Shuttle Launch Aug 8: Clarification Location

[Guest guest]

Dear Steve, Chris, and others,

 

I'm reclarifying an earlier post since I think the shuttle is scheduled to land

at

Houston, TX (not Cape Canaveral, Fla.,) although I'm unsure of this, but the

time is

before dawn on Monday, August 8. I am curious about predictions from anyone on a

safe re-entry.

It seems the chart for launching did show many delays and obstacles that

occurred

as many predicted, but are the chart predictions for launch altered in any way

for a

safe re-entry on Monday at dawn with a Leo Moon around 27-28* and earlier

exactly

opposing 8th house Uranus around 15*?

 

Janna

 

Om hrim hrim surjaya namah

 

http://seven_directions.tripod.com/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

valist, Steven Stuckey <steven@l...> wrote:

>

>

> Christopher Kevill wrote:

>

> > Hi Steve,

> >

> > It's also interesting that Mars is casting its most malefic 8th house

> > aspect to the 8th house Uranus in the original shuttle chart for

> > Columbia on Arp 4 1981 at 7.00.03. The chart doesn't quite seem

> > afflicted enough to spell doom this time around however, but certainly

> > there will be untoward developments.

> >

> > Also, your message got cut off mid-sentence. Maybe you could finish

> > your thought about your father.

>

>

>

> Hi Chris,

>

> I'm having a few problems with my computer. I hope there are no more

> than a few "hiccoughs" (as NASA has already called the trouble so far),

> in the upcoming days of the Discovery mission.

> My father used to work at Lockheed in Palmdale, where the shuttles were

> built. I've taken a few tours of the plant and was always fascinated

> with the monumental task of building things like that.

> Palmdale is situated less than 30 miles from Edwards Air Force base,

> where most of the shuttles landed. I was at my father's a number of

> times when the shuttle came in, sending out two powerful shock waves

> ahead of it, one right after the other, as it came back through the

> sound barrier. The windows would always rattle, like we were having an

> earthquake when this happened. My father had a high security clearance

> and spent some of his time at Lockheed working on secret projects in

> their high tech Skunk Works division. He was a heavy duty Plutonian, and

> therefore I never was able to get any information from him about what he

> was doing.

>

> There were rumors going around that some of the Skunk Works people were

> being flown to the infamous Area 51, where the government was working on

> duplicating Alien/UFO technology--I'm fairly certain my father was not

> amongst those.

>

>

> Best,

>

> Steve

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Janna and members,

 

The Discovery is scheduled to land at the Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral

on

August 8th at 4:46 AM EDT. There are three additional landing times possible if

weather

conditions for the 4:46 time are not favorable. The next available time would be

6:12 AM

at Cape Canaveral and the last two would be at 7:42 AM and 9:17 AM at Edwards

Air Force

Base in California.

 

The 4:46 AM landing time has lagnesh Mercury retrograde, combust and in a

papa-kartari

yoga with Saturn and Sun while receiving the full aspect of 6th lord Mars. If we

can

trust this as a relevant chart to show landing conditions, then I would conclude

that

there is going to be trouble.

 

Looking back at the shuttle Columbia that broke apart on re-entry over

Palestine, Texas

on February 1, 2003--it's ETA (estimated time of arrival) for Cape Canaveral was

9:36 AM

EST. That chart is fairly supportive for good landing--Pisces lagna and lagna

lord

Jupiter exalted in the 5th (although Rx at the time).

Columbia never made it of course and was last heard from at about 9:00 AM EST.

It actually started breaking up at or just after re-entry which was very close

to 8:50

AM EST.

The 8:50 chart, when calculated for Cape Canaveral, gives Aquarius rising with

Saturn in

the 4th, very close to the cusp, along with Rahu, while Pluto sits exactly on

the MC

along with Mars and Ketu in Scorpio.

 

The re-entry time of Discovery on August 8th, does not allow for a different

lagna (as

happened to Columbia), so Gemini will be the lagna from the moment of re-entry

to

landing time.

 

 

Best,

 

Steve

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Janna Lynn wrote:

 

> Dear Steve, Chris, and others,

>

> I'm reclarifying an earlier post since I think the shuttle is scheduled to

land at

> Houston, TX (not Cape Canaveral, Fla.,) although I'm unsure of this, but the

time is

> before dawn on Monday, August 8. I am curious about predictions from anyone on

a

> safe re-entry.

