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Juliana,

 

I'm impressed by your depth of astrological knowledge aside from the

Vedic one. I need to catch up on the Illuminati group and

declination theory. It sounds like the Illuminati is some kind of

secret group like the Opus Dei of the Catholic Church, as depicted in

the Da Vinci Code.:)

 

There is another USA chart which was cognized by Yogi Karve and

endorsed by KN Rao. I believe the ascendant was Leo which puts

several planets on the rashi of Gemini, the 11th house of the chart.

However, this chart has not caught the acceptance of many jyotishis,

as far as I can tell.

 

If we used this chart for analysis, there is still another malefic

planet (Rahu) that will eventually transit its 22nd drekkana. So, in

either charts, there are indications of some notable event for the

USA.

 

I certainly hope that no major catastrophe happens in the USA. I was

thinking more of a minor adjustment that could affect the country and

the world as a whole. For example, a few days ago the Chairman of

the Federal Reserve Board (Greenspan) warned Congress that the

current national deficit cannot be sustained as this will create

inflation and would require an increase of the interest rates. By

the looks of it, the Republican controlled Congress will not move too

soon to address the deficit reduction measures. As such, this would

further compound the problem that Greenspan has identified.

 

Nature, nonetheless, has its own inscrutable way of changing the

trend of world events. So, we will soon find out in the coming

months how life in the USA and the world unfolds.

 

Thank you for posting those website addresses.

 

Namaste,

 

John R.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

valist, Juliana Swanson <omhamsa> wrote:

> Dear John and other list members,

>

> I am interested in your concerns re: Saturn's ingress

> into Cancer on May 26, 2005.

>

> I believe you were discussing the Kelleher USA chart

> with Mula Rising. We will know if this is the correct

> Lagna for the USA when transiting Pluto conjoins it in

> 2008-2009, as this may be an astrological event that

> would indicate a nuclear disaster.

>

> Your predictions for Saturn's crossing the 22nd

> drekkana of the Kelleher chart have also been noted on

> other forums, and it appears that many astrologers do

> agree wholeheartedly with your ideas. Astrologer Joni

> Patry has a lengthy discussion of these topics at her

> website:

> http://www.galacticcenter.org/2005_predictions.htm

> Joni apparently believes that July in particular could

> be a dangerous time for our President.

>

> During this coming transit of Saturn in Cancer, I

> believe we will see a phenomenal downturn in the real

> estate market and record numbers of mortgage

> foreclosures and homelessness in the United States,

> espcially as this transit will occur in the 8th

> house/6th from the Moon of the Kelleher chart.

>

> Many so-called conspiracy theorists believe that a

> coming economic collapse and homeless crisis is

> already planned and orchestrated by the Illuminati in

> their plan for One World Order. Their motto is ORDO AB

> CHAO--Order out of Chaos.

>

> There is another astrological event that may be of

> interest to some list members who study declination

> astrology, which involves the "Great Parallel of

> 2005-2006." Western astrologer and declination

> specialist Leigh Westin has discussed this extensively

> in the newsletter titled "The Other Dimension: NCGR

> Declination SIG Journal-Volume 9, No. 4." The address

> for the newsletter is c/o Martha Ramsey, 13050 West

> Cedar Dr., #13, Lakewood, CO 80228.

>

> The current Great Parallel involves the outer planets

> Neptune and Pluto, which (I know) are not used in

> traditional Vedic astrology. Like many Neo-Vedic

> astrologers, I do pay attention to them in world

> events, and in personal events when they are on angles

> or near personal planets.

>

> According to Leigh Westin, once a century, Neptune and

> Pluto "swing into synch as a parallel." Briefly, this

> current parallel of Neptune and Pluto is occurring

> near a declination power point, which means there will

> occur powerful events that involve large numbers of

> people, and these destined events (Neptune) "will

> destroy an old order opening a path for another

> (Pluto)".

>

> This great parallel was within orb at the time of the

> Sumatra earthquake and tsunami last December. Leigh

> says that the one EXACT parallel of the century

> between Neptune and Pluto will take place next Jan.

