Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 It¹s been 19 years that I¹ve been with you. 19 years you have ruled my life actually. I have triumphed, and suffered greatly, under your leadership. I am not going to miss you, But I will never forget you. I learned a lot from you, That I never knew before. I am wiser. I made it. I¹m still alive. Shani Dasha is over. Let the light shine. Das Goravani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 congrats das bhaiiya.....you should distribute mithai....be in a good spirit always and everytime... cheers manoj --- Das Goravani <> wrote: > > It¹s been 19 years that I¹ve been with you. > 19 years you have ruled my life actually. > > I have triumphed, > and suffered greatly, > under your leadership. > > I am not going to miss you, > But I will never forget you. > > I learned a lot from you, > That I never knew before. > > I am wiser. I made it. I¹m still alive. > > Shani Dasha is over. > > Let the light shine. > > > Das Goravani > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > : > > > Links > > > valist > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 Hi Dear Rick, Thought I'd share these quotes with you that I read about the same time as your message came through. I'm happy to see you writing and doing well. Love, Patrice These are all from 'Saturn, A New Look At An Old Devil', by Liz Greene. "When the disciple knows Saturn as the God who offers opportunity and does not only feel him to be Deity who brings disaster, then he is on the path of discipleship in truth and in deed and not just theoretically." "Saturn symbolizes a psychic process as well as a quality or kind of experience. He is not merely a representative of pain, restriction, and discipline; he is also a symbol of the psychic process, natural to all human beings, by which an individual may utilize the experience of pain, restriction, and discipline, as a means for greater consciousness and fulfillment." "Most maligned of all the astrological symbols is Saturn, whose face as the Beast is well-recognized but whose alternate face as the Handsome Prince is not often considered; however, without both of these, the symbol cannot communicate its meaning, and the interpretation has only a flat and two-dimensional value for the individual." "There is no fast and easy method of making a friend of Saturn. In many ways the ancient art of alchemy was dedicated to this end; for the base material of alchemy, in which lay the possibility of gold, was called Saturn, and this base material, as well as having a concrete existence, was also considered to be the alchemist himself. Modern psychology, which is paralleling more and more the path of the alchemists, also seeks to make a friend of Saturn although here he is called by other names. But if one is persistent, it is possible to extract the gold, and in the end one may find, if the effort is made, that Saturn has a sense of humour after all - when we have become subtle enough to understand his irony." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 Dear Das, The crow has kept you under guidance for 19 years. Now, the inquisitive puppy takes over. Ashutosh. - Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 <valist> Wednesday, June 29, 2005 20:03 Re: Parting Words > congrats das bhaiiya.....you should distribute > mithai....be in a good spirit always and everytime... > cheers > manoj > > --- Das Goravani <> wrote: > > > > > It¹s been 19 years that I¹ve been with you. > > 19 years you have ruled my life actually. > > > > I have triumphed, > > and suffered greatly, > > under your leadership. > > > > I am not going to miss you, > > But I will never forget you. > > > > I learned a lot from you, > > That I never knew before. > > > > I am wiser. I made it. I¹m still alive. > > > > Shani Dasha is over. > > > > Let the light shine. > > > > > > Das Goravani > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > Links > > > > > > valist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > _________________________ Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec le nouveau Messenger Téléchargez cette version sur http://fr.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 Just few thoughts of mine as I too finished My Shani Mahadasha last September; though Yogkarka of a very high order for me, I wouldn't like to have Shani Mahadasha ever in my life; I don't know what that statement means: "The other face of Saturn is that of a handsome prince". During my Mahadahsa, I almost came to brink of complete devastation; I really don't know how I got through Shani Mahadasha. Not that Mercury Mahadasha is turning out to be any great for me, at least life is no drudgery and full of hardships.........I won't miss Saturn and I would like to forget my Saturn Mahadasha. Das appears to be enlightened soul; so I guess he says he wouldn't like to forget Saturn.....but me, i would be good if my mind becomes clear of all experiences of Saturn Mahadasha..... cheers you all out there; and das you have a good Mercury Mahadasha...... Manoj --- Astrologer Ashutosh <astrologerashutosh wrote: > Dear Das, > The crow has kept you under guidance > for 19 years. Now, the > inquisitive puppy takes over. > > > Ashutosh. > > > > - > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > <valist> > Wednesday, June 29, 2005 20:03 > Re: Parting Words > > > > congrats das bhaiiya.....you should distribute > > mithai....be in a good spirit always and > everytime... > > cheers > > manoj > > > > --- Das Goravani <> wrote: > > > > > > > > It¹s been 19 years that I¹ve been with you. > > > 19 years you have ruled my life actually. > > > > > > I have triumphed, > > > and suffered greatly, > > > under your leadership. > > > > > > I am not going to miss you, > > > But I will never forget you. > > > > > > I learned a lot from you, > > > That I never knew before. > > > > > > I am wiser. I made it. I¹m still alive. > > > > > > Shani Dasha is over. > > > > > > Let the light shine. > > > > > > > > > Das Goravani > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > valist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > > > : > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________ > > Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec le > nouveau Messenger > Téléchargez cette version sur > http://fr.messenger. > > > : > > > Links > > > valist > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 Dear Manoj, To understand the meaning of 'the face of a handsome prince' I am reporting a true incident in my neighbourhood. There lives a man in my neighbourhood who was born on 5th june 1961 at 3.56 am in Delhi, India. Presently he is running trough saturn dasha. During jupiter period, he was involved in smuggling of gold, electronic goods, etc. He boasts of travelling by air more than a thousand times. He is of very dark complexion, ugly, grey haired, stocky, soft spoken but an expert liar. Saturn dasha brought an end to his smuggling career. A chronic alcoholic and with no savings, he became unemployed and was on the mercy of his friends and relatives. Till january 2005, he did odd jobs, spending all his earnings on liquor and loitering around the neighbourhood. All the family he had was a mother and some distant relatives. He lived with his mother in her two room flat, but she never gave him a penny. His bad habits have made him a chronic bachelor too. On january 21st 2005, his mother died. Some friends and relatives came to attend the last rites. They also paid for the rites because he had no money. All pondered about his bleak and lonely future ahead and soon went their way eager to escape his possible demands for some petty cash. For one week he wandered about. Then one day, he opened his mother's favorite trunk. There in it, he found property deeds of three flats besides the one in which he was living. They were on lease to some banking establishments and were giving regular income. There were fixed deposits' documents worth Rupees 30,00000 which is around $60,000. In all he inherited property worth $150,000. The saturn is in capricorn in tenth house. In the first half of its dasha, it brought him down, but then it again gave him a big chance to revive his fortunes. Regards, Ashutosh. - Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 <valist> Thursday, June 30, 2005 19:47 Re: Parting Words > Just few thoughts of mine as I too finished My Shani > Mahadasha last September; though Yogkarka of a very > high order for me, I wouldn't like to have Shani > Mahadasha ever in my life; I don't know what that > statement means: "The other face of Saturn is that of > a handsome prince". During my Mahadahsa, I almost came > to brink of complete devastation; I really don't know > how I got through Shani Mahadasha. Not that Mercury > Mahadasha is turning out to be any great for me, at > least life is no drudgery and full of > hardships.........I won't miss Saturn and I would like > to forget my Saturn Mahadasha. Das appears to be > enlightened soul; so I guess he says he wouldn't like > to forget Saturn.....but me, i would be good if my > mind becomes clear of all experiences of Saturn > Mahadasha..... > cheers you all out there; and das you have a good > Mercury Mahadasha...... > Manoj > > --- Astrologer Ashutosh <astrologerashutosh > wrote: > > > Dear Das, > > The crow has kept you under guidance > > for 19 years. Now, the > > inquisitive puppy takes over. > > > > > > Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > - > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > <valist> > > Wednesday, June 29, 2005 20:03 > > Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > congrats das bhaiiya.....you should distribute > > > mithai....be in a good spirit always and > > everytime... > > > cheers > > > manoj > > > > > > --- Das Goravani <> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > It¹s been 19 years that I¹ve been with you. > > > > 19 years you have ruled my life actually. > > > > > > > > I have triumphed, > > > > and suffered greatly, > > > > under your leadership. > > > > > > > > I am not going to miss you, > > > > But I will never forget you. > > > > > > > > I learned a lot from you, > > > > That I never knew before. > > > > > > > > I am wiser. I made it. I¹m still alive. > > > > > > > > Shani Dasha is over. > > > > > > > > Let the light shine. > > > > > > > > > > > > Das Goravani > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > valist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________ > > > > Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec le > > nouveau Messenger > > Téléchargez cette version sur > > http://fr.messenger. > > > > > > : > > > > > > Links > > > > > > valist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > _________________________ Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec le nouveau Messenger Téléchargez cette version sur http://fr.