> It seems the chart for launching did show many delays and obstacles that

occurred

> as many predicted, but are the chart predictions for launch altered in any way

for a

> safe re-entry on Monday at dawn with a Leo Moon around 27-28* and earlier

exactly

> opposing 8th house Uranus around 15*?

>

> Janna

>

> Om hrim hrim surjaya namah

>

> http://seven_directions.tripod.com/

>

valist, Steven Stuckey <steven@l...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Christopher Kevill wrote:

> >

> > > Hi Steve,

> > >

> > > It's also interesting that Mars is casting its most malefic 8th house

> > > aspect to the 8th house Uranus in the original shuttle chart for

> > > Columbia on Arp 4 1981 at 7.00.03. The chart doesn't quite seem

> > > afflicted enough to spell doom this time around however, but certainly

> > > there will be untoward developments.

> > >

> > > Also, your message got cut off mid-sentence. Maybe you could finish

> > > your thought about your father.

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Chris,

> >

> > I'm having a few problems with my computer. I hope there are no more

> > than a few "hiccoughs" (as NASA has already called the trouble so far),

> > in the upcoming days of the Discovery mission.

> > My father used to work at Lockheed in Palmdale, where the shuttles were

> > built. I've taken a few tours of the plant and was always fascinated

> > with the monumental task of building things like that.

> > Palmdale is situated less than 30 miles from Edwards Air Force base,

> > where most of the shuttles landed. I was at my father's a number of

> > times when the shuttle came in, sending out two powerful shock waves

> > ahead of it, one right after the other, as it came back through the

> > sound barrier. The windows would always rattle, like we were having an

> > earthquake when this happened. My father had a high security clearance

> > and spent some of his time at Lockheed working on secret projects in

> > their high tech Skunk Works division. He was a heavy duty Plutonian, and

> > therefore I never was able to get any information from him about what he

> > was doing.

> >

> > There were rumors going around that some of the Skunk Works people were

> > being flown to the infamous Area 51, where the government was working on

> > duplicating Alien/UFO technology--I'm fairly certain my father was not

> > amongst those.

> >

> >

> > Best,

> >

> > Steve

> >

> > >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Steve:

 

Thank you for this comprehensive answer and for correcting the place the shuttle

is

scheduled to land. I've lost track of the complete details of earlier posts and

comments you and Chris primarily have made on the shuttle launch. However, is

there any aspect that links the re-entry landing of the shuttle with the

Jupiter-Ketu

conjunction now within 3* of exactitude and exact August 11-12 that would

further

intensify planetary combinations found in the shuttle landing chart? I have

made

another query on another list about clarifying the impact in general of this

conjunction

but continue to feel that metaphorically the seas are rough for sailing or

landing at

this time (this would include the recent Russian submarine entrapment)

collectively.

I'm looking for the planetary clues that provide possible explanations for the

recent

escalation of terror and death-related incidents, such as the London bombing,

and the

potential for other disasters, and although I realize this differs from location

to

location, I am looking for a thread that may connect these events collectively,

and

would be interested in the Ju-Ke role in any of these recent waves of extremist

activities. In the meantime, I hope that the shuttle may beat the odds of these

precarious transits.

 

Thank you for any insights you may share.

 

Janna

 

 

 

valist, Steven Stuckey <steven@l...> wrote:

> Dear Janna and members,

>

> The Discovery is scheduled to land at the Kennedy Space Center in Cape

Canaveral

on

> August 8th at 4:46 AM EDT. There are three additional landing times possible

if

weather

> conditions for the 4:46 time are not favorable. The next available time would

be

6:12 AM

> at Cape Canaveral and the last two would be at 7:42 AM and 9:17 AM at Edwards

Air Force

> Base in California.

>

> The 4:46 AM landing time has lagnesh Mercury retrograde, combust and in a

papa-

kartari

> yoga with Saturn and Sun while receiving the full aspect of 6th lord Mars. If

we can

> trust this as a relevant chart to show landing conditions, then I would

conclude that

> there is going to be trouble.

>

> Looking back at the shuttle Columbia that broke apart on re-entry over

Palestine,

Texas

> on February 1, 2003--it's ETA (estimated time of arrival) for Cape Canaveral

was

9:36 AM

> EST. That chart is fairly supportive for good landing--Pisces lagna and lagna

lord

> Jupiter exalted in the 5th (although Rx at the time).

> Columbia never made it of course and was last heard from at about 9:00 AM EST.

