Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 hello learned members,, i wish to ask for opinion of the members, that if a planet is retrograde and placed in lagna...then it gives a mentality or thinking in retro direction means like ketu or rahu are always retro..(as what i know)... the same way...retro means backward...like we move a car in backward direction and we see backward so that we dont hit any thing behind the same way a planet sees behind and its special drishti see behind too..like saturn has 3rd and 10th aspect...and in retro it will count backwards...means if it is placed in 12th house than its retro drishti will be on planet placed in 10th house and so on....got it and even if a nice planet like jupiter (big malefic for virgo even lord of 4and 7th ...and yog karak for libra even lord of 3rd and 6th..) is in lagna and retro then the person will think like a retro ...as rahu or ketu in lagna says the person will be crazy...means he dontknow right and wrong ...if he is told something to do ...he can do it ...without thinking it right or wrong... the same way the retro jupiter will effect ...the same way...being spiritual but it will behave like ...ego......and thinks ...he is right but he is wrong..... at last i want to say that the retro jupiter in lagna will say that the person will do sinful deeds or say negative things but he will think he is right... kindly tell me how much i have understood the topic. thanks tarun..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Dear Rao Ji, Namaste, Thanks for the beautiful explanation what i had regarding the planetery theory. I m really now much less confused abt this theory, since i had also posted this mail in other forums thus i concluded that its like the electron and proton theory in chemistry...and as the electron gains or loses energy to change the orbit..the same way a planet does when changing its rashi...since it loses energy it may be said retro...and when in orbit it is said direct in motion... thanks alot for the wonderful explanation.. Tarun.. valist, rao chitturu <csr162002> wrote: > Mr.Tarun > You have to first to know thw astronomical phenomena about regtrogation. > Rahu and ketu are being shadows ( no physical existence) - They are in fact points of intersection of other planets - when other planets are moving forward they look like moving backward. > Regarding the retrogration of other planets - > Make sure that at any given time any planet travel in its own orbit in a forward motion with its regular speed, - Retrogration is an apparent phenomena - recollect the experiment of putting a rod in a glass with some water - below the level of water the road appears to have taken a bend - but in reality there is no bend - this is an apparent phenomena - > refer to the Keplars astronomical theory - planets orbit is in an oval shape around Sun- In an oval shape orbit at certain points when the object is moving the diataance from the central p oint - Sun - is more than other points. In ovel shape the distance from central point to other points differ. So whenever a planet is far off from the Sun 0 central poistion - it looks like retarded with refence to the Earth. So planets which are subject to retrogration (except luminaries) do apper like retarded at specific dostances and come back to direct motion on specific points ever time. > Here you can observe the distance from sun is more than that of normal times when the planet is in retrogation - So a retrograde planet get less exposed to Sun heat - so less combust - so it is more stronger than in normal times - So in Hindu astrology it is said a retrograde planet is more stronger - this is only as far as the stregnth is considered - (malefic / benefic nature is different to strength - malefic getting more strength - or benefic getting more strength is an individual case study) > As regards the strength of a retrograde planet - in Shadbalas - motional strength is attributed - > In explaining the retrograde postion is is expressed as going back and getting direct motion - In between there is a stagnation period also - the results mostly differ in transit results. > > As far as drishti (aspect) is considered - some are of the openion that they give the results of different houses - But it is not always correct - In querry mode - the interpretations are when a key planet is retrograde it gives the result when it takes direct motion - Mostly it applies to the strength and timing of event - but basically the signification of planet do not change - the lordship of bhava do not change - > Let us see in different systems - Hindu traditional astrology a span of 30 degrees of rasi is taken and in diviional charts also a span is taken - so retrograde planets motional strength ( as per shadbalal) is taken and in transit - retrograde / direct / stanation timing are taken into account - > in K.P.System ( developed from Hindu tradional system ) a planets psoition is taken as per its longitude - So no spna of any area is considered - planets sub ord, star lord and sign lord are considered for its strength and other significations - so the question of retrograde motion is ignored. > Much can be said like this when ever individual charts are dalt with. > If retrograde planet in ;agna - judge as per its connection to lagna sign. its lord , other aspects etc., by ensuring that the retrograde planet has more strength. > Make sure that no planet travel backward like a car - if so all of us go back to our child hood- > Sambasiva Rao > M.A.,(astrology) MBA., LL.B., CAIIB., > Hyderabad India tel +91-040-24046221 :: 9246586624 > > > ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst> wrote: > hello learned members,, > > i wish to ask for opinion of the members, > > that if a planet is retrograde and placed in lagna...then it gives a mentality or thinking in retro direction means like ketu or rahu are always retro..(as what i know)... > the same way...retro means backward...like we move a car in backward direction and we see backward so that we dont hit any thing behind > the same way a planet sees behind and its special drishti see behind too..like saturn has 3rd and 10th aspect...and in retro it will count backwards...means if it is placed in 12th house than its retro drishti will be on planet placed in 10th house and so on....got it > > and even if a nice planet like jupiter (big malefic for virgo even lord of 4and 7th ...and yog karak for libra even lord of 3rd and 6th..) > > is in lagna and retro then the person will think like a retro ...as rahu or ketu in lagna says the person will be crazy...means he dontknow right and wrong ...if he is told something to do ...he can do it ...without thinking it right or wrong... > the same way the retro jupiter will effect ...the same way...being spiritual but it will behave like ...ego......and thinks ...he is right but he is wrong..... > > at last i want to say that the retro jupiter in lagna will say that the person will do sinful deeds or say negative things but he will think he is right... > > kindly tell me how much i have understood the topic. > > thanks > > tarun..