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Mr.Tarun

You have to first to know thw astronomical phenomena about regtrogation.

Rahu and ketu are being shadows ( no physical existence) - They are in fact

points of intersection of other planets - when other planets are moving forward

they look like moving backward.

Regarding the retrogration of other planets -

Make sure that at any given time any planet travel in its own orbit in a forward

motion with its regular speed, - Retrogration is an apparent phenomena -

recollect the experiment of putting a rod in a glass with some water - below the

level of water the road appears to have taken a bend - but in reality there is

no bend - this is an apparent phenomena -

refer to the Keplars astronomical theory - planets orbit is in an oval shape

around Sun- In an oval shape orbit at certain points when the object is moving

the diataance from the central p oint - Sun - is more than other points. In ovel

shape the distance from central point to other points differ. So whenever a

planet is far off from the Sun 0 central poistion - it looks like retarded with

refence to the Earth. So planets which are subject to retrogration (except

luminaries) do apper like retarded at specific dostances and come back to direct

motion on specific points ever time.

Here you can observe the distance from sun is more than that of normal times

when the planet is in retrogation - So a retrograde planet get less exposed to

Sun heat - so less combust - so it is more stronger than in normal times - So in

Hindu astrology it is said a retrograde planet is more stronger - this is only

as far as the stregnth is considered - (malefic / benefic nature is different to

strength - malefic getting more strength - or benefic getting more strength is

an individual case study)

As regards the strength of a retrograde planet - in Shadbalas - motional

strength is attributed -

In explaining the retrograde postion is is expressed as going back and getting

direct motion - In between there is a stagnation period also - the results

mostly differ in transit results.

 

As far as drishti (aspect) is considered - some are of the openion that they

give the results of different houses - But it is not always correct - In querry

mode - the interpretations are when a key planet is retrograde it gives the

result when it takes direct motion - Mostly it applies to the strength and

timing of event - but basically the signification of planet do not change - the

lordship of bhava do not change -

Let us see in different systems - Hindu traditional astrology a span of 30

degrees of rasi is taken and in diviional charts also a span is taken - so

retrograde planets motional strength ( as per shadbalal) is taken and in transit

- retrograde / direct / stanation timing are taken into account -

in K.P.System ( developed from Hindu tradional system ) a planets psoition is

taken as per its longitude - So no spna of any area is considered - planets sub

ord, star lord and sign lord are considered for its strength and other

significations - so the question of retrograde motion is ignored.

Much can be said like this when ever individual charts are dalt with.

If retrograde planet in ;agna - judge as per its connection to lagna sign. its

lord , other aspects etc., by ensuring that the retrograde planet has more

strength.

Make sure that no planet travel backward like a car - if so all of us go back to

our child hood-

Sambasiva Rao

M.A.,(astrology) MBA., LL.B., CAIIB.,

Hyderabad India tel +91-040-24046221 :: 9246586624

 

 

~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst wrote:

hello learned members,,

 

i wish to ask for opinion of the members,

 

that if a planet is retrograde and placed in lagna...then it gives a mentality

or thinking in retro direction means like ketu or rahu are always retro..(as

what i know)...

the same way...retro means backward...like we move a car in backward direction

and we see backward so that we dont hit any thing behind

the same way a planet sees behind and its special drishti see behind too..like

saturn has 3rd and 10th aspect...and in retro it will count backwards...means if

it is placed in 12th house than its retro drishti will be on planet placed in

10th house and so on....got it

 

and even if a nice planet like jupiter (big malefic for virgo even lord of 4and

7th ...and yog karak for libra even lord of 3rd and 6th..)

 

is in lagna and retro then the person will think like a retro ...as rahu or ketu

in lagna says the person will be crazy...means he dontknow right and wrong ...if

he is told something to do ...he can do it ...without thinking it right or

wrong...

the same way the retro jupiter will effect ...the same way...being spiritual but

it will behave like ...ego......and thinks ...he is right but he is wrong.....

 

at last i want to say that the retro jupiter in lagna will say that the person

will do sinful deeds or say negative things but he will think he is right...

 

kindly tell me how much i have understood the topic.

 

thanks

 

tarun.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello

I have a question: how to interpret when a planet direct at birth goes

retrograde by progression?

Nadia

 

 

 

 

 

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Mr.Tarun

You have to first to know thw astronomical phenomena about regtrogation.

Rahu and ketu are being shadows ( no physical existence) - They are in fact

points of intersection of other planets - when other planets are moving

forward they look like moving backward.

Regarding the retrogration of other planets -

Make sure that at any given time any planet travel in its own orbit in a

forward motion with its regular speed, - Retrogration is an apparent

phenomena - recollect the experiment of putting a rod in a glass with some

water - below the level of water the road appears to have taken a bend - but

in reality there is no bend - this is an apparent phenomena -

refer to the Keplars astronomical theory - planets orbit is in an oval shape

around Sun- In an oval shape orbit at certain points when the object is

moving the diataance from the central p oint - Sun - is more than other

points. In ovel shape the distance from central point to other points differ

So whenever a planet is far off from the Sun 0 central poistion - it looks

like retarded with refence to the Earth. So planets which are subject to

retrogration (except luminaries) do apper like retarded at specific

dostances and come back to direct motion on specific points ever time.

Here you can observe the distance from sun is more than that of normal times

when the planet is in retrogation - So a retrograde planet get less exposed

to Sun heat - so less combust - so it is more stronger than in normal times

- So in Hindu astrology it is said a retrograde planet is more stronger -

this is only as far as the stregnth is considered - (malefic / benefic

nature is different to strength - malefic getting more strength - or benefic

getting more strength is an individual case study)

As regards the strength of a retrograde planet - in Shadbalas - motional

strength is attributed -

In explaining the retrograde postion is is expressed as going back and

getting direct motion - In between there is a stagnation period also - the

results mostly differ in transit results

Sambasiva Rao

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Dear Gurudatta sir,

 

namaskar,

 

sir this is partiality of jyotish that jupiter is considered malefic

for virgo even lord of kendra and yog karak for libra even lord of

3rd and 6th.

 

sir it is true that since it doesnt lords over trikona so it is

considered malefic but this is really worst portion of astrology i

think so..

 

thanks and regards,

 

tarun..

 

 

---

 

 

In valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash" <gurudatta_d@h...>

wrote:

> Dear sri Tarun

>

>

>

> Kindly accept my Namaskar also.

>

>

>

> For the reason lord of 3rd or 6th is considered evil , precisely

for the

> same reason , for Libra Lagna Jupiter is considered to be giving

yoga .

>

> that is RUSIVAAKYA- as per the dictum of the authorities.

>

>

>

>

>

> Now I qote the exact verse from BHAVARTA RATNAKAR of SRI

RAMAANUYACHAARYA.

>

TULALAGNE TU JAATASYA SANIRYOGADOBHABET.

>

> TRUTIYAA SASTHASTHAANOPI GURURYOGAPRADO BHABET.

>

The meaning is very simple, but for those who do not know Sanskrit,

> translated it reads

>

>

>

> For Libra ascendant Sani causes yoga. THOUGH lord of 3rd and 6th

Jupiter

> also becomes capable of producing yoga. Mark the word 'THOUGH'..

Means he

> says that even if it is lord of evil houses, it would cause yoga.

>

>

>

> Commenting on this verse , Dr, BV Raman says , that Sani is

yogakaarak for

> Libra , is quite understandable *****Jupiter is the lord of 3rd and

6th and

> this particular case he is supposed to cause yoga for simple reason

that 3rd

> and 6th from Libra happens to be Upachaya signs and hence

beneficial. But

> this combination is quite against the ordinary rules of astrology

which

> suggest that lord of 3rd,6th and 11th are always bad.

>

>

>

>

>

> Now there are many exceptional rules in astrology.

>

>

>

> Consider this verse from UTTARA KALAAMRITA of KAALIDASA.

>

DEBAADHEESH PUROHITASYA SAHAJANTYAADHEESHATA SANTATAM

>

>

>

> RANDHRAADHEESHWARATAASTAMASTHIRAPY SYAADDYGA KRUDDEHINAAM

>

>

>

> SASTHASTAHA SUBHAKRUT KABIHI SMARAGRAHAGHNYAMAANA STHITO

>

> RAAHURYOGA KARA STRUTEEYA NEELAYE KETUSTU YOGAPRADAH.

>

>

>

> Meaning:

>

> if Jupiter happens to be the lord of 3rd and 12th he may cause yoga.

>

> If he is the lord of 8th or is in the 8th house he may cause yoga.

>

> Also Venus in 6th,and Rahu in 7th ,4th,9th,10th and Ketu in 3rd are

highly

> Yogaprada .

>

>

>

> Perhaps there lies the supremacy and beauty of this divine science

called

> VEDIC ASROLOGY . which is perhaps more accurate than any science

for it is

> based not on human erring sensations but on the divine intuitions

of Great

> Rushis.

>

>

>

> Gurudatta Dash

>

>

>

>

>

> -

> "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> <valist>

> Wednesday, May 25, 2005 4:54 PM

> Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some obseravations on

> retrograde plants

>

>

> > Namaskar Gurudatta sahab,

> >

> > If the guru is in lagna for a libra ascendant.then it is lord of

3rd

> > and 6th house. and even then it is said a yoga karak for librans..

> >

> > kindly suggest me abt that ..

> >

> > thanks ...

> > tarun..

> >

> >

> > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > Dear sri Tarun

> > >

> > > Be absolutely sure that Jupiter in Lagna even when retrograde

is an

> > asset

> > > and saves the native from many negatives , this is supported by

> > ancient

> > > authorities and confirmed by our experience. However the effect

may

> > be

> > > modified due its lordship and raasi in which the Lagna is .

> > sometimes it may

> > > become week to do good or stronger than direct.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > For example if Lagna is cancer and the Jupiter is placed and if

the

> > lagan is

> > > Capricorn with Jupiter the result would never be same.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > RETROGRESSION being an additional bala , only modifies the

effects

> > but can

> > > not change the nature of the planet.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Suppose a person is good & helping and he has 10 rupees with

him,

> > he could

> > > help people with only 10 rupees , but if he has 100 rupees his

> > power of

> > > doing good would surely increase.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Now suppose a person is destructive and he has 10 rupees, he

would

> > not help

> > > any body for his nature is bad, instead he would utilize this

> > amount for

> > > negative purposes. Now if he has 100 rupees his power of evil

> > would only

> > > increase.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > so is the case with retrograde benefices and malefices.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Gurudatta Dash

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > > <valist>

> > > Saturday, May 21, 2005 8:05 PM

> > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some obseravations

on

> > > retrograde plants

> > >

> > >

> > > > HEllo Gurudatta ji,

> > > >

> > > > I read ur mail..and found a different opinion from the rest of

> > > > astrologers,because many said that retro planets are maelefic

even

> > > > jupiter or venus or some else.

> > > >

> > > > Like it is said if jupiter is in lagna and retro it creates

> > problem

> > > > to native in every field..

> > > >

> > > > but u have a very strong point abt chesta bala..

> > > >

> > > > thanks

> > > >

> > > > tarun...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > > > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > > > It is not that retrograde planets are always bad.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Infact retrograde planets are supposed to be powerful and

there

> > > > BALA is

> > > > > known as CHESTA BALA . And when calculating the AYURDAAYA

i. e .

> > > > longevity

> > > > > the points are doubled when the planet is in retrogression.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > But how the retrograde planets give results practically is a

> > matter

> > > > of

> > > > > controversy. Even certain Raajayogas are based on the

> > retrogression

> > > > of the

> > > > > planet as the pivotal point.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > It is held that such planets give the opposite result as is

> > expected

> > > > > noramally because of its placement. i.e. such a planet in

> > > > debilitation gives

> > > > > the result as if exalted and when in exaltation or in own

> > house in

> > > > > retrogression ,- - quite ordinary result.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Some authorities say that benefices when retro become very

> > > > auspicious and

> > > > > malefic very malefic.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Also certain planets are ascribed specifics results when

they

> > are

> > > > retrograde

> > > > > e.g. Jupiter when retrograde--- the person becomes

successful

> > where

> > > > other

> > > > > peoples fail and losses good opportunities.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Venus is said to be give highly auspicious result in its

dasa

> > and

> > > > bhukty

> > > > > when retrograde.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > However as a general rule mars and Saturn when retrograde

are

> > > > considered to

> > > > > be highly destructive and malefics.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > In my horoscope Jupiter is retrograde and it gave quite

> > auspicious

> > > > result

> > > > > even though it is in libra - enemy sign. Of course it is my

9 th

> > > > lord and is

> > > > > placed in 4th aspected by yogakaarak mars and in exchange

with

> > an

> > > > exalted

> > > > > Venus. Still I consider Jupiter in this particular case gave

> > good

> > > > result

> > > > > partly due to its retrogression

> > > > > -

> > > > > "~~Tarun~~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > > "Valist" <valist>; "jyotish remedies"

> > > > > <>; "Vedic Adtrology"

> > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:59 PM

> > > > > Retrograde planet in lagna

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > hello learned members,,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i wish to ask for opinion of the members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > that if a planet is retrograde and placed in lagna...then

it

> > > > gives a

> > > > > mentality or thinking in retro direction means like ketu or

rahu

> > > > are always

> > > > > retro..(as what i know)...

> > > > > > the same way...retro means backward...like we move a car

in

> > > > backward

> > > > > direction and we see backward so that we dont hit any thing

> > behind

> > > > > > the same way a planet sees behind and its special drishti

see

> > > > behind

> > > > > too..like saturn has 3rd and 10th aspect...and in retro it

will

> > > > count

> > > > > backwards...means if it is placed in 12th house than its

retro

> > > > drishti will

> > > > > be on planet placed in 10th house and so on....got it

> > > > > >

> > > > > > and even if a nice planet like jupiter (big malefic for

virgo

> > > > even lord of

> > > > > 4and 7th ...and yog karak for libra even lord of 3rd and

6th..)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > is in lagna and retro then the person will think like a

> > > > retro ...as rahu

> > > > > or ketu in lagna says the person will be crazy...means he

> > dontknow

> > > > right and

> > > > > wrong ...if he is told something to do ...he can do

> > it ...without

> > > > thinking

> > > > > it right or wrong...

> > > > > > the same way the retro jupiter will effect ...the same

> > way...being

> > > > > spiritual but it will behave like ...ego......and

thinks ...he

> > is

> > > > right but

> > > > > he is wrong.....

> > > > > >

> > > > > > at last i want to say that the retro jupiter in lagna

will say

> > > > that the

> > > > > person will do sinful deeds or say negative things but he

will

> > > > think he is

> > > > > right...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > kindly tell me how much i have understood the topic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tarun.....

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Dear sri Tarun

 

 

 

when a natural benefic owns a Kendra he losses his power to do good. it is

called KENDRAADHIPA DOSA. It is considered so evil that if this planet is

afflicted otherwise then it can kill the native.

 

 

 

when a natural malefic own a Kendra he ceased to be malefic.