> 29, 2006, during a New Moon. Leigh does not argue that

> all tragedies and large losses of life occur during

> this particular parallel cycle, but that "historically

> when these two bodies are in parallel [and configured

> in a certain way which I do not have time to discuss

> here-but it is in Leigh's article], death of large

> populations tends to occur more frequently than not,

> often in the form of pandemics and epidemics...".

> Leigh discusses great plagues throughout history that

> have some correlation to the parallel cycles of

> Neptune and Pluto.

>

> I wonder if anyone has done other research into the

> possibility of a coming worldwide pandemic with the

> potential to wipe out large numbers of populations.

> Certainly it might make sense with the nodes in the

> axis of Virgo/Pisces (healing and purification).

> Certainly, with Saturn in Cancer, I am concerned that

> we will see more famine and pestilence than ever, as

> well as higher numbers of displaced and hungry

> families. I am concerned about our diminishing supply

> of clean water with Saturn in Cancer and Rahu in

> Pisces, which could certainly play a part in

> pandemics.

>

> Love and Light,

> Juliana S.

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Friends,

 

When you talk about the following, I have some comments:

 

> > During this coming transit of Saturn in Cancer, I

> > believe we will see a phenomenal downturn in the real

> > estate market and record numbers of mortgage

> > foreclosures and homelessness in the United States,

> > espcially as this transit will occur in the 8th

> > house/6th from the Moon of the Kelleher chart.

 

Please note that Saturn is supposed to be powerful in 6th from Moon or Lagna

(whether in transit or otherwise). Therefore it should give power to United

States - if the horoscope is correct. Problems to diplomats/diplomatic places

and all 5th house related things will be troubled. Especially around the

transit of Mars in Aries in July when both Saturn and Mars aspect each other -

This may be the reason of the prediction on President's life. Saturnine aspect

on the 2nd house of wealth and stock market should bring happiness rather than

gloom. Families coming together is another aspect that I see.

 

Yes, Saturn in Cancer will create general trouble especially regarding to famine

etc. but it should happen to mostly countries that has cancer or aries rising

charts or Moon has such connection to the 4th houses. The Tsunami happened

around the time when Saturn was retrograde and no benefic planet was aspected

positively besides the fact that both watery planets were under the spell of

dreadful mars.

 

Look forward to have your views. I am running out of time therefore in a hurry.

 

Regards,

Prakash

 

-

John <jr_esq

valist

Re: Future Prognostications- Juliana and all

Mon, 02 May 2005 06:37:55 -0000

 

>

> Juliana,

>

> I'm impressed by your depth of astrological knowledge aside from the

> Vedic one. I need to catch up on the Illuminati group and

> declination theory. It sounds like the Illuminati is some kind of

> secret group like the Opus Dei of the Catholic Church, as depicted in

> the Da Vinci Code.:)

>

> There is another USA chart which was cognized by Yogi Karve and

> endorsed by KN Rao. I believe the ascendant was Leo which puts

> several planets on the rashi of Gemini, the 11th house of the chart.

> However, this chart has not caught the acceptance of many jyotishis,

> as far as I can tell.

>

> If we used this chart for analysis, there is still another malefic

> planet (Rahu) that will eventually transit its 22nd drekkana. So, in

> either charts, there are indications of some notable event for the

> USA.

>

> I certainly hope that no major catastrophe happens in the USA. I was

> thinking more of a minor adjustment that could affect the country and

> the world as a whole. For example, a few days ago the Chairman of

> the Federal Reserve Board (Greenspan) warned Congress that the

> current national deficit cannot be sustained as this will create

> inflation and would require an increase of the interest rates. By

> the looks of it, the Republican controlled Congress will not move too

> soon to address the deficit reduction measures. As such, this would

> further compound the problem that Greenspan has identified.

>

> Nature, nonetheless, has its own inscrutable way of changing the

> trend of world events. So, we will soon find out in the coming

> months how life in the USA and the world unfolds.

