Retrograde planet in lagna-some obseravations onretrograde plants

May 24, 2005

Dear Prakash,

I have observed saturn giving more benfits than

jupiter in its dasha for cancer ascendent (mine too). Indira Gandhi and

George Bush Jr are some well-known examples. Jupiter imparts knowledge and

the native strives for excellence but no reasonable monetary gains are

caused by it. Saturn improves financial and social conditions but causes

health problems and accidents.

You have a horoscope fit for a successful politician or a religious

leader. A brilliant speaker and a very good teacher, you have the potential

to move people according to your desires. But, a weak seventh house has

somewhat slowed your success. Your true nature is of an ascetic who does not

want any worldly bondages like marriage.

Health is a cause of concern. We will certainly see you attaining

fame in helping the downtrodden.

Regards,

Ashutosh.

-

Prakash Kandpal <Pck

Cc: <gurudatta_d

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 14:13

Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some obseravations onretrograde

plants

> Dear Shri Gurudatta Dash ji,

>

> Yes, you have analysed the situation very positively and I agree with

almost all of your points.

>

> Saturn has 3 SAV points in Gemini and is affected by Jupiter (5th aspect),

Mars (7th aspect) & Moon (all beneifc planets for Cancer ascendant-also moon

is powerful since I was born on Shukla Trayodashi). My observation is also

similar to yours with respect to Saturn working more as a benefic than a

malefic. Saturn also happens to occupy Punarvasu asterism that is ruled by

Jupiter.

>

> There is "dainya yoga" because of exchange of Mercury (in Capricorn) &

Saturn retrograde (in Gemini). To view this in totality you may like to

analyse/see the chart. The birth details are as follows:

>

> DOB - 25th January, 1975

> TOB - 5 PM

> POB - Almora, Uttaranchal, India (earlier UP)

> 29.37 N 79.40 E

>

> Saturn occupies Aries (10th house) in D-9 chart together with Sun.

>

> I see some changes at the career level, can you please see this. I am

seeing changes for more than 7-8 months on this count.

>

> On the mental state, I have become spiritual and philosophical over the

last few years and like to watch spiritual channels and listen to present

day saints; have also got interest in listening the devotional songs.

>

> Thanks for your comments.

>

> Regards,

> Prakash Kandpal

>

> -

> "Dr. Gurudatta Dash" <gurudatta_d

> valist

> Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some obseravations on

retrograde plants

> Tue, 24 May 2005 13:17:19 +0530

>

> >

> > Dear sri Praksh

> >

> > you r correct in your observations. But u got good period in retrograde

> > malefic Saturn Dasa , not because of the fact that it is retrograde ,

but it

> > caused a yoga due its association with the yogakaarak and ascendant lord

> > moon. Where as the aspect has much value as you have correctly observed.

> >

> > it is a common rule of astrology that whenever a malefic joins a benefic

the

> > Dasa period of malefic gives good result and the Dasa of benefic not so

good

> > result.

> >

> > And in this case it is doubly so as

> >

> > A VEEPARITA RAAJAYOGA IS ALSO CASUSED DUE TO THE PLACE MENT OF 8TH

LORD IN

> > 12TH . IT IS THIS YOGA THAT GAVE U GOOD RESULT LARGELY.

> >

> > now retrogression of a planet only causes the strength to increase , so

your

> > Saturn which is a neutral for cancer ascendant becomes a practically

benefic

> > planet as it is in association with moon , the Lagna lord. And involved

in

> > Veeparita Raajayoga , also if it is being aspected by benefices such as

> > yogakaarak mars or Jupiter then it would surely give good result.

> >

> > so the whether a planet would operate as Subha or papa in its Dasa

period

> > depends on its placement, whether it is involved in any yoga is or not

and

> > the total configuration and not just one aspect as you have correctly

> > observed.

> >

> > And if a planet is involved in a powerful yoga, the ordinary effects

would

> > be superseded by the Yoga-effect.

> >

> > Also, most of a time a planet when posited in the yoga -causing planets

> > asterism gives benefic result even though it may be it self evil and may

be

> > in bad house.

> >

> > now whenever a planet is in mithuna , it would be either in the asterism

of

> > mars . Rahu or Jupiter . Mars and Jupiter being high rate yoga karakas

for

> > cancer Lagna, many a time any planet in the 12 th house of loss for

cancer

> > ascendant instead of giving bad results give very good results .