 

 

 

these are ordinary rules of Parashary system of astrology.

 

 

 

Kindly study Jaatak Chandrikaa , for the effects a planet may give during

its period.

 

this book is otherwise known as Laghu Paraashari Or Uddudaaya pradeep. it is

small book, but many of its verses are heard to crack and have been greatly

debated by great scholars. any one without mastering Jaatak chandrikaa can

never dreamt of becoming an astrologer.

 

 

 

one surely can not become a good astrologer merely by browising the net

where most transltions of the classics are full of errors.

 

 

 

hard work and mastering the classics, guru krupaa and matra siddhi are 3

essential points of becoming a REAL ( as opposed to the false ones who

claims themselves as astrologer but do not know ABC of astrology) jyotish.

 

 

 

hoping that you would one day reach your desire goal.

 

 

 

Gurudatta Dash

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

"~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst

<valist>

Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:43 AM

Re: Retrograde planet in lagna

 

 

>

> Dear Gurudatta sir,

>

> namaskar,

>

> sir this is partiality of jyotish that jupiter is considered malefic

> for virgo even lord of kendra and yog karak for libra even lord of

> 3rd and 6th.

>

> sir it is true that since it doesnt lords over trikona so it is

> considered malefic but this is really worst portion of astrology i

> think so..

>

> thanks and regards,

>

> tarun..

>

>

> ---

>

>

> In valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash" <gurudatta_d@h...>

> wrote:

> > Dear sri Tarun

> >

> >

> >

> > Kindly accept my Namaskar also.

> >

> >

> >

> > For the reason lord of 3rd or 6th is considered evil , precisely

> for the

> > same reason , for Libra Lagna Jupiter is considered to be giving

> yoga .

> >

> > that is RUSIVAAKYA- as per the dictum of the authorities.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Now I qote the exact verse from BHAVARTA RATNAKAR of SRI

> RAMAANUYACHAARYA.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > TULALAGNE TU JAATASYA SANIRYOGADOBHABET.

> >

> > TRUTIYAA SASTHASTHAANOPI GURURYOGAPRADO BHABET.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The meaning is very simple, but for those who do not know Sanskrit,

> > translated it reads

> >

> >

> >

> > For Libra ascendant Sani causes yoga. THOUGH lord of 3rd and 6th

> Jupiter

> > also becomes capable of producing yoga. Mark the word 'THOUGH'..

> Means he

> > says that even if it is lord of evil houses, it would cause yoga.

> >

> >

> >

> > Commenting on this verse , Dr, BV Raman says , that Sani is

> yogakaarak for

> > Libra , is quite understandable *****Jupiter is the lord of 3rd and

> 6th and

> > this particular case he is supposed to cause yoga for simple reason

> that 3rd

> > and 6th from Libra happens to be Upachaya signs and hence

> beneficial. But

> > this combination is quite against the ordinary rules of astrology

> which

> > suggest that lord of 3rd,6th and 11th are always bad.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Now there are many exceptional rules in astrology.

> >

> >

> >

> > Consider this verse from UTTARA KALAAMRITA of KAALIDASA.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > DEBAADHEESH PUROHITASYA SAHAJANTYAADHEESHATA SANTATAM

> >

> >

> >

> > RANDHRAADHEESHWARATAASTAMASTHIRAPY SYAADDYGA KRUDDEHINAAM

> >

> >

> >

> > SASTHASTAHA SUBHAKRUT KABIHI SMARAGRAHAGHNYAMAANA STHITO

> >

> > RAAHURYOGA KARA STRUTEEYA NEELAYE KETUSTU YOGAPRADAH.

> >

> >

> >

> > Meaning:

> >

> > if Jupiter happens to be the lord of 3rd and 12th he may cause yoga.

> >

> > If he is the lord of 8th or is in the 8th house he may cause yoga.

> >

> > Also Venus in 6th,and Rahu in 7th ,4th,9th,10th and Ketu in 3rd are

> highly

> > Yogaprada .

> >

> >

> >

> > Perhaps there lies the supremacy and beauty of this divine science

> called

> > VEDIC ASROLOGY . which is perhaps more accurate than any science

> for it is

> > based not on human erring sensations but on the divine intuitions

> of Great

> > Rushis.

> >

> >

> >

> > Gurudatta Dash

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > <valist>

> > Wednesday, May 25, 2005 4:54 PM

> > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some obseravations on

> > retrograde plants

> >

> >

> > > Namaskar Gurudatta sahab,

> > >

> > > If the guru is in lagna for a libra ascendant.then it is lord of

> 3rd

> > > and 6th house. and even then it is said a yoga karak for librans..

> > >

> > > kindly suggest me abt that ..

> > >

> > > thanks ...

> > > tarun..

> > >

> > >

> > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > > Dear sri Tarun

> > > >

> > > > Be absolutely sure that Jupiter in Lagna even when retrograde

> is an

> > > asset

> > > > and saves the native from many negatives , this is supported by

> > > ancient

> > > > authorities and confirmed by our experience. However the effect

> may

> > > be

> > > > modified due its lordship and raasi in which the Lagna is .

> > > sometimes it may

> > > > become week to do good or stronger than direct.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > For example if Lagna is cancer and the Jupiter is placed and if

> the

> > > lagan is

> > > > Capricorn with Jupiter the result would never be same.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > RETROGRESSION being an additional bala , only modifies the

> effects

> > > but can

> > > > not change the nature of the planet.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Suppose a person is good & helping and he has 10 rupees with

> him,

> > > he could

> > > > help people with only 10 rupees , but if he has 100 rupees his

> > > power of

> > > > doing good would surely increase.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Now suppose a person is destructive and he has 10 rupees, he

> would

> > > not help

> > > > any body for his nature is bad, instead he would utilize this

> > > amount for

> > > > negative purposes. Now if he has 100 rupees his power of evil

> > > would only

> > > > increase.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > so is the case with retrograde benefices and malefices.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Gurudatta Dash

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > <valist>

> > > > Saturday, May 21, 2005 8:05 PM

> > > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some obseravations

> on

> > > > retrograde plants

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > HEllo Gurudatta ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I read ur mail..and found a different opinion from the rest of

> > > > > astrologers,because many said that retro planets are maelefic

> even

> > > > > jupiter or venus or some else.

> > > > >

> > > > > Like it is said if jupiter is in lagna and retro it creates

> > > problem

> > > > > to native in every field..

> > > > >

> > > > > but u have a very strong point abt chesta bala..

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks

> > > > >

> > > > > tarun...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > > > > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > It is not that retrograde planets are always bad.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Infact retrograde planets are supposed to be powerful and

> there

> > > > > BALA is

> > > > > > known as CHESTA BALA . And when calculating the AYURDAAYA

> i. e .

> > > > > longevity

> > > > > > the points are doubled when the planet is in retrogression.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But how the retrograde planets give results practically is a

> > > matter

> > > > > of

> > > > > > controversy. Even certain Raajayogas are based on the

> > > retrogression

> > > > > of the

> > > > > > planet as the pivotal point.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is held that such planets give the opposite result as is

> > > expected

> > > > > > noramally because of its placement. i.e. such a planet in

> > > > > debilitation gives

> > > > > > the result as if exalted and when in exaltation or in own

> > > house in

> > > > > > retrogression ,- - quite ordinary result.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Some authorities say that benefices when retro become very

> > > > > auspicious and

> > > > > > malefic very malefic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also certain planets are ascribed specifics results when

> they

> > > are

> > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > e.g. Jupiter when retrograde--- the person becomes

> successful

> > > where

> > > > > other

> > > > > > peoples fail and losses good opportunities.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Venus is said to be give highly auspicious result in its

> dasa

> > > and

> > > > > bhukty

> > > > > > when retrograde.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > However as a general rule mars and Saturn when retrograde

> are

> > > > > considered to

> > > > > > be highly destructive and malefics.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In my horoscope Jupiter is retrograde and it gave quite

> > > auspicious

> > > > > result

> > > > > > even though it is in libra - enemy sign. Of course it is my

> 9 th

> > > > > lord and is

> > > > > > placed in 4th aspected by yogakaarak mars and in exchange

> with

> > > an

> > > > > exalted

> > > > > > Venus. Still I consider Jupiter in this particular case gave

> > > good

> > > > > result

> > > > > > partly due to its retrogression

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > "~~Tarun~~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > > > "Valist" <valist>; "jyotish remedies"

> > > > > > <>; "Vedic Adtrology"

> > > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > > Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:59 PM

> > > > > > Retrograde planet in lagna

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > hello learned members,,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i wish to ask for opinion of the members,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > that if a planet is retrograde and placed in lagna...then

> it

> > > > > gives a

> > > > > > mentality or thinking in retro direction means like ketu or

> rahu

> > > > > are always

> > > > > > retro..(as what i know)...

> > > > > > > the same way...retro means backward...like we move a car

> in

> > > > > backward

> > > > > > direction and we see backward so that we dont hit any thing

> > > behind

> > > > > > > the same way a planet sees behind and its special drishti

> see

> > > > > behind

> > > > > > too..like saturn has 3rd and 10th aspect...and in retro it

> will

> > > > > count

> > > > > > backwards...means if it is placed in 12th house than its

> retro

> > > > > drishti will

> > > > > > be on planet placed in 10th house and so on....got it

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > and even if a nice planet like jupiter (big malefic for

> virgo

> > > > > even lord of

> > > > > > 4and 7th ...and yog karak for libra even lord of 3rd and

> 6th..)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > is in lagna and retro then the person will think like a

> > > > > retro ...as rahu

> > > > > > or ketu in lagna says the person will be crazy...means he

> > > dontknow

> > > > > right and

> > > > > > wrong ...if he is told something to do ...he can do

> > > it ...without

> > > > > thinking

> > > > > > it right or wrong...

> > > > > > > the same way the retro jupiter will effect ...the same

> > > way...being

> > > > > > spiritual but it will behave like ...ego......and

> thinks ...he

> > > is

> > > > > right but

> > > > > > he is wrong.....

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > at last i want to say that the retro jupiter in lagna

> will say

> > > > > that the

> > > > > > person will do sinful deeds or say negative things but he

> will

> > > > > think he is

> > > > > > right...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > kindly tell me how much i have understood the topic.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > tarun.....

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hello sir

 

i m absolutely agree what you have said about how one can become a

good astrologer.

"hard work and mastering the classics, guru krupaa and matra siddhi

are

3

essential points of becoming a REAL ( as opposed to the false ones who

claims themselves as astrologer but do not know ABC of astrology)

jyotish."

 

sir can we find out that when one can have guru kripa?

 

which yogas and dashas in horoscopes tell us about this?

 

Is transit also have any role in it.?

 

Well sir my english is not good

but i hope u understood what i want to ask and also hope that u will

answer it.

 

 

with regards

sonia

 

 

 

valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash" <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> Dear sri Tarun

>

>

>

> when a natural benefic owns a Kendra he losses his power to do

good. it is

> called KENDRAADHIPA DOSA. It is considered so evil that if this

planet is

> afflicted otherwise then it can kill the native.

>

>

>

> when a natural malefic own a Kendra he ceased to be malefic.

>

>

>

> these are ordinary rules of Parashary system of astrology.

>

>

>

> Kindly study Jaatak Chandrikaa , for the effects a planet may give

during

> its period.

>

> this book is otherwise known as Laghu Paraashari Or Uddudaaya

pradeep. it is

> small book, but many of its verses are heard to crack and have been

greatly

> debated by great scholars. any one without mastering Jaatak

chandrikaa can

> never dreamt of becoming an astrologer.

>

>

>

> one surely can not become a good astrologer merely by browising

the net

> where most transltions of the classics are full of errors.

>

>

>

> hard work and mastering the classics, guru krupaa and matra siddhi

are 3

> essential points of becoming a REAL ( as opposed to the false ones

who

> claims themselves as astrologer but do not know ABC of astrology)

jyotish.

>

>

>

> hoping that you would one day reach your desire goal.

>

>

>

> Gurudatta Dash

>

-

> "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> <valist>

> Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:43 AM

> Re: Retrograde planet in lagna

>

>

> >

> > Dear Gurudatta sir,

> >

> > namaskar,

> >

> > sir this is partiality of jyotish that jupiter is considered

malefic

> > for virgo even lord of kendra and yog karak for libra even lord of

> > 3rd and 6th.

> >

> > sir it is true that since it doesnt lords over trikona so it is

> > considered malefic but this is really worst portion of astrology i

> > think so..

> >

> > thanks and regards,

> >

> > tarun..

> >

> >

> > ---

> >

> >

> > In valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash" <gurudatta_d@h...>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear sri Tarun

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Kindly accept my Namaskar also.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > For the reason lord of 3rd or 6th is considered evil ,

precisely

> > for the

> > > same reason , for Libra Lagna Jupiter is considered to be

giving

> > yoga .

> > >

> > > that is RUSIVAAKYA- as per the dictum of the authorities.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Now I qote the exact verse from BHAVARTA RATNAKAR of SRI

> > RAMAANUYACHAARYA.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > TULALAGNE TU JAATASYA SANIRYOGADOBHABET.

> > >

> > > TRUTIYAA SASTHASTHAANOPI GURURYOGAPRADO BHABET.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The meaning is very simple, but for those who do not know

Sanskrit,

> > > translated it reads

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > For Libra ascendant Sani causes yoga. THOUGH lord of 3rd and

6th

> > Jupiter

> > > also becomes capable of producing yoga. Mark the

word 'THOUGH'..

> > Means he

> > > says that even if it is lord of evil houses, it would cause

yoga.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Commenting on this verse , Dr, BV Raman says , that Sani is

> > yogakaarak for

> > > Libra , is quite understandable *****Jupiter is the lord of 3rd

and

> > 6th and

> > > this particular case he is supposed to cause yoga for simple

reason

> > that 3rd

> > > and 6th from Libra happens to be Upachaya signs and hence

> > beneficial. But

> > > this combination is quite against the ordinary rules of

astrology

> > which

> > > suggest that lord of 3rd,6th and 11th are always bad.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Now there are many exceptional rules in astrology.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Consider this verse from UTTARA KALAAMRITA of KAALIDASA.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > DEBAADHEESH PUROHITASYA SAHAJANTYAADHEESHATA SANTATAM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > RANDHRAADHEESHWARATAASTAMASTHIRAPY SYAADDYGA KRUDDEHINAAM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > SASTHASTAHA SUBHAKRUT KABIHI SMARAGRAHAGHNYAMAANA STHITO

> > >

> > > RAAHURYOGA KARA STRUTEEYA NEELAYE KETUSTU YOGAPRADAH.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Meaning:

> > >

> > > if Jupiter happens to be the lord of 3rd and 12th he may cause

yoga.

> > >

> > > If he is the lord of 8th or is in the 8th house he may cause

yoga.