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 Dear Ashutosh, Interesting chart. Maybe the mutual aspect of Ma (cancelled debilitation) and Sa, retrogression of Sa and the retrograde Jupiter in 10th (in Capricorn) also need to be considered. Now, if the Mars aspect wasn't there and Saturn wasn't retrograde, the man might have had a more even dose of good fortune. Or, if the Jupiter conjunction wasn't there, a more even dose of misfortune. Cheers, Tejpal >"Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh >valist ><valist> >Re: Parting Words >Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:22:43 +0530 > >Dear Manoj, > To understand the meaning of 'the face of a handsome >prince' I am reporting a true incident in my neighbourhood. > There lives a man in my neighbourhood who was born on 5th june >1961 >at 3.56 am in Delhi, India. Presently he is running trough saturn dasha. >During jupiter period, he was involved in smuggling of gold, electronic >goods, etc. He boasts of travelling by air more than a thousand times. > He is of very dark complexion, ugly, grey haired, stocky, soft >spoken but an expert liar. Saturn dasha brought an end to his smuggling >career. A chronic alcoholic and with no savings, he became unemployed and >was on the mercy of his friends and relatives. Till january 2005, he did >odd >jobs, spending all his earnings on liquor and loitering around the >neighbourhood. > All the family he had was a mother and some distant relatives. He >lived with his mother in her two room flat, but she never gave him a penny. >His bad habits have made him a chronic bachelor too. > On january 21st 2005, his mother died. Some friends and relatives >came to attend the last rites. They also paid for the rites because he had >no money. All pondered about his bleak and lonely future ahead and soon >went >their way eager to escape his possible demands for some petty cash. > For one week he wandered about. Then one day, he opened his >mother's >favorite trunk. There in it, he found property deeds of three flats besides >the one in which he was living. They were on lease to some banking >establishments and were giving regular income. There were fixed deposits' >documents worth Rupees 30,00000 which is around $60,000. > In all he inherited property worth $150,000. > > The saturn is in capricorn in tenth house. In the first half of >its >dasha, it brought him down, but then it again gave him a big chance to >revive his fortunes. > > >Regards, > > >Ashutosh. > > >- >Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 ><valist> >Thursday, June 30, 2005 19:47 >Re: Parting Words > > > > Just few thoughts of mine as I too finished My Shani > > Mahadasha last September; though Yogkarka of a very > > high order for me, I wouldn't like to have Shani > > Mahadasha ever in my life; I don't know what that > > statement means: "The other face of Saturn is that of > > a handsome prince". During my Mahadahsa, I almost came > > to brink of complete devastation; I really don't know > > how I got through Shani Mahadasha. Not that Mercury > > Mahadasha is turning out to be any great for me, at > > least life is no drudgery and full of > > hardships.........I won't miss Saturn and I would like > > to forget my Saturn Mahadasha. Das appears to be > > enlightened soul; so I guess he says he wouldn't like > > to forget Saturn.....but me, i would be good if my > > mind becomes clear of all experiences of Saturn > > Mahadasha..... > > cheers you all out there; and das you have a good > > Mercury Mahadasha...... > > Manoj > > > > --- Astrologer Ashutosh <astrologerashutosh > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Das, > > > The crow has kept you under guidance > > > for 19 years. Now, the > > > inquisitive puppy takes over. > > > > > > > > > Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > > <valist> > > > Wednesday, June 29, 2005 20:03 > > > Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > congrats das bhaiiya.....you should distribute > > > > mithai....be in a good spirit always and > > > everytime... > > > > cheers > > > > manoj > > > > > > > > --- Das Goravani <> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It¹s been 19 years that I¹ve been with you. > > > > > 19 years you have ruled my life actually. > > > > > > > > > > I have triumphed, > > > > > and suffered greatly, > > > > > under your leadership. > > > > > > > > > > I am not going to miss you, > > > > > But I will never forget you. > > > > > > > > > > I learned a lot from you, > > > > > That I never knew before. > > > > > > > > > > I am wiser. I made it. I¹m still alive. > > > > > > > > > > Shani Dasha is over. > > > > > > > > > > Let the light shine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Das Goravani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > valist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Dear Tejpal, The debiliated mars and jupiter were responsible for his smuggling career. Retrograde jupiter gave him immense luxuries and wealth during its dasha, although from an unacceptable profession due to jupiter's debiliation in tenth house. Saturn, put him into the right track and he left his unlawful career. But, its retrogression gave him initial severe setbacks and then riches. The irony here is that jupiter's debiliation has weakened saturn's beneficial effects. But, saturn has caused the neechbhanga of jupiter. Here, saturn has sacrificed its powers to make jupiter a benefic. Ashutosh. - Tejpal Chadha <tejpalchadha <valist> Friday, July 01, 2005 15:46 Re: Parting Words > Dear Ashutosh, > > Interesting chart. Maybe the mutual aspect of Ma (cancelled debilitation) > and Sa, retrogression of Sa and the retrograde Jupiter in 10th (in > Capricorn) also need to be considered. Now, if the Mars aspect wasn't there > and Saturn wasn't retrograde, the man might have had a more even dose of > good fortune. Or, if the Jupiter conjunction wasn't there, a more even dose > of misfortune. > > Cheers, > Tejpal > > >"Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh > >valist > ><valist> > >Re: Parting Words > >Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:22:43 +0530 > > > >Dear Manoj, > > To understand the meaning of 'the face of a handsome > >prince' I am reporting a true incident in my neighbourhood. > > There lives a man in my neighbourhood who was born on 5th june > >1961 > >at 3.56 am in Delhi, India. Presently he is running trough saturn dasha. > >During jupiter period, he was involved in smuggling of gold, electronic > >goods, etc. He boasts of travelling by air more than a thousand times. > > He is of very dark complexion, ugly, grey haired, stocky, soft > >spoken but an expert liar. Saturn dasha brought an end to his smuggling > >career. A chronic alcoholic and with no savings, he became unemployed and > >was on the mercy of his friends and relatives. Till january 2005, he did > >odd > >jobs, spending all his earnings on liquor and loitering around the > >neighbourhood. > > All the family he had was a mother and some distant relatives. He > >lived with his mother in her two room flat, but she never gave him a penny. > >His bad habits have made him a chronic bachelor too. > > On january 21st 2005, his mother died. Some friends and relatives > >came to attend the last rites. They also paid for the rites because he had > >no money. All pondered about his bleak and lonely future ahead and soon > >went > >their way eager to escape his possible demands for some petty cash. > > For one week he wandered about. Then one day, he opened his > >mother's > >favorite trunk. There in it, he found property deeds of three flats besides > >the one in which he was living. They were on lease to some banking > >establishments and were giving regular income. There were fixed deposits' > >documents worth Rupees 30,00000 which is around $60,000. > > In all he inherited property worth $150,000. > > > > The saturn is in capricorn in tenth house. In the first half of > >its > >dasha, it brought him down, but then it again gave him a big chance to > >revive his fortunes. > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > >Ashutosh. > > > > > >- > >Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > ><valist> > >Thursday, June 30, 2005 19:47 > >Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > Just few thoughts of mine as I too finished My Shani > > > Mahadasha last September; though Yogkarka of a very > > > high order for me, I wouldn't like to have Shani > > > Mahadasha ever in my life; I don't know what that > > > statement means: "The other face of Saturn is that of > > > a handsome prince". During my Mahadahsa, I almost came > > > to brink of complete devastation; I really don't know > > > how I got through Shani Mahadasha. Not that Mercury > > > Mahadasha is turning out to be any great for me, at > > > least life is no drudgery and full of > > > hardships.........I won't miss Saturn and I would like > > > to forget my Saturn Mahadasha. Das appears to be > > > enlightened soul; so I guess he says he wouldn't like > > > to forget Saturn.....but me, i would be good if my > > > mind becomes clear of all experiences of Saturn > > > Mahadasha..... > > > cheers you all out there; and das you have a good > > > Mercury Mahadasha...... > > > Manoj > > > > > > --- Astrologer Ashutosh <astrologerashutosh > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Das, > > > > The crow has kept you under guidance > > > > for 19 years. Now, the > > > > inquisitive puppy takes over. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > > > <valist> > > > > Wednesday, June 29, 2005 20:03 > > > > Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > > > > congrats das bhaiiya.....you should distribute > > > > > mithai....be in a good spirit always and > > > > everytime... > > > > > cheers > > > > > manoj > > > > > > > > > > --- Das Goravani <> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It¹s been 19 years that I¹ve been with you. > > > > > > 19 years you have ruled my life actually. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have triumphed, > > > > > > and suffered greatly, > > > > > > under your leadership. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not going to miss you, > > > > > > But I will never forget you. > > > > > > > > > > > > I learned a lot from you, > > > > > > That I never knew before. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wiser. I made it. I¹m still alive. > > > > > > > > > > > > Shani Dasha is over. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let the light shine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Das Goravani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > valist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Thanks a ton Ashutosh Bhai, I realy appreciate your help; however, it still doesn't explain to me why my Saturn M<ahadasha gave me so much of humiliation, grief, back breaking hardworking with no substantial returns... Thanks anyways Manoj --- Astrologer Ashutosh <astrologerashutosh wrote: > Dear Manoj, > To understand the meaning of > 'the face of a handsome > prince' I am reporting a true incident in my > neighbourhood. > There lives a man in my neighbourhood who > was born on 5th june 1961 > at 3.56 am in Delhi, India. Presently he is running > trough saturn dasha. > During jupiter period, he was involved in smuggling > of gold, electronic > goods, etc. He boasts of travelling by air more than > a thousand times. > He is of very dark complexion, ugly, grey > haired, stocky, soft > spoken but an expert liar. Saturn dasha brought an > end to his smuggling > career. A chronic alcoholic and with no savings, he > became unemployed and > was on the mercy of his friends and relatives. Till > january 2005, he did odd > jobs, spending all his earnings on liquor and > loitering around the > neighbourhood. > All the family he had was a mother and some > distant relatives. He > lived with his mother in her two room flat, but she > never gave him a penny. > His bad habits have made him a chronic bachelor too. > On january 21st 2005, his mother died. Some > friends and relatives > came to attend the last rites. They also paid for > the rites because he had > no money. All pondered about his bleak and lonely > future ahead and soon went > their way eager to escape his possible demands for > some petty