> >

> > and for this reason only an exalted Venus in Pisces in the asterism of

> > mercury even though strong and in Bhaagya Bhaava , most auspicious place

in

> > a horoscope almost always gives adverse results in its Dasa or bhukti,

as

> > mercury is high rate malefic for cancer ascendant.

> >

> > so my humble opinion is that your Saturn placed with Lagna lord moon in

the

> > asterism of a benefic and involved in a Veeparita Raajayoga for all

> > practical purposes would operate as benefic in its Dasa and bhukti and

the

> > retrogression only adds to its strength.

> >

> > However such a placement of moon may cause sometimes deep depression and

may

> > lead to secluded life and a strange vacancy in the heart. Emotional

> > frustrations are sometimes seen in such cases. However this observation

of

> > mine should be modified in accordance with the other planetary

situations.

> >

> > and as per your reference to SADESATI, or transits of planets it is

> > misleading to sudy the effect without taking help of ASTAKAVARGA , if

the

> > sign transited by Saturn has got more benefic points it would surely

give

> > good results whether it is Sadesati or not.

> >

> > Some experts opine that the 2nd round of Sadesati usually not as adverse

as

> > others.

> >

> > We are grateful to you for sharing your observations with us giving us a

> > practical matter to study and it surely helped me to augment my

experience

> > in vedic astrology.

> >

> > Thanking you

> >

> > Gurudatta Dash

> >

> > -

> > "Prakash Kandpal" <Pck

> > <valist>

> > Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:36 AM

> > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some obseravations on

> > retrograde plants

> >

> > > Dear Friends,

> > >

> > > Dont know about other's experiences but I am going through malefic &

> > retrograde Saturn's dasa, sadesaati, Saturn return etc. and its good and

I

> > have progressed in this more than in benefic planets dasa.

> > >

> > > I have Cancer ascendant and retrograde Saturn occupies 12th house with

> > Moon.

> > >

> > > I think aspects count a lot on such retrograde planet besides the

> > planetary exchanges relating to the house where the planet is retrograde

> > also it need to be seen whether the planet that is retrograde is

yogakaraka

> > or not both from the Moon & ascendant specifically.

> > >

> > > The planets need to be seen in totality rather than just being seen as

> > retrograde or direct.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Prakash

> > >

> > > -

> > > "Dr. Gurudatta Dash" <gurudatta_d

> > > valist

> > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some obseravations on

> > retrograde plants

> > > Tue, 24 May 2005 00:20:54 +0530

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear sri Tarun

> > > >

> > > > Be absolutely sure that Jupiter in Lagna even when retrograde is an

> > asset

> > > > and saves the native from many negatives , this is supported by

> > ancient

> > > > authorities and confirmed by our experience. However the effect may

be

> > > > modified due its lordship and raasi in which the Lagna is .

sometimes it

> > may

> > > > become week to do good or stronger than direct.

> > > >

> > > > For example if Lagna is cancer and the Jupiter is placed and if the

> > lagan is

> > > > Capricorn with Jupiter the result would never be same.

> > > >

> > > > RETROGRESSION being an additional bala , only modifies the effects

but

> > can

> > > > not change the nature of the planet.

> > > >

> > > > Suppose a person is good & helping and he has 10 rupees with him, he

> > could

> > > > help people with only 10 rupees , but if he has 100 rupees his power

of

> > > > doing good would surely increase.

> > > >

> > > > Now suppose a person is destructive and he has 10 rupees, he would

not

> > help

> > > > any body for his nature is bad, instead he would utilize this amount

for

> > > > negative purposes. Now if he has 100 rupees his power of evil would

> > only

> > > > increase.

> > > >

> > > > so is the case with retrograde benefices and malefices.

> > > >

> > > > Gurudatta Dash

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst

> > > > <valist>

> > > > Saturday, May 21, 2005 8:05 PM

> > > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some obseravations on

> > > > retrograde plants

> > > >

> > > > > HEllo Gurudatta ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I read ur mail..and found a different opinion from the rest of

> > > > > astrologers,because many said that retro planets are maelefic even

> > > > > jupiter or venus or some else.

> > > > >

> > > > > Like it is said if jupiter is in lagna and retro it creates

problem

> > > > > to native in every field..

> > > > >

> > > > > but u have a very strong point abt chesta bala..

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks

> > > > >

> > > > > tarun...