> > >

> > > Also Venus in 6th,and Rahu in 7th ,4th,9th,10th and Ketu in 3rd

are

> > highly

> > > Yogaprada .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Perhaps there lies the supremacy and beauty of this divine

science

> > called

> > > VEDIC ASROLOGY . which is perhaps more accurate than any science

> > for it is

> > > based not on human erring sensations but on the divine

intuitions

> > of Great

> > > Rushis.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Gurudatta Dash

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > > <valist>

> > > Wednesday, May 25, 2005 4:54 PM

> > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some obseravations

on

> > > retrograde plants

> > >

> > >

> > > > Namaskar Gurudatta sahab,

> > > >

> > > > If the guru is in lagna for a libra ascendant.then it is lord

of

> > 3rd

> > > > and 6th house. and even then it is said a yoga karak for

librans..

> > > >

> > > > kindly suggest me abt that ..

> > > >

> > > > thanks ...

> > > > tarun..

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > > > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > > > Dear sri Tarun

> > > > >

> > > > > Be absolutely sure that Jupiter in Lagna even when

retrograde

> > is an

> > > > asset

> > > > > and saves the native from many negatives , this is

supported by

> > > > ancient

> > > > > authorities and confirmed by our experience. However the

effect

> > may

> > > > be

> > > > > modified due its lordship and raasi in which the Lagna is .

> > > > sometimes it may

> > > > > become week to do good or stronger than direct.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > For example if Lagna is cancer and the Jupiter is placed

and if

> > the

> > > > lagan is

> > > > > Capricorn with Jupiter the result would never be same.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > RETROGRESSION being an additional bala , only modifies the

> > effects

> > > > but can

> > > > > not change the nature of the planet.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Suppose a person is good & helping and he has 10 rupees with

> > him,

> > > > he could

> > > > > help people with only 10 rupees , but if he has 100 rupees

his

> > > > power of

> > > > > doing good would surely increase.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Now suppose a person is destructive and he has 10 rupees, he

> > would

> > > > not help

> > > > > any body for his nature is bad, instead he would utilize

this

> > > > amount for

> > > > > negative purposes. Now if he has 100 rupees his power of

evil

> > > > would only

> > > > > increase.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > so is the case with retrograde benefices and malefices.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Gurudatta Dash

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > > <valist>

> > > > > Saturday, May 21, 2005 8:05 PM

> > > > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some

obseravations

> > on

> > > > > retrograde plants

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > HEllo Gurudatta ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I read ur mail..and found a different opinion from the

rest of

> > > > > > astrologers,because many said that retro planets are

maelefic

> > even

> > > > > > jupiter or venus or some else.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Like it is said if jupiter is in lagna and retro it

creates

> > > > problem

> > > > > > to native in every field..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > but u have a very strong point abt chesta bala..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tarun...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > > > > > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > > It is not that retrograde planets are always bad.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Infact retrograde planets are supposed to be powerful

and

> > there

> > > > > > BALA is

> > > > > > > known as CHESTA BALA . And when calculating the

AYURDAAYA

> > i. e .

> > > > > > longevity

> > > > > > > the points are doubled when the planet is in

retrogression.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But how the retrograde planets give results practically

is a

> > > > matter

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > controversy. Even certain Raajayogas are based on the

> > > > retrogression

> > > > > > of the

> > > > > > > planet as the pivotal point.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is held that such planets give the opposite result

as is

> > > > expected

> > > > > > > noramally because of its placement. i.e. such a planet

in

> > > > > > debilitation gives

> > > > > > > the result as if exalted and when in exaltation or in

own

> > > > house in

> > > > > > > retrogression ,- - quite ordinary result.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Some authorities say that benefices when retro become

very

> > > > > > auspicious and

> > > > > > > malefic very malefic.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also certain planets are ascribed specifics results when

> > they

> > > > are

> > > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > e.g. Jupiter when retrograde--- the person becomes

> > successful

> > > > where

> > > > > > other

> > > > > > > peoples fail and losses good opportunities.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Venus is said to be give highly auspicious result in its

> > dasa

> > > > and

> > > > > > bhukty

> > > > > > > when retrograde.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > However as a general rule mars and Saturn when

retrograde

> > are

> > > > > > considered to

> > > > > > > be highly destructive and malefics.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In my horoscope Jupiter is retrograde and it gave quite

> > > > auspicious

> > > > > > result

> > > > > > > even though it is in libra - enemy sign. Of course it

is my

> > 9 th

> > > > > > lord and is

> > > > > > > placed in 4th aspected by yogakaarak mars and in

exchange

> > with

> > > > an

> > > > > > exalted

> > > > > > > Venus. Still I consider Jupiter in this particular case

gave

> > > > good

> > > > > > result

> > > > > > > partly due to its retrogression

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > "~~Tarun~~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > > > > "Valist" <valist>; "jyotish

remedies"

> > > > > > > <>; "Vedic Adtrology"

> > > > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > > > Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:59 PM

> > > > > > > Retrograde planet in lagna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > hello learned members,,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i wish to ask for opinion of the members,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > that if a planet is retrograde and placed in

lagna...then

> > it

> > > > > > gives a

> > > > > > > mentality or thinking in retro direction means like

ketu or

> > rahu

> > > > > > are always

> > > > > > > retro..(as what i know)...

> > > > > > > > the same way...retro means backward...like we move a

car

> > in

> > > > > > backward

> > > > > > > direction and we see backward so that we dont hit any

thing

> > > > behind

> > > > > > > > the same way a planet sees behind and its special

drishti

> > see

> > > > > > behind

> > > > > > > too..like saturn has 3rd and 10th aspect...and in retro

it

> > will

> > > > > > count

> > > > > > > backwards...means if it is placed in 12th house than its

> > retro

> > > > > > drishti will

> > > > > > > be on planet placed in 10th house and so on....got it

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > and even if a nice planet like jupiter (big malefic

for

> > virgo

> > > > > > even lord of

> > > > > > > 4and 7th ...and yog karak for libra even lord of 3rd and

> > 6th..)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > is in lagna and retro then the person will think like

a

> > > > > > retro ...as rahu

> > > > > > > or ketu in lagna says the person will be crazy...means

he

> > > > dontknow

> > > > > > right and

> > > > > > > wrong ...if he is told something to do ...he can do

> > > > it ...without

> > > > > > thinking

> > > > > > > it right or wrong...

> > > > > > > > the same way the retro jupiter will effect ...the same

> > > > way...being

> > > > > > > spiritual but it will behave like ...ego......and

> > thinks ...he

> > > > is

> > > > > > right but

> > > > > > > he is wrong.....

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > at last i want to say that the retro jupiter in lagna

> > will say

> > > > > > that the

> > > > > > > person will do sinful deeds or say negative things but

he

> > will

> > > > > > think he is

> > > > > > > right...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > kindly tell me how much i have understood the topic.

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Dear Gurudatta sir,

 

Namaskar,

 

Sir as u said that the planets gets so malefic tht it can even kill

the person..so happened to me in my guru dasha as i m virgo rising.

Sir when i was one yr old i lost two fingures of my left hand..and

that time my guru dasha was runnning..since u described the malefic

extent..i suddenly thought abt this..was this the effect of guru

dasha.

The accident happened in our factory..and the same date of the death

of Indira Gandhi i.e. 30th oct.1984.

 

sir can u plz analyse that was this the effect of the guru dasha..and

i have one more question that what wil be the effect of lagnesh

dasha for me as a virgo rising.will it effect the same.

 

My dob:-19-07-1983

Time:- 10.35 am

Place:- Jodhpur RAjasthan ( 26N18 73E08)

 

Thanks and rgards.

 

Tarun Agarwal

 

 

valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

<gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> Dear sri Tarun

>

>

>

> when a natural benefic owns a Kendra he losses his power to do

good. it is

> called KENDRAADHIPA DOSA. It is considered so evil that if this

planet is

> afflicted otherwise then it can kill the native.

>

>

>

> when a natural malefic own a Kendra he ceased to be malefic.

>

>

>

> these are ordinary rules of Parashary system of astrology.

>

>

>

> Kindly study Jaatak Chandrikaa , for the effects a planet may give

during

> its period.

>

> this book is otherwise known as Laghu Paraashari Or Uddudaaya

pradeep. it is

> small book, but many of its verses are heard to crack and have been

greatly

> debated by great scholars. any one without mastering Jaatak

chandrikaa can

> never dreamt of becoming an astrologer.

>

>

>

> one surely can not become a good astrologer merely by browising

the net

> where most transltions of the classics are full of errors.

>

>

>

> hard work and mastering the classics, guru krupaa and matra siddhi

are 3

> essential points of becoming a REAL ( as opposed to the false ones

who

> claims themselves as astrologer but do not know ABC of astrology)

jyotish.

>

>

>

> hoping that you would one day reach your desire goal.

>

>

>

> Gurudatta Dash

>

-

> "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> <valist>

> Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:43 AM

> Re: Retrograde planet in lagna

>

>

> >

> > Dear Gurudatta sir,

> >

> > namaskar,

> >

> > sir this is partiality of jyotish that jupiter is considered

malefic

> > for virgo even lord of kendra and yog karak for libra even lord of

> > 3rd and 6th.

> >

> > sir it is true that since it doesnt lords over trikona so it is

> > considered malefic but this is really worst portion of astrology i

> > think so..

> >

> > thanks and regards,

> >

> > tarun..

> >

> >

> > ---

> >

> >

> > In valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash" <gurudatta_d@h...>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear sri Tarun

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Kindly accept my Namaskar also.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > For the reason lord of 3rd or 6th is considered evil ,

precisely

> > for the

> > > same reason , for Libra Lagna Jupiter is considered to be

giving

> > yoga .

> > >

> > > that is RUSIVAAKYA- as per the dictum of the authorities.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Now I qote the exact verse from BHAVARTA RATNAKAR of SRI

> > RAMAANUYACHAARYA.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > TULALAGNE TU JAATASYA SANIRYOGADOBHABET.

> > >

> > > TRUTIYAA SASTHASTHAANOPI GURURYOGAPRADO BHABET.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The meaning is very simple, but for those who do not know

Sanskrit,

> > > translated it reads

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > For Libra ascendant Sani causes yoga. THOUGH lord of 3rd and

6th

> > Jupiter

> > > also becomes capable of producing yoga. Mark the

word 'THOUGH'..

> > Means he

> > > says that even if it is lord of evil houses, it would cause

yoga.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Commenting on this verse , Dr, BV Raman says , that Sani is

> > yogakaarak for

> > > Libra , is quite understandable *****Jupiter is the lord of 3rd

and

> > 6th and

> > > this particular case he is supposed to cause yoga for simple

reason

> > that 3rd

> > > and 6th from Libra happens to be Upachaya signs and hence

> > beneficial. But

> > > this combination is quite against the ordinary rules of

astrology

> > which

> > > suggest that lord of 3rd,6th and 11th are always bad.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Now there are many exceptional rules in astrology.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Consider this verse from UTTARA KALAAMRITA of KAALIDASA.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > DEBAADHEESH PUROHITASYA SAHAJANTYAADHEESHATA SANTATAM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > RANDHRAADHEESHWARATAASTAMASTHIRAPY SYAADDYGA KRUDDEHINAAM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > SASTHASTAHA SUBHAKRUT KABIHI SMARAGRAHAGHNYAMAANA STHITO

> > >

> > > RAAHURYOGA KARA STRUTEEYA NEELAYE KETUSTU YOGAPRADAH.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Meaning:

> > >

> > > if Jupiter happens to be the lord of 3rd and 12th he may cause

yoga.

> > >

> > > If he is the lord of 8th or is in the 8th house he may cause

yoga.

> > >

> > > Also Venus in 6th,and Rahu in 7th ,4th,9th,10th and Ketu in 3rd

are

> > highly

> > > Yogaprada .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Perhaps there lies the supremacy and beauty of this divine

science

> > called

> > > VEDIC ASROLOGY . which is perhaps more accurate than any science

> > for it is

> > > based not on human erring sensations but on the divine

intuitions

> > of Great

> > > Rushis.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Gurudatta Dash

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > > <valist>

> > > Wednesday, May 25, 2005 4:54 PM

> > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some obseravations

on

> > > retrograde plants

> > >

> > >

> > > > Namaskar Gurudatta sahab,

> > > >

> > > > If the guru is in lagna for a libra ascendant.then it is lord

of

> > 3rd

> > > > and 6th house. and even then it is said a yoga karak for

librans..

> > > >

> > > > kindly suggest me abt that ..

> > > >

> > > > thanks ...

> > > > tarun..

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > > > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > > > Dear sri Tarun

> > > > >

> > > > > Be absolutely sure that Jupiter in Lagna even when

retrograde

> > is an

> > > > asset

> > > > > and saves the native from many negatives , this is

supported by

> > > > ancient

> > > > > authorities and confirmed by our experience. However the

effect

> > may

> > > > be

> > > > > modified due its lordship and raasi in which the Lagna is .

> > > > sometimes it may

> > > > > become week to do good or stronger than direct.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > For example if Lagna is cancer and the Jupiter is placed

and if

> > the

> > > > lagan is

> > > > > Capricorn with Jupiter the result would never be same.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > RETROGRESSION being an additional bala , only modifies the

> > effects

> > > > but can

> > > > > not change the nature of the planet.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Suppose a person is good & helping and he has 10 rupees with

> > him,

> > > > he could

> > > > > help people with only 10 rupees , but if he has 100 rupees

his

> > > > power of

> > > > > doing good would surely increase.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Now suppose a person is destructive and he has 10 rupees, he

> > would

> > > > not help

> > > > > any body for his nature is bad, instead he would utilize

this

> > > > amount for

> > > > > negative purposes. Now if he has 100 rupees his power of

evil

> > > > would only

> > > > > increase.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > so is the case with retrograde benefices and malefices.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Gurudatta Dash

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > > <valist>

> > > > > Saturday, May 21, 2005 8:05 PM

> > > > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some

obseravations

> > on

> > > > > retrograde plants

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > HEllo Gurudatta ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I read ur mail..and found a different opinion from the

rest of

> > > > > > astrologers,because many said that retro planets are

maelefic

> > even

> > > > > > jupiter or venus or some else.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Like it is said if jupiter is in lagna and retro it

creates

> > > > problem

> > > > > > to native in every field..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > but u have a very strong point abt chesta bala..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tarun...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > > > > > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > > It is not that retrograde planets are always bad.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Infact retrograde planets are supposed to be powerful

and

> > there

> > > > > > BALA is

> > > > > > > known as CHESTA BALA . And when calculating the

AYURDAAYA

> > i. e .