> It actually started breaking up at or just after re-entry which was very close

to 8:50

> AM EST.

> The 8:50 chart, when calculated for Cape Canaveral, gives Aquarius rising with

Saturn in

> the 4th, very close to the cusp, along with Rahu, while Pluto sits exactly on

the MC

> along with Mars and Ketu in Scorpio.

>

> The re-entry time of Discovery on August 8th, does not allow for a different

lagna

(as

> happened to Columbia), so Gemini will be the lagna from the moment of re-entry

to

> landing time.

>

>

> Best,

>

> Steve

>

>

Janna Lynn wrote:

>

> > Dear Steve, Chris, and others,

> >

> > I'm reclarifying an earlier post since I think the shuttle is scheduled to

land at

> > Houston, TX (not Cape Canaveral, Fla.,) although I'm unsure of this, but the

time

is

> > before dawn on Monday, August 8. I am curious about predictions from anyone

on a

> > safe re-entry.

> > It seems the chart for launching did show many delays and obstacles that

occurred

> > as many predicted, but are the chart predictions for launch altered in any

way for

a

> > safe re-entry on Monday at dawn with a Leo Moon around 27-28* and earlier

exactly

> > opposing 8th house Uranus around 15*?

> >

> > Janna

> >

> > Om hrim hrim surjaya namah

> >

> > http://seven_directions.tripod.com/

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > valist, Steven Stuckey <steven@l...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Christopher Kevill wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi Steve,

> > > >

> > > > It's also interesting that Mars is casting its most malefic 8th house

> > > > aspect to the 8th house Uranus in the original shuttle chart for

> > > > Columbia on Arp 4 1981 at 7.00.03. The chart doesn't quite seem

> > > > afflicted enough to spell doom this time around however, but certainly

> > > > there will be untoward developments.

> > > >

> > > > Also, your message got cut off mid-sentence. Maybe you could finish

> > > > your thought about your father.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Chris,

> > >

> > > I'm having a few problems with my computer. I hope there are no more

> > > than a few "hiccoughs" (as NASA has already called the trouble so far),

> > > in the upcoming days of the Discovery mission.

> > > My father used to work at Lockheed in Palmdale, where the shuttles were

> > > built. I've taken a few tours of the plant and was always fascinated

> > > with the monumental task of building things like that.

> > > Palmdale is situated less than 30 miles from Edwards Air Force base,

> > > where most of the shuttles landed. I was at my father's a number of

> > > times when the shuttle came in, sending out two powerful shock waves

> > > ahead of it, one right after the other, as it came back through the

> > > sound barrier. The windows would always rattle, like we were having an

> > > earthquake when this happened. My father had a high security clearance

> > > and spent some of his time at Lockheed working on secret projects in

> > > their high tech Skunk Works division. He was a heavy duty Plutonian, and

> > > therefore I never was able to get any information from him about what he

> > > was doing.

> > >

> > > There were rumors going around that some of the Skunk Works people were

> > > being flown to the infamous Area 51, where the government was working on

> > > duplicating Alien/UFO technology--I'm fairly certain my father was not

> > > amongst those.

> > >

> > >

> > > Best,

> > >

> > > Steve

> > >

> > > >

> >

> >

> >

> > Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Janna Lynn wrote:

 

> Dear Steve:

>

> Thank you for this comprehensive answer and for correcting the place the

shuttle is

> scheduled to land. I've lost track of the complete details of earlier posts

and

> comments you and Chris primarily have made on the shuttle launch. However, is

> there any aspect that links the re-entry landing of the shuttle with the

Jupiter-Ketu

> conjunction now within 3* of exactitude and exact August 11-12 that would

further

> intensify planetary combinations found in the shuttle landing chart.

 

Dear Janna,

 

The 4:46 AM landing time places the Jupiter/Ketu/Rahu within 7* of the MC/IC

axis. I can't

say from personal experience what this is likely to do regarding the shuttle

landing. The

Nodes close to angles on any type of a map generally do not augur well for

favorable results

in my experience.

 

 

>

 

> I have made

> another query on another list about clarifying the impact in general of this

conjunction

> but continue to feel that metaphorically the seas are rough for sailing or

landing at

> this time (this would include the recent Russian submarine entrapment)

collectively.