>

> Thank you for posting those website addresses.

>

> Namaste,

>

> John R.

>

>

valist, Juliana Swanson <omhamsa> wrote:

> > Dear John and other list members,

> >

> > I am interested in your concerns re: Saturn's ingress

> > into Cancer on May 26, 2005.

> >

> > I believe you were discussing the Kelleher USA chart

> > with Mula Rising. We will know if this is the correct

> > Lagna for the USA when transiting Pluto conjoins it in

> > 2008-2009, as this may be an astrological event that

> > would indicate a nuclear disaster.

> >

> > Your predictions for Saturn's crossing the 22nd

> > drekkana of the Kelleher chart have also been noted on

> > other forums, and it appears that many astrologers do

> > agree wholeheartedly with your ideas. Astrologer Joni

> > Patry has a lengthy discussion of these topics at her

> > website:

> > http://www.galacticcenter.org/2005_predictions.htm

> > Joni apparently believes that July in particular could

> > be a dangerous time for our President.

> >

> > During this coming transit of Saturn in Cancer, I

> > believe we will see a phenomenal downturn in the real

> > estate market and record numbers of mortgage

> > foreclosures and homelessness in the United States,

> > espcially as this transit will occur in the 8th

> > house/6th from the Moon of the Kelleher chart. Many so-called

> > conspiracy theorists believe that a

> > coming economic collapse and homeless crisis is

> > already planned and orchestrated by the Illuminati in

> > their plan for One World Order. Their motto is ORDO AB

> > CHAO--Order out of Chaos. There is another astrological event that may be of

> > interest to some list members who study declination

> > astrology, which involves the "Great Parallel of

> > 2005-2006." Western astrologer and declination

> > specialist Leigh Westin has discussed this extensively

> > in the newsletter titled "The Other Dimension: NCGR

> > Declination SIG Journal-Volume 9, No. 4." The address

> > for the newsletter is c/o Martha Ramsey, 13050 West

> > Cedar Dr., #13, Lakewood, CO 80228.

> >

> > The current Great Parallel involves the outer planets

> > Neptune and Pluto, which (I know) are not used in

> > traditional Vedic astrology. Like many Neo-Vedic

> > astrologers, I do pay attention to them in world

> > events, and in personal events when they are on angles

> > or near personal planets.

> >

> > According to Leigh Westin, once a century, Neptune and

> > Pluto "swing into synch as a parallel." Briefly, this

> > current parallel of Neptune and Pluto is occurring

> > near a declination power point, which means there will

> > occur powerful events that involve large numbers of

> > people, and these destined events (Neptune) "will

> > destroy an old order opening a path for another

> > (Pluto)". This great parallel was within orb at the time of the

> > Sumatra earthquake and tsunami last December. Leigh

> > says that the one EXACT parallel of the century

> > between Neptune and Pluto will take place next Jan.

> > 29, 2006, during a New Moon. Leigh does not argue that

> > all tragedies and large losses of life occur during

> > this particular parallel cycle, but that "historically

> > when these two bodies are in parallel [and configured

> > in a certain way which I do not have time to discuss

> > here-but it is in Leigh's article], death of large

> > populations tends to occur more frequently than not,

> > often in the form of pandemics and epidemics...".

> > Leigh discusses great plagues throughout history that

> > have some correlation to the parallel cycles of

> > Neptune and Pluto.

> >

> > I wonder if anyone has done other research into the

> > possibility of a coming worldwide pandemic with the

> > potential to wipe out large numbers of populations.

> > Certainly it might make sense with the nodes in the

> > axis of Virgo/Pisces (healing and purification).

> > Certainly, with Saturn in Cancer, I am concerned that

> > we will see more famine and pestilence than ever, as

> > well as higher numbers of displaced and hungry

> > families. I am concerned about our diminishing supply

> > of clean water with Saturn in Cancer and Rahu in

> > Pisces, which could certainly play a part in

> > pandemics.

> >

> > Love and Light,

> > Juliana S.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Links

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

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