> > > > > > longevity

> > > > > > > the points are doubled when the planet is in

retrogression.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But how the retrograde planets give results practically

is a

> > > > matter

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > controversy. Even certain Raajayogas are based on the

> > > > retrogression

> > > > > > of the

> > > > > > > planet as the pivotal point.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is held that such planets give the opposite result

as is

> > > > expected

> > > > > > > noramally because of its placement. i.e. such a planet

in

> > > > > > debilitation gives

> > > > > > > the result as if exalted and when in exaltation or in

own

> > > > house in

> > > > > > > retrogression ,- - quite ordinary result.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Some authorities say that benefices when retro become

very

> > > > > > auspicious and

> > > > > > > malefic very malefic.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also certain planets are ascribed specifics results when

> > they

> > > > are

> > > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > e.g. Jupiter when retrograde--- the person becomes

> > successful

> > > > where

> > > > > > other

> > > > > > > peoples fail and losses good opportunities.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Venus is said to be give highly auspicious result in its

> > dasa

> > > > and

> > > > > > bhukty

> > > > > > > when retrograde.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > However as a general rule mars and Saturn when

retrograde

> > are

> > > > > > considered to

> > > > > > > be highly destructive and malefics.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In my horoscope Jupiter is retrograde and it gave quite

> > > > auspicious

> > > > > > result

> > > > > > > even though it is in libra - enemy sign. Of course it

is my

> > 9 th

> > > > > > lord and is

> > > > > > > placed in 4th aspected by yogakaarak mars and in

exchange

> > with

> > > > an

> > > > > > exalted

> > > > > > > Venus. Still I consider Jupiter in this particular case

gave

> > > > good

> > > > > > result

> > > > > > > partly due to its retrogression

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > "~~Tarun~~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > > > > "Valist" <valist>; "jyotish

remedies"

> > > > > > > <>; "Vedic Adtrology"

> > > > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > > > Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:59 PM

> > > > > > > Retrograde planet in lagna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > hello learned members,,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i wish to ask for opinion of the members,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > that if a planet is retrograde and placed in

lagna...then

> > it

> > > > > > gives a

> > > > > > > mentality or thinking in retro direction means like

ketu or

> > rahu

> > > > > > are always

> > > > > > > retro..(as what i know)...

> > > > > > > > the same way...retro means backward...like we move a

car

> > in

> > > > > > backward

> > > > > > > direction and we see backward so that we dont hit any

thing

> > > > behind

> > > > > > > > the same way a planet sees behind and its special

drishti

> > see

> > > > > > behind

> > > > > > > too..like saturn has 3rd and 10th aspect...and in retro

it

> > will

> > > > > > count

> > > > > > > backwards...means if it is placed in 12th house than its

> > retro

> > > > > > drishti will

> > > > > > > be on planet placed in 10th house and so on....got it

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > and even if a nice planet like jupiter (big malefic

for

> > virgo

> > > > > > even lord of

> > > > > > > 4and 7th ...and yog karak for libra even lord of 3rd and

> > 6th..)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > is in lagna and retro then the person will think like

a

> > > > > > retro ...as rahu

> > > > > > > or ketu in lagna says the person will be crazy...means

he

> > > > dontknow

> > > > > > right and

> > > > > > > wrong ...if he is told something to do ...he can do

> > > > it ...without

> > > > > > thinking

> > > > > > > it right or wrong...

> > > > > > > > the same way the retro jupiter will effect ...the same

> > > > way...being

> > > > > > > spiritual but it will behave like ...ego......and

> > thinks ...he

> > > > is

> > > > > > right but

> > > > > > > he is wrong.....

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > at last i want to say that the retro jupiter in lagna

> > will say

> > > > > > that the

> > > > > > > person will do sinful deeds or say negative things but

he

> > will

> > > > > > think he is

> > > > > > > right...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > kindly tell me how much i have understood the topic.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > tarun.....

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dear sri tarun

both the bhukty and mahadasaa lord are badly afflicted with very unfvourabke

transits, so this incident happened.

 

as per Mercury Mahaadasaa, pl do nt be worried.. much money prestige and

astrology..

 

however kanyaa lagna people and buisnessmen ( i hop u r family is in

buisness) are very materialistic..

 

give some time to Divine for nothing in this world is permanet..

 

with good wishes

Gurudatta

 

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"~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst

<valist>

Friday, May 27, 2005 2:03 PM

Re: Retrograde planet in lagna

 

 

> Dear Gurudatta sir,

>

> Namaskar,

>

> Sir as u said that the planets gets so malefic tht it can even kill

> the person..so happened to me in my guru dasha as i m virgo rising.

> Sir when i was one yr old i lost two fingures of my left hand..and

> that time my guru dasha was runnning..since u described the malefic

> extent..i suddenly thought abt this..was this the effect of guru

> dasha.

> The accident happened in our factory..and the same date of the death

> of Indira Gandhi i.e. 30th oct.1984.

>

> sir can u plz analyse that was this the effect of the guru dasha..and

> i have one more question that what wil be the effect of lagnesh

> dasha for me as a virgo rising.will it effect the same.

>

> My dob:-19-07-1983

> Time:- 10.35 am

> Place:- Jodhpur RAjasthan ( 26N18 73E08)

>

> Thanks and rgards.

>

> Tarun Agarwal

>

>

> valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > Dear sri Tarun

> >

> >

> >

> > when a natural benefic owns a Kendra he losses his power to do

> good. it is

> > called KENDRAADHIPA DOSA. It is considered so evil that if this

> planet is

> > afflicted otherwise then it can kill the native.

> >

> >

> >

> > when a natural malefic own a Kendra he ceased to be malefic.

> >

> >

> >

> > these are ordinary rules of Parashary system of astrology.

> >

> >

> >

> > Kindly study Jaatak Chandrikaa , for the effects a planet may give

> during

> > its period.

> >

> > this book is otherwise known as Laghu Paraashari Or Uddudaaya

> pradeep. it is

> > small book, but many of its verses are heard to crack and have been

> greatly

> > debated by great scholars. any one without mastering Jaatak

> chandrikaa can

> > never dreamt of becoming an astrologer.

> >

> >

> >

> > one surely can not become a good astrologer merely by browising

> the net

> > where most transltions of the classics are full of errors.

> >

> >

> >

> > hard work and mastering the classics, guru krupaa and matra siddhi

> are 3

> > essential points of becoming a REAL ( as opposed to the false ones

> who

> > claims themselves as astrologer but do not know ABC of astrology)

> jyotish.

> >

> >

> >

> > hoping that you would one day reach your desire goal.

> >

> >

> >

> > Gurudatta Dash

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > <valist>

> > Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:43 AM

> > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Gurudatta sir,

> > >

> > > namaskar,

> > >

> > > sir this is partiality of jyotish that jupiter is considered

> malefic

> > > for virgo even lord of kendra and yog karak for libra even lord of

> > > 3rd and 6th.

> > >

> > > sir it is true that since it doesnt lords over trikona so it is

> > > considered malefic but this is really worst portion of astrology i

> > > think so..

> > >

> > > thanks and regards,

> > >

> > > tarun..

> > >

> > >

> > > ---

> > >

> > >

> > > In valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash" <gurudatta_d@h...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear sri Tarun

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Kindly accept my Namaskar also.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > For the reason lord of 3rd or 6th is considered evil ,

> precisely

> > > for the

> > > > same reason , for Libra Lagna Jupiter is considered to be

> giving

> > > yoga .

> > > >

> > > > that is RUSIVAAKYA- as per the dictum of the authorities.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Now I qote the exact verse from BHAVARTA RATNAKAR of SRI

> > > RAMAANUYACHAARYA.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > TULALAGNE TU JAATASYA SANIRYOGADOBHABET.

> > > >

> > > > TRUTIYAA SASTHASTHAANOPI GURURYOGAPRADO BHABET.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The meaning is very simple, but for those who do not know

> Sanskrit,

> > > > translated it reads

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > For Libra ascendant Sani causes yoga. THOUGH lord of 3rd and

> 6th

> > > Jupiter

> > > > also becomes capable of producing yoga. Mark the

> word 'THOUGH'..

> > > Means he

> > > > says that even if it is lord of evil houses, it would cause

> yoga.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Commenting on this verse , Dr, BV Raman says , that Sani is

> > > yogakaarak for

> > > > Libra , is quite understandable *****Jupiter is the lord of 3rd

> and

> > > 6th and

> > > > this particular case he is supposed to cause yoga for simple

> reason

> > > that 3rd

> > > > and 6th from Libra happens to be Upachaya signs and hence

> > > beneficial. But

> > > > this combination is quite against the ordinary rules of

> astrology

> > > which

> > > > suggest that lord of 3rd,6th and 11th are always bad.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Now there are many exceptional rules in astrology.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Consider this verse from UTTARA KALAAMRITA of KAALIDASA.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > DEBAADHEESH PUROHITASYA SAHAJANTYAADHEESHATA SANTATAM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > RANDHRAADHEESHWARATAASTAMASTHIRAPY SYAADDYGA KRUDDEHINAAM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > SASTHASTAHA SUBHAKRUT KABIHI SMARAGRAHAGHNYAMAANA STHITO

> > > >

> > > > RAAHURYOGA KARA STRUTEEYA NEELAYE KETUSTU YOGAPRADAH.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Meaning:

> > > >

> > > > if Jupiter happens to be the lord of 3rd and 12th he may cause

> yoga.

> > > >

> > > > If he is the lord of 8th or is in the 8th house he may cause

> yoga.

> > > >

> > > > Also Venus in 6th,and Rahu in 7th ,4th,9th,10th and Ketu in 3rd

> are

> > > highly

> > > > Yogaprada .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps there lies the supremacy and beauty of this divine

> science

> > > called

> > > > VEDIC ASROLOGY . which is perhaps more accurate than any science

> > > for it is

> > > > based not on human erring sensations but on the divine

> intuitions

> > > of Great

> > > > Rushis.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Gurudatta Dash

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > <valist>

> > > > Wednesday, May 25, 2005 4:54 PM

> > > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some obseravations

> on

> > > > retrograde plants

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Namaskar Gurudatta sahab,

> > > > >

> > > > > If the guru is in lagna for a libra ascendant.then it is lord

> of

> > > 3rd

> > > > > and 6th house. and even then it is said a yoga karak for

> librans..

> > > > >

> > > > > kindly suggest me abt that ..

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks ...

> > > > > tarun..

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > > > > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear sri Tarun

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Be absolutely sure that Jupiter in Lagna even when

> retrograde

> > > is an

> > > > > asset

> > > > > > and saves the native from many negatives , this is

> supported by

> > > > > ancient

> > > > > > authorities and confirmed by our experience. However the

> effect

> > > may

> > > > > be

> > > > > > modified due its lordship and raasi in which the Lagna is .

> > > > > sometimes it may

> > > > > > become week to do good or stronger than direct.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For example if Lagna is cancer and the Jupiter is placed

> and if

> > > the

> > > > > lagan is

> > > > > > Capricorn with Jupiter the result would never be same.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RETROGRESSION being an additional bala , only modifies the

> > > effects

> > > > > but can

> > > > > > not change the nature of the planet.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Suppose a person is good & helping and he has 10 rupees with

> > > him,

> > > > > he could

> > > > > > help people with only 10 rupees , but if he has 100 rupees

> his

> > > > > power of

> > > > > > doing good would surely increase.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now suppose a person is destructive and he has 10 rupees, he

> > > would

> > > > > not help

> > > > > > any body for his nature is bad, instead he would utilize

> this

> > > > > amount for

> > > > > > negative purposes. Now if he has 100 rupees his power of

> evil

> > > > > would only

> > > > > > increase.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > so is the case with retrograde benefices and malefices.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Gurudatta Dash

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > > > <valist>

> > > > > > Saturday, May 21, 2005 8:05 PM

> > > > > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some

> obseravations

> > > on

> > > > > > retrograde plants

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > HEllo Gurudatta ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I read ur mail..and found a different opinion from the

> rest of

> > > > > > > astrologers,because many said that retro planets are

> maelefic

> > > even

> > > > > > > jupiter or venus or some else.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Like it is said if jupiter is in lagna and retro it

> creates

> > > > > problem

> > > > > > > to native in every field..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > but u have a very strong point abt chesta bala..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > tarun...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > > > > > > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > It is not that retrograde planets are always bad.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Infact retrograde planets are supposed to be powerful

> and

> > > there

> > > > > > > BALA is

> > > > > > > > known as CHESTA BALA . And when calculating the

> AYURDAAYA

> > > i. e .

> > > > > > > longevity

> > > > > > > > the points are doubled when the planet is in

> retrogression.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But how the retrograde planets give results practically

> is a

> > > > > matter

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > controversy. Even certain Raajayogas are based on the

> > > > > retrogression

> > > > > > > of the

> > > > > > > > planet as the pivotal point.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It is held that such planets give the opposite result

> as is

> > > > > expected

> > > > > > > > noramally because of its placement. i.e. such a planet

> in

> > > > > > > debilitation gives

> > > > > > > > the result as if exalted and when in exaltation or in

> own

> > > > > house in

> > > > > > > > retrogression ,- - quite ordinary result.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Some authorities say that benefices when retro become

> very

> > > > > > > auspicious and

> > > > > > > > malefic very malefic.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Also certain planets are ascribed specifics results when

> > > they

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > > e.g. Jupiter when retrograde--- the person becomes

> > > successful

> > > > > where

> > > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > peoples fail and losses good opportunities.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Venus is said to be give highly auspicious result in its

> > > dasa

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > bhukty

> > > > > > > > when retrograde.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > However as a general rule mars and Saturn when

> retrograde

> > > are

> > > > > > > considered to

> > > > > > > > be highly destructive and malefics.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In my horoscope Jupiter is retrograde and it gave quite

> > > > > auspicious

> > > > > > > result

> > > > > > > > even though it is in libra - enemy sign. Of course it

> is my

> > > 9 th

> > > > > > > lord and is

> > > > > > > > placed in 4th aspected by yogakaarak mars and in

> exchange

> > > with

> > > > > an

> > > > > > > exalted

> > > > > > > > Venus. Still I consider Jupiter in this particular case

> gave

> > > > > good

> > > > > > > result

> > > > > > > > partly due to its retrogression

> > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > "~~Tarun~~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > > > > > "Valist" <valist>; "jyotish

> remedies"

> > > > > > > > <>; "Vedic Adtrology"

> > > > > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > > > > Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:59 PM

> > > > > > > > Retrograde planet in lagna

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > hello learned members,,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > i wish to ask for opinion of the members,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > that if a planet is retrograde and placed in

> lagna...then

> > > it

> > > > > > > gives a

> > > > > > > > mentality or thinking in retro direction means like

> ketu or

> > > rahu

> > > > > > > are always

> > > > > > > > retro..(as what i know)...

> > > > > > > > > the same way...retro means backward...like we move a

> car

> > > in

> > > > > > > backward

> > > > > > > > direction and we see backward so that we dont hit any

> thing

> > > > > behind

> > > > > > > > > the same way a planet sees behind and its special

> drishti

> > > see

> > > > > > > behind

> > > > > > > > too..like saturn has 3rd and 10th aspect...and in retro

> it

> > > will

> > > > > > > count

> > > > > > > > backwards...means if it is placed in 12th house than its

> > > retro

> > > > > > > drishti will

> > > > > > > > be on planet placed in 10th house and so on....got it

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > and even if a nice planet like jupiter (big malefic

> for

> > > virgo

> > > > > > > even lord of

> > > > > > > > 4and 7th ...and yog karak for libra even lord of 3rd and

> > > 6th..)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > is in lagna and retro then the person will think like

> a

> > > > > > > retro ...as rahu

> > > > > > > > or ketu in lagna says the person will be crazy...means

> he

> > > > > dontknow

> > > > > > > right and

> > > > > > > > wrong ...if he is told something to do ...he can do

> > > > > it ...without

> > > > > > > thinking

> > > > > > > > it right or wrong...