> I'm looking for the planetary clues that provide possible explanations for the

recent

> escalation of terror and death-related incidents, such as the London bombing,

and the

> potential for other disasters, and although I realize this differs from

location to

> location, I am looking for a thread that may connect these events

collectively, and

> would be interested in the Ju-Ke role in any of these recent waves of

extremist

> activities.

 

Good charts to look at for 'collective' threads are lunations (New Moon, Full

Moon etc) and

Solar and Lunar Eclipse charts.

For instance, the last Full Moon of July 21st occurred on the same day as the

second London

bombing. If you calculate the exact Full Moon time for London, you will get 16

Virgo rising

with Jupiter at 17 Virgo and Ketu at 23 Virgo (Lahiri, True Node).

 

Similarly, the first London attack that occurred on July 7th, was a day after

the New Moon.

The New Moon of July 6th in this instance for London had again 16 Virgo rising

and Jupiter

at 16 Virgo.

 

The current New Moon of August 4th shows Jupiter rising through Jakarta, passing

through

Hanoi and continuing up close to Beijing. You can see this very easily by

calculating a

particular lunation chart for any location and throwing it into the

Astro-Cartography map.

 

 

 

 

> In the meantime, I hope that the shuttle may beat the odds of these

> precarious transits.

 

I'm hoping the same---that the planetary energy works itself out in some type of

technical

difficulty that doesn't prove to be life threatening.

 

 

 

Best,

 

Steve

 

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Janna,

 

Interesting observation you've made here, "Ju Ke...extremist activities." I

believe I've

seen in the Hindu that Ketu = Moslem. I could also show that the 7/7 London

bombing was

Moslem in the testimony of its Ve Ju and Mo Ke aspects...and that the very Ra Ke

of

Mohammed's Hegira Medina 7 /15/0622 rise and set right on the London Bombing

horizon. But VA

is not a western list.

 

I judge that a 4:46 am landing on Monday would be protective of the venture.

 

Dark*Star

________________________________

 

Janna Lynn wrote:

 

> Dear Steve:

>

> Thank you for this comprehensive answer and for correcting the place the

shuttle is

> scheduled to land. I've lost track of the complete details of earlier posts

and

> comments you and Chris primarily have made on the shuttle launch. However, is

> there any aspect that links the re-entry landing of the shuttle with the

Jupiter-Ketu

> conjunction now within 3* of exactitude and exact August 11-12 that would

further

> intensify planetary combinations found in the shuttle landing chart? I have

made

> another query on another list about clarifying the impact in general of this

conjunction

> but continue to feel that metaphorically the seas are rough for sailing or

landing at

> this time (this would include the recent Russian submarine entrapment)

collectively.

> I'm looking for the planetary clues that provide possible explanations for the

recent

> escalation of terror and death-related incidents, such as the London bombing,

and the

> potential for other disasters, and although I realize this differs from

location to

> location, I am looking for a thread that may connect these events

collectively, and

> would be interested in the ***Ju-Ke role in any of these recent waves of

extremist

> activities.*** In the meantime, I hope that the shuttle may beat the odds of

these

> precarious transits.

>

> Thank you for any insights you may share.

>

> Janna

>

> valist, Steven Stuckey <steven@l...> wrote:

> > Dear Janna and members,

> >

> > The Discovery is scheduled to land at the Kennedy Space Center in Cape

Canaveral

> on

> > August 8th at 4:46 AM EDT. There are three additional landing times possible

if

> weather

> > conditions for the 4:46 time are not favorable. The next available time

would be

> 6:12 AM

> > at Cape Canaveral and the last two would be at 7:42 AM and 9:17 AM at

Edwards

> Air Force

> > Base in California.

> >

> > The 4:46 AM landing time has lagnesh Mercury retrograde, combust and in a

papa-

> kartari

> > yoga with Saturn and Sun while receiving the full aspect of 6th lord Mars.

If we can

> > trust this as a relevant chart to show landing conditions, then I would

conclude that

> > there is going to be trouble.

> >

> > Looking back at the shuttle Columbia that broke apart on re-entry over

Palestine,

> Texas

> > on February 1, 2003--it's ETA (estimated time of arrival) for Cape Canaveral

was

> 9:36 AM

> > EST. That chart is fairly supportive for good landing--Pisces lagna and

lagna lord

> > Jupiter exalted in the 5th (although Rx at the time).

> > Columbia never made it of course and was last heard from at about 9:00 AM

EST.

> > It actually started breaking up at or just after re-entry which was very

close to 8:50

> > AM EST.

