Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Shabnam, The US birth data, as rectified by James Kelleher, are as follows: 18:30:00 hours ST Time Zone: 5 July 4, 1776 Philadelphia, PA 75W10 39N57 According to KN Rao, people born in the nakshatra of Mula tend to get into accidents. I don't know if this would apply to countries too. Regards, John R. valist, "Bioacoustics" <bioacoustics@b...> wrote: > Dear Ashutosh, > > In view of what you say below, please comment on the posible effects of > Mars, during its over 6 months loooong transit in Aries, from 18th July 05 > until 4th Feb 06. > > John, please would you post the Long & Lat of the USA chart as I get 7°Sag > 53 min with Washington DC. I must be using the wrong city. > > With USA lagna in Mula, Niritti the Goddess of destruction becomes its > presiding deity & Ketu the ruling planet & according to David Frawley, Mula > is the point thru which the Galactic Sun shines on, in this case the USA. > What could all this mean ? > > Hari Om. > > Shabnam > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: valist [valist]Im Auftrag > von Astrologer Ashutosh > Gesendet: Sonntag, 1. Mai 2005 08:24 > An: valist > Betreff: Re: Future and On Prasna-Dear Ashutosh, Dawn, John, and > other members > > > Dear Juliana, > You have very beautifully analysed the prashna chart. > Thanks a lot. My thoughts were also centered around the two main > protagonists in the war-drama being played worldwide. Bush Jr and Osama. > Bush is a trigger happy person who is in constant search for a pretext to go > to war. But, his horoscope has the same assasination-yogas which was there > in horoscopes of the three popular Indian leaders who were assasinated > namely- Mahatma Gandhi, Indira Gandhi and Rajeev Gandhi. > There is a possibility that a female assasin will attack Bush while > saturn transits cancer. Mars in retrogration in Bush's tenth house can only > increase his desires for valorous acts. His horoscope was published in an > Indian newspaper soon after he was elected for the first time. I had noticed > the moon-jupiter combination in third house and had predicted that he will > go to war before the end of his first year of presidency. It is common > knowledge that any govt formed by a small margin of vote is unstable and > wants a war to gain public support. It happened in India with Kargil war and > in US by 9-11. In both cases intelligence failure was cited as the root > cause. But, if there is no desire to act on intelligence inputs, all > intelligence will surely fail. > Being an Indian, my thoughts are more India-oriented. Pakistan has > Aries ascendent while India has taurus. With mars in aries and saturn in > cancer (Pakistan's president Musharraf has mars in aries in his natal chart > in eighth house) the relations between both countries cannot be worse. The > recent cricket diplomacy is bound to fail. > Remember, saturn in cancer has already caused Tsunami devastation. > There is still more to come in next two and half years. The combination of > mars and saturn is good for technological advancements but we should not > forget that most and fastest technogical advancements take place when > nations are at war. > Your prashna techniques are superb. It feels good to exchange > thoughts with good astrologers like you. > > Ashutosh. > > > > > > - > Juliana Swanson <omhamsa> > <valist> > Saturday, April 30, 2005 06:29 > Re: Future and On Prasna-Dear Ashutosh, Dawn, John, and other > members > > > > Dear Ashutosh and other List Members... > > > > Thank you for sharing this interesting _Mahabarata_ > > story with your astrological musings. I believe your > > Prasna question was "In the near future (the next 8 > > months?), are we due for another nuclear attack > > similar to what occurred in 1945?" > > > > Testing the chart for validity first, we need to see > > if the Lagna "fits" the question, which is called a > > test for radicality in Western Horary but I do not > > know what this "test" is called in Prasna Tantra. > > > > I suppose Gemini speaks to your curiosity in asking > > this question, and Gemini is the sign related to air > > travel and thus, nuclear missiles. We also need to ask > > if the Moon relates to the question on your mind...it > > is in Sagittarius aspecting the 1st house, and this is > > the sign that relates to implements of war, and the > > 7th house also relates to war. > > > > The planet that the Moon last transited over is also > > important to determine radicality-I believe it was > > Pluto, one of the planets that relates to nuclear > > devices, so I think we have a radical (valid) prasna > > and can go further. > > > > Your intention in asking is sincere in that we have > > the lord of the 7th, Jupiter in mutual exchange with > > the lord of the chart, Mercury. However, with Saturn > > in the 1st house, I wonder if there is a slight > > problem in the interpretation of this chart because > > the question was not stated clearly or specifically > > enough? > > > > Some say with Saturn or Pluto (Pluto in this case) in > > the 7th house, the astrologer is limited in answering > > the question. > > > > Saturn as the same degree (different rasi) as much > > greater than we are. > > > > The Gemini ascendant may indicate an unstable > > situation, which we know is true, as the news tonight > > was blasting fear about North Korea's nuclear missile > > program again. > > > > Prasna Tantra has many rules for specific questions > > about war, but your question is so general that it is > > hard for me to pin down which house to use for the > > quesited (war). It can probably be the 6th or 8th. > > > > Just using very basic Tajika principles, the querent > > is the Lagna Lord Mercury at 18 degrees Pisces, and > > the quesited is Mars as karyesha of the 6th house of > > war in this Prasna chart. Mars is at 5 degrees > > Aquarius, and the two planets are in 2/12 semisextile > > but they are not within orb (they need to be about 7.5 > > degrees deepthamsa) so there is no aspect and the > > answer would be no. If we use the lord of the 8th as > > the quesited, this is Saturn which is squaring Mercury > > (the querent) but again not in orb, so the answer > > would be no. > > > > I looked to see if there is Yamaya Yoga using the > > outer planet Uranus, significator of sudden conflicts, > > which is formed when there is no aspect between the > > two lords in question and a slower moving planet is in > > between them and aspecting them, but Uranus is not > > within orb of Mars, so again I get a resounding "no." > > > > Your omens were very clearly speaking about death, and > > this is a conflict that I cannot reconcile except to > > say they were matching your question and the deepest > > fear of humanity into which you were tapping by > > looking into this historical data and by asking this > > question. Omens do not always mean "yes" or "no." > > Sometimes, they just reflect our consciousness at the > > time of the question. > > > > I am certainly not an expert on Prasna so I welcome > > anyone else's comments and suggestions. > > > > One other thing about omens I wanted to share > > happened to me when I was receiving an astrological > > reading in a hotel room a few years ago. My astrologer > > asked in a very compelling voice, "Why are you not > > giving more professional astrological readings than > > the few here and there that you are doing?" At that > > moment mild chaos broke out when someone knocked at > > the door (wrong room), a friend rang my room, another > > friend came to the door to see if I wanted to take a > > walk, my son called, then my husband, etc, etc., all > > within a 5 minute period! All those interruptions > > mirrored the myriad interruptions I had been > > experiencing in my life during that period, which were > > preventing me from focusing on a full-time > > professional practice. > > > > Best, > > Juliana S. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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