Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Dear sri Julian Swanson, The quote that benifics when retrograde become very auspicious and malefics more malefic is not from Parashar . it is from Kalyan Verma's Saravali. The exact verse when translated reads like this: "A benefic, if retrograde, is strong and is capable of conferring kingdom. If a malefic is retrograde, it causes grief and purposeless wandering." ( 5th chapter 39th verse). Infact Parashara or any ancients authorities of his age whose writings are available to us (let us remember that only a few of the great teachings are available now that too in imperfect form) have not dealt with the predictive aspect of vakra (retrograde) planets in much detail Kalyan Varma of all classical writers is the foremost who deals with retrograde planets in some what direct manner. While dealing with motional strength in the 4th chapter he says: The planet, that is victorious in war, that is in its retrograde motion, or, that is not combust become strong. The Luminaries get strength in northern course. This is how Satyacharya detailed motional strength. ( 4th chapter 36th verse) You can see that he quotes Satyacharya whom Varahamihir holds in great esteem in his Brihita jataka as the authority , but any of the available works of Satyachaarya do not speak much on Vakra planets. Again he says in 14th verse of 5th chapter: "If a planet is retrograde, while in exaltation, it produces no effect (nothing good will happen). This is the view held by some. Even, if it is in exaltation by its entry in retrograde motion from the next Sign (for example Jupiter entering Cancer from Leo), the effect is same, for it takes unduly long time in such traversion." Now to support his view that retrograde planets when malefic produce much evil. While discussing BAALAARISTA he says : "If Saturn is retrograde in a House of Mars, while Moon is in 6th, 8th, or an Angle and aspect Mars, the child born lives for two years." Some observations are made in Phaladeepikaa of MANTRESWARA regarding retrograde planets esp. in connection with the fact that retrograde planets act like exalted planets even when neecha or debilitated. Now great results are ascribed to Venus in his Dasa when retrograde: "VAKRAM GATSYAAPI BHRIGUSUTASYA DASAA BIPAAKE TWATI RAAJAPUJAA MRIDANGA BHERI RABAYUKTAJAANAM BICHITRABASTRAABHARANAANIRAAJYAM" MEANNING : In the period of retrograde Venus prestige and fame is acquired due to king ( government), various auspicious occasions happen and excellent vehicles , valuable fabrics and kingdom may be acquired. My personal experience is that retrograde sukra ( Venus) when otherwise not afflicted heavily gives very good results in its Dasa or bhukti regarding material prosperity . Your jyotish Guru is absolutely right when he observes retrograde planets are stronger than direct planets, and often they do have an internalizing effect. This can be both "good" and"bad" depending on the specific planetary significations, Now in PRASHNA ( horary) a malefic when retrograde becomes highly malefic and a benefic continues to behave a benefic , although they may make the process of achieving the object in view , a little erratic or evasive. Gurudatta Dash - "Juliana Swanson" <omhamsa <valist> Sunday, May 22, 2005 6:26 AM Re: Retrograde planets ARE CLOSER TO THE EARTH > Re: "Some authorities say that benefics when > retrograde become very auspicious and malefics very > malefic"...etc...I have heard this too...is this from > Parashara? > > As ancient astrologers made direct observations of the > heavenly bodies, so we modern star watchers should > also consider what is happening "up there" when we > analyze certain planetary influences. So many of us > are focused on computer screens instead of the > observable sky these days (mea culpa). > > As most of us know, a planet when retrograde is CLOSER > to the Earth than at any other time in its cycle, thus > usually making the planet much brighter than normal, > hence suggesting that the retrograde planet is > attempting to call our attention to something > important by making its appearance more visible. > > My Jyotish guru taught me that retrograde planets are > stronger than direct planets, and often they do have > an internalizing effect. This can be both "good" and > "bad" depending on the specific planetary > significations, right? > > For example, in a Capricorn Rising chart, Venus > retrograde in Capricorn is probably more auspicious > than for a Cancer Lagna with Venus retrograde in > Cancer. > > Best regards, > Juliana S. > > > > > > Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. > http://info.mail./mail_250 > > > > > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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