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > Mail > Stay connected, organized, and protected. 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Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Dear Rao Ji, Namaste, Thanks for the beautiful explanation what i had regarding the planetery theory. I m really now much less confused abt this theory, since i had also posted this mail in other forums thus i concluded that its like the electron and proton theory in chemistry...and as the electron gains or loses energy to change the orbit..the same way a planet does when changing its rashi...since it loses energy it may be said retro...and when in orbit it is said direct in motion... thanks alot for the wonderful explanation.. Tarun.. valist, rao chitturu <csr162002> wrote: > Mr.Tarun > You have to first to know thw astronomical phenomena about regtrogation. > Rahu and ketu are being shadows ( no physical existence) - They are in fact points of intersection of other planets - when other planets are moving forward they look like moving backward. > Regarding the retrogration of other planets - > Make sure that at any given time any planet travel in its own orbit in a forward motion with its regular speed, - Retrogration is an apparent phenomena - recollect the experiment of putting a rod in a glass with some water - below the level of water the road appears to have taken a bend - but in reality there is no bend - this is an apparent phenomena - > refer to the Keplars astronomical theory - planets orbit is in an oval shape around Sun- In an oval shape orbit at certain points when the object is moving the diataance from the central p oint - Sun - is more than other points. In ovel shape the distance from central point to other points differ. So whenever a planet is far off from the Sun 0 central poistion - it looks like retarded with refence to the Earth. So planets which are subject to retrogration (except luminaries) do apper like retarded at specific dostances and come back to direct motion on specific points ever time. > Here you can observe the distance from sun is more than that of normal times when the planet is in retrogation - So a retrograde planet get less exposed to Sun heat - so less combust - so it is more stronger than in normal times - So in Hindu astrology it is said a retrograde planet is more stronger - this is only as far as the stregnth is considered - (malefic / benefic nature is different to strength - malefic getting more strength - or benefic getting more strength is an individual case study) > As regards the strength of a retrograde planet - in Shadbalas - motional strength is attributed - > In explaining the retrograde postion is is expressed as going back and getting direct motion - In between there is a stagnation period also - the results mostly differ in transit results. > > As far as drishti (aspect) is considered - some are of the openion that they give the results of different houses - But it is not always correct - In querry mode - the interpretations are when a key planet is retrograde it gives the result when it takes direct motion - Mostly it applies to the strength and timing of event - but basically the signification of planet do not change - the lordship of bhava do not change - > Let us see in different systems - Hindu traditional astrology a span of 30 degrees of rasi is taken and in diviional charts also a span is taken - so retrograde planets motional strength ( as per shadbalal) is taken and in transit - retrograde / direct / stanation timing are taken into account - > in K.P.System ( developed from Hindu tradional system ) a planets psoition is taken as per its longitude - So no spna of any area is considered - planets sub ord, star lord and sign lord are considered for its strength and other significations - so the question of retrograde motion is ignored. > Much can be said like this when ever individual charts are dalt with. > If retrograde planet in ;agna - judge as per its connection to lagna sign. its lord , other aspects etc., by ensuring that the retrograde planet has more strength. > Make sure that no planet travel backward like a car - if so all of us go back to our child hood- > Sambasiva Rao > M.A.,(astrology) MBA., LL.B., CAIIB., > Hyderabad India tel +91-040-24046221 :: 9246586624 > > > ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst> wrote: > hello learned members,, > > i wish to ask for opinion of the members, > > that if a planet is retrograde and placed in lagna...then it gives a mentality or thinking in retro direction means like ketu or rahu are always retro..(as what i know)... > the same way...retro means backward...like we move a car in backward direction and we see backward so that we dont hit any thing behind > the same way a planet sees behind and its special drishti see behind too..like saturn has 3rd and 10th aspect...and in retro it will count backwards...means if it is placed in 12th house than its retro drishti will be on planet placed in 10th house and so on....got it > > and even if a nice planet like jupiter (big malefic for virgo even lord of 4and 7th ...and yog karak for libra even lord of 3rd and 6th..) > > is in lagna and retro then the person will think like a retro ...as rahu or ketu in lagna says the person will be crazy...means he dontknow right and wrong ...if he is told something to do ...he can do it ...without thinking it right or wrong... > the same way the retro jupiter will effect ...the same way...being spiritual but it will behave like ...ego......and thinks ...he is right but he is wrong..... > > at last i want to say that the retro jupiter in lagna will say that the person will do sinful deeds or say negative things but he will think he is right... > > kindly tell me how much i have understood the topic. > > thanks > > tarun..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > Mail > Stay connected, organized, and protected. 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