> > > > > > > > > the same way the retro jupiter will effect ...the same

> > > > > way...being

> > > > > > > > spiritual but it will behave like ...ego......and

> > > thinks ...he

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > right but

> > > > > > > > he is wrong.....

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > at last i want to say that the retro jupiter in lagna

> > > will say

> > > > > > > that the

> > > > > > > > person will do sinful deeds or say negative things but

> he

> > > will

> > > > > > > think he is

> > > > > > > > right...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > kindly tell me how much i have understood the topic.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > tarun.....

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Dear Gurudatta sir,

 

sir i have manu quesions abt astrology.but i think i may not make u

irritate abt my mails.because u are mailing me very kindly.

i am grateful to you abt that.

 

Sir as u have written "give some time to Divine for nothing in this

world is permanet" i hope u have seen something different in my

horoscope. Sir if u can suggest me something i would be thankful to

you..

 

Thanks and Best Regards

 

Tarun.

 

valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

<gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> dear sri tarun

> both the bhukty and mahadasaa lord are badly afflicted with very

unfvourabke

> transits, so this incident happened.

>

> as per Mercury Mahaadasaa, pl do nt be worried.. much money

prestige and

> astrology..

>

> however kanyaa lagna people and buisnessmen ( i hop u r family is in

> buisness) are very materialistic..

>

> give some time to Divine for nothing in this world is permanet..

>

> with good wishes

> Gurudatta

>

> -

> "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> <valist>

> Friday, May 27, 2005 2:03 PM

> Re: Retrograde planet in lagna

>

>

> > Dear Gurudatta sir,

> >

> > Namaskar,

> >

> > Sir as u said that the planets gets so malefic tht it can even

kill

> > the person..so happened to me in my guru dasha as i m virgo

rising.

> > Sir when i was one yr old i lost two fingures of my left hand..and

> > that time my guru dasha was runnning..since u described the

malefic

> > extent..i suddenly thought abt this..was this the effect of guru

> > dasha.

> > The accident happened in our factory..and the same date of the

death

> > of Indira Gandhi i.e. 30th oct.1984.

> >

> > sir can u plz analyse that was this the effect of the guru

dasha..and

> > i have one more question that what wil be the effect of lagnesh

> > dasha for me as a virgo rising.will it effect the same.

> >

> > My dob:-19-07-1983

> > Time:- 10.35 am

> > Place:- Jodhpur RAjasthan ( 26N18 73E08)

> >

> > Thanks and rgards.

> >

> > Tarun Agarwal

> >

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Dear Sonia,

 

although there are several combinations which are said to answer your question ,

to my mind it appears that when your heart searches and aspires intensely

for Him , His KARUNAA or blessings are realized.

 

Now who is Guru , he is none but the human face of the Divine .

 

And what is astrology ( as we utilize now) -interpretation of the previous

karmas through planets as they unfold there effects in the ladder of time.

 

Now who is greater Divine or Karma? surely Divine is no way bound by the laws of

karma.

he is beyond every thing ..anything and everything you can imagine and not

imagine.

And planets have no power to define Him or understand Him

 

so also Guru who can only be defined by the love and aspirations of the a

sincere mind and a searching heart.

 

Call Him like a child calls his mother and do not look towards planets.. He

would defy all the rules and Laws to manifest before you.

 

May His blessings be on you.

 

Gurudatta Dash

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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"aug_sonia" <aug_sonia

<valist>

Friday, May 27, 2005 11:10 AM

Re: Retrograde planet in lagna

 

 

> hello sir

>

> i m absolutely agree what you have said about how one can become a

> good astrologer.

> "hard work and mastering the classics, guru krupaa and matra siddhi

> are

> 3

> essential points of becoming a REAL ( as opposed to the false ones who

> claims themselves as astrologer but do not know ABC of astrology)

> jyotish."

>

> sir can we find out that when one can have guru kripa?

>

> which yogas and dashas in horoscopes tell us about this?

>

> Is transit also have any role in it.?

>

> Well sir my english is not good

> but i hope u understood what i want to ask and also hope that u will

> answer it.

>

>

> with regards

> sonia

>

>

>

> valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash" <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > Dear sri Tarun

> >

> >

> >

> > when a natural benefic owns a Kendra he losses his power to do

> good. it is

> > called KENDRAADHIPA DOSA. It is considered so evil that if this

> planet is

> > afflicted otherwise then it can kill the native.

> >

> >

> >

> > when a natural malefic own a Kendra he ceased to be malefic.

> >

> >

> >

> > these are ordinary rules of Parashary system of astrology.

> >

> >

> >

> > Kindly study Jaatak Chandrikaa , for the effects a planet may give

> during

> > its period.

> >

> > this book is otherwise known as Laghu Paraashari Or Uddudaaya

> pradeep. it is

> > small book, but many of its verses are heard to crack and have been

> greatly

> > debated by great scholars. any one without mastering Jaatak

> chandrikaa can

> > never dreamt of becoming an astrologer.

> >

> >

> >

> > one surely can not become a good astrologer merely by browising

> the net

> > where most transltions of the classics are full of errors.

> >

> >

> >

> > hard work and mastering the classics, guru krupaa and matra siddhi

> are 3

> > essential points of becoming a REAL ( as opposed to the false ones

> who

> > claims themselves as astrologer but do not know ABC of astrology)

> jyotish.

> >

> >

> >

> > hoping that you would one day reach your desire goal.

> >

> >

> >

> > Gurudatta Dash

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > <valist>

> > Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:43 AM

> > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Gurudatta sir,

> > >

> > > namaskar,

> > >

> > > sir this is partiality of jyotish that jupiter is considered

> malefic

> > > for virgo even lord of kendra and yog karak for libra even lord of

> > > 3rd and 6th.

> > >

> > > sir it is true that since it doesnt lords over trikona so it is

> > > considered malefic but this is really worst portion of astrology i

> > > think so..

> > >

> > > thanks and regards,

> > >

> > > tarun..

> > >

> > >

> > > ---

> > >

> > >

> > > In valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash" <gurudatta_d@h...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear sri Tarun

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Kindly accept my Namaskar also.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > For the reason lord of 3rd or 6th is considered evil ,

> precisely

> > > for the

> > > > same reason , for Libra Lagna Jupiter is considered to be

> giving

> > > yoga .

> > > >

> > > > that is RUSIVAAKYA- as per the dictum of the authorities.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Now I qote the exact verse from BHAVARTA RATNAKAR of SRI

> > > RAMAANUYACHAARYA.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > TULALAGNE TU JAATASYA SANIRYOGADOBHABET.

> > > >

> > > > TRUTIYAA SASTHASTHAANOPI GURURYOGAPRADO BHABET.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The meaning is very simple, but for those who do not know

> Sanskrit,

> > > > translated it reads

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > For Libra ascendant Sani causes yoga. THOUGH lord of 3rd and

> 6th

> > > Jupiter

> > > > also becomes capable of producing yoga. Mark the

> word 'THOUGH'..

> > > Means he

> > > > says that even if it is lord of evil houses, it would cause

> yoga.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Commenting on this verse , Dr, BV Raman says , that Sani is

> > > yogakaarak for

> > > > Libra , is quite understandable *****Jupiter is the lord of 3rd

> and

> > > 6th and

> > > > this particular case he is supposed to cause yoga for simple

> reason

> > > that 3rd

> > > > and 6th from Libra happens to be Upachaya signs and hence

> > > beneficial. But

> > > > this combination is quite against the ordinary rules of

> astrology

> > > which

> > > > suggest that lord of 3rd,6th and 11th are always bad.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Now there are many exceptional rules in astrology.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Consider this verse from UTTARA KALAAMRITA of KAALIDASA.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > DEBAADHEESH PUROHITASYA SAHAJANTYAADHEESHATA SANTATAM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > RANDHRAADHEESHWARATAASTAMASTHIRAPY SYAADDYGA KRUDDEHINAAM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > SASTHASTAHA SUBHAKRUT KABIHI SMARAGRAHAGHNYAMAANA STHITO

> > > >

> > > > RAAHURYOGA KARA STRUTEEYA NEELAYE KETUSTU YOGAPRADAH.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Meaning:

> > > >

> > > > if Jupiter happens to be the lord of 3rd and 12th he may cause

> yoga.

> > > >

> > > > If he is the lord of 8th or is in the 8th house he may cause

> yoga.

> > > >

> > > > Also Venus in 6th,and Rahu in 7th ,4th,9th,10th and Ketu in 3rd

> are

> > > highly

> > > > Yogaprada .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps there lies the supremacy and beauty of this divine

> science

> > > called

> > > > VEDIC ASROLOGY . which is perhaps more accurate than any science

> > > for it is

> > > > based not on human erring sensations but on the divine

> intuitions

> > > of Great

> > > > Rushis.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Gurudatta Dash

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > <valist>

> > > > Wednesday, May 25, 2005 4:54 PM

> > > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some obseravations

> on

> > > > retrograde plants

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Namaskar Gurudatta sahab,

> > > > >

> > > > > If the guru is in lagna for a libra ascendant.then it is lord

> of

> > > 3rd

> > > > > and 6th house. and even then it is said a yoga karak for

> librans..

> > > > >

> > > > > kindly suggest me abt that ..

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks ...

> > > > > tarun..

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > > > > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear sri Tarun

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Be absolutely sure that Jupiter in Lagna even when

> retrograde

> > > is an

> > > > > asset

> > > > > > and saves the native from many negatives , this is

> supported by

> > > > > ancient

> > > > > > authorities and confirmed by our experience. However the

> effect

> > > may

> > > > > be

> > > > > > modified due its lordship and raasi in which the Lagna is .

> > > > > sometimes it may

> > > > > > become week to do good or stronger than direct.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For example if Lagna is cancer and the Jupiter is placed

> and if

> > > the

> > > > > lagan is

> > > > > > Capricorn with Jupiter the result would never be same.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RETROGRESSION being an additional bala , only modifies the

> > > effects

> > > > > but can

> > > > > > not change the nature of the planet.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Suppose a person is good & helping and he has 10 rupees with

> > > him,

> > > > > he could

> > > > > > help people with only 10 rupees , but if he has 100 rupees

> his

> > > > > power of

> > > > > > doing good would surely increase.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now suppose a person is destructive and he has 10 rupees, he

> > > would

> > > > > not help

> > > > > > any body for his nature is bad, instead he would utilize

> this

> > > > > amount for

> > > > > > negative purposes. Now if he has 100 rupees his power of

> evil

> > > > > would only

> > > > > > increase.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > so is the case with retrograde benefices and malefices.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Gurudatta Dash

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > > > <valist>

> > > > > > Saturday, May 21, 2005 8:05 PM

> > > > > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some

> obseravations

> > > on

> > > > > > retrograde plants

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > HEllo Gurudatta ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I read ur mail..and found a different opinion from the

> rest of

> > > > > > > astrologers,because many said that retro planets are

> maelefic

> > > even

> > > > > > > jupiter or venus or some else.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Like it is said if jupiter is in lagna and retro it

> creates

> > > > > problem

> > > > > > > to native in every field..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > but u have a very strong point abt chesta bala..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > tarun...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > > > > > > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > It is not that retrograde planets are always bad.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Infact retrograde planets are supposed to be powerful

> and

> > > there

> > > > > > > BALA is

> > > > > > > > known as CHESTA BALA . And when calculating the

> AYURDAAYA

> > > i. e .

> > > > > > > longevity

> > > > > > > > the points are doubled when the planet is in

> retrogression.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But how the retrograde planets give results practically

> is a

> > > > > matter

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > controversy. Even certain Raajayogas are based on the

> > > > > retrogression

> > > > > > > of the

> > > > > > > > planet as the pivotal point.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It is held that such planets give the opposite result

> as is

> > > > > expected

> > > > > > > > noramally because of its placement. i.e. such a planet

> in

> > > > > > > debilitation gives

> > > > > > > > the result as if exalted and when in exaltation or in

> own

> > > > > house in

> > > > > > > > retrogression ,- - quite ordinary result.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Some authorities say that benefices when retro become

> very

> > > > > > > auspicious and

> > > > > > > > malefic very malefic.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Also certain planets are ascribed specifics results when

> > > they

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > > e.g. Jupiter when retrograde--- the person becomes

> > > successful

> > > > > where

> > > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > peoples fail and losses good opportunities.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Venus is said to be give highly auspicious result in its

> > > dasa

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > bhukty

> > > > > > > > when retrograde.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > However as a general rule mars and Saturn when

> retrograde

> > > are

> > > > > > > considered to

> > > > > > > > be highly destructive and malefics.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In my horoscope Jupiter is retrograde and it gave quite

> > > > > auspicious

> > > > > > > result

> > > > > > > > even though it is in libra - enemy sign. Of course it

> is my

> > > 9 th

> > > > > > > lord and is

> > > > > > > > placed in 4th aspected by yogakaarak mars and in

> exchange

> > > with

> > > > > an

> > > > > > > exalted

> > > > > > > > Venus. Still I consider Jupiter in this particular case

> gave

> > > > > good

> > > > > > > result

> > > > > > > > partly due to its retrogression

> > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > "~~Tarun~~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > > > > > "Valist" <valist>; "jyotish

> remedies"

> > > > > > > > <>; "Vedic Adtrology"

> > > > > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > > > > Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:59 PM

> > > > > > > > Retrograde planet in lagna

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > hello learned members,,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > i wish to ask for opinion of the members,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > that if a planet is retrograde and placed in

> lagna...then

> > > it

> > > > > > > gives a

> > > > > > > > mentality or thinking in retro direction means like

> ketu or

> > > rahu

> > > > > > > are always

> > > > > > > > retro..(as what i know)...

> > > > > > > > > the same way...retro means backward...like we move a

> car

> > > in

> > > > > > > backward

> > > > > > > > direction and we see backward so that we dont hit any

> thing

> > > > > behind

> > > > > > > > > the same way a planet sees behind and its special

> drishti

> > > see

> > > > > > > behind

> > > > > > > > too..like saturn has 3rd and 10th aspect...and in retro

> it

> > > will

> > > > > > > count

> > > > > > > > backwards...means if it is placed in 12th house than its

> > > retro

> > > > > > > drishti will

> > > > > > > > be on planet placed in 10th house and so on....got it

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > and even if a nice planet like jupiter (big malefic

> for

> > > virgo

> > > > > > > even lord of

> > > > > > > > 4and 7th ...and yog karak for libra even lord of 3rd and

> > > 6th..)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > is in lagna and retro then the person will think like

> a

> > > > > > > retro ...as rahu

> > > > > > > > or ketu in lagna says the person will be crazy...means

> he

> > > > > dontknow

> > > > > > > right and

> > > > > > > > wrong ...if he is told something to do ...he can do

> > > > > it ...without

> > > > > > > thinking

> > > > > > > > it right or wrong...

