

and if its lord is benefic, marriage will be happy. If there is a

malefic influence, relationship will be problematic. So there is a

mixed influence, isn't there, with Venus, Jupiter and the nodes all

influencing the UL via association and rasi aspects. Maybe

relationship starts out good but then there are problems? I wonder

if the problems are in part because the UL is *6th* from the AL?

 

The lord of the UL tells a lot about the spouse and her family. As

you say it is Mercury in the 12th house of the rasi chart... and it

is combust/weak. You can also look at the 2nd house from the UL to

see the direction the marriage will go, as the 2nd house shows how

we develop and enjoy what we have gained. The 2nd from the UL is

Cancer ruled by the dark Moon in the 12h of the rasi chart, and Mars

casts a rasi aspect from the 1st house of the rasi chart to Cancer,

its sign of debilitation. This Mars influence may be challenging for

family or marital happiness.

 

You can read the UL as a lagna for the marriage partner and go from

there to understand more about the partner.

 

Also the *A7* darapada is conjunct the *A6* in the 4th house of the

rasi chart/8th from the AL, so this also may be problematical in

that the marriage relationship does not always give happiness.

 

If I were giving you a reading, I would probably focus on your many

strengths and suggest remedies to purify the challenging karmas and

enhance a state of inner contentment so you could attract more

enjoyment in your relationships and all affairs. The difficult

relationship challenges can be overcome, as there is always a remedy.

 

Best,

Juliana

 

 

valist, "Engineer, Adi" <aengineer wrote:

>

> Dear Juliana,

>

> thanks for the explanation again,

>

> take my chart as example

>

> 23 apr 1955

> 8.04am

> Bombay

>

> so my upapada is 2nd house, and the ruler of upapada is mercury,

so what that will signify, as my married life is not good, or do I

have to take mars ruling 12th house for bad pleasure.

>

> Can you explain more.

>

> Thanks & regards

>

> Adi

>

>

> valist [valist]On

Behalf Of

> Juliana Swanson

> Monday, April 10, 2006 12:08 PM

> valist

> Adi6Engineer: Re: arudha and upapada lagnas (for

Juliana

> and all)

>

>

> Hi Adi,

>

> Sorry about the confusion. The Arudha of any house is found the

way

> I explained before:

>

> 1. Look at the distance between the house in question and the

ruler

> of that house. Count (inclusively) how many houses the ruler is

from

> the house.

>

> 2. Next, look at the ruler and count from that ruler the number of

> houses calculated in #1 above, and that is the arudha pada.

>

> 3. When an arudha pada opposes the original house, the arudha pada

> becomes the fourth house from the original house; when an arudha

> pada falls in the original house, the arudha pada will fall in the

> 10th house from the original house. *These rules are

controversial,

> and not all astrologers follow them. In other words, some

astrolgers

> do not move the padas to the fourth or tenth houses in these

> circumstances.

>

> The "arudha pada" of the 12th house is also known simply as

> the "arudha" of the 12th house, or it is also known simply as

> the "pada" of the 12th house. The arudha pada of the 12th house is

> called the upapada (UP or 12P). The upapada is used to analyze

> relationships. We can also analyze relationships by looking at the

> dara arudha pada (also called A7 or 7P) which is the arudha of the

> 7th house. The UP, however, is considered more important than the

A7

> because the 7th house has more to do with business relationships

and

> the 12th house has more to do with sexual or love relationships.

>

> 1. Arudha pada of the 1st house is Arudha Lagna (also called AL or

> 1P).

> 2. Arudha pada of the 2nd house is Dhana Pada (also called A2 or

2P).

> 3. Arudha pada of the 3rd house is Bhatri or Vikrama Pada (also

> called A3 or 3P).

> 4. Arudha pada of the 4th house is Matri or Sukha Pada (also

called

> A4 or 4P).

> 5. Arudha Pada of the 5th house is Putra or Mantra Pada (also

called

> A5 or 5P).

> 6. Arudha pada of the 6th house is Gnati, Roga or Satru Pada (also

> called A6 or 6P).

> 7. Arudha pada of the 7th house is Dara Pada (also called A7 or

7P).

> 8. Arudha pada of the 8th house is Mrityu or Roga Pada also called

> A8 or 8P).

> 9. Arudha pada of the 9th house is Bhagya Pada (also called A9 or

> 9P).

> 10.Arudha pada of the 10th house is Rajya Pada (also called A10 or

> 10P).

> 11.Arudha pada of the 11th house is Labha Pada (also called A11 or

> 11P).

> 12.Arudha pada of the 12th house is Upapada or Vyapada (also

called

> UL or 12P).

>

> To help you understand how to calculate the UL, if for instance,

in

> a Scorpio Lagna chart, the 12th house ruler is Venus, and Venus is

> posited in the 2nd house, count from the 12th to the 2nd = 3, now

> count 3 more houses from the 2nd = to the 4th, so the UL or 12P

> (upapada) is the 4th house of the rasi chart. Upapada is not

called

> an upapada "lagna." Just call it "upapada." The word "lagna" is

just

> attributed to the AL, also known as 1P, Aruda Lagna, or Lagna Pada.

>

> All the arudha padas can be read as *reflections* of the houses

from

> which they are derived. Perhaps the reason this subject can be so

> confusing to comprehend is that arudhas are mere reflections;

thus,

> their very nature is illusory? Nonetheless, it is a fabulously

> mysterious topic.

>

> Best,

> Juliana

>

>

>

> valist, "Engineer, Adi" <aengineer@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Juliana,

> >

> > thanks for the explanation, last line upapada,(is it upapada

> lagna) I didn't understand arudha of the 12th house, how to find

out

> upapada lagna in a chart.