cash. > For one week he wandered about. Then one > day, he opened his mother's > favorite trunk. There in it, he found property deeds > of three flats besides > the one in which he was living. They were on lease > to some banking > establishments and were giving regular income. There > were fixed deposits' > documents worth Rupees 30,00000 which is around > $60,000. > In all he inherited property worth $150,000. > > The saturn is in capricorn in tenth house. > In the first half of its > dasha, it brought him down, but then it again gave > him a big chance to > revive his fortunes. > > > Regards, > > > Ashutosh. > > > - > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > <valist> > Thursday, June 30, 2005 19:47 > Re: Parting Words > > > > Just few thoughts of mine as I too finished My > Shani > > Mahadasha last September; though Yogkarka of a > very > > high order for me, I wouldn't like to have Shani > > Mahadasha ever in my life; I don't know what that > > statement means: "The other face of Saturn is that > of > > a handsome prince". During my Mahadahsa, I almost > came > > to brink of complete devastation; I really don't > know > > how I got through Shani Mahadasha. Not that > Mercury > > Mahadasha is turning out to be any great for me, > at > > least life is no drudgery and full of > > hardships.........I won't miss Saturn and I would > like > > to forget my Saturn Mahadasha. Das appears to be > > enlightened soul; so I guess he says he wouldn't > like > > to forget Saturn.....but me, i would be good if my > > mind becomes clear of all experiences of Saturn > > Mahadasha..... > > cheers you all out there; and das you have a good > > Mercury Mahadasha...... > > Manoj > > > > --- Astrologer Ashutosh > <astrologerashutosh > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Das, > > > The crow has kept you under > guidance > > > for 19 years. Now, the > > > inquisitive puppy takes over. > > > > > > > > > Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > > <valist> > > > Wednesday, June 29, 2005 20:03 > > > Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > congrats das bhaiiya.....you should distribute > > > > mithai....be in a good spirit always and > > > everytime... > > > > cheers > > > > manoj > > > > > > > > --- Das Goravani <> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It¹s been 19 years that I¹ve been with you. > > > > > 19 years you have ruled my life actually. > > > > > > > > > > I have triumphed, > > > > > and suffered greatly, > > > > > under your leadership. > > > > > > > > > > I am not going to miss you, > > > > > But I will never forget you. > > > > > > > > > > I learned a lot from you, > > > > > That I never knew before. > > > > > > > > > > I am wiser. I made it. I¹m still alive. > > > > > > > > > > Shani Dasha is over. > > > > > > > > > > Let the light shine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Das Goravani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > valist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________ > > > > > > Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec > le > === message truncated === __ Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Dear Manoj, For correct analysis of saturn in your horoscope, it will help if you send your birth details. Ashutosh. - Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 <valist> Sunday, July 03, 2005 23:31 Re: Parting Words > Thanks a ton Ashutosh Bhai, > I realy appreciate your help; however, it still > doesn't explain to me why my Saturn M<ahadasha gave me > so much of humiliation, grief, back breaking > hardworking with no substantial returns... > Thanks anyways > Manoj > > --- Astrologer Ashutosh <astrologerashutosh > wrote: > > > Dear Manoj, > > To understand the meaning of > > 'the face of a handsome > > prince' I am reporting a true incident in my > > neighbourhood. > > There lives a man in my neighbourhood who > > was born on 5th june 1961 > > at 3.56 am in Delhi, India. Presently he is running > > trough saturn dasha. > > During jupiter period, he was involved in smuggling > > of gold, electronic > > goods, etc. He boasts of travelling by air more than > > a thousand times. > > He is of very dark complexion, ugly, grey > > haired, stocky, soft > > spoken but an expert liar. Saturn dasha brought an > > end to his smuggling > > career. A chronic alcoholic and with no savings, he > > became unemployed and > > was on the mercy of his friends and relatives. Till > > january 2005, he did odd > > jobs, spending all his earnings on liquor and > > loitering around the > > neighbourhood. > > All the family he had was a mother and some > > distant relatives. He > > lived with his mother in her two room flat, but she > > never gave him a penny. > > His bad habits have made him a chronic bachelor too. > > On january 21st 2005, his mother died. Some > > friends and relatives > > came to attend the last rites. They also paid for > > the rites because he had > > no money. All pondered about his bleak and lonely > > future ahead and soon went > > their way eager to escape his possible demands for > > some petty cash. > > For one week he wandered about. Then one > > day, he opened his mother's > > favorite trunk. There in it, he found property deeds > > of three flats besides > > the one in which he was living. They were on lease > > to some banking > > establishments and were giving regular income. There > > were fixed deposits' > > documents worth Rupees 30,00000 which is around > > $60,000. > > In all he inherited property worth $150,000. > > > > The saturn is in capricorn in tenth house. > > In the first half of its > > dasha, it brought him down, but then it again gave > > him a big chance to > > revive his fortunes. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Ashutosh. > > > > > > - > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > <valist> > > Thursday, June 30, 2005 19:47 > > Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > Just few thoughts of mine as I too finished My > > Shani > > > Mahadasha last September; though Yogkarka of a > > very > > > high order for me, I wouldn't like to have Shani > > > Mahadasha ever in my life; I don't know what that > > > statement means: "The other face of Saturn is that > > of > > > a handsome prince". During my Mahadahsa, I almost > > came > > > to brink of complete devastation; I really don't > > know > > > how I got through Shani Mahadasha. Not that > > Mercury > > > Mahadasha is turning out to be any great for me, > > at > > > least life is no drudgery and full of > > > hardships.........I won't miss Saturn and I would > > like > > > to forget my Saturn Mahadasha. Das appears to be > > > enlightened soul; so I guess he says he wouldn't > > like > > > to forget Saturn.....but me, i would be good if my > > > mind becomes clear of all experiences of Saturn > > > Mahadasha..... > > > cheers you all out there; and das you have a good > > > Mercury Mahadasha...... > > > Manoj > > > > > > --- Astrologer Ashutosh > > <astrologerashutosh > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Das, > > > > The crow has kept you under > > guidance > > > > for 19 years. Now, the > > > > inquisitive puppy takes over. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > > > <valist> > > > > Wednesday, June 29, 2005 20:03 > > > > Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > > > > congrats das bhaiiya.....you should distribute > > > > > mithai....be in a good spirit always and > > > > everytime... > > > > > cheers > > > > > manoj > > > > > > > > > > --- Das Goravani <> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It¹s been 19 years that I¹ve been with you. > > > > > > 19 years you have ruled my life actually. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have triumphed, > > > > > > and suffered greatly, > > > > > > under your leadership. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not going to miss you, > > > > > > But I will never forget you. > > > > > > > > > > > > I learned a lot from you, > > > > > > That I never knew before. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wiser. I made it. I¹m still alive. > > > > > > > > > > > > Shani Dasha is over. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let the light shine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Das Goravani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > valist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________ > > > > > > > > Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec > > le > > > === message truncated === > > > > > __ > Sports > Rekindle the Rivalries. 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Guest guest Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Dear Das Goravani ji, This is with respect to one of my mails that I had written to you wherein I had mentioned that you may be at the fag end of some dasa which had made you write your actual name at the end of all mails. I think that was not used to happen earlier. May be, Mercury has started communicating people that you are coming to your real self. I suppose, last 19 years must have been sheer learning and excellent growth in the spiritual order. What Saturn given no one can. Best regards, Prakash Kandpal - "Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh valist Re: Parting Words Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:17:52 +0530 > > Dear Manoj, > For correct analysis of saturn in your horoscope, it will > help if you send your birth details. > > > Ashutosh. > > > > - > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > <valist> > Sunday, July 03, 2005 23:31 > Re: Parting Words > > > > Thanks a ton Ashutosh Bhai, > > I realy appreciate your help; however, it still > > doesn't explain to me why my Saturn M<ahadasha gave me > > so much of humiliation, grief, back breaking > > hardworking with no substantial returns... > > Thanks anyways > > Manoj > > > > --- Astrologer Ashutosh <astrologerashutosh > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Manoj, > > > To understand the meaning of > > > 'the face of a handsome > > > prince' I am reporting a true incident in my > > > neighbourhood. > > > There lives a man in my neighbourhood who > > > was born on 5th june 1961 > > > at 3.56 am in Delhi, India. Presently he is running > > > trough saturn dasha. > > > During jupiter period, he was involved in smuggling > > > of gold, electronic > > > goods, etc. He boasts of travelling by air more than > > > a thousand times. > > > He is of very dark complexion, ugly, grey > > > haired, stocky, soft > > > spoken but an expert liar. Saturn dasha brought an > > > end to his smuggling > > > career. A chronic alcoholic and with no savings, he > > > became unemployed and > > > was on the mercy of his friends and relatives. Till > > > january 2005, he did odd > > > jobs, spending all his earnings on liquor and > > > loitering around the > > > neighbourhood. > > > All the family he had was a mother and some > > > distant relatives. He > > > lived with his mother in her two room flat, but she > > > never gave him a penny. > > > His bad habits have made him a chronic bachelor too. > > > On january 21st 2005, his mother died. Some > > > friends and relatives > > > came to attend the last rites. They also paid for > > > the rites because he had > > > no money. All pondered about his bleak and lonely > > > future ahead and soon went > > > their way eager to escape his possible demands for > > > some petty cash. > > > For one week he wandered about. Then one > > > day, he opened his mother's > > > favorite trunk. There in it, he found property deeds > > > of three flats besides > > > the one in which he was living. They were on lease > > > to some banking > > > establishments and were giving regular income. There > > > were fixed deposits' > > > documents worth Rupees 30,00000 which is around > > > $60,000. > > > In all he inherited property worth $150,000. > > > > > > The saturn is in capricorn in tenth house. > > > In the first half of its > > > dasha, it brought him down, but then it again gave > > > him a big chance to > > > revive his fortunes. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > - > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > > <valist> > > > Thursday, June 30, 2005 19:47 > > > Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > Just few thoughts of mine as I too finished My > > > Shani > > > > Mahadasha last September; though Yogkarka of a > > > very > > > > high order for me, I wouldn't like to have Shani > > > > Mahadasha ever in my life; I don't know what that > > > > statement means: "The other face of Saturn is that > > > of > > > > a handsome prince". During my Mahadahsa, I almost > > > came > > > > to brink of complete devastation; I really don't > > > know > > > > how I got through Shani Mahadasha. Not that > > > Mercury > > > > Mahadasha is turning out to be any great for me, > > > at > > > > least life is no drudgery and full of > > > > hardships.........I won't miss Saturn and I would > > > like > > > > to forget my Saturn Mahadasha. Das appears to be > > > > enlightened soul; so I guess he says he wouldn't > > > like > > > > to forget Saturn.....but me, i would be good if my > > > > mind becomes clear of all experiences of Saturn > > > > Mahadasha..... > > > > cheers you all out there; and das you have a good > > > > Mercury Mahadasha...... > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > --- Astrologer Ashutosh > > > <astrologerashutosh > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Das, > > > > > The crow has kept you under > > > guidance > > > > > for 19 years. Now, the > > > > > inquisitive puppy takes over. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > > > > <valist> > > > > > Wednesday, June 29, 2005 20:03 > > > > > Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > congrats das bhaiiya.....you should distribute > > > > > > mithai....be in a good spirit always and > > > > > everytime... > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Das Goravani <> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It¹s been 19 years that I¹ve been with you. > > > > > > > 19 years you have ruled my life actually. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have triumphed, > > > > > > > and suffered greatly, > > > > > > > under your leadership. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not going to miss you, > > > > > > > But I will never forget you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I learned a lot from you, > > > > > > > That I never knew before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wiser. I made it. I¹m still alive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shani Dasha is over. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let the light shine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Das Goravani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > valist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Dear Ashutosh, How much credence would you give the belief that retrograde debilitated planets act as exalted? In this case, that would explain the luxuries and wealth during Jupiter's dasa. The unacceptable profession can then be explained by the conjunction with Saturn. Since Saturn itself is retrograde, it's malefic nature is being made more evident (despite being in own house). Explains the effects as well as the neechbhanga yoga by Saturn, but due to different reasons, I suppose. Tejpal >"Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh >valist ><valist> >Re: Parting Words >Sat, 2 Jul 2005 16:20:43 +0530 > >Dear Tejpal, > The debiliated mars and jupiter were responsible for >his >smuggling career. Retrograde jupiter gave him immense luxuries and wealth >during its dasha, although from an unacceptable profession due to jupiter's >debiliation in tenth house. Saturn, put him into the right track and he >left >his unlawful career. But, its retrogression gave him initial severe >setbacks >and then riches. > > The irony here is that jupiter's debiliation has weakened saturn's >beneficial effects. But, saturn has caused the neechbhanga of jupiter. >Here, >saturn has sacrificed its powers to make jupiter a benefic. > > >Ashutosh. > > > > >- >Tejpal Chadha <tejpalchadha ><valist> >Friday, July 01, 2005 15:46 >Re: Parting Words > > > > Dear Ashutosh, > > > > Interesting chart. Maybe the mutual aspect of Ma (cancelled >debilitation) > > and Sa, retrogression of Sa and the retrograde Jupiter in 10th (in > > Capricorn) also need to be considered. Now, if the Mars aspect wasn't >there > > and Saturn wasn't retrograde, the man might have had a more even dose of > > good fortune. Or, if the Jupiter conjunction wasn't there, a more even >dose > > of misfortune. > > > > Cheers, > > Tejpal > > > > >"Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh > > >valist > > ><valist> > > >Re: Parting Words > > >Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:22:43 +0530 > > > > > >Dear Manoj, > > > To understand the meaning of 'the face of a >handsome > > >prince' I am reporting a true incident in my neighbourhood. > > > There lives a man in my neighbourhood who was born on 5th june > > >1961 > > >at 3.56 am in Delhi, India. Presently he is running trough saturn >dasha. > > >During jupiter period, he was involved in smuggling of gold, electronic > > >goods, etc. He boasts of travelling by air more than a thousand times. > > > He is of very dark complexion, ugly, grey haired, stocky, soft > > >spoken but an expert liar. Saturn dasha brought an end to his smuggling > > >career. A chronic alcoholic and with no savings, he became unemployed >and > > >was on the mercy of his friends and relatives. Till january 2005, he >did > > >odd > > >jobs, spending all his earnings on liquor and loitering around the > > >neighbourhood. > > > All the family he had was a mother and some distant relatives. >He > > >lived with his mother in her two room flat, but she never gave him a >penny. > > >His bad habits have made him a chronic bachelor too. > > > On january 21st 2005, his mother died. Some friends and >relatives > > >came to attend the last rites. They also paid for the rites because he >had > > >no money. All pondered about his bleak and lonely future ahead and soon > > >went > > >their way eager to escape his possible demands for some petty cash. > > > For one week he wandered about. Then one day, he opened his > > >mother's > > >favorite trunk. There in it, he found property deeds of three flats >besides > > >the one in which he was living. They were on lease to some banking > > >establishments and were giving regular income. There were fixed >deposits' > > >documents worth Rupees 30,00000 which is around $60,000. > > > In all he inherited property worth $150,000. > > > > > > The saturn is in capricorn in tenth house. In the first half >of > > >its > > >dasha, it brought him down, but then it again gave him a big chance to > > >revive his fortunes. > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > > > > >Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > >- > > >Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > ><valist> > > >Thursday, June 30, 2005 19:47 > > >Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > Just few thoughts of mine as I too finished My Shani > > > > Mahadasha last September; though Yogkarka of a very > > > > high order for me, I wouldn't like to have Shani > > > > Mahadasha ever in my life; I don't know what that > > > > statement means: "The other face of Saturn is that of > > > > a handsome prince". During my Mahadahsa, I almost came > > > > to brink of complete devastation; I really don't know > > > > how I got through Shani Mahadasha. Not that Mercury > > > > Mahadasha is turning out to be any great for me, at > > > > least life is no drudgery and full of > > > > hardships.........I won't miss Saturn and I would like > > > > to forget my Saturn Mahadasha. Das appears to be > > > > enlightened soul; so I guess he says he wouldn't like > > > > to forget Saturn.....but me, i would be good if my > > > > mind becomes clear of all experiences of Saturn > > > > Mahadasha..... > > > > cheers you all out there; and das you have a good > > > > Mercury Mahadasha...... > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > --- Astrologer Ashutosh <astrologerashutosh > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Das, > > > > > The crow has kept you under guidance > > > > > for 19 years. Now, the > > > > > inquisitive puppy takes over. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > > > > <valist> > > > > > Wednesday, June 29, 2005 20:03 > > > > > Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > congrats das bhaiiya.....you should distribute > > > > > > mithai....be in a good spirit always and > > > > > everytime... > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Das Goravani <> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It¹s been 19 years that I¹ve been with you. > > > > > > > 19 years you have ruled my life actually. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have triumphed, > > > > > > > and suffered greatly, > > > > > > > under your leadership. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not going to miss you, > > > > > > > But I will never forget you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I learned a lot from you, > > > > > > > That I never knew before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wiser. 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Guest guest Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Dear Tejpal, Debiliated retrograde planets can not act as exalted. But, they can make one rich and successful. Every planet, exalted or debiliated, has the power to take a person to great heights. Exalted planets make one choose socially and legally right means of success and it is the other way round with debiliated ones. If we study the chart of Hugh Hefner, founder of Playboy Magazine, we find the tenth lord in seventh but in debiliation. He has a profession which is related to seventh house but in an ethically unacceptable way. Debiliated planets cannot shed their negative effects on one's life, health and family life, even if they are retrograde. Ashutosh. - Tejpal Chadha <tejpalchadha <valist> Monday, July 04, 2005 15:34 Re: Parting Words > Dear Ashutosh, > > How much credence would you give the belief that retrograde debilitated > planets act as exalted? In this case, that would explain the luxuries and > wealth during Jupiter's dasa. The unacceptable profession can then be > explained by the conjunction with Saturn. Since Saturn itself is retrograde, > it's malefic nature is being made more evident (despite being in own house). > Explains the effects as well as the neechbhanga yoga by Saturn, but due to > different reasons, I suppose. > > Tejpal > > >"Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh > >valist > ><valist> > >Re: Parting Words > >Sat, 2 Jul 2005 16:20:43 +0530 > > > >Dear Tejpal, > > The debiliated mars and jupiter were responsible for > >his > >smuggling career. Retrograde jupiter gave him immense luxuries and wealth > >during its dasha, although from an unacceptable profession due to jupiter's > >debiliation in tenth house. Saturn, put him into the right track and he > >left > >his unlawful career. But, its retrogression gave him initial severe > >setbacks > >and then riches. > > > > The irony here is that jupiter's debiliation has weakened saturn's > >beneficial effects. But, saturn has caused the neechbhanga of jupiter. > >Here, > >saturn has sacrificed its powers to make jupiter a benefic. > > > > > >Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > >- > >Tejpal Chadha <tejpalchadha > ><valist> > >Friday, July 01, 2005 15:46 > >Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > Dear Ashutosh, > > > > > > Interesting chart. Maybe the mutual aspect of Ma (cancelled > >debilitation) > > > and Sa, retrogression of Sa and the retrograde Jupiter in 10th (in > > > Capricorn) also need to be considered. Now, if the Mars aspect wasn't > >there > > > and Saturn wasn't retrograde, the man might have had a more even dose of > > > good fortune. Or, if the Jupiter conjunction wasn't there, a more even > >dose > > > of misfortune. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Tejpal > > > > > > >"Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh > > > >valist > > > ><valist> > > > >Re: Parting Words > > > >Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:22:43 +0530 > > > > > > > >Dear Manoj, > > > > To understand the meaning of 'the face of a > >handsome > > > >prince' I am reporting a true incident in my neighbourhood. > > > > There lives a man in my neighbourhood who was born on 5th june > > > >1961 > > > >at 3.56 am in Delhi, India. Presently he is running trough saturn > >dasha. > > > >During jupiter period, he was involved in smuggling of gold, electronic > > > >goods, etc. He boasts of travelling by air more than a thousand times. > > > > He is of very dark complexion, ugly, grey haired, stocky, soft > > > >spoken but an expert liar. Saturn dasha brought an end to his smuggling > > > >career. A chronic alcoholic and with no savings, he became unemployed > >and > > > >was on the mercy of his friends and relatives. Till january 2005, he > >did > > > >odd > > > >jobs, spending all his earnings on liquor and loitering around the > > > >neighbourhood. > > > > All the family he had was a mother and some distant relatives. > >He > > > >lived with his mother in her two room flat, but she never gave him a > >penny. > > > >His bad habits have made him a chronic bachelor too. > > > > On january 21st 2005, his mother died. Some friends and > >relatives > > > >came to attend the last rites. They also paid for the rites because he > >had > > > >no money. All pondered about his bleak and lonely future ahead and soon > > > >went > > > >their way eager to escape his possible demands for some petty cash. > > > > For one week he wandered about. Then one day, he opened his > > > >mother's > > > >favorite trunk. There in it, he found property deeds of three flats > >besides > > > >the one in which he was living. They were on lease to some banking > > > >establishments and were giving regular income. There were fixed > >deposits' > > > >documents worth Rupees 30,00000 which is around $60,000. > > > > In all he inherited property worth $150,000. > > > > > > > > The saturn is in capricorn in tenth house. In the first half > >of > > > >its > > > >dasha, it brought him down, but then it again gave him a big chance to > > > >revive his fortunes. > > > > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > >Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > > > >- > > > >Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > > ><valist> > > > >Thursday, June 30, 2005 19:47 > > > >Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just few thoughts of mine as I too finished My Shani > > > > > Mahadasha last September; though Yogkarka of a very > > > > > high order for me, I wouldn't like to have Shani > > > > > Mahadasha ever in my life; I don't know what that > > > > > statement means: "The other face of Saturn is that of > > > > > a handsome prince". During my Mahadahsa, I almost came > > > > > to brink of complete devastation; I really don't know > > > > > how I got through Shani Mahadasha. Not that Mercury > > > > > Mahadasha is turning out to be any great for me, at > > > > > least life is no drudgery and full of > > > > > hardships.........I won't miss Saturn and I would like > > > > > to forget my Saturn Mahadasha. Das appears to be > > > > > enlightened soul; so I guess he says he wouldn't like > > > > > to forget Saturn.....but me, i would be good if my > > > > > mind becomes clear of all experiences of Saturn > > > > > Mahadasha..... > > > > > cheers you all out there; and das you have a good > > > > > Mercury Mahadasha...... > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > --- Astrologer Ashutosh <astrologerashutosh > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Das, > > > > > > The crow has kept you under guidance > > > > > > for 19 years. Now, the > > > > > > inquisitive puppy takes over. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > > > > > <valist> > > > > > > Wednesday, June 29, 2005 20:03 > > > > > > Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > congrats das bhaiiya.....you should distribute > > > > > > > mithai....be in a good spirit always and > > > > > > everytime... > > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > > manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Das Goravani <> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It¹s been 19 years that I¹ve been with you. > > > > > > > > 19 years you have ruled my life actually. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have triumphed, > > > > > > > > and suffered greatly, > > > > > > > > under your leadership. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not going to miss you, > > > > > > > > But I will never forget you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I learned a lot from you, > > > > > > > > That I never knew before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wiser. 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Guest guest Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Dear Ashutosh, That's a good example and illustrates your point well. The discussion brings the case of Michael Jordan to mind. Retrograde, debilitated Mars in the 4th house, hence aspecting the 10th. He achieved fame, fortune throughout his career as a leading scorer in the NBA. He left college in 1984 to play for the Chicago Bulls. He finished his first season (1984-1985) as one of the top scorers in the league. He was running Ketu:Mars from beginning till mid-1985. Jordan announced his retirement prior to the 1993-1994 season. He ended his retirement from professional basketball by rejoining the Bulls near the end of the 1994-1995 NBA regular season. In the 1995-1996 season he enjoyed another great year, leading the NBA in scoring. He was running Venus:Mars at the time. His birth details are Feb 17, 1963, 10:20 am, 73 W 56, 40 N 38. Cheers, Tejpal >"Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh >valist ><valist> >Re: Parting Words >Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:59:19 +0530 > >Dear Tejpal, > Debiliated retrograde planets can not act as exalted. >But, they can make one rich and successful. Every planet, exalted or >debiliated, has the power to take a person to great heights. Exalted >planets >make one choose socially and legally right means of success and it is the >other way round with debiliated ones. > > If we study the chart of Hugh Hefner, founder of Playboy Magazine, >we find the tenth lord in seventh but in debiliation. He has a profession >which is related to seventh house but in an ethically unacceptable way. > > Debiliated planets cannot shed their negative effects on one's >life, >health and family life, even if they are retrograde. > > >Ashutosh. > > > >- >Tejpal Chadha <tejpalchadha ><valist> >Monday, July 04, 2005 15:34 >Re: Parting Words > > > > Dear Ashutosh, > > > > How much credence would you give the belief that retrograde debilitated > > planets act as exalted? In this case, that would explain the luxuries >and > > wealth during Jupiter's dasa. The unacceptable profession can then be > > explained by the conjunction with Saturn. Since Saturn itself is >retrograde, > > it's malefic nature is being made more evident (despite being in own >house). > > Explains the effects as well as the neechbhanga yoga by Saturn, but due >to > > different reasons, I suppose. > > > > Tejpal > > > > >"Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh > > >valist > > ><valist> > > >Re: Parting Words > > >Sat, 2 Jul 2005 16:20:43 +0530 > > > > > >Dear Tejpal, > > > The debiliated mars and jupiter were responsible >for > > >his > > >smuggling career. Retrograde jupiter gave him immense luxuries and >wealth > > >during its dasha, although from an unacceptable profession due to >jupiter's > > >debiliation in tenth house. Saturn, put him into the right track and he > > >left > > >his unlawful career. But, its retrogression gave him initial severe > > >setbacks > > >and then riches. > > > > > > The irony here is that jupiter's debiliation has weakened >saturn's > > >beneficial effects. But, saturn has caused the neechbhanga of jupiter. > > >Here, > > >saturn has sacrificed its powers to make jupiter a benefic. > > > > > > > > >Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >- > > >Tejpal Chadha <tejpalchadha > > ><valist> > > >Friday, July 01, 2005 15:46 > > >Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashutosh, > > > > > > > > Interesting chart. Maybe the mutual aspect of Ma (cancelled > > >debilitation) > > > > and Sa, retrogression of Sa and the retrograde Jupiter in 10th (in > > > > Capricorn) also need to be considered. Now, if the Mars aspect >wasn't > > >there > > > > and Saturn wasn't retrograde, the man might have had a more even >dose >of > > > > good fortune. Or, if the Jupiter conjunction wasn't there, a more >even > > >dose > > > > of misfortune. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Tejpal > > > > > > > > >"Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh > > > > >valist > > > > ><valist> > > > > >Re: Parting Words > > > > >Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:22:43 +0530 > > > > > > > > > >Dear Manoj, > > > > > To understand the meaning of 'the face of a > > >handsome > > > > >prince' I am reporting a true incident in my neighbourhood. > > > > > There lives a man in my neighbourhood who was born on 5th >june > > > > >1961 > > > > >at 3.56 am in Delhi, India. Presently he is running trough saturn > > >dasha. > > > > >During jupiter period, he was involved in smuggling of gold, >electronic > > > > >goods, etc. He boasts of travelling by air more than a thousand >times. > > > > > He is of very dark complexion, ugly, grey haired, stocky, >soft > > > > >spoken but an expert liar. Saturn dasha brought an end to his >smuggling > > > > >career. A chronic alcoholic and with no savings, he became >unemployed > > >and > > > > >was on the mercy of his friends and relatives. Till january 2005, >he > > >did > > > > >odd > > > > >jobs, spending all his earnings on liquor and loitering around the > > > > >neighbourhood. > > > > > All the family he had was a mother and some distant >relatives. > > >He > > > > >lived with his mother in her two room flat, but she never gave him >a > > >penny. > > > > >His bad habits have made him a chronic bachelor too. > > > > > On january 21st 2005, his mother died. Some friends and > > >relatives > > > > >came to attend the last rites. They also paid for the rites because >he > > >had > > > > >no money. All pondered about his bleak and lonely future ahead and >soon > > > > >went > > > > >their way eager to escape his possible demands for some petty cash. > > > > > For one week he wandered about. Then one day, he opened >his > > > > >mother's > > > > >favorite trunk. There in it, he found property deeds of three flats > > >besides > > > > >the one in which he was living. They were on lease to some banking > > > > >establishments and were giving regular income. There were fixed > > >deposits' > > > > >documents worth Rupees 30,00000 which is around $60,000. > > > > > In all he inherited property worth $150,000. > > > > > > > > > > The saturn is in capricorn in tenth house. In the first >half > > >of > > > > >its > > > > >dasha, it brought him down, but then it again gave him a big chance >to > > > > >revive his fortunes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >- > > > > >Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > > > ><valist> > > > > >Thursday, June 30, 2005 19:47 > > > > >Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just few thoughts of mine as I too finished My Shani > > > > > > Mahadasha last September; though Yogkarka of a very > > > > > > high order for me, I wouldn't like to have Shani > > > > > > Mahadasha ever in my life; I don't know what that > > > > > > statement means: "The other face of Saturn is that of > > > > > > a handsome prince". During my Mahadahsa, I almost came > > > > > > to brink of complete devastation; I really don't know > > > > > > how I got through Shani Mahadasha. Not that Mercury > > > > > > Mahadasha is turning out to be any great for me, at > > > > > > least life is no drudgery and full of > > > > > > hardships.........I won't miss Saturn and I would like > > > > > > to forget my Saturn Mahadasha. Das appears to be > > > > > > enlightened soul; so I guess he says he wouldn't like > > > > > > to forget Saturn.....but me, i would be good if my > > > > > > mind becomes clear of all experiences of Saturn > > > > > > Mahadasha..... > > > > > > cheers you all out there; and das you have a good > > > > > > Mercury Mahadasha...... > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Astrologer Ashutosh <astrologerashutosh > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Das, > > > > > > > The crow has kept you under guidance > > > > > > > for 19 years. Now, the > > > > > > > inquisitive puppy takes over. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > > > > > > <valist> > > > > > > > Wednesday, June 29, 2005 20:03 > > > > > > > Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > congrats das bhaiiya.....you should distribute > > > > > > > > mithai....be in a good spirit always and > > > > > > > everytime... > > > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > > > manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Das Goravani <> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It¹s been 19 years that I¹ve been with you. > > > > > > > > > 19 years you have ruled my life actually. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have triumphed, > > > > > > > > > and suffered greatly, > > > > > > > > > under your leadership. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not going to miss you, > > > > > > > > > But I will never forget you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I learned a lot from you, > > > > > > > > > That I never knew before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wiser. 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Guest guest Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 Dear Tejpal, Please give the place of birth for Michael Jordan so that I can use the correct time zone. Ashutosh. - Tejpal Chadha <tejpalchadha <valist> Monday, July 04, 2005 18:21 Re: Parting Words > Dear Ashutosh, > > That's a good example and illustrates your point well. > > The discussion brings the case of Michael Jordan to mind. Retrograde, > debilitated Mars in the 4th house, hence aspecting the 10th. He achieved > fame, fortune throughout his career as a leading scorer in the NBA. He left > college in 1984 to play for the Chicago Bulls. He finished his first season > (1984-1985) as one of the top scorers in the league. He was running > Ketu:Mars from beginning till mid-1985. Jordan announced his retirement > prior to the 1993-1994 season. He ended his retirement from professional > basketball by rejoining the Bulls near the end of the 1994-1995 NBA regular > season. In the 1995-1996 season he enjoyed another great year, leading the > NBA in scoring. He was running Venus:Mars at the time. > > His birth details are Feb 17, 1963, 10:20 am, 73 W 56, 40 N 38. > > Cheers, > Tejpal > > >"Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh > >valist > ><valist> > >Re: Parting Words > >Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:59:19 +0530 > > > >Dear Tejpal, > > Debiliated retrograde planets can not act as exalted. > >But, they can make one rich and successful. Every planet, exalted or > >debiliated, has the power to take a person to great heights. Exalted > >planets > >make one choose socially and legally right means of success and it is the > >other way round with debiliated ones. > > > > If we study the chart of Hugh Hefner, founder of Playboy Magazine, > >we find the tenth lord in seventh but in debiliation. He has a profession > >which is related to seventh house but in an ethically unacceptable way. > > > > Debiliated planets cannot shed their negative effects on one's > >life, > >health and family life, even if they are retrograde. > > > > > >Ashutosh. > > > > > > > >- > >Tejpal Chadha <tejpalchadha > ><valist> > >Monday, July 04, 2005 15:34 > >Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > Dear Ashutosh, > > > > > > How much credence would you give the belief that retrograde debilitated > > > planets act as exalted? In this case, that would explain the luxuries > >and > > > wealth during Jupiter's dasa. The unacceptable profession can then be > > > explained by the conjunction with Saturn. Since Saturn itself is > >retrograde, > > > it's malefic nature is being made more evident (despite being in own > >house). > > > Explains the effects as well as the neechbhanga yoga by Saturn, but due > >to > > > different reasons, I suppose. > > > > > > Tejpal > > > > > > >"Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh > > > >valist > > > ><valist> > > > >Re: Parting Words > > > >Sat, 2 Jul 2005 16:20:43 +0530 > > > > > > > >Dear Tejpal, > > > > The debiliated mars and jupiter were responsible > >for > > > >his > > > >smuggling career. Retrograde jupiter gave him immense luxuries and > >wealth > > > >during its dasha, although from an unacceptable profession due to > >jupiter's > > > >debiliation in tenth house. Saturn, put him into the right track and he > > > >left > > > >his unlawful career. But, its retrogression gave him initial severe > > > >setbacks > > > >and then riches. > > > > > > > > The irony here is that jupiter's debiliation has weakened > >saturn's > > > >beneficial effects. But, saturn has caused the neechbhanga of jupiter. > > > >Here, > > > >saturn has sacrificed its powers to make jupiter a benefic. > > > > > > > > > > > >Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >- > > > >Tejpal Chadha <tejpalchadha > > > ><valist> > > > >Friday, July 01, 2005 15:46 > > > >Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashutosh, > > > > > > > > > > Interesting chart. Maybe the mutual aspect of Ma (cancelled > > > >debilitation) > > > > > and Sa, retrogression of Sa and the retrograde Jupiter in 10th (in > > > > > Capricorn) also need to be considered. Now, if the Mars aspect > >wasn't > > > >there > > > > > and Saturn wasn't retrograde, the man might have had a more even > >dose > >of > > > > > good fortune. Or, if the Jupiter conjunction wasn't there, a more > >even > > > >dose > > > > > of misfortune. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Tejpal > > > > > > > > > > >"Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh > > > > > >valist > > > > > ><valist> > > > > > >Re: Parting Words > > > > > >Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:22:43 +0530 > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Manoj, > > > > > > To understand the meaning of 'the face of a > > > >handsome > > > > > >prince' I am reporting a true incident in my neighbourhood. > > > > > > There lives a man in my neighbourhood who was born on 5th > >june > > > > > >1961 > > > > > >at 3.56 am in Delhi, India. Presently he is running trough saturn > > > >dasha. > > > > > >During jupiter period, he was involved in smuggling of gold, > >electronic > > > > > >goods, etc. He boasts of travelling by air more than a thousand > >times. > > > > > > He is of very dark complexion, ugly, grey haired, stocky, > >soft > > > > > >spoken but an expert liar. Saturn dasha brought an end to his > >smuggling > > > > > >career. A chronic alcoholic and with no savings, he became > >unemployed > > > >and > > > > > >was on the mercy of his friends and relatives. Till january 2005, > >he > > > >did > > > > > >odd > > > > > >jobs, spending all his earnings on liquor and loitering around the > > > > > >neighbourhood. > > > > > > All the family he had was a mother and some distant > >relatives. > > > >He > > > > > >lived with his mother in her two room flat, but she never gave him > >a > > > >penny. > > > > > >His bad habits have made him a chronic bachelor too. > > > > > > On january 21st 2005, his mother died. Some friends and > > > >relatives > > > > > >came to attend the last rites. They also paid for the rites because > >he > > > >had > > > > > >no money. All pondered about his bleak and lonely future ahead and > >soon > > > > > >went > > > > > >their way eager to escape his possible demands for some petty cash. > > > > > > For one week he wandered about. Then one day, he opened > >his > > > > > >mother's > > > > > >favorite trunk. There in it, he found property deeds of three flats > > > >besides > > > > > >the one in which he was living. They were on lease to some banking > > > > > >establishments and were giving regular income. There were fixed > > > >deposits' > > > > > >documents worth Rupees 30,00000 which is around $60,000. > > > > > > In all he inherited property worth $150,000. > > > > > > > > > > > > The saturn is in capricorn in tenth house. In the first > >half > > > >of > > > > > >its > > > > > >dasha, it brought him down, but then it again gave him a big chance > >to > > > > > >revive his fortunes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >- > > > > > >Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > > > > ><valist> > > > > > >Thursday, June 30, 2005 19:47 > > > > > >Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just few thoughts of mine as I too finished My Shani > > > > > > > Mahadasha last September; though Yogkarka of a very > > > > > > > high order for me, I wouldn't like to have Shani > > > > > > > Mahadasha ever in my life; I don't know what that > > > > > > > statement means: "The other face of Saturn is that of > > > > > > > a handsome prince". During my Mahadahsa, I almost came > > > > > > > to brink of complete devastation; I really don't know > > > > > > > how I got through Shani Mahadasha. Not that Mercury > > > > > > > Mahadasha is turning out to be any great for me, at > > > > > > > least life is no drudgery and full of > > > > > > > hardships.........I won't miss Saturn and I would like > > > > > > > to forget my Saturn Mahadasha. Das appears to be > > > > > > > enlightened soul; so I guess he says he wouldn't like > > > > > > > to forget Saturn.....but me, i would be good if my > > > > > > > mind becomes clear of all experiences of Saturn > > > > > > > Mahadasha..... > > > > > > > cheers you all out there; and das you have a good > > > > > > > Mercury Mahadasha...... > > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Astrologer Ashutosh <astrologerashutosh > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Das, > > > > > > > > The crow has kept you under guidance > > > > > > > > for 19 years. Now, the > > > > > > > > inquisitive puppy takes over. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > > > > > > > <valist> > > > > > > > > Wednesday, June 29, 2005 20:03 > > > > > > > > Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > congrats das bhaiiya.....you should distribute > > > > > > > > > mithai....be in a good spirit always and > > > > > > > > everytime... > > > > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > > > > manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Das Goravani <> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It¹s been 19 years that I¹ve been with you. > > > > > > > > > > 19 years you have ruled my life actually. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have triumphed, > > > > > > > > > > and suffered greatly, > > > > > > > > > > under your leadership. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not going to miss you, > > > > > > > > > > But I will never forget you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I learned a lot from you, > > > > > > > > > > That I never knew before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wiser. 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Guest guest Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 Dear Ashutosh, It's Brooklyn, NY. GMT - 5h. Tejpal >"Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh >valist ><valist> >Re: Parting Words >Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:41:01 +0530 > >Dear Tejpal, > Please give the place of birth for Michael Jordan so >that >I can use the correct time zone. > > >Ashutosh. > > > >- >Tejpal Chadha <tejpalchadha ><valist> >Monday, July 04, 2005 18:21 >Re: Parting Words > > > > Dear Ashutosh, > > > > That's a good example and illustrates your point well. > > > > The discussion brings the case of Michael Jordan to mind. Retrograde, > > debilitated Mars in the 4th house, hence aspecting the 10th. He achieved > > fame, fortune throughout his career as a leading scorer in the NBA. He >left > > college in 1984 to play for the Chicago Bulls. He finished his first >season > > (1984-1985) as one of the top scorers in the league. He was running > > Ketu:Mars from beginning till mid-1985. Jordan announced his retirement > > prior to the 1993-1994 season. He ended his retirement from professional > > basketball by rejoining the Bulls near the end of the 1994-1995 NBA >regular > > season. In the 1995-1996 season he enjoyed another great year, leading >the > > NBA in scoring. He was running Venus:Mars at the time. > > > > His birth details are Feb 17, 1963, 10:20 am, 73 W 56, 40 N 38. > > > > Cheers, > > Tejpal > > > > >"Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh > > >valist > > ><valist> > > >Re: Parting Words > > >Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:59:19 +0530 > > > > > >Dear Tejpal, > > > Debiliated retrograde planets can not act as >exalted. > > >But, they can make one rich and successful. Every planet, exalted or > > >debiliated, has the power to take a person to great heights. Exalted > > >planets > > >make one choose socially and legally right means of success and it is >the > > >other way round with debiliated ones. > > > > > > If we study the chart of Hugh Hefner, founder of Playboy >Magazine, > > >we find the tenth lord in seventh but in debiliation. He has a >profession > > >which is related to seventh house but in an ethically unacceptable way. > > > > > > Debiliated planets cannot shed their negative effects on one's > > >life, > > >health and family life, even if they are retrograde. > > > > > > > > >Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > > > >- > > >Tejpal Chadha <tejpalchadha > > ><valist> > > >Monday, July 04, 2005 15:34 > > >Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashutosh, > > > > > > > > How much credence would you give the belief that retrograde >debilitated > > > > planets act as exalted? In this case, that would explain the >luxuries > > >and > > > > wealth during Jupiter's dasa. The unacceptable profession can then >be > > > > explained by the conjunction with Saturn. Since Saturn itself is > > >retrograde, > > > > it's malefic nature is being made more evident (despite being in own > > >house). > > > > Explains the effects as well as the neechbhanga yoga by Saturn, but >due > > >to > > > > different reasons, I suppose. > > > > > > > > Tejpal > > > > > > > > >"Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh > > > > >valist > > > > ><valist> > > > > >Re: Parting Words > > > > >Sat, 2 Jul 2005 16:20:43 +0530 > > > > > > > > > >Dear Tejpal, > > > > > The debiliated mars and jupiter were >responsible > > >for > > > > >his > > > > >smuggling career. Retrograde jupiter gave him immense luxuries and > > >wealth > > > > >during its dasha, although from an unacceptable profession due to > > >jupiter's > > > > >debiliation in tenth house. Saturn, put him into the right track >and >he > > > > >left > > > > >his unlawful career. But, its retrogression gave him initial severe > > > > >setbacks > > > > >and then riches. > > > > > > > > > > The irony here is that jupiter's debiliation has weakened > > >saturn's > > > > >beneficial effects. But, saturn has caused the neechbhanga of >jupiter. > > > > >Here, > > > > >saturn has sacrificed its powers to make jupiter a benefic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >- > > > > >Tejpal Chadha <tejpalchadha > > > > ><valist> > > > > >Friday, July 01, 2005 15:46 > > > > >Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashutosh, > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting chart. Maybe the mutual aspect of Ma (cancelled > > > > >debilitation) > > > > > > and Sa, retrogression of Sa and the retrograde Jupiter in 10th >(in > > > > > > Capricorn) also need to be considered. Now, if the Mars aspect > > >wasn't > > > > >there > > > > > > and Saturn wasn't retrograde, the man might have had a more even > > >dose > > >of > > > > > > good fortune. Or, if the Jupiter conjunction wasn't there, a >more > > >even > > > > >dose > > > > > > of misfortune. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Tejpal > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh > > > > > > >valist > > > > > > ><valist> > > > > > > >Re: Parting Words > > > > > > >Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:22:43 +0530 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Manoj, > > > > > > > To understand the meaning of 'the face of >a > > > > >handsome > > > > > > >prince' I am reporting a true incident in my neighbourhood. > > > > > > > There lives a man in my neighbourhood who was born on >5th > > >june > > > > > > >1961 > > > > > > >at 3.56 am in Delhi, India. Presently he is running trough >saturn > > > > >dasha. > > > > > > >During jupiter period, he was involved in smuggling of gold, > > >electronic > > > > > > >goods, etc. He boasts of travelling by air more than a thousand > > >times. > > > > > > > He is of very dark complexion, ugly, grey haired, >stocky, > > >soft > > > > > > >spoken but an expert liar. Saturn dasha brought an end to his > > >smuggling > > > > > > >career. A chronic alcoholic and with no savings, he became > > >unemployed > > > > >and > > > > > > >was on the mercy of his friends and relatives. Till january >2005, > > >he > > > > >did > > > > > > >odd > > > > > > >jobs, spending all his earnings on liquor and loitering around >the > > > > > > >neighbourhood. > > > > > > > All the family he had was a mother and some distant > > >relatives. > > > > >He > > > > > > >lived with his mother in her two room flat, but she never gave >him > > >a > > > > >penny. > > > > > > >His bad habits have made him a chronic bachelor too. > > > > > > > On january 21st 2005, his mother died. Some friends >and > > > > >relatives > > > > > > >came to attend the last rites. They also paid for the rites >because > > >he > > > > >had > > > > > > >no money. All pondered about his bleak and lonely future ahead >and > > >soon > > > > > > >went > > > > > > >their way eager to escape his possible demands for some petty >cash. > > > > > > > For one week he wandered about. Then one day, he >opened > > >his > > > > > > >mother's > > > > > > >favorite trunk. There in it, he found property deeds of three >flats > > > > >besides > > > > > > >the one in which he was living. They were on lease to some >banking > > > > > > >establishments and were giving regular income. There were fixed > > > > >deposits' > > > > > > >documents worth Rupees 30,00000 which is around $60,000. > > > > > > > In all he inherited property worth $150,000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The saturn is in capricorn in tenth house. In the >first > > >half > > > > >of > > > > > > >its > > > > > > >dasha, it brought him down, but then it again gave him a big >chance > > >to > > > > > > >revive his fortunes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >- > > > > > > >Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > > > > > ><valist> > > > > > > >Thursday, June 30, 2005 19:47 > > > > > > >Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just few thoughts of mine as I too finished My Shani > > > > > > > > Mahadasha last September; though Yogkarka of a very > > > > > > > > high order for me, I wouldn't like to have Shani > > > > > > > > Mahadasha ever in my life; I don't know what that > > > > > > > > statement means: "The other face of Saturn is that of > > > > > > > > a handsome prince". During my Mahadahsa, I almost came > > > > > > > > to brink of complete devastation; I really don't know > > > > > > > > how I got through Shani Mahadasha. Not that Mercury > > > > > > > > Mahadasha is turning out to be any great for me, at > > > > > > > > least life is no drudgery and full of > > > > > > > > hardships.........I won't miss Saturn and I would like > > > > > > > > to forget my Saturn Mahadasha. Das appears to be > > > > > > > > enlightened soul; so I guess he says he wouldn't like > > > > > > > > to forget Saturn.....but me, i would be good if my > > > > > > > > mind becomes clear of all experiences of Saturn > > > > > > > > Mahadasha..... > > > > > > > > cheers you all out there; and das you have a good > > > > > > > > Mercury Mahadasha...... > > > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Astrologer Ashutosh <astrologerashutosh > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Das, > > > > > > > > > The crow has kept you under guidance > > > > > > > > > for 19 years. Now, the > > > > > > > > > inquisitive puppy takes over. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > > > > > > > > <valist> > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, June 29, 2005 20:03 > > > > > > > > > Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > congrats das bhaiiya.....you should distribute > > > > > > > > > > mithai....be in a good spirit always and > > > > > > > > > everytime... > > > > > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > > > > > manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Das Goravani <> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It¹s been 19 years that I¹ve been with you. > > > > > > > > > > > 19 years you have ruled my life actually. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have triumphed, > > > > > > > > > > > and suffered greatly, > > > > > > > > > > > under your leadership. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not going to miss you, > > > > > > > > > > > But I will never forget you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I learned a lot from you, > > > > > > > > > > > That I never knew before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wiser. 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Guest guest Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Dear Manoj, Can you please share your birth data? You may have shared it earlier but I missed it. Let me have a look at it please. Regards, Prakash - "Manoj Sharma" <manojsharma662000 valist Re: Parting Words Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:01:59 -0700 (PDT) > > Thanks a ton Ashutosh Bhai, > I realy appreciate your help; however, it still > doesn't explain to me why my Saturn M<ahadasha gave me > so much of humiliation, grief, back breaking > hardworking with no substantial returns... > Thanks anyways > Manoj > > --- Astrologer Ashutosh <astrologerashutosh > wrote: > > > Dear Manoj, > > To understand the meaning of > > 'the face of a handsome > > prince' I am reporting a true incident in my > > neighbourhood. > > There lives a man in my neighbourhood who > > was born on 5th june 1961 > > at 3.56 am in Delhi, India. Presently he is running > > trough saturn dasha. > > During jupiter period, he was involved in smuggling > > of gold, electronic > > goods, etc. He boasts of travelling by air more than > > a thousand times. > > He is of very dark complexion, ugly, grey > > haired, stocky, soft > > spoken but an expert liar. Saturn dasha brought an > > end to his smuggling > > career. A chronic alcoholic and with no savings, he > > became unemployed and > > was on the mercy of his friends and relatives. Till > > january 2005, he did odd > > jobs, spending all his earnings on liquor and > > loitering around the > > neighbourhood. > > All the family he had was a mother and some > > distant relatives. He > > lived with his mother in her two room flat, but she > > never gave him a penny. > > His bad habits have made him a chronic bachelor too. > > On january 21st 2005, his mother died. Some > > friends and relatives > > came to attend the last rites. They also paid for > > the rites because he had > > no money. All pondered about his bleak and lonely > > future ahead and soon went > > their way eager to escape his possible demands for > > some petty cash. > > For one week he wandered about. Then one > > day, he opened his mother's > > favorite trunk. There in it, he found property deeds > > of three flats besides > > the one in which he was living. They were on lease > > to some banking > > establishments and were giving regular income. There > > were fixed deposits' > > documents worth Rupees 30,00000 which is around > > $60,000. > > In all he inherited property worth $150,000. > > > > The saturn is in capricorn in tenth house. > > In the first half of its > > dasha, it brought him down, but then it again gave > > him a big chance to > > revive his fortunes. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Ashutosh. > > > > > > - > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > <valist> > > Thursday, June 30, 2005 19:47 > > Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > Just few thoughts of mine as I too finished My > > Shani > > > Mahadasha last September; though Yogkarka of a > > very > > > high order for me, I wouldn't like to have Shani > > > Mahadasha ever in my life; I don't know what that > > > statement means: "The other face of Saturn is that > > of > > > a handsome prince". During my Mahadahsa, I almost > > came > > > to brink of complete devastation; I really don't > > know > > > how I got through Shani Mahadasha. Not that > > Mercury > > > Mahadasha is turning out to be any great for me, > > at > > > least life is no drudgery and full of > > > hardships.........I won't miss Saturn and I would > > like > > > to forget my Saturn Mahadasha. Das appears to be > > > enlightened soul; so I guess he says he wouldn't > > like > > > to forget Saturn.....but me, i would be good if my > > > mind becomes clear of all experiences of Saturn > > > Mahadasha..... > > > cheers you all out there; and das you have a good > > > Mercury Mahadasha...... > > > Manoj > > > > > > --- Astrologer Ashutosh > > <astrologerashutosh > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Das, > > > > The crow has kept you under > > guidance > > > > for 19 years. Now, the > > > > inquisitive puppy takes over. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > > > <valist> > > > > Wednesday, June 29, 2005 20:03 > > > > Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > > > > congrats das bhaiiya.....you should distribute > > > > > mithai....be in a good spirit always and > > > > everytime... > > > > > cheers > > > > > manoj > > > > > > > > > > --- Das Goravani <> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It¹s been 19 years that I¹ve been with you. > > > > > > 19 years you have ruled my life actually. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have triumphed, > > > > > > and suffered greatly, > > > > > > under your leadership. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not going to miss you, > > > > > > But I will never forget you. > > > > > > > > > > > > I learned a lot from you, > > > > > > That I never knew before. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wiser. I made it. I¹m still alive. > > > > > > > > > > > > Shani Dasha is over. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let the light shine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Das Goravani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > valist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________ > > > > > > > > Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec > > le > > > === message truncated === > > > > > __ > Sports > Rekindle the Rivalries. 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Guest guest Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Well, here it goes; Time: 5.35 AM Place: Baraut (40 Kms North of Delhi) June 1, 1966 Best Regards Manoj --- Prakash Kandpal <Pck wrote: > Dear Manoj, > > Can you please share your birth data? > > You may have shared it earlier but I missed it. > > Let me have a look at it please. > > Regards, > Prakash > - > "Manoj Sharma" <manojsharma662000 > valist > Re: Parting Words > Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:01:59 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > Thanks a ton Ashutosh Bhai, > > I realy appreciate your help; however, it still > > doesn't explain to me why my Saturn M<ahadasha > gave me > > so much of humiliation, grief, back breaking > > hardworking with no substantial returns... > > Thanks anyways > > Manoj > > > > --- Astrologer Ashutosh > <astrologerashutosh > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Manoj, > > > To understand the meaning of > > > 'the face of a handsome > > > prince' I am reporting a true incident in my > > > neighbourhood. > > > There lives a man in my neighbourhood > who > > > was born on 5th june 1961 > > > at 3.56 am in Delhi, India. Presently he is > running > > > trough saturn dasha. > > > During jupiter period, he was involved in > smuggling > > > of gold, electronic > > > goods, etc. He boasts of travelling by air more > than > > > a thousand times. > > > He is of very dark complexion, ugly, > grey > > > haired, stocky, soft > > > spoken but an expert liar. Saturn dasha brought > an > > > end to his smuggling > > > career. A chronic alcoholic and with no savings, > he > > > became unemployed and > > > was on the mercy of his friends and relatives. > Till > > > january 2005, he did odd > > > jobs, spending all his earnings on liquor and > > > loitering around the > > > neighbourhood. > > > All the family he had was a mother and > some > > > distant relatives. He > > > lived with his mother in her two room flat, but > she > > > never gave him a penny. > > > His bad habits have made him a chronic bachelor > too. > > > On january 21st 2005, his mother died. > Some > > > friends and relatives > > > came to attend the last rites. They also paid > for > > > the rites because he had > > > no money. All pondered about his bleak and > lonely > > > future ahead and soon went > > > their way eager to escape his possible demands > for > > > some petty cash. > > > For one week he wandered about. Then one > > > day, he opened his mother's > > > favorite trunk. There in it, he found property > deeds > > > of three flats besides > > > the one in which he was living. They were on > lease > > > to some banking > > > establishments and were giving regular income. > There > > > were fixed deposits' > > > documents worth Rupees 30,00000 which is around > > > $60,000. > > > In all he inherited property worth > $150,000. > > > > > > The saturn is in capricorn in tenth > house. > > > In the first half of its > > > dasha, it brought him down, but then it again > gave > > > him a big chance to > > > revive his fortunes. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > - > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > > <valist> > > > Thursday, June 30, 2005 19:47 > > > Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > Just few thoughts of mine as I too finished My > > > Shani > > > > Mahadasha last September; though Yogkarka of a > > > very > > > > high order for me, I wouldn't like to have > Shani > > > > Mahadasha ever in my life; I don't know what > that > > > > statement means: "The other face of Saturn is > that > > > of > > > > a handsome prince". During my Mahadahsa, I > almost > > > came > > > > to brink of complete devastation; I really > don't > > > know > > > > how I got through Shani Mahadasha. Not that > > > Mercury > > > > Mahadasha is turning out to be any great for > me, > > > at > > > > least life is no drudgery and full of > > > > hardships.........I won't miss Saturn and I > would > > > like > > > > to forget my Saturn Mahadasha. Das appears to > be > > > > enlightened soul; so I guess he says he > wouldn't > > > like > > > > to forget Saturn.....but me, i would be good > if my > > > > mind becomes clear of all experiences of > Saturn > > > > Mahadasha..... > > > > cheers you all out there; and das you have a > good > > > > Mercury Mahadasha...... > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > --- Astrologer Ashutosh > > > <astrologerashutosh > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Das, > > > > > The crow has kept you under > > > guidance > > > > > for 19 years. Now, the > > > > > inquisitive puppy takes over. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ashutosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Manoj Sharma > <manojsharma662000 > > > > > <valist> > > > > > Wednesday, June 29, 2005 20:03 > > > > > Re: Parting Words > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > congrats das bhaiiya.....you should > distribute > > > > > > mithai....be in a good spirit always and > > > > > everytime... > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Das Goravani <> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It¹s been 19 years that I¹ve been with > you. > > > > > > > 19 years you have ruled my life > actually. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have triumphed, > > > > > > > and suffered greatly, > === message truncated === __ Start your day with - make it your home page http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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