> > > > > > > > > the same way the retro jupiter will effect ...the same

> > > > > way...being

> > > > > > > > spiritual but it will behave like ...ego......and

> > > thinks ...he

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > right but

> > > > > > > > he is wrong.....

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > at last i want to say that the retro jupiter in lagna

> > > will say

> > > > > > > that the

> > > > > > > > person will do sinful deeds or say negative things but

> he

> > > will

> > > > > > > think he is

> > > > > > > > right...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > kindly tell me how much i have understood the topic.

> > > > > > > > >

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Thanks sir

 

please tell me do i have a fortune to have blessings of a guru

my nirth details are

 

DOB-23/08/1982

TOB-2:50AM

POB-DELHI

 

ASC-GEMINI

RASI-VIRGO

valist, "Dr. Gurudatts Dash"

<gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> ---

> Dear Sonia,

>

> although there are several combinations which are said to answer

your question , to my mind it appears that when your heart searches

and aspires intensely

> for Him , His KARUNAA or blessings are realized.

>

> Now who is Guru , he is none but the human face of the Divine .

>

> And what is astrology ( as we utilize now) -interpretation of the

previous karmas through planets as they unfold there effects in the

ladder of time.

>

> Now who is greater Divine or Karma? surely Divine is no way bound

by the laws of karma.

> he is beyond every thing ..anything and everything you can imagine

and not imagine.

> And planets have no power to define Him or understand Him

>

> so also Guru who can only be defined by the love and aspirations of

the a sincere mind and a searching heart.

>

> Call Him like a child calls his mother and do not look towards

planets.. He would defy all the rules and Laws to manifest before you.

>

> May His blessings be on you.

>

> Gurudatta Dash

>

>

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>

-- Original Message -----

> "aug_sonia" <aug_sonia>

> <valist>

> Friday, May 27, 2005 11:10 AM

> Re: Retrograde planet in lagna

>

>

> > hello sir

> >

> > i m absolutely agree what you have said about how one can become

a

> > good astrologer.

> > "hard work and mastering the classics, guru krupaa and matra

siddhi

> > are

> > 3

> > essential points of becoming a REAL ( as opposed to the false

ones who

> > claims themselves as astrologer but do not know ABC of astrology)

> > jyotish."

> >

> > sir can we find out that when one can have guru kripa?

> >

> > which yogas and dashas in horoscopes tell us about this?

> >

> > Is transit also have any role in it.?

> >

> > Well sir my english is not good

> > but i hope u understood what i want to ask and also hope that u

will

> > answer it.

> >

> >

> > with regards

> > sonia

> >

> >

> >

> > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash" <gurudatta_d@h...>

wrote:

> > > Dear sri Tarun

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > when a natural benefic owns a Kendra he losses his power to do

> > good. it is

> > > called KENDRAADHIPA DOSA. It is considered so evil that if

this

> > planet is

> > > afflicted otherwise then it can kill the native.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > when a natural malefic own a Kendra he ceased to be malefic.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > these are ordinary rules of Parashary system of astrology.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Kindly study Jaatak Chandrikaa , for the effects a planet may

give

> > during

> > > its period.

> > >

> > > this book is otherwise known as Laghu Paraashari Or Uddudaaya

> > pradeep. it is

> > > small book, but many of its verses are heard to crack and have

been

> > greatly

> > > debated by great scholars. any one without mastering Jaatak

> > chandrikaa can

> > > never dreamt of becoming an astrologer.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > one surely can not become a good astrologer merely by

browising

> > the net

> > > where most transltions of the classics are full of errors.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > hard work and mastering the classics, guru krupaa and matra

siddhi

> > are 3

> > > essential points of becoming a REAL ( as opposed to the false

ones

> > who

> > > claims themselves as astrologer but do not know ABC of

astrology)

> > jyotish.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > hoping that you would one day reach your desire goal.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Gurudatta Dash

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > > <valist>

> > > Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:43 AM

> > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gurudatta sir,

> > > >

> > > > namaskar,

> > > >

> > > > sir this is partiality of jyotish that jupiter is considered

> > malefic

> > > > for virgo even lord of kendra and yog karak for libra even

lord of

> > > > 3rd and 6th.

> > > >

> > > > sir it is true that since it doesnt lords over trikona so it

is

> > > > considered malefic but this is really worst portion of

astrology i

> > > > think so..

> > > >

> > > > thanks and regards,

> > > >

> > > > tarun..

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

<gurudatta_d@h...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear sri Tarun

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Kindly accept my Namaskar also.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > For the reason lord of 3rd or 6th is considered evil ,

> > precisely

> > > > for the

> > > > > same reason , for Libra Lagna Jupiter is considered to be

> > giving

> > > > yoga .

> > > > >

> > > > > that is RUSIVAAKYA- as per the dictum of the authorities.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Now I qote the exact verse from BHAVARTA RATNAKAR of SRI

> > > > RAMAANUYACHAARYA.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > TULALAGNE TU JAATASYA SANIRYOGADOBHABET.

> > > > >

> > > > > TRUTIYAA SASTHASTHAANOPI GURURYOGAPRADO BHABET.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The meaning is very simple, but for those who do not know

> > Sanskrit,

> > > > > translated it reads

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > For Libra ascendant Sani causes yoga. THOUGH lord of 3rd

and

> > 6th

> > > > Jupiter

> > > > > also becomes capable of producing yoga. Mark the

> > word 'THOUGH'..

> > > > Means he

> > > > > says that even if it is lord of evil houses, it would cause

> > yoga.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Commenting on this verse , Dr, BV Raman says , that Sani is

> > > > yogakaarak for

> > > > > Libra , is quite understandable *****Jupiter is the lord of

3rd

> > and

> > > > 6th and

> > > > > this particular case he is supposed to cause yoga for

simple

> > reason

> > > > that 3rd

> > > > > and 6th from Libra happens to be Upachaya signs and hence

> > > > beneficial. But

> > > > > this combination is quite against the ordinary rules of

> > astrology

> > > > which

> > > > > suggest that lord of 3rd,6th and 11th are always bad.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Now there are many exceptional rules in astrology.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Consider this verse from UTTARA KALAAMRITA of KAALIDASA.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > DEBAADHEESH PUROHITASYA SAHAJANTYAADHEESHATA SANTATAM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > RANDHRAADHEESHWARATAASTAMASTHIRAPY SYAADDYGA KRUDDEHINAAM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > SASTHASTAHA SUBHAKRUT KABIHI SMARAGRAHAGHNYAMAANA STHITO

> > > > >

> > > > > RAAHURYOGA KARA STRUTEEYA NEELAYE KETUSTU YOGAPRADAH.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Meaning:

> > > > >

> > > > > if Jupiter happens to be the lord of 3rd and 12th he may

cause

> > yoga.

> > > > >

> > > > > If he is the lord of 8th or is in the 8th house he may

cause

> > yoga.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also Venus in 6th,and Rahu in 7th ,4th,9th,10th and Ketu in

3rd

> > are

> > > > highly

> > > > > Yogaprada .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Perhaps there lies the supremacy and beauty of this divine

> > science

> > > > called

> > > > > VEDIC ASROLOGY . which is perhaps more accurate than any

science

> > > > for it is

> > > > > based not on human erring sensations but on the divine

> > intuitions

> > > > of Great

> > > > > Rushis.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Gurudatta Dash

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > > <valist>

> > > > > Wednesday, May 25, 2005 4:54 PM

> > > > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some

obseravations

> > on

> > > > > retrograde plants

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Namaskar Gurudatta sahab,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If the guru is in lagna for a libra ascendant.then it is

lord

> > of

> > > > 3rd

> > > > > > and 6th house. and even then it is said a yoga karak for

> > librans..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > kindly suggest me abt that ..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks ...

> > > > > > tarun..

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > > > > > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear sri Tarun

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Be absolutely sure that Jupiter in Lagna even when

> > retrograde

> > > > is an

> > > > > > asset

> > > > > > > and saves the native from many negatives , this is

> > supported by

> > > > > > ancient

> > > > > > > authorities and confirmed by our experience. However

the

> > effect

> > > > may

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > modified due its lordship and raasi in which the Lagna

is .

> > > > > > sometimes it may

> > > > > > > become week to do good or stronger than direct.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For example if Lagna is cancer and the Jupiter is

placed

> > and if

> > > > the

> > > > > > lagan is

> > > > > > > Capricorn with Jupiter the result would never be same.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RETROGRESSION being an additional bala , only modifies

the

> > > > effects

> > > > > > but can

> > > > > > > not change the nature of the planet.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Suppose a person is good & helping and he has 10 rupees

with

> > > > him,

> > > > > > he could

> > > > > > > help people with only 10 rupees , but if he has 100

rupees

> > his

> > > > > > power of

> > > > > > > doing good would surely increase.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now suppose a person is destructive and he has 10

rupees, he

> > > > would

> > > > > > not help

> > > > > > > any body for his nature is bad, instead he would

utilize

> > this

> > > > > > amount for

> > > > > > > negative purposes. Now if he has 100 rupees his power

of

> > evil

> > > > > > would only

> > > > > > > increase.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > so is the case with retrograde benefices and malefices.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Gurudatta Dash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > > > > <valist>

> > > > > > > Saturday, May 21, 2005 8:05 PM

> > > > > > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some

> > obseravations

> > > > on

> > > > > > > retrograde plants

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > HEllo Gurudatta ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I read ur mail..and found a different opinion from

the

> > rest of

> > > > > > > > astrologers,because many said that retro planets are

> > maelefic

> > > > even

> > > > > > > > jupiter or venus or some else.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Like it is said if jupiter is in lagna and retro it

> > creates

> > > > > > problem

> > > > > > > > to native in every field..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > but u have a very strong point abt chesta bala..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > tarun...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > > > > > > > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > It is not that retrograde planets are always bad.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Infact retrograde planets are supposed to be

powerful

> > and

> > > > there

> > > > > > > > BALA is

> > > > > > > > > known as CHESTA BALA . And when calculating the

> > AYURDAAYA

> > > > i. e .

> > > > > > > > longevity

> > > > > > > > > the points are doubled when the planet is in

> > retrogression.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > But how the retrograde planets give results

practically

> > is a

> > > > > > matter

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > controversy. Even certain Raajayogas are based on

the

> > > > > > retrogression

> > > > > > > > of the

> > > > > > > > > planet as the pivotal point.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It is held that such planets give the opposite

result

> > as is

> > > > > > expected

> > > > > > > > > noramally because of its placement. i.e. such a

planet

> > in

> > > > > > > > debilitation gives

> > > > > > > > > the result as if exalted and when in exaltation or

in

> > own

> > > > > > house in

> > > > > > > > > retrogression ,- - quite ordinary result.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Some authorities say that benefices when retro

become

> > very

> > > > > > > > auspicious and

> > > > > > > > > malefic very malefic.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Also certain planets are ascribed specifics results

when

> > > > they

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > > > e.g. Jupiter when retrograde--- the person becomes

> > > > successful

> > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > peoples fail and losses good opportunities.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Venus is said to be give highly auspicious result

in its

> > > > dasa

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > bhukty

> > > > > > > > > when retrograde.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > However as a general rule mars and Saturn when

> > retrograde

> > > > are

> > > > > > > > considered to

> > > > > > > > > be highly destructive and malefics.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In my horoscope Jupiter is retrograde and it gave

quite

> > > > > > auspicious

> > > > > > > > result

> > > > > > > > > even though it is in libra - enemy sign. Of course

it

> > is my

> > > > 9 th

> > > > > > > > lord and is

> > > > > > > > > placed in 4th aspected by yogakaarak mars and in

> > exchange

> > > > with

> > > > > > an

> > > > > > > > exalted

> > > > > > > > > Venus. Still I consider Jupiter in this particular

case

> > gave

> > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > result

> > > > > > > > > partly due to its retrogression

> > > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > "~~Tarun~~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > > > > > > "Valist" <valist>; "jyotish

> > remedies"

> > > > > > > > > <>; "Vedic

Adtrology"

> > > > > > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > > > > > Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:59 PM

> > > > > > > > > Retrograde planet in lagna

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > hello learned members,,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > i wish to ask for opinion of the members,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > that if a planet is retrograde and placed in

> > lagna...then

> > > > it

> > > > > > > > gives a

> > > > > > > > > mentality or thinking in retro direction means like

> > ketu or

> > > > rahu

> > > > > > > > are always

> > > > > > > > > retro..(as what i know)...

> > > > > > > > > > the same way...retro means backward...like we

move a

> > car

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > backward

> > > > > > > > > direction and we see backward so that we dont hit

any

> > thing

> > > > > > behind

> > > > > > > > > > the same way a planet sees behind and its special

> > drishti

> > > > see

> > > > > > > > behind

> > > > > > > > > too..like saturn has 3rd and 10th aspect...and in

retro

> > it

> > > > will

> > > > > > > > count

> > > > > > > > > backwards...means if it is placed in 12th house

than its

> > > > retro

> > > > > > > > drishti will

> > > > > > > > > be on planet placed in 10th house and so on....got

it

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > and even if a nice planet like jupiter (big

malefic

> > for

> > > > virgo

> > > > > > > > even lord of

> > > > > > > > > 4and 7th ...and yog karak for libra even lord of

3rd and

> > > > 6th..)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > is in lagna and retro then the person will think

like

> > a

> > > > > > > > retro ...as rahu

> > > > > > > > > or ketu in lagna says the person will be

crazy...means

> > he

> > > > > > dontknow

> > > > > > > > right and

> > > > > > > > > wrong ...if he is told something to do ...he can do

> > > > > > it ...without

> > > > > > > > thinking

> > > > > > > > > it right or wrong...

> > > > > > > > > > the same way the retro jupiter will effect ...the

same

> > > > > > way...being

> > > > > > > > > spiritual but it will behave like ...ego......and

> > > > thinks ...he

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > right but

> > > > > > > > > he is wrong.....

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > at last i want to say that the retro jupiter in

lagna

> > > > will say

> > > > > > > > that the

> > > > > > > > > person will do sinful deeds or say negative things

but

> > he

> > > > will

> > > > > > > > think he is

> > > > > > > > > right...

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > kindly tell me how much i have understood the

topic.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > tarun.....

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i am not able to properly comprehend your question. Whether you want to know

when you would meet Sadguru whose search is already on or you want to know

when you have proper spiritual siddhhi , kindly express in detail . however

your horoscope speaks well of your menatl conflict.