> > > > >

> > > > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > > > > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > It is not that retrograde planets are always bad.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Infact retrograde planets are supposed to be powerful and there

> > > > > BALA is

> > > > > > known as CHESTA BALA . And when calculating the AYURDAAYA i. e .

> > > > > longevity

> > > > > > the points are doubled when the planet is in retrogression.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But how the retrograde planets give results practically is a

matter

> > > > > of

> > > > > > controversy. Even certain Raajayogas are based on the

retrogression

> > > > > of the

> > > > > > planet as the pivotal point.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is held that such planets give the opposite result as is

expected

> > > > > > noramally because of its placement. i.e. such a planet in

> > > > > debilitation gives

> > > > > > the result as if exalted and when in exaltation or in own house

in

> > > > > > retrogression ,- - quite ordinary result.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Some authorities say that benefices when retro become very

> > > > > auspicious and

> > > > > > malefic very malefic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also certain planets are ascribed specifics results when they

are

> > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > e.g. Jupiter when retrograde--- the person becomes successful

where

> > > > > other

> > > > > > peoples fail and losses good opportunities.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Venus is said to be give highly auspicious result in its dasa

and

> > > > > bhukty

> > > > > > when retrograde.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > However as a general rule mars and Saturn when retrograde are

> > > > > considered to

> > > > > > be highly destructive and malefics.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In my horoscope Jupiter is retrograde and it gave quite

auspicious

> > > > > result

> > > > > > even though it is in libra - enemy sign. Of course it is my 9 th

> > > > > lord and is

> > > > > > placed in 4th aspected by yogakaarak mars and in exchange with

an

> > > > > exalted

> > > > > > Venus. Still I consider Jupiter in this particular case gave

good

> > > > > result

> > > > > > partly due to its retrogression

> > > > > > - > "~~Tarun~~"

<tarun_vst>

> > > > > > "Valist" <valist>; "jyotish remedies"

> > > > > > <>; "Vedic Adtrology"

> > > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > > Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:59 PM

> > > > > > Retrograde planet in lagna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > hello learned members,,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i wish to ask for opinion of the members,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > that if a planet is retrograde and placed in lagna...then it

> > > > > gives a

> > > > > > mentality or thinking in retro direction means like ketu or rahu

> > > > > are always

> > > > > > retro..(as what i know)...

> > > > > > > the same way...retro means backward...like we move a car in

> > > > > backward

> > > > > > direction and we see backward so that we dont hit any thing

behind

> > > > > > > the same way a planet sees behind and its special drishti see

> > > > > behind

> > > > > > too..like saturn has 3rd and 10th aspect...and in retro it will

> > > > > count

> > > > > > backwards...means if it is placed in 12th house than its retro

> > > > > drishti will

> > > > > > be on planet placed in 10th house and so on....got it

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > and even if a nice planet like jupiter (big malefic for virgo

> > > > > even lord of

> > > > > > 4and 7th ...and yog karak for libra even lord of 3rd and 6th..)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > is in lagna and retro then the person will think like a

> > > > > retro ...as rahu

> > > > > > or ketu in lagna says the person will be crazy...means he

dontknow

> > > > > right and

> > > > > > wrong ...if he is told something to do ...he can do it

....without

> > > > > thinking

> > > > > > it right or wrong...

> > > > > > > the same way the retro jupiter will effect ...the same

way...being

> > > > > > spiritual but it will behave like ...ego......and thinks ...he

is

> > > > > right but

> > > > > > he is wrong.....

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > at last i want to say that the retro jupiter in lagna will say

> > > > > that the

> > > > > > person will do sinful deeds or say negative things but he will

> > > > > think he is

> > > > > > right...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > kindly tell me how much i have understood the topic.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > tarun.....

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May 25, 2005

Dear Shri Ashutosh ji,

Thank you very much for your kind interest in my chart.

The first paragraph is absolutely correct.

In the second, yes I have the ability to influence people with my words and

in-fact I gave tutions for about 6-7 years before settling into the current

support function in a Pharma company.

Jupiter mahadasa had been very tough to me but Saturn has proved to be good.

I dont see weak 7th house as such because of the exchange of Saturn & Mercury

and 7th lord being influenced all the three functional benefic planets.

I dont know about the future, yes I try to help people as much as I can.

Currently this is fructifying in the form of vedic astrology. Can you let me

know what made you predict about my getting fame in future.