> > The 8:50 chart, when calculated for Cape Canaveral, gives Aquarius rising

with

> Saturn in

> > the 4th, very close to the cusp, along with Rahu, while Pluto sits exactly

on the MC

> > along with Mars and Ketu in Scorpio.

> >

> > The re-entry time of Discovery on August 8th, does not allow for a different

lagna

> (as

> > happened to Columbia), so Gemini will be the lagna from the moment of

re-entry to

> > landing time.

> >

> >

> > Best,

> >

> > Steve

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Janna Lynn wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Steve, Chris, and others,

> > >

> > > I'm reclarifying an earlier post since I think the shuttle is scheduled

to land at

> > > Houston, TX (not Cape Canaveral, Fla.,) although I'm unsure of this, but

the time

> is

> > > before dawn on Monday, August 8. I am curious about predictions from

anyone

> on a

> > > safe re-entry.

> > > It seems the chart for launching did show many delays and obstacles that

> occurred

> > > as many predicted, but are the chart predictions for launch altered in any

way for

> a

> > > safe re-entry on Monday at dawn with a Leo Moon around 27-28* and earlier

> exactly

> > > opposing 8th house Uranus around 15*?

> > >

> > > Janna

> > >

> > > Om hrim hrim surjaya namah

> > >

> > > http://seven_directions.tripod.com/

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > valist, Steven Stuckey <steven@l...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Christopher Kevill wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Hi Steve,

> > > > >

> > > > > It's also interesting that Mars is casting its most malefic 8th house

> > > > > aspect to the 8th house Uranus in the original shuttle chart for

> > > > > Columbia on Arp 4 1981 at 7.00.03. The chart doesn't quite seem

> > > > > afflicted enough to spell doom this time around however, but certainly

> > > > > there will be untoward developments.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also, your message got cut off mid-sentence. Maybe you could finish

> > > > > your thought about your father.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi Chris,

> > > >

> > > > I'm having a few problems with my computer. I hope there are no more

> > > > than a few "hiccoughs" (as NASA has already called the trouble so far),

> > > > in the upcoming days of the Discovery mission.

> > > > My father used to work at Lockheed in Palmdale, where the shuttles were

> > > > built. I've taken a few tours of the plant and was always fascinated

> > > > with the monumental task of building things like that.

> > > > Palmdale is situated less than 30 miles from Edwards Air Force base,

> > > > where most of the shuttles landed. I was at my father's a number of

> > > > times when the shuttle came in, sending out two powerful shock waves

> > > > ahead of it, one right after the other, as it came back through the

> > > > sound barrier. The windows would always rattle, like we were having an

> > > > earthquake when this happened. My father had a high security clearance

> > > > and spent some of his time at Lockheed working on secret projects in

> > > > their high tech Skunk Works division. He was a heavy duty Plutonian, and

> > > > therefore I never was able to get any information from him about what he

> > > > was doing.

> > > >

> > > > There were rumors going around that some of the Skunk Works people were

> > > > being flown to the infamous Area 51, where the government was working on

> > > > duplicating Alien/UFO technology--I'm fairly certain my father was not

> > > > amongst those.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Best,

> > > >

> > > > Steve

> > > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Links

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

> Links

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Steve, Janna, and All,

 

-

"Steven Stuckey" <steven

<valist>

Friday, August 05, 2005 6:27 PM

Re: Re: Shuttle Launch Aug 8: Clarification Location

 

 

>

>

> Janna Lynn wrote:

>

> > Dear Steve:

> >

> > Thank you for this comprehensive answer and for correcting the place the

shuttle is

> > scheduled to land. I've lost track of the complete details of earlier

posts and

> > comments you and Chris primarily have made on the shuttle launch.

However, is

> > there any aspect that links the re-entry landing of the shuttle with

the Jupiter-Ketu

> > conjunction now within 3* of exactitude and exact August 11-12 that

would further

> > intensify planetary combinations found in the shuttle landing chart.

>

> Dear Janna,

>

> The 4:46 AM landing time places the Jupiter/Ketu/Rahu within 7* of the

MC/IC axis. I can't

> say from personal experience what this is likely to do regarding the

shuttle landing. The

> Nodes close to angles on any type of a map generally do not augur well for

favorable results

> in my experience.