 

 

 

Gurudatta Dash

 

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"aug_sonia" <aug_sonia

<valist>

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 12:37 PM

Re: Retrograde planet in lagna

 

 

> Thanks sir

>

> please tell me do i have a fortune to have blessings of a guru

> my nirth details are

>

> DOB-23/08/1982

> TOB-2:50AM

> POB-DELHI

>

> ASC-GEMINI

> RASI-VIRGO

> valist, "Dr. Gurudatts Dash"

> <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > ---

> > Dear Sonia,

> >

> > although there are several combinations which are said to answer

> your question , to my mind it appears that when your heart searches

> and aspires intensely

> > for Him , His KARUNAA or blessings are realized.

> >

> > Now who is Guru , he is none but the human face of the Divine .

> >

> > And what is astrology ( as we utilize now) -interpretation of the

> previous karmas through planets as they unfold there effects in the

> ladder of time.

> >

> > Now who is greater Divine or Karma? surely Divine is no way bound

> by the laws of karma.

> > he is beyond every thing ..anything and everything you can imagine

> and not imagine.

> > And planets have no power to define Him or understand Him

> >

> > so also Guru who can only be defined by the love and aspirations of

> the a sincere mind and a searching heart.

> >

> > Call Him like a child calls his mother and do not look towards

> planets.. He would defy all the rules and Laws to manifest before you.

> >

> > May His blessings be on you.

> >

> > Gurudatta Dash

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -- Original Message -----

> > "aug_sonia" <aug_sonia>

> > <valist>

> > Friday, May 27, 2005 11:10 AM

> > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna

> >

> >

> > > hello sir

> > >

> > > i m absolutely agree what you have said about how one can become

> a

> > > good astrologer.

> > > "hard work and mastering the classics, guru krupaa and matra

> siddhi

> > > are

> > > 3

> > > essential points of becoming a REAL ( as opposed to the false

> ones who

> > > claims themselves as astrologer but do not know ABC of astrology)

> > > jyotish."

> > >

> > > sir can we find out that when one can have guru kripa?

> > >

> > > which yogas and dashas in horoscopes tell us about this?

> > >

> > > Is transit also have any role in it.?

> > >

> > > Well sir my english is not good

> > > but i hope u understood what i want to ask and also hope that u

> will

> > > answer it.

> > >

> > >

> > > with regards

> > > sonia

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash" <gurudatta_d@h...>

> wrote:

> > > > Dear sri Tarun

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > when a natural benefic owns a Kendra he losses his power to do

> > > good. it is

> > > > called KENDRAADHIPA DOSA. It is considered so evil that if

> this

> > > planet is

> > > > afflicted otherwise then it can kill the native.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > when a natural malefic own a Kendra he ceased to be malefic.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > these are ordinary rules of Parashary system of astrology.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Kindly study Jaatak Chandrikaa , for the effects a planet may

> give

> > > during

> > > > its period.

> > > >

> > > > this book is otherwise known as Laghu Paraashari Or Uddudaaya

> > > pradeep. it is

> > > > small book, but many of its verses are heard to crack and have

> been

> > > greatly

> > > > debated by great scholars. any one without mastering Jaatak

> > > chandrikaa can

> > > > never dreamt of becoming an astrologer.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > one surely can not become a good astrologer merely by

> browising

> > > the net

> > > > where most transltions of the classics are full of errors.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > hard work and mastering the classics, guru krupaa and matra

> siddhi

> > > are 3

> > > > essential points of becoming a REAL ( as opposed to the false

> ones

> > > who

> > > > claims themselves as astrologer but do not know ABC of

> astrology)

> > > jyotish.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > hoping that you would one day reach your desire goal.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Gurudatta Dash

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > <valist>

> > > > Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:43 AM

> > > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Gurudatta sir,

> > > > >

> > > > > namaskar,

> > > > >

> > > > > sir this is partiality of jyotish that jupiter is considered

> > > malefic

> > > > > for virgo even lord of kendra and yog karak for libra even

> lord of

> > > > > 3rd and 6th.

> > > > >

> > > > > sir it is true that since it doesnt lords over trikona so it

> is

> > > > > considered malefic but this is really worst portion of

> astrology i

> > > > > think so..

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks and regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > tarun..

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ---

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > In valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> <gurudatta_d@h...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear sri Tarun

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Kindly accept my Namaskar also.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For the reason lord of 3rd or 6th is considered evil ,

> > > precisely

> > > > > for the

> > > > > > same reason , for Libra Lagna Jupiter is considered to be

> > > giving

> > > > > yoga .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > that is RUSIVAAKYA- as per the dictum of the authorities.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now I qote the exact verse from BHAVARTA RATNAKAR of SRI

> > > > > RAMAANUYACHAARYA.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > TULALAGNE TU JAATASYA SANIRYOGADOBHABET.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > TRUTIYAA SASTHASTHAANOPI GURURYOGAPRADO BHABET.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The meaning is very simple, but for those who do not know

> > > Sanskrit,

> > > > > > translated it reads

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For Libra ascendant Sani causes yoga. THOUGH lord of 3rd

> and

> > > 6th

> > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > also becomes capable of producing yoga. Mark the

> > > word 'THOUGH'..

> > > > > Means he

> > > > > > says that even if it is lord of evil houses, it would cause

> > > yoga.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Commenting on this verse , Dr, BV Raman says , that Sani is

> > > > > yogakaarak for

> > > > > > Libra , is quite understandable *****Jupiter is the lord of

> 3rd

> > > and

> > > > > 6th and

> > > > > > this particular case he is supposed to cause yoga for

> simple

> > > reason

> > > > > that 3rd

> > > > > > and 6th from Libra happens to be Upachaya signs and hence

> > > > > beneficial. But

> > > > > > this combination is quite against the ordinary rules of

> > > astrology

> > > > > which

> > > > > > suggest that lord of 3rd,6th and 11th are always bad.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now there are many exceptional rules in astrology.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Consider this verse from UTTARA KALAAMRITA of KAALIDASA.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > DEBAADHEESH PUROHITASYA SAHAJANTYAADHEESHATA SANTATAM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RANDHRAADHEESHWARATAASTAMASTHIRAPY SYAADDYGA KRUDDEHINAAM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SASTHASTAHA SUBHAKRUT KABIHI SMARAGRAHAGHNYAMAANA STHITO

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RAAHURYOGA KARA STRUTEEYA NEELAYE KETUSTU YOGAPRADAH.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Meaning:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > if Jupiter happens to be the lord of 3rd and 12th he may

> cause

> > > yoga.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If he is the lord of 8th or is in the 8th house he may

> cause

> > > yoga.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also Venus in 6th,and Rahu in 7th ,4th,9th,10th and Ketu in

> 3rd

> > > are

> > > > > highly

> > > > > > Yogaprada .

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Perhaps there lies the supremacy and beauty of this divine

> > > science

> > > > > called

> > > > > > VEDIC ASROLOGY . which is perhaps more accurate than any

> science

> > > > > for it is

> > > > > > based not on human erring sensations but on the divine

> > > intuitions

> > > > > of Great

> > > > > > Rushis.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Gurudatta Dash

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > > > <valist>

> > > > > > Wednesday, May 25, 2005 4:54 PM

> > > > > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some

> obseravations

> > > on

> > > > > > retrograde plants

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaskar Gurudatta sahab,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If the guru is in lagna for a libra ascendant.then it is

> lord

> > > of

> > > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > and 6th house. and even then it is said a yoga karak for

> > > librans..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > kindly suggest me abt that ..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanks ...

> > > > > > > tarun..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > > > > > > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear sri Tarun

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Be absolutely sure that Jupiter in Lagna even when

> > > retrograde

> > > > > is an

> > > > > > > asset

> > > > > > > > and saves the native from many negatives , this is

> > > supported by

> > > > > > > ancient

> > > > > > > > authorities and confirmed by our experience. However

> the

> > > effect

> > > > > may

> > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > modified due its lordship and raasi in which the Lagna

> is .

> > > > > > > sometimes it may

> > > > > > > > become week to do good or stronger than direct.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For example if Lagna is cancer and the Jupiter is

> placed

> > > and if

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > lagan is

> > > > > > > > Capricorn with Jupiter the result would never be same.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RETROGRESSION being an additional bala , only modifies

> the

> > > > > effects

> > > > > > > but can

> > > > > > > > not change the nature of the planet.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Suppose a person is good & helping and he has 10 rupees

> with

> > > > > him,

> > > > > > > he could

> > > > > > > > help people with only 10 rupees , but if he has 100

> rupees

> > > his

> > > > > > > power of

> > > > > > > > doing good would surely increase.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now suppose a person is destructive and he has 10

> rupees, he

> > > > > would

> > > > > > > not help

> > > > > > > > any body for his nature is bad, instead he would

> utilize

> > > this

> > > > > > > amount for

> > > > > > > > negative purposes. Now if he has 100 rupees his power

> of

> > > evil

> > > > > > > would only

> > > > > > > > increase.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > so is the case with retrograde benefices and malefices.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Gurudatta Dash

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > > > > > <valist>

> > > > > > > > Saturday, May 21, 2005 8:05 PM

> > > > > > > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some

> > > obseravations

> > > > > on

> > > > > > > > retrograde plants

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > HEllo Gurudatta ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I read ur mail..and found a different opinion from

> the

> > > rest of

> > > > > > > > > astrologers,because many said that retro planets are

> > > maelefic

> > > > > even

> > > > > > > > > jupiter or venus or some else.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Like it is said if jupiter is in lagna and retro it

> > > creates

> > > > > > > problem

> > > > > > > > > to native in every field..

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > but u have a very strong point abt chesta bala..

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > tarun...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > > > > > > > > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > It is not that retrograde planets are always bad.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Infact retrograde planets are supposed to be

> powerful

> > > and

> > > > > there

> > > > > > > > > BALA is

> > > > > > > > > > known as CHESTA BALA . And when calculating the

> > > AYURDAAYA

> > > > > i. e .

> > > > > > > > > longevity

> > > > > > > > > > the points are doubled when the planet is in

> > > retrogression.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > But how the retrograde planets give results

> practically

> > > is a

> > > > > > > matter

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > controversy. Even certain Raajayogas are based on

> the

> > > > > > > retrogression

> > > > > > > > > of the

> > > > > > > > > > planet as the pivotal point.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > It is held that such planets give the opposite

> result

> > > as is

> > > > > > > expected

> > > > > > > > > > noramally because of its placement. i.e. such a

> planet

> > > in

> > > > > > > > > debilitation gives

> > > > > > > > > > the result as if exalted and when in exaltation or

> in

> > > own

> > > > > > > house in

> > > > > > > > > > retrogression ,- - quite ordinary result.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Some authorities say that benefices when retro

> become

> > > very

> > > > > > > > > auspicious and

> > > > > > > > > > malefic very malefic.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Also certain planets are ascribed specifics results

> when

> > > > > they

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > > > > e.g. Jupiter when retrograde--- the person becomes

> > > > > successful

> > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > peoples fail and losses good opportunities.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Venus is said to be give highly auspicious result

> in its

> > > > > dasa

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > bhukty

> > > > > > > > > > when retrograde.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > However as a general rule mars and Saturn when

> > > retrograde

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > considered to

> > > > > > > > > > be highly destructive and malefics.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In my horoscope Jupiter is retrograde and it gave

> quite

> > > > > > > auspicious

> > > > > > > > > result

> > > > > > > > > > even though it is in libra - enemy sign. Of course

> it

> > > is my

> > > > > 9 th

> > > > > > > > > lord and is

> > > > > > > > > > placed in 4th aspected by yogakaarak mars and in

> > > exchange

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > an

> > > > > > > > > exalted

> > > > > > > > > > Venus. Still I consider Jupiter in this particular

> case

> > > gave

> > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > result

> > > > > > > > > > partly due to its retrogression

> > > > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > "~~Tarun~~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > > > > > > > "Valist" <valist>; "jyotish

> > > remedies"

> > > > > > > > > > <>; "Vedic

> Adtrology"

> > > > > > > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:59 PM

> > > > > > > > > > Retrograde planet in lagna

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > hello learned members,,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > i wish to ask for opinion of the members,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > that if a planet is retrograde and placed in

> > > lagna...then

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > gives a

> > > > > > > > > > mentality or thinking in retro direction means like

> > > ketu or

> > > > > rahu

> > > > > > > > > are always

> > > > > > > > > > retro..(as what i know)...

> > > > > > > > > > > the same way...retro means backward...like we

> move a

> > > car

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > backward

> > > > > > > > > > direction and we see backward so that we dont hit

> any

> > > thing

> > > > > > > behind

> > > > > > > > > > > the same way a planet sees behind and its special

> > > drishti

> > > > > see

> > > > > > > > > behind

> > > > > > > > > > too..like saturn has 3rd and 10th aspect...and in

> retro

> > > it

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > count

> > > > > > > > > > backwards...means if it is placed in 12th house

> than its

> > > > > retro

> > > > > > > > > drishti will

> > > > > > > > > > be on planet placed in 10th house and so on....got

> it

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > and even if a nice planet like jupiter (big

> malefic

> > > for

> > > > > virgo

> > > > > > > > > even lord of

> > > > > > > > > > 4and 7th ...and yog karak for libra even lord of

> 3rd and

> > > > > 6th..)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > is in lagna and retro then the person will think

> like

> > > a

> > > > > > > > > retro ...as rahu

> > > > > > > > > > or ketu in lagna says the person will be

> crazy...means

> > > he

> > > > > > > dontknow

> > > > > > > > > right and

> > > > > > > > > > wrong ...if he is told something to do ...he can do

> > > > > > > it ...without

> > > > > > > > > thinking

> > > > > > > > > > it right or wrong...

> > > > > > > > > > > the same way the retro jupiter will effect ...the

> same

> > > > > > > way...being

> > > > > > > > > > spiritual but it will behave like ...ego......and

> > > > > thinks ...he

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > right but

> > > > > > > > > > he is wrong.....

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > at last i want to say that the retro jupiter in

> lagna

> > > > > will say

> > > > > > > > > that the

> > > > > > > > > > person will do sinful deeds or say negative things

> but

> > > he

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > think he is

> > > > > > > > > > right...

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > kindly tell me how much i have understood the

> topic.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > thanks

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thanks sir for giving me ur precious time

 

yes i wanna know that when I would meet Sadguru for my spririual

progress as well as jyotish

 

I have such a deepressive thoughts in my mind that i thought to leave

this world and become a sanyasini.

 

there is no one who love me I am so alone

 

Please guide me

what should I do to be in a normal state of mind?

 

valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

<gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> i am not able to properly comprehend your question. Whether you

want to know

> when you would meet Sadguru whose search is already on or you want

to know

> when you have proper spiritual siddhhi , kindly express in detail .

however

> your horoscope speaks well of your menatl conflict.

