RE: Theory of Past and Future Life Analysis

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I think that one's 9th house and the house in which Sun resides give a clue

to the previous incarnation. Reason being the 9th house is the significator

of dharma and the Sun denotes the soul. Maybe saying the previous

incarnation is not entirely true. More like the development and inclination

of the individual's soul. Which indirectly gives a clue to the previous

incarnation.

 

Cheers,

Tejpal

 

>"John" <jr_esq

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>Theory of Past and Future Life Analysis

>Wed, 08 Jun 2005 19:14:03 -0000

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>To all members:

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>A few years ago, I read a passage on Nadi Astrology which stated that

>past and future lives can be deciphered from the location of Jupiter

>in the natal chart. The 12th house from Jupiter would reveal the

>previous incarnation of the individual. The 2nd house from Jupiter

>would reveal the future incarnation of the person.

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>Based on feedback from people who consulted with me, I believe that

>it is possible for one to get a glimpse of the past life through

>dreams. For example,

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> A woman coworker, who was born in France, had visions through her

>dreams that she was once a man who was learned and lived in China.

>Based on this forum's discussions about dreams, I recently verified

>to see the configuration of the planets from her 9th house. It

>turned out that she has Saturn in the natal 3rd house and exalted

>Rahu in the lagna.

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> As I informed her, this configuration accounted for her prophetic

>dream. Located in the 7th from the 9th house, Saturn, a significator

>of old age and a foreigner, has a direct aspect to the house of

>dreams and accounted for her vision of being an old man from China.

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> Exalted Rahu, being in the 5th house from the house of dreams,

>accounted for her vision of being learned and endowed with esoteric

>learning.

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>Using the theory from Nadi Astrology, we can make an inference as to

>what previous incarnation did this vision come from. Since she had

>Jupiter in the 6th house, we can say that this vision was coming from

>her 10th previous incarnation, since the 9th house is the 10th house

>from the 6th house in the backward rotation.

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>Any thoughts about this conjecture?

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>Regards,

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>John R.

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[Guest guest]

I didn't read the first posting that started this thread. I read a

response.

 

I just want to say that the idea of linear progress of spiritual or

mental/emotional evolution, or recognizing any pattern at all, is subject to

dismissal at the end of the day, because in fact we do not know how these

things are organized. We in fact do not know if reincarnation is happening,

and if it is, how it is, or even if it follows a pattern. We in fact know

nothing at all about this subject, but we have lots of inference and built

up belief systems around it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Fair enough. Just like we do not know whether the planets are actually

demigods, or just huge rocks floating around in space. Just like we do not

know whether there's an entity who's created Nature, life, and a system for

dishing out bouquets and brickbats in accordance with one's actions. Or

whether we've just evolved from apes, apes from fish, fish from

micro-organisms, micro-organisms from complex carbon molecules, and so on,

in the absence of any higher power.

 

We in fact know nothing about the subject. No doubt. Knowledge here refers

to what can be seen, heard, felt. All we've gathered is based on inference,

conjecture, guesswork, theories and counter-theories. But isn't that the

point here? Isn't calling the subject of Jyotish obscure, a gross

understatement? Haven't we all accepted the lack of concrete evidence as a

given, and consequently set out to try to discover the truth?

 

Tejpal

 

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>Re: Theory of Past and Future Life Analysis

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> Haven't we all accepted the lack of concrete evidence as a

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Totally true. I guess I just got sunburned by the know it all's including

myself, and am in a period on the other side of the balance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Das Goravani wrote:

 

We in fact know nothing at all about this subject, but we have lots of

inferences and built up belief systems around it.

 

 

Hi Rick,

 

I agree.... I have met various persons who have seen their past lives in

meditation or through psychic powers, and who can also see others past lives.

That is 'their' particular reality however.. not mine.

 

I have a 'belief' and 'knowledge' about the subject, cultivated from various

sources i.e. friends, gurus, shastras etc, and I've had a few dreams that

indicated specific past lives etc--but these are not equitable to a fundamental,

direct understanding on a day to day (or minute to minute) basis, of my own past

lives.

 

 

Examining other of my various belief systems, often leads me to the same

conclusion. Although I may presume to 'know' a lot about various subjects,

this so called knowledge falls apart at a certain level of examination

(something like the domino effect--push one domino over and all the rest

collapse as a consequence).

 

 

Best,

 

Steve

 

 

 

 

 

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|| Om Gurave Namah ||

 

Dear Friends,

 

In my understanding, Shastra like Jyotish Vedanga etc rely on

understanding of Jeevaatma, Paramaatma, reincarnations etc.

 

Science's hall mark is replicability when expiremented. Material

Sciences show replicability thru observable and measurable matter in

universe.

 

Whereas, Shastra relies on replicability by Experience. When we

follow the medidation techniques using mantra, pranayama etc. The

individual experiences it and thus validates the fact. But the

individual cannot easily express it to others who have not followed or

done the experiment themselves. The importance is the self has to

realize the fact, to vouche for it.

 

Whether how much Sad or Happy one is cannot be expressed, but when

the other person who has has similar experience can very well

understand the fact. Since these are very personal levels, The Puranas

tell them as stories of individuals. Thus, we attach personal bonding

to the various characters and experience the same thru the story. Thru

the sequence of emotions the story takes us thru, one realise many

facts. Thus, Sometimes even 'Bhakti'(Love) which is very abstract

concept, they attempt to teach thru Stories in Puraana. Normally we

all know Love cannot be taught.

 

Internal Self Experiements (of Mantra, Yoga, Paranayama etc) as

Guided by various teachers thru thier personal teachings, books etc

can be used systematically to understand facts Like Jeevatama,

Paramatmaa etc. Until one does follow and understand them they will

remain as useless texts.

 

These are my few thoughts.

 

Warm regards

SAnjay P

 

Hari Om Tat Sat

 

 

 

valist, Steven Stuckey <steven@l...> wrote:

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> Das Goravani wrote:

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> We in fact know nothing at all about this subject, but we have

lots of inferences and built up belief systems around it.

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> Hi Rick,

>

> I agree.... I have met various persons who have seen their past

lives in meditation or through psychic powers, and who can also see

others past lives. That is 'their' particular reality however.. not mine.

>

> I have a 'belief' and 'knowledge' about the subject, cultivated from

various sources i.e. friends, gurus, shastras etc, and I've had a few

dreams that indicated specific past lives etc--but these are not

equitable to a fundamental, direct understanding on a day to day (or

minute to minute) basis, of my own past lives.

>

>

> Examining other of my various belief systems, often leads me to the

same conclusion. Although I may presume to 'know' a lot about various

subjects,

> this so called knowledge falls apart at a certain level of

examination (something like the domino effect--push one domino over

and all the rest collapse as a consequence).

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> Best,

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> Steve

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