 

While I agree generally, I think you have to consider the influences on the

nodes to get a handle on what they will promise. Ketu is a natural malefic

of course, so we become biased towards negative scenarios when it conjoins a

planet like Jupiter. But there are many occasions where the positive side

of Ketu will be expressed. This will depend on other key placements in the

chart and on the "polarity" of Ketu at any given time. Some of this has to

do with sign and star dispositors, although any number of influences could

be isolated. With Ketu in Virgo, Mercury's placement becomes more important

in understanding Ketu's role. The fact that it is retrograde is perhaps one

factor that may partially explain the earlier difficulties on the mission.

We could also include the fact that Mars was in the star of Ketu in the 8th

house at the time of the launch -- hardly auspicious for a prosperous and

safe journey. Venus was also in Ketu, however so balancing the influences

here is important. Nonetheless the negative energy returns through the

contraparallel of Mars and Uranus at launch within two minutes or orb.

 

>

>

> >

>

> > I have made

> > another query on another list about clarifying the impact in general of

this conjunction

> > but continue to feel that metaphorically the seas are rough for sailing

or landing at

> > this time (this would include the recent Russian submarine entrapment)

collectively.

> > I'm looking for the planetary clues that provide possible explanations

for the recent

> > escalation of terror and death-related incidents, such as the London

bombing, and the

> > potential for other disasters, and although I realize this differs from

location to

> > location, I am looking for a thread that may connect these events

collectively, and

> > would be interested in the Ju-Ke role in any of these recent waves of

extremist

> > activities.

>

 

If Ketu does express its negative side, then wouldn't we look at Jupter's

significations as possible evidence? I don't see violence per se as

representing any side of Jupiter, although obviously philosophical extremism

does fit nicely. One of those "knee bone connected to the ankle bone" type

propositions perhaps.

 

> Good charts to look at for 'collective' threads are lunations (New Moon,

Full Moon etc) and

> Solar and Lunar Eclipse charts.

> For instance, the last Full Moon of July 21st occurred on the same day as

the second London

> bombing. If you calculate the exact Full Moon time for London, you will

get 16 Virgo rising

> with Jupiter at 17 Virgo and Ketu at 23 Virgo (Lahiri, True Node).

>

> Similarly, the first London attack that occurred on July 7th, was a day

after the New Moon.

> The New Moon of July 6th in this instance for London had again 16 Virgo

rising and Jupiter

> at 16 Virgo.

>

> The current New Moon of August 4th shows Jupiter rising through Jakarta,

passing through

> Hanoi and continuing up close to Beijing. You can see this very easily by

calculating a

> particular lunation chart for any location and throwing it into the

Astro-Cartography map.

>

 

Is this a backhanded prediction perhaps? :-)

 

 

>

>

>

> > In the meantime, I hope that the shuttle may beat the odds of these

> > precarious transits.

>

> I'm hoping the same---that the planetary energy works itself out in some

type of technical

> difficulty that doesn't prove to be life threatening.

>

 

It would be nice if our knowledge of astrology was extensive enough to

eliminate the need for words like "hope" in this sort of situation. But

astrology is still in its infancy so that will have to remain a pipe dream

for now.

 

I don't see any disaster looming here so I'll have to fall in line: I also

hope (!) that nothing untoward will occur but I'm not 100% sure, hence the

use of the non-rational "hope". Still a couple of afflictions make me

wonder if something related to transport may be in the news in the coming

days: transit Mercury is backing over the USA's 8th house Rahu (using the

Kelleher chart at least). It may only be more revelations about the shuttle

program's future rather than an accident however.

Transit Sun opposes the launch Neptune on the 8th, an indication that

supports the notion of undiagnosed problems, or things not quite going as

planned.

 

We'll see.

 

Chris

 

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Steve wrote:

 

> > The current New Moon of August 4th shows Jupiter rising through

Jakarta,

> passing through

> > Hanoi and continuing up close to Beijing. You can see this very

easily by

> calculating a

> > particular lunation chart for any location and throwing it into

the

> Astro-Cartography map.

 

 

 

Chris wrote:

> >

>

> Is this a backhanded prediction perhaps? :-)

 

 

 

Hi Chris,

 

No, not even a front--handed one. I normally don't go looking for

Jupiter for terrorist activities, but it's an interesting idea to

think of Jupiter and Ketu as extremism. Jupiter can also have it's

share in death and disease in a natal chart

Nodal lines on the other hand can often indicate a place where death

or accidents occur on a lunation map. Take for instance the Rahu/Ketu

lines on the MC/IC through Sicily for the current August 4th New Moon.