>

>

>

> Gurudatta Dash

>

> -

> "aug_sonia" <aug_sonia>

> <valist>

> Tuesday, May 31, 2005 12:37 PM

> Re: Retrograde planet in lagna

>

>

> > Thanks sir

> >

> > please tell me do i have a fortune to have blessings of a guru

> > my nirth details are

> >

> > DOB-23/08/1982

> > TOB-2:50AM

> > POB-DELHI

> >

> > ASC-GEMINI

> > RASI-VIRGO

> > valist, "Dr. Gurudatts Dash"

> > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > ---

> > > Dear Sonia,

> > >

> > > although there are several combinations which are said to answer

> > your question , to my mind it appears that when your heart

searches

> > and aspires intensely

> > > for Him , His KARUNAA or blessings are realized.

> > >

> > > Now who is Guru , he is none but the human face of the Divine .

> > >

> > > And what is astrology ( as we utilize now) -interpretation of

the

> > previous karmas through planets as they unfold there effects in

the

> > ladder of time.

> > >

> > > Now who is greater Divine or Karma? surely Divine is no way

bound

> > by the laws of karma.

> > > he is beyond every thing ..anything and everything you can

imagine

> > and not imagine.

> > > And planets have no power to define Him or understand Him

> > >

> > > so also Guru who can only be defined by the love and

aspirations of

> > the a sincere mind and a searching heart.

> > >

> > > Call Him like a child calls his mother and do not look towards

> > planets.. He would defy all the rules and Laws to manifest before

you.

> > >

> > > May His blessings be on you.

> > >

> > > Gurudatta Dash

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -- Original Message -----

> > > "aug_sonia" <aug_sonia>

> > > <valist>

> > > Friday, May 27, 2005 11:10 AM

> > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna

> > >

> > >

> > > > hello sir

> > > >

> > > > i m absolutely agree what you have said about how one can

become

> > a

> > > > good astrologer.

> > > > "hard work and mastering the classics, guru krupaa and matra

> > siddhi

> > > > are

> > > > 3

> > > > essential points of becoming a REAL ( as opposed to the false

> > ones who

> > > > claims themselves as astrologer but do not know ABC of

astrology)

> > > > jyotish."

> > > >

> > > > sir can we find out that when one can have guru kripa?

> > > >

> > > > which yogas and dashas in horoscopes tell us about this?

> > > >

> > > > Is transit also have any role in it.?

> > > >

> > > > Well sir my english is not good

> > > > but i hope u understood what i want to ask and also hope that

u

> > will

> > > > answer it.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > with regards

> > > > sonia

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

<gurudatta_d@h...>

> > wrote:

> > > > > Dear sri Tarun

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > when a natural benefic owns a Kendra he losses his power to

do

> > > > good. it is

> > > > > called KENDRAADHIPA DOSA. It is considered so evil that if

> > this

> > > > planet is

> > > > > afflicted otherwise then it can kill the native.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > when a natural malefic own a Kendra he ceased to be malefic.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > these are ordinary rules of Parashary system of astrology.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Kindly study Jaatak Chandrikaa , for the effects a planet

may

> > give

> > > > during

> > > > > its period.

> > > > >

> > > > > this book is otherwise known as Laghu Paraashari Or

Uddudaaya

> > > > pradeep. it is

> > > > > small book, but many of its verses are heard to crack and

have

> > been

> > > > greatly

> > > > > debated by great scholars. any one without mastering Jaatak

> > > > chandrikaa can

> > > > > never dreamt of becoming an astrologer.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > one surely can not become a good astrologer merely by

> > browising

> > > > the net

> > > > > where most transltions of the classics are full of errors.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > hard work and mastering the classics, guru krupaa and matra

> > siddhi

> > > > are 3

> > > > > essential points of becoming a REAL ( as opposed to the

false

> > ones

> > > > who

> > > > > claims themselves as astrologer but do not know ABC of

> > astrology)

> > > > jyotish.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > hoping that you would one day reach your desire goal.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Gurudatta Dash

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > > <valist>

> > > > > Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:43 AM

> > > > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Gurudatta sir,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > namaskar,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sir this is partiality of jyotish that jupiter is

considered

> > > > malefic

> > > > > > for virgo even lord of kendra and yog karak for libra even

> > lord of

> > > > > > 3rd and 6th.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sir it is true that since it doesnt lords over trikona so

it

> > is

> > > > > > considered malefic but this is really worst portion of

> > astrology i

> > > > > > think so..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks and regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tarun..

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ---

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > <gurudatta_d@h...>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear sri Tarun

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Kindly accept my Namaskar also.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For the reason lord of 3rd or 6th is considered evil ,

> > > > precisely

> > > > > > for the

> > > > > > > same reason , for Libra Lagna Jupiter is considered to

be

> > > > giving

> > > > > > yoga .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > that is RUSIVAAKYA- as per the dictum of the

authorities.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now I qote the exact verse from BHAVARTA RATNAKAR of SRI

> > > > > > RAMAANUYACHAARYA.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > TULALAGNE TU JAATASYA SANIRYOGADOBHABET.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > TRUTIYAA SASTHASTHAANOPI GURURYOGAPRADO BHABET.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The meaning is very simple, but for those who do not

know

> > > > Sanskrit,

> > > > > > > translated it reads

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For Libra ascendant Sani causes yoga. THOUGH lord of

3rd

> > and

> > > > 6th

> > > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > also becomes capable of producing yoga. Mark the

> > > > word 'THOUGH'..

> > > > > > Means he

> > > > > > > says that even if it is lord of evil houses, it would

cause

> > > > yoga.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Commenting on this verse , Dr, BV Raman says , that

Sani is

> > > > > > yogakaarak for

> > > > > > > Libra , is quite understandable *****Jupiter is the

lord of

> > 3rd

> > > > and

> > > > > > 6th and

> > > > > > > this particular case he is supposed to cause yoga for

> > simple

> > > > reason

> > > > > > that 3rd

> > > > > > > and 6th from Libra happens to be Upachaya signs and

hence

> > > > > > beneficial. But

> > > > > > > this combination is quite against the ordinary rules of

> > > > astrology

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > suggest that lord of 3rd,6th and 11th are always bad.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now there are many exceptional rules in astrology.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Consider this verse from UTTARA KALAAMRITA of KAALIDASA.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > DEBAADHEESH PUROHITASYA SAHAJANTYAADHEESHATA SANTATAM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RANDHRAADHEESHWARATAASTAMASTHIRAPY SYAADDYGA

KRUDDEHINAAM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > SASTHASTAHA SUBHAKRUT KABIHI SMARAGRAHAGHNYAMAANA STHITO

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RAAHURYOGA KARA STRUTEEYA NEELAYE KETUSTU YOGAPRADAH.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Meaning:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > if Jupiter happens to be the lord of 3rd and 12th he may

> > cause

> > > > yoga.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If he is the lord of 8th or is in the 8th house he may

> > cause

> > > > yoga.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also Venus in 6th,and Rahu in 7th ,4th,9th,10th and

Ketu in

> > 3rd

> > > > are

> > > > > > highly

> > > > > > > Yogaprada .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Perhaps there lies the supremacy and beauty of this

divine

> > > > science

> > > > > > called

> > > > > > > VEDIC ASROLOGY . which is perhaps more accurate than any

> > science

> > > > > > for it is

> > > > > > > based not on human erring sensations but on the divine

> > > > intuitions

> > > > > > of Great

> > > > > > > Rushis.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Gurudatta Dash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > > > > <valist>

> > > > > > > Wednesday, May 25, 2005 4:54 PM

> > > > > > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some

> > obseravations

> > > > on

> > > > > > > retrograde plants

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Namaskar Gurudatta sahab,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If the guru is in lagna for a libra ascendant.then it

is

> > lord

> > > > of

> > > > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > > and 6th house. and even then it is said a yoga karak

for

> > > > librans..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > kindly suggest me abt that ..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > thanks ...

> > > > > > > > tarun..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > > > > > > > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear sri Tarun

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Be absolutely sure that Jupiter in Lagna even when

> > > > retrograde

> > > > > > is an

> > > > > > > > asset

> > > > > > > > > and saves the native from many negatives , this is

> > > > supported by

> > > > > > > > ancient

> > > > > > > > > authorities and confirmed by our experience. However

> > the

> > > > effect

> > > > > > may

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > modified due its lordship and raasi in which the

Lagna

> > is .

> > > > > > > > sometimes it may

> > > > > > > > > become week to do good or stronger than direct.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > For example if Lagna is cancer and the Jupiter is

> > placed

> > > > and if

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > lagan is

> > > > > > > > > Capricorn with Jupiter the result would never be

same.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RETROGRESSION being an additional bala , only

modifies

> > the

> > > > > > effects

> > > > > > > > but can

> > > > > > > > > not change the nature of the planet.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Suppose a person is good & helping and he has 10

rupees

> > with

> > > > > > him,

> > > > > > > > he could

> > > > > > > > > help people with only 10 rupees , but if he has 100

> > rupees

> > > > his

> > > > > > > > power of

> > > > > > > > > doing good would surely increase.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now suppose a person is destructive and he has 10

> > rupees, he

> > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > not help

> > > > > > > > > any body for his nature is bad, instead he would

> > utilize

> > > > this

> > > > > > > > amount for

> > > > > > > > > negative purposes. Now if he has 100 rupees his

power

> > of

> > > > evil

> > > > > > > > would only

> > > > > > > > > increase.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > so is the case with retrograde benefices and

malefices.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Gurudatta Dash

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > > > > > > <valist>

> > > > > > > > > Saturday, May 21, 2005 8:05 PM

> > > > > > > > > Re: Retrograde planet in lagna-some

> > > > obseravations

> > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > retrograde plants

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > HEllo Gurudatta ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I read ur mail..and found a different opinion from

> > the

> > > > rest of

> > > > > > > > > > astrologers,because many said that retro planets

are

> > > > maelefic

> > > > > > even

> > > > > > > > > > jupiter or venus or some else.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Like it is said if jupiter is in lagna and retro

it

> > > > creates

> > > > > > > > problem

> > > > > > > > > > to native in every field..

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > but u have a very strong point abt chesta bala..

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > tarun...

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta

Dash"

> > > > > > > > > > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > It is not that retrograde planets are always

bad.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Infact retrograde planets are supposed to be

> > powerful

> > > > and

> > > > > > there

> > > > > > > > > > BALA is

> > > > > > > > > > > known as CHESTA BALA . And when calculating the

> > > > AYURDAAYA

> > > > > > i. e .

> > > > > > > > > > longevity

> > > > > > > > > > > the points are doubled when the planet is in

> > > > retrogression.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > But how the retrograde planets give results

> > practically

> > > > is a

> > > > > > > > matter

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > controversy. Even certain Raajayogas are based

on

> > the

> > > > > > > > retrogression

> > > > > > > > > > of the

> > > > > > > > > > > planet as the pivotal point.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > It is held that such planets give the opposite

> > result

> > > > as is

> > > > > > > > expected

> > > > > > > > > > > noramally because of its placement. i.e. such a

> > planet

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > debilitation gives

> > > > > > > > > > > the result as if exalted and when in exaltation

or

> > in

> > > > own

> > > > > > > > house in

> > > > > > > > > > > retrogression ,- - quite ordinary result.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Some authorities say that benefices when retro

> > become

> > > > very

> > > > > > > > > > auspicious and

> > > > > > > > > > > malefic very malefic.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Also certain planets are ascribed specifics

results

> > when

> > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > retrograde

> > > > > > > > > > > e.g. Jupiter when retrograde--- the person

becomes

> > > > > > successful

> > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > > peoples fail and losses good opportunities.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Venus is said to be give highly auspicious

result

> > in its

> > > > > > dasa

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > bhukty

> > > > > > > > > > > when retrograde.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > However as a general rule mars and Saturn when

> > > > retrograde

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > considered to

> > > > > > > > > > > be highly destructive and malefics.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In my horoscope Jupiter is retrograde and it

gave

> > quite

> > > > > > > > auspicious

> > > > > > > > > > result

> > > > > > > > > > > even though it is in libra - enemy sign. Of

course

> > it

> > > > is my

> > > > > > 9 th

> > > > > > > > > > lord and is

> > > > > > > > > > > placed in 4th aspected by yogakaarak mars and

in

> > > > exchange

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > an

> > > > > > > > > > exalted

> > > > > > > > > > > Venus. Still I consider Jupiter in this

particular

> > case

> > > > gave

> > > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > > result

> > > > > > > > > > > partly due to its retrogression

> > > > > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > "~~Tarun~~" <tarun_vst>

> > > > > > > > > > > "Valist" <valist>; "jyotish

> > > > remedies"

> > > > > > > > > > > <>; "Vedic

> > Adtrology"

> > > > > > > > > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:59 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > Retrograde planet in lagna

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > hello learned members,,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > i wish to ask for opinion of the members,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > that if a planet is retrograde and placed in

> > > > lagna...then

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > gives a

> > > > > > > > > > > mentality or thinking in retro direction means

like

> > > > ketu or

> > > > > > rahu

> > > > > > > > > > are always

> > > > > > > > > > > retro..(as what i know)...

> > > > > > > > > > > > the same way...retro means backward...like we

> > move a

> > > > car

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > backward

> > > > > > > > > > > direction and we see backward so that we dont

hit

> > any

> > > > thing

> > > > > > > > behind

> > > > > > > > > > > > the same way a planet sees behind and its

special

> > > > drishti

> > > > > > see

> > > > > > > > > > behind

> > > > > > > > > > > too..like saturn has 3rd and 10th aspect...and

in

> > retro

> > > > it

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > count

> > > > > > > > > > > backwards...means if it is placed in 12th house

> > than its

> > > > > > retro

> > > > > > > > > > drishti will

> > > > > > > > > > > be on planet placed in 10th house and so

on....got

> > it

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > and even if a nice planet like jupiter (big

> > malefic

> > > > for

> > > > > > virgo

> > > > > > > > > > even lord of

> > > > > > > > > > > 4and 7th ...and yog karak for libra even lord of

> > 3rd and

> > > > > > 6th..)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > is in lagna and retro then the person will

think

> > like

> > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > retro ...as rahu

> > > > > > > > > > > or ketu in lagna says the person will be

> > crazy...means

> > > > he

> > > > > > > > dontknow

> > > > > > > > > > right and

> > > > > > > > > > > wrong ...if he is told something to do ...he

can do

> > > > > > > > it ...without

> > > > > > > > > > thinking

> > > > > > > > > > > it right or wrong...

> > > > > > > > > > > > the same way the retro jupiter will

effect ...the

> > same

> > > > > > > > way...being

> > > > > > > > > > > spiritual but it will behave

like ...ego......and

> > > > > > thinks ...he

> > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > right but

> > > > > > > > > > > he is wrong.....

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > at last i want to say that the retro jupiter

in

> > lagna

> > > > > > will say

> > > > > > > > > > that the

> > > > > > > > > > > person will do sinful deeds or say negative

things

> > but

> > > > he

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > think he is

> > > > > > > > > > > right...

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > kindly tell me how much i have understood the

> > topic.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > tarun.....

> > > > > > > > > > > >

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