Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Recently, a magazine in Astrology has analysed the horoscope of Sigmund Frued, who has given psycho analysis and such revolutionary concepts like Id and Oedipus complex to the world. In his chart, the Ascendant was rising in the cusp of Scorpio with Mercury and Mars aspecting it from the 7th house. The author of the column has analysed the chart mainly taking Libra as the ascendant in view that the Lagna was falling in cusp. However, I observe that we can well explain the professional life of the great native even by taking Scorpio as the ascendant. The birth details of Freud are as below: Sigmund Freud 6th May, 1856 at 18.30 at Frieberg(germany)-49N38 , 18E09; Balance : 6 years 6 years 2 months 20 days of Mars dasa at birth Scorpio is a sign of Animal instinct , indicating the Mooladhara chakra, ie the baser feelings. Freud has not only worked greatly on the aspect of base feelings, but also his acts of childhood bring such base feelings sharply into focus, indicating the effect of Scopio as an ascendant. He was finding security in tagging onto his mother's skirt amore than what was normal for kids of his age and once, he has urinated in his parents's room to lodge his resentment against his father. ..I expected that Mercury and Moon will be in conjunction , as Moon indicates Mind and Mercury, analysis. The same conjunction is indeed there but it is not connected to the 10th house or Lord, which would have happened if the ascendant were to be Libra. Yet, The 10th Lord is in 6th indicating his profession as a doctor, planked by this conjunction on one side and by Jupiter (indicating research) on the other. Great name is indicated by the Sun being in exaltation and in conjunction with Venus, it is connected with some sexual feelings and with Rahu, a revolutionary in his profession. Interestingly, Sun is found in Scorpio in Navamsa. Truly, Freud had more interest in research than in practising as a physician that he had delayed completion of his degree by three years. This is supported by Saturn being in 8th house, which indicates that the native would be interested in investigations (research) The effect of Scorpio as a mooladhara sign is so great on Freud that he refuted all attempts to connect or interpret his contributions either metaphysically or spiritually. His reactions were always sharp- a trait that Mercury has given him- whenever his disciples have brought up such discussions. Ketu always creates vairagya in the native of the bhava he is residing in and here, Ketu being in 12th house, has developed an aversion for spirituality. However, his disciples, including Carl Jung, did divert most of his teachings into the metaphysical realm. I have tried to see the 5th Lord/house connected with 8th House which is not found. On the other hand, such deceptions also are indicated by Rahu being in 11th(as in the cases of Osho Rajaneesh, NTR and Swamy Jayendra Saraswati) Hope the members of the group, especially those members who read the article in the mag discuss the chart more. Kishore patnaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Dear Kishore, As much as I like the idea of Scorpio rising for Sigmund Freud, I'm afraid that the author of the article has made an error in the calculation of the correct lagna here. Most references give Freud's birth time as 18:30 LMT or local mean time since the 15E meridian was not adopted until 1891. It appears the author has calculated the chart for 18:30 hours in Greenwich time giving a significant error in the rising degree. If we use 18:30 Local time for the birth, the lagna in Lahiri will be 15 Libra 39. Otherwise using 18:30 Greenwich or UT we will arrive at 28 Libra 42. I am assuming that this is approx what the author has calculated for lagna. I decided to double check this in the ACS Atlas. Freiberg, Moravia is now known as Pribor in the Czech Republic (49N39) (18E10) Prior to 1850, LMT was in use in the area, but between 1850 and 1891, 14E26 was used as a standard time meridian, marking a difference of 0hours and 58 minutes of clock time from Greenwich. If this time meridian was used in the recording of the birth certificate, then the correct time in UT for Greenwich would be 18hrs 30min minus 58 minutes or 17:32 UT (since clocks in area observing this time meridian would have been 58 minutes in advance of Greenwich). This gives a lagna of 17 Libra 24 (Lahiri). Therefore the correct lagna appears to be either 15 Libra 49 using LMT or 17 Libra 24 using the standard time meridian of 14E26. The earlier degree gives Aquarius navamsa whereas the later gives Pisces. Both times will also give a Moon in the navamsa of Cancer (rather than Leo). .. Best wishes, Steve kishore mohan wrote: Recently, a magazine in Astrology has analysed the horoscope of Sigmund Frued, who has given psycho analysis and such revolutionary concepts like Id and Oedipus complex to the world. In his chart, the Ascendant was rising in the cusp of Scorpio with Mercury and Mars aspecting it from the 7th house. The author of the column has analysed the chart mainly taking Libra as the ascendant in view that the Lagna was falling in cusp. However, I observe that we can well explain the professional life of the great native even by taking Scorpio as the ascendant. The birth details of Freud are as below: Sigmund Freud 6th May, 1856 at 18.30 at Frieberg(germany)-49N38 , 18E09; Balance : 6 years 6 years 2 months 20 days of Mars dasa at birth Scorpio is a sign of Animal instinct , indicating the Mooladhara chakra, ie the baser feelings. Freud has not only worked greatly on the aspect of base feelings, but also his acts of childhood bring such base feelings sharply into focus, indicating the effect of Scopio as an ascendant. He was finding security in tagging onto his mother's skirt amore than what was normal for kids of his age and once, he has urinated in his parents's room to lodge his resentment against his father. ..I expected that Mercury and Moon will be in conjunction , as Moon indicates Mind and Mercury, analysis. The same conjunction is indeed there but it is not connected to the 10th house or Lord, which would have happened if the ascendant were to be Libra. Yet, The 10th Lord is in 6th indicating his profession as a doctor, planked by this conjunction on one side and by Jupiter (indicating research) on the other. Great name is indicated by the Sun being in exaltation and in conjunction with Venus, it is connected with some sexual feelings and with Rahu, a revolutionary in his profession. Interestingly, Sun is found in Scorpio in Navamsa. Truly, Freud had more interest in research than in practising as a physician that he had delayed completion of his degree by three years. This is supported by Saturn being in 8th house, which indicates that the native would be interested in investigations (research) The effect of Scorpio as a mooladhara sign is so great on Freud that he refuted all attempts to connect or interpret his contributions either metaphysically or spiritually. His reactions were always sharp- a trait that Mercury has given him- whenever his disciples have brought up such discussions. Ketu always creates vairagya in the native of the bhava he is residing in and here, Ketu being in 12th house, has developed an aversion for spirituality. However, his disciples, including Carl Jung, did divert most of his teachings into the metaphysical realm. I have tried to see the 5th Lord/house connected with 8th House which is not found. On the other hand, such deceptions also are indicated by Rahu being in 11th(as in the cases of Osho Rajaneesh, NTR and Swamy Jayendra Saraswati) Hope the members of the group, especially those members who read the article in the mag discuss the chart more. Kishore patnaik Links <*> valist/ <*> valist <*> Your Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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