Regards,

Prakash

-

"Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh

valist

Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some obseravations onretrograde

plants

Wed, 25 May 2005 08:50:18 +0530

>

> Dear Prakash,

> I have observed saturn giving more benfits than

> jupiter in its dasha for cancer ascendent (mine too). Indira Gandhi and

> George Bush Jr are some well-known examples. Jupiter imparts knowledge and

> the native strives for excellence but no reasonable monetary gains are

> caused by it. Saturn improves financial and social conditions but causes

> health problems and accidents.

> You have a horoscope fit for a successful politician or a religious

> leader. A brilliant speaker and a very good teacher, you have the potential

> to move people according to your desires. But, a weak seventh house has

> somewhat slowed your success. Your true nature is of an ascetic who does not

> want any worldly bondages like marriage.

> Health is a cause of concern. We will certainly see you attaining

> fame in helping the downtrodden.

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh.

>

> -

> Prakash Kandpal <Pck

> <valist>

> Cc: <gurudatta_d

> Tuesday, May 24, 2005 14:13

> Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some obseravations onretrograde

> plants

>

> > Dear Shri Gurudatta Dash ji,

> >

> > Yes, you have analysed the situation very positively and I agree with

> almost all of your points.

> >

> > Saturn has 3 SAV points in Gemini and is affected by Jupiter (5th aspect),

> Mars (7th aspect) & Moon (all beneifc planets for Cancer ascendant-also moon

> is powerful since I was born on Shukla Trayodashi). My observation is also

> similar to yours with respect to Saturn working more as a benefic than a

> malefic. Saturn also happens to occupy Punarvasu asterism that is ruled by

> Jupiter.

> >

> > There is "dainya yoga" because of exchange of Mercury (in Capricorn) &

> Saturn retrograde (in Gemini). To view this in totality you may like to

> analyse/see the chart. The birth details are as follows:

> >

> > DOB - 25th January, 1975

> > TOB - 5 PM

> > POB - Almora, Uttaranchal, India (earlier UP)

> > 29.37 N 79.40 E

> >

> > Saturn occupies Aries (10th house) in D-9 chart together with Sun.

> >

> > I see some changes at the career level, can you please see this. I am

> seeing changes for more than 7-8 months on this count.

> >

> > On the mental state, I have become spiritual and philosophical over the

> last few years and like to watch spiritual channels and listen to present

> day saints; have also got interest in listening the devotional songs.

> >

> > Thanks for your comments.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Prakash Kandpal

> >

> > -

> > "Dr. Gurudatta Dash" <gurudatta_d

> > valist

> > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some obseravations on

> retrograde plants

> > Tue, 24 May 2005 13:17:19 +0530

> >

> > >

> > > Dear sri Praksh

> > >

> > > you r correct in your observations. But u got good period in retrograde

> > > malefic Saturn Dasa , not because of the fact that it is retrograde ,

> but it

> > > caused a yoga due its association with the yogakaarak and ascendant lord

> > > moon. Where as the aspect has much value as you have correctly observed.

> > >

> > > it is a common rule of astrology that whenever a malefic joins a benefic

> the

> > > Dasa period of malefic gives good result and the Dasa of benefic not so

> good

> > > result.

> > >

> > > And in this case it is doubly so as

> > >

> > > A VEEPARITA RAAJAYOGA IS ALSO CASUSED DUE TO THE PLACE MENT OF 8TH

> LORD IN

> > > 12TH . IT IS THIS YOGA THAT GAVE U GOOD RESULT LARGELY.

> > >

> > > now retrogression of a planet only causes the strength to increase , so

> your

> > > Saturn which is a neutral for cancer ascendant becomes a practically

> benefic

> > > planet as it is in association with moon , the Lagna lord. And involved

> in

> > > Veeparita Raajayoga , also if it is being aspected by benefices such as

> > > yogakaarak mars or Jupiter then it would surely give good result.

> > >

> > > so the whether a planet would operate as Subha or papa in its Dasa

> period

> > > depends on its placement, whether it is involved in any yoga is or not

> and

> > > the total configuration and not just one aspect as you have correctly

> > > observed.

> > >

> > > And if a planet is involved in a powerful yoga, the ordinary effects

> would

> > > be superseded by the Yoga-effect.

> > >

> > > Also, most of a time a planet when posited in the yoga -causing planets

> > > asterism gives benefic result even though it may be it self evil and may

> be

> > > in bad house.

