Re:- (Puranic stories)----illicit relationships---role of jupiter

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Dear Narasimha Rao ji,

 

Namaskar,

 

i agree that puranic stories tell us the certain undisclosed facts that no one

knows.but as far as i know these were the stories to tell the general people who

dont understand the principles because jyotish was all scientific and its hard

to interpretate the reasons behind such happenings. Am i right.

 

Now abt the topic , yes i also read that when jupiter is having malefic aspect

or malefic combination its power to do well reduces. and even if its placed in

the 12th bhava the person is mostly of lose morals too.

 

but sir i think that when guru is in a house of enemy or say its in a condition

to be debilated . or if its in a sign far from the exalation sign of

cancer...like in leo its 30 deg away in virgo its 60 deg away and in libra its

90 deg away and in capricorn its 180 deg to its niceness....or exalation,

 

actually i m trying to interpretate the reason behind the illicit relationships

of a person and guru or rahu or ketu ...who so ever is responsible...

but now i found that whoever planet is there it may be responsible for

illicitness.

 

thanks for the beautiful explanation .

 

with kind regards.

 

tarun.

 

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Sun, 3 Jul 2005 01:59:59 -0400

"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr

Puranic Stories (Re: ----illicit relationships---role of jupiter)

 

Dear Tarun,

 

Guru's aspect on Venus and Mars in 2nd in navamsa increases the licentious

nature in sexual

matters.

 

According to Puranic stories, Brihaspati raped an unwilling Mamata, wife of

Brihaspati's elder

brother Utathya. The child born due to Brihaspati's moment of weakness, Kacha,

was brilliant and he

is the one who learnt the Mrita Sanjivini mantra from Sukracharya, teacher of

demons.

 

Of course, even Brihaspati had to pay for his karma. His own wife Tara fell in

love with Moon and

had a child with Moon, giving much grief to Brihaspati. Mercury was born to Tara

as a result and

Jupiter accepted him as his son later.

 

So Jupiter is associated with two stories of immoral extra-marital affairs -

once on the receiving

end and once once on the other end.

 

Though mythological stories help us sometimes to make sense of astrological

combinations, a better

way to appreciate those stories is by understanding the metaphors in them.

Puranic stories are

full of metaphors. I am not saying that the stories are unreal. They may be a

real in a different

space or a different loka. However, given that each human being is a microcosm

of the entire universe

and that various lokas, devas and asuras exist in each human being, one can see

that various

Puranic stories are re-occurring within each human being at various times,

metaphorically speaking.

 

For example, let us understand the metaphors in the above stories.

 

Who is Brihaspati? As astrologers, we know that Jupiter shows the wisdom and

intelligence in a

person. He shows the dhee of a person. What does Mamata show? Mamata means

ego-centricism,

selfishness etc (mama-ta=mine-ness). In other words, Mamata of mythology is a

metaphor for the selfishness

within us.

 

Is ego-centricism/selfishness the correct companion to wisdom? Of course not. No

wonder, Mamata is

not Brihaspati's wife. Brihaspati's wife is Tara. By the meaning of name, Tara

stands for a

radiant and brilliant protecting force that carries across. Such a force is the

right companion to

wisdom. While male element shows the existential potentiality, female element

shows the engulfing

energy and the actual manifestation. Thus, Brihaspati's manifestation is thru

the energy of Tara. No

wonder the purpose of wisdom, intelligence and dhee is to radiate brilliance,

protect one and carry

one across. That is how wisdom is supposed to manifest!

 

Also no wonder Rishi DirghaTamas was Mamata's son thru her real husband Utathya.

Utathya could

mean certainty or confidence that comes with great learning. That confidence is

born before wisdom

(elder brother). When such great confidence combines with ego-centricism,

excellent knowledge is

born which is also blind forever. No wonder, Utathya and Mamata had a child

named Dirgha Tamas (long

darkness), who was very learned but blind.

 

Anyway, coming back to the main story, ego-centricism and selfishness are not

the correct

companion to wisdom. But, if wisdom finds selfishness attractive and combines

with it once, it is not bad

after all. Without some selfishness, a lot of abilities of wisdom go wasted in a

sense! When

Brihaspati (wisdom) combined with non-cooperative selfishness (Mamata), it

resulted in the birth of

practically inclined brilliance (Kacha)!

 

Similarly, when the mind (Moon) and the brilliant protecting and carrying force

of wisdom (Tara,

wife of Brihaspati) combine, the learning ability (Mercury) is produced!!!

Learning ability

(Mercury) of the product (son) of mind (Moon), but it is accepted and nurtured

by wisdom and intelligence

(Jupiter).

 

As time is short, I will not speak of the metaphors in the story of Sukracharya,

Kacha, Devayani,

Asuras and Mrita Sajivini mantra.

 

All this is just the tip of the iceberg. There is so much more to the Puranic

stories. The

metaphors in Puranic stories are very meaningful and illuminating. Sometimes,

there are astrological

links to the metaphors. I am not such a good scholar in Puranic stories. But,

even with my limited

knowledge, I see so much Light in those stories!

 

I covered this to some extent in my first few Sunday classes at Dracut, MA, USA.

MP3 audio is

freely downloadable at the link given below.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

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> hello forum members,

>

> i got this data frm a shri Rath's serbia website.

>

> yogas in navamsha varga

>

> There are some additional Yogas such as Bahoo Stree Yoga which were present in

some of the

horoscope, which is formed by mangal and shukra influence over 2nd house, while

guru influence may

enhance immorality, ketu lorded by Shri Ganesh can definitely stop it. Guru in

trines or other

chastity Yogas such as dharmakarmadhipaty may also counteract the evil

influence.

>

> kindly suggest something that ...why guru is said to be enhancing immorality

...

>

> because many members have previously said that Guru is guru its totally of

nice morals...

>

> thanks

>

> tarun.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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