Patrick, Astrology, and the Victims

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This world is not our eternal home. Rather, the bodies we have decay. Nothing

here is permanent, even the great Rome is gone.

So too the forces, like Jupiter, they are impermanent forces, thus they have the

flaws of duality found in everything here.

When Patrick defied the Druids on Bealtaine night, the date is known, and on

that date you find strong and noble Jupiter. This benefited him, who was

aligned with strong and noble religious ideals and churches on the mainland.

But what if the people you seek to convert are not of that, but of another

thing, another of the impermanent forces or nature parts of this realm?

All planets are enslavers, and all planets have faults. All forces contain bood

and gad elements. If it wasn’t for those monks, the history would have

never been written, and I could not study it, in my dictionary of Celtic

history/mythology. But, if it wasn’t for those monks, the whole thing

might still be a living culture.

Culture names things, but the things remain as one. One culture calls it Saturn,

another Sani, but the thing is one. We are one in the things we are

“inside”. We are one in the things we actually have to deal with.

The benefit of global economy, a shallow glittering benefit, draws all into the

same language and customs- to do business, to get cheap goods, to have that

glitter that seems enjoyable.

The old cultures are killed for glitter. Everyone learns English and drops their

cultures to get the eye liner, the tv set, the digital camera, the air ride to

here and there... Eventually we’ll realize the folly of it all, and seek

meaning, looking back to old cultures for that meaning, hoping to find it safe

with our ancestors in the dirt, or in their writings, or in our memories of

them and their times.

I am in touch with my ancestors. I have bore the crying to know them. I have

bore their stories to hear them. I have invited them back into my heart to have

them. To do this I had to know their lives, which are mostly pain, as most seem

to be. But now I walk with them inside me always.

There is nothing special about so called St. Patrick, except he was like so many

monks of so many races and ages. Men who have some passive aggressive pity on a

simple culture, go there and change it by causing it to doubt itself and

teaching it a new way. This mood grows to even centuries later the people

themselves are beating each other for any trace of the “old

culture” they cherish in themselves.

I am Irish Catholic by birth, and one of eleven neglected children. I am born of

Patrick’s gifts- stupidity like disdain for birth control, stupidity like

“Praying to Jesus” and other Saints for actual things in life.

Just plain ol stupidity.

Now that I am able to, I believe as I want to, and it’s certainly not that

way. I can’t imagine considering Christian thought to be

“theology”. I can’t believe my people’s ancient Kings

and Queens didn’t banish these missionaries at the cost of soldiers

lives.

Well now we can turn it around. As we realize the forces of things like the

atom, astrology, all the types of waves and awarenesses and interconnectedness

of all things in all spheres, the whole silly Moses and Jesus and Mohamed kind

of thinking can just go away as it should.

If Patrick drove the snakes from Ireland, well I’m one, popping up over

here, still able to speak, and still not into accepting somebody from the south

somewhere as “my savior”.

Boodika

May you always lead us

Rik Mach Ai

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Hello,

 

I kind of don't know all of this or the other exchange, but feel I

have to say directly that I love Das's writings and enjoy his sort of

"outsider- coming -out- from -being- on- the- inside" perspective on

things. Irreverence, so called, oftentimes comes from the deepest

reverence for all. It is also often misinterpreted, in my opinion.

Thanks for being like a folk hero to me. Maybe folk songs will follow?

 

David

 

valist, Das Goravani <> wrote:

>

>

> This world is not our eternal home. Rather, the bodies we have decay.

> Nothing here is permanent, even the great Rome is gone.

>

> So too the forces, like Jupiter, they are impermanent forces, thus

they have

> the flaws of duality found in everything here.

>

> When Patrick defied the Druids on Bealtaine night, the date is

known, and on

> that date you find strong and noble Jupiter. This benefited him, who was

> aligned with strong and noble religious ideals and churches on the

mainland.

>

> But what if the people you seek to convert are not of that, but of

another

> thing, another of the impermanent forces or nature parts of this realm?

>

> All planets are enslavers, and all planets have faults. All forces

contain

> bood and gad elements. If it wasn¹t for those monks, the history

would have

> never been written, and I could not study it, in my dictionary of Celtic

> history/mythology. But, if it wasn¹t for those monks, the whole

thing might

> still be a living culture.

>

> Culture names things, but the things remain as one. One culture calls it

> Saturn, another Sani, but the thing is one. We are one in the

things we are

> ³inside². We are one in the things we actually have to deal with. The

> benefit of global economy, a shallow glittering benefit, draws all

into the

> same language and customs- to do business, to get cheap goods, to

have that

> glitter that seems enjoyable.

>

> The old cultures are killed for glitter. Everyone learns English and

drops

> their cultures to get the eye liner, the tv set, the digital camera,

the air

> ride to here and there... Eventually we¹ll realize the folly of it

all, and

> seek meaning, looking back to old cultures for that meaning, hoping

to find

> it safe with our ancestors in the dirt, or in their writings, or in our

> memories of them and their times.

>

> I am in touch with my ancestors. I have bore the crying to know

them. I have

> bore their stories to hear them. I have invited them back into my

heart to

> have them. To do this I had to know their lives, which are mostly

pain, as

> most seem to be. But now I walk with them inside me always.

>

> There is nothing special about so called St. Patrick, except he was

like so

> many monks of so many races and ages. Men who have some passive

aggressive

> pity on a simple culture, go there and change it by causing it to doubt

> itself and teaching it a new way. This mood grows to even centuries

later

> the people themselves are beating each other for any trace of the ³old

> culture² they cherish in themselves.

>

> I am Irish Catholic by birth, and one of eleven neglected children. I am

> born of Patrick¹s gifts- stupidity like disdain for birth control,

stupidity

> like ³Praying to Jesus² and other Saints for actual things in life.

Just

> plain ol stupidity.

>

> Now that I am able to, I believe as I want to, and it¹s certainly

not that

> way. I can¹t imagine considering Christian thought to be ³theology². I

> can¹t believe my people¹s ancient Kings and Queens didn¹t banish these

> missionaries at the cost of soldiers lives.

>

> Well now we can turn it around. As we realize the forces of things

like the

> atom, astrology, all the types of waves and awarenesses and

> interconnectedness of all things in all spheres, the whole silly

Moses and

> Jesus and Mohamed kind of thinking can just go away as it should.

>

> If Patrick drove the snakes from Ireland, well I¹m one, popping up over

> here, still able to speak, and still not into accepting somebody

from the

> south somewhere as ³my savior².

>

> Boodika

> May you always lead us

>

>

>

> Rik Mach Ai

>