> > >

> > > now whenever a planet is in mithuna , it would be either in the asterism

> of

> > > mars . Rahu or Jupiter . Mars and Jupiter being high rate yoga karakas

> for

> > > cancer Lagna, many a time any planet in the 12 th house of loss for

> cancer

> > > ascendant instead of giving bad results give very good results .

> > >

> > > and for this reason only an exalted Venus in Pisces in the asterism of

> > > mercury even though strong and in Bhaagya Bhaava , most auspicious place

> in

> > > a horoscope almost always gives adverse results in its Dasa or bhukti,

> as

> > > mercury is high rate malefic for cancer ascendant.

> > >

> > > so my humble opinion is that your Saturn placed with Lagna lord moon in

> the

> > > asterism of a benefic and involved in a Veeparita Raajayoga for all

> > > practical purposes would operate as benefic in its Dasa and bhukti and

> the

> > > retrogression only adds to its strength.

> > >

> > > However such a placement of moon may cause sometimes deep depression and

> may

> > > lead to secluded life and a strange vacancy in the heart. Emotional

> > > frustrations are sometimes seen in such cases. However this observation

> of

> > > mine should be modified in accordance with the other planetary

> situations.

> > >

> > > and as per your reference to SADESATI, or transits of planets it is

> > > misleading to sudy the effect without taking help of ASTAKAVARGA , if

> the

> > > sign transited by Saturn has got more benefic points it would surely

> give

> > > good results whether it is Sadesati or not.

> > >

> > > Some experts opine that the 2nd round of Sadesati usually not as adverse

> as

> > > others.

> > >

> > > We are grateful to you for sharing your observations with us giving us a

> > > practical matter to study and it surely helped me to augment my

> experience

> > > in vedic astrology.

> > >

> > > Thanking you

> > >

> > > Gurudatta Dash

> > >

> > > -

> > > "Prakash Kandpal" <Pck

> > > <valist>

> > > Tuesday, May 24, 2005 9:36 AM

> > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some obseravations on

> > > retrograde plants

> > >

> > > > Dear Friends,

> > > >

> > > > Dont know about other's experiences but I am going through malefic &

> > > retrograde Saturn's dasa, sadesaati, Saturn return etc. and its good and

> I

> > > have progressed in this more than in benefic planets dasa.

> > > >

> > > > I have Cancer ascendant and retrograde Saturn occupies 12th house with

> > > Moon.

> > > >

> > > > I think aspects count a lot on such retrograde planet besides the

> > > planetary exchanges relating to the house where the planet is retrograde

> > > also it need to be seen whether the planet that is retrograde is

> yogakaraka

> > > or not both from the Moon & ascendant specifically.

> > > >

> > > > The planets need to be seen in totality rather than just being seen as

> > > retrograde or direct.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Prakash

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > "Dr. Gurudatta Dash" <gurudatta_d

> > > > valist

> > > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some obseravations on

> > > retrograde plants

> > > > Tue, 24 May 2005 00:20:54 +0530

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear sri Tarun

> > > > >

> > > > > Be absolutely sure that Jupiter in Lagna even when retrograde is an

> > > asset

> > > > > and saves the native from many negatives , this is supported by

> > > ancient

> > > > > authorities and confirmed by our experience. However the effect may

> be

> > > > > modified due its lordship and raasi in which the Lagna is .

> sometimes it

> > > may

> > > > > become week to do good or stronger than direct.

> > > > >

> > > > > For example if Lagna is cancer and the Jupiter is placed and if the

> > > lagan is

> > > > > Capricorn with Jupiter the result would never be same.

> > > > >

> > > > > RETROGRESSION being an additional bala , only modifies the effects

> but

> > > can

> > > > > not change the nature of the planet.

> > > > >

> > > > > Suppose a person is good & helping and he has 10 rupees with him, he

> > > could

> > > > > help people with only 10 rupees , but if he has 100 rupees his power

> of

> > > > > doing good would surely increase.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now suppose a person is destructive and he has 10 rupees, he would

> not

> > > help

> > > > > any body for his nature is bad, instead he would utilize this amount

> for

> > > > > negative purposes. Now if he has 100 rupees his power of evil would

> > > only

> > > > > increase.

> > > > >

> > > > > so is the case with retrograde benefices and malefices.