> >

> > Thanks & regards

> >

> > Adi

> >

> >

> > valist [valist]On

> Behalf Of

> > John

> > Saturday, April 08, 2006 5:35 PM

> > valist

> > Adi6Engineer: Re: arudha and upapada lagnas (for

> Juliana

> > and all)

> >

> >

> > Namaste Juliana and all:

> >

> > You wrote an excellent explanation of these padas. Maharishi

> Jaimini

> > has a gold mine of astrological observations that jyotishis

should

> > apply in their modern day chart analyses. For example, the

slokas

> > relating to the navamsha lagna and the karakamsa should be

applied

> to

> > the arudha lagna as well. As such, the jyotishi can better

> > understand the breadth of an individual's cosmic potential.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > John R.

> >

> >

> >

> > valist, "Juliana Swanson" <omhamsa@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi Adi,

> > >

> > > Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra (Ch. 29) and also Jaimini Sutras

> > > discuss arudha padas. As I have been taught, they are

secondary

> > > ascendants or secondary houses used to judge certain affairs.

> > >

> > > BPHS Ch. 29 1.3 says "Method of Bhava Calculation. O Brahmin,

I

> > > shall now tell you about the Padas (Arudhas) for Bhavas and

> Grahas

> > > as well, as laid down by the earlier Maharishis. The Pad of

Lagn

> > > will correspond to the Rashi, arrived at by counting so many

> Rashis

> > > from Lagn's Lord, as he is away from Tanu Bhava. Similarly

Padas

> > for

> > > other Bhavas be known through their Lords. The word "Pad"

> > > exclusively denotes the Pad for Lagn...4-5. Special

Exceptions.

> The

> > > same Bhava, or the 7th from it does not become its Pad. When

the

> > Pad

> > > falls in the same Bhava, the 10th therefrom be treated, as its

> Pad.

> > > Similarly, when the 7th becomes the Pad of a Bhava, the 4th

from

> > the

> > > original Bhava in question be treated, as its Pad. If the

ruler

> of

> > a

> > > Bhava be in the 4th from the Bhava, then the very Bhava

occupied

> be

> > > noted, as the Pad."

> > >

> > > So for the arudha pada of any house,

> > > 1. look at the distance between that house and the ruler of

that

> > > house. Count (inclusively) how many houses the ruler is from

the

> > > house.

> > > 2. next look at the ruler and count from that ruler the number

> of

> > > houses calculated in #1 above, and that is the arudha pada

> > > 3. when an arudha pada opposes the original house, the arudha

> pada

> > > becomes the fourth house from the original house; when an

arudha

> > > pada falls in the original house, the arudha pada will fall in

> the

> > > 10th house from the original house

> > >

> > > Arudha padas are thought by some to be images of the houses

they

> > > represent, and because we live in the world of maya, these

> images

> > > may seem real. I am fascinated by this deeply profound and

> > > mysterious concept that does not exist in Western astrology,

as

> far

> > > as I know.

> > >

> > > The Arudha Lagna (AL) or Lagna Pada is the pada of the 1st

house

> > and

> > > can be read as the 1st house of an AL chart. You can read

> Jaimini

> > > aspects and yogas with this chart and especially should be

> > > interested in the aspects and yogas related to the AL itself.

> You

> > > will also want to carefully analyze where the lord of the AL

> goes

> > in

> > > the rasi chart.

> > >

> > > Whereas the Janma Lagna represents the true self, the AL may

> show

> > > how an individual is perceived in physical reality. It may

show

> the

> > > apparent status of the individual and the maya of personality.

> On

> > > the outside, an individual may be perceived as her AL, whereas

> > > within, she feels more like her Janma Lagna.

> > >

> > > I like to read the AL in relation to the rasi chart. For

> instance,

> > > if you see an AL in the 3rd house of the rasi chakra, this

> person

> > > may appear to have a very lively and dynamic personality. If

in

> the

> > > 7th, the native may be relationship oriented.

> > >

> > > In the US Kelleher chart [07/04/1776, 18:30:00, DST/WT 0,

> > > Philadelphia, PA, USA, Time Zone 5.00, Lat. 39 N 57, Long. 75

W

> 9],

> > > the Janma Lagna is Sagittarius, and its lord Jupiter is in the

> 7th

> > > house. So to get the AL you count from the 1st to the 7th, but

> then

> > > 7 houses from 7 is the first, so when an arudha pada falls in

> the

> > > original house, the arudha pada will move to the 10th house

from

> > the

> > > original house, which is Virgo, where Saturn is posited. So

> perhaps

> > > we could say that the image of the United States being

portrayed

> to

> > > the outside world reflects the placement of Saturn in

Mercury's

> > > constellation of Virgo, in the 10th house, which reveals big

> > > government, leadership, power, an authoritative or demanding

> > > attitude, efficiency, bossiness...whatever. Then, we can look

at

> > the

> > > potent Jaimini aspects from all those 7th house planets in

> > Mercury's

> > > other constellation of Gemini--Sun, Mars, Venus and Jupiter--

to

> get

> > > an even clearer picture of this image.

> > >

> > > The Upapada (UP) is the arudha of the 12th house. It is used

to

> > > analzye relationships espcially of a sexual or romantic type.

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > > Juliana

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > valist, "Engineer, Adi" <aengineer@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > can someone tell me how to determine arudha and upapada

lagnas

> in

> > > a

> > > chart, and what does this lagnas signifies, like ascendant or

> lagna

> > > in

> > > a rashi chart signifies self, what doest these 2 lagnas

signify

> and

> > > how to calculate them.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & regards

> > > >

> > > > Adi

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

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