 

 

 

 

 

>

> It would be nice if our knowledge of astrology was extensive enough

to

> eliminate the need for words like "hope" in this sort of situation.

But

> astrology is still in its infancy so that will have to remain a pipe

dream

> for now.

>

> I don't see any disaster looming here so I'll have to fall in line:

I also

> hope (!) that nothing untoward will occur but I'm not 100% sure,

hence the

> use of the non-rational "hope".

 

 

 

 

"I feel so much better since I've lost all hope" was a bumper sticker

that was around in the '80's--I kind of agree with that statement.

 

 

 

 

Still a couple of afflictions make

me

> wonder if something related to transport may be in the news in the

coming

> days: transit Mercury is backing over the USA's 8th house Rahu

(using the

> Kelleher chart at least). It may only be more revelations about the

shuttle

> program's future rather than an accident however.

> Transit Sun opposes the launch Neptune on the 8th, an indication

that

> supports the notion of undiagnosed problems, or things not quite

going as

> planned.

 

 

There are malefic transits hitting the NASA charts of inception for

July and October of 1958. In addition, the commander and pilot of

Discovery are still not quite 'out of the woods' yet against the

transits of Mars and Saturn.

 

 

As one blind man said to the other: "We shall see what we shall see".

 

 

Steve

>

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Steve,

 

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"Steven Stuckey" <steven

<valist>

Sunday, August 07, 2005 12:19 PM

Re: Shuttle Launch Aug 8: Clarification Location

 

 

> Steve wrote:

>

> > > The current New Moon of August 4th shows Jupiter rising through

> Jakarta,

> > passing through

> > > Hanoi and continuing up close to Beijing. You can see this very

> easily by

> > calculating a

> > > particular lunation chart for any location and throwing it into

> the

> > Astro-Cartography map.

>

>

>

> Chris wrote:

> > >

> >

> > Is this a backhanded prediction perhaps? :-)

>

>

>

> Hi Chris,

>

> No, not even a front--handed one. I normally don't go looking for

> Jupiter for terrorist activities, but it's an interesting idea to

> think of Jupiter and Ketu as extremism. Jupiter can also have it's

> share in death and disease in a natal chart

> Nodal lines on the other hand can often indicate a place where death

> or accidents occur on a lunation map. Take for instance the Rahu/Ketu

> lines on the MC/IC through Sicily for the current August 4th New Moon.

 

OK, I'll look out for that once I get some decent software. Thanks for the

post on earlier extremism during Jp Ke in Virgo. Certainly, there was

extreme views on all side during 1968 around the world -- the idealistic and

often self defeating student radicals and the reactionary governments that

tried to keep them all in line.

 

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > It would be nice if our knowledge of astrology was extensive enough

> to

> > eliminate the need for words like "hope" in this sort of situation.

> But

> > astrology is still in its infancy so that will have to remain a pipe

> dream

> > for now.

> >

> > I don't see any disaster looming here so I'll have to fall in line:

> I also

> > hope (!) that nothing untoward will occur but I'm not 100% sure,

> hence the

> > use of the non-rational "hope".

>

>

>

>

> "I feel so much better since I've lost all hope" was a bumper sticker

> that was around in the '80's--I kind of agree with that statement.

>

 

Nice one. I wonder if it's Buddhist-inspired or a more elemental statement

that reflects an a common sense populism: once you realize you can't get

ahead in this world, you retreat to what you know and try to make the best

of it taking pleasure where you find it. Average working people have been

following this strategy for eons.

 

>

>

> Still a couple of afflictions make

> me

> > wonder if something related to transport may be in the news in the

> coming

> > days: transit Mercury is backing over the USA's 8th house Rahu

> (using the

> > Kelleher chart at least). It may only be more revelations about the

> shuttle

> > program's future rather than an accident however.

> > Transit Sun opposes the launch Neptune on the 8th, an indication

> that

> > supports the notion of undiagnosed problems, or things not quite

> going as

> > planned.

>

>

> There are malefic transits hitting the NASA charts of inception for

> July and October of 1958. In addition, the commander and pilot of

> Discovery are still not quite 'out of the woods' yet against the

> transits of Mars and Saturn.

>

>

> As one blind man said to the other: "We shall see what we shall see".

>

 

She's going to have her hands full and be quite stressed to be sure.

 

Chris

 

 

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> Steve

> >

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