> > > > >

> > > > > Gurudatta Dash

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst

> > > > > <valist>

> > > > > Saturday, May 21, 2005 8:05 PM

> > > > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some obseravations on

> > > > > retrograde plants

> > > > >

> > > > > > HEllo Gurudatta ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I read ur mail..and found a different opinion from the rest of

> > > > > > astrologers,because many said that retro planets are maelefic even

> > > > > > jupiter or venus or some else.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Like it is said if jupiter is in lagna and retro it creates

> problem

> > > > > > to native in every field..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > but u have a very strong point abt chesta bala..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tarun...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > > > > > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > > It is not that retrograde planets are always bad.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Infact retrograde planets are supposed to be powerful and there

> > > > > > BALA is

> > > > > > > known as CHESTA BALA . And when calculating the AYURDAAYA i. e .

> > > > > > longevity

> > > > > > > the points are doubled when the planet is in retrogression.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But how the retrograde planets give results practically is a

> matter

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > controversy. Even certain Raajayogas are based on the

> retrogression

> > > > > > of the

> > > > > > > planet as the pivotal point.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is held that such planets give the opposite result as is

> expected

> > > > > > > noramally because of its placement. i.e. such a planet in

> > > > > > debilitation gives

> > > > > > > the result as if exalted and when in exaltation or in own house

> in

> > > > > > > retrogression ,- - quite ordinary result.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Some authorities say that benefices when retro become very

> > > > > > auspicious and

> > > > > > > malefic very malefic.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also certain planets are ascribed specifics results when they

> are

> > > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > e.g. Jupiter when retrograde--- the person becomes successful

> where

> > > > > > other

> > > > > > > peoples fail and losses good opportunities.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Venus is said to be give highly auspicious result in its dasa

> and

> > > > > > bhukty

> > > > > > > when retrograde.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > However as a general rule mars and Saturn when retrograde are

> > > > > > considered to

> > > > > > > be highly destructive and malefics.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In my horoscope Jupiter is retrograde and it gave quite

> auspicious

> > > > > > result

> > > > > > > even though it is in libra - enemy sign. Of course it is my 9 th

> > > > > > lord and is

> > > > > > > placed in 4th aspected by yogakaarak mars and in exchange with

> an

> > > > > > exalted

> > > > > > > Venus. Still I consider Jupiter in this particular case gave

> good

> > > > > > result

> > > > > > > partly due to its retrogression

> > > > > > > - > "~~Tarun~~"

> <tarun_vst>

> > > > > > > "Valist" <valist>; "jyotish remedies"

> > > > > > > <>; "Vedic Adtrology"

> > > > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > > > Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:59 PM

> > > > > > > Retrograde planet in lagna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > hello learned members,,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i wish to ask for opinion of the members,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > that if a planet is retrograde and placed in lagna...then it

> > > > > > gives a

> > > > > > > mentality or thinking in retro direction means like ketu or rahu

> > > > > > are always

> > > > > > > retro..(as what i know)...

> > > > > > > > the same way...retro means backward...like we move a car in

> > > > > > backward

> > > > > > > direction and we see backward so that we dont hit any thing

> behind

> > > > > > > > the same way a planet sees behind and its special drishti see

> > > > > > behind

> > > > > > > too..like saturn has 3rd and 10th aspect...and in retro it will

> > > > > > count

> > > > > > > backwards...means if it is placed in 12th house than its retro

> > > > > > drishti will

> > > > > > > be on planet placed in 10th house and so on....got it

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > and even if a nice planet like jupiter (big malefic for virgo

> > > > > > even lord of

> > > > > > > 4and 7th ...and yog karak for libra even lord of 3rd and 6th..)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > is in lagna and retro then the person will think like a

> > > > > > retro ...as rahu

> > > > > > > or ketu in lagna says the person will be crazy...means he

> dontknow

> > > > > > right and

> > > > > > > wrong ...if he is told something to do ...he can do it

> ...without

> > > > > > thinking

> > > > > > > it right or wrong...

> > > > > > > > the same way the retro jupiter will effect ...the same

> way...being

> > > > > > > spiritual but it will behave like ...ego......and thinks ...he

> is

> > > > > > right but

> > > > > > > he is wrong.....

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > at last i want to say that the retro jupiter in lagna will say

> > > > > > that the

> > > > > > > person will do sinful deeds or say negative things but he will

> > > > > > think he is

> > > > > > > right...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > kindly tell me how much i have understood the topic.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > tarun.....

> > > > > > > >

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