Guest guest Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Hello dear Smita, Hare Krishna. It is very important that one must wear the gem stones only at auspicious time. As soon as you have all these stones put in a pendent and ready to wear, please let me know which place you live and I shall advise you the appropriate time accordingly. Yes, Blue Sapphire 4.65 carat or above, same weight for Yellow Sapphire, Ruby and Emerald, Diamond 1 carat or a good quality Zircon 10 carat. If you are using substitude, the weight has to be more which please note. He has no problem wearing Blue Sapphire. Saturn being debilitated and combusted operating with weak combusted Mercury in the 9h of Mars controlling fortune needs to be strengthened because strong malefic unafflicted MOON occupies the weak 7h of Saturn which can harm both your health and happiness. However, a strong aspect of Mars to Moon does pacify the malefic effects of MOON. Any way carry on the propitiatory measurers for the malefics MOON, Rahu and Ketu as advised earlier, and the strengthening measurers for the better result. As you wrote that he has Ruby and Blue Sapphire, if the weight is correct and in a ring form, hopefully gold, I can work out to give you the auspicious time as soon as you let me know which place your husband lives and he can also begin to propitiate the malefics MOON, Rahu and Ketu. He should remove all the stones and wear it again on elected auspicious time. Hari BOL. With my best wishes..............AMAR PURI. >"smita_agarwall" <smita_agarwall >valist >valist >Re: Mr. Himanshu Mohan, Mr. Patrice Curry, Mr. Amar >Tue, 08 Mar 2005 20:50:55 -0000 > > > >Thank you, Mr Puri. I humbly and very thankfully accept your advice. >He is already wearing a ruby for surya. He also has a blue sapphire, >but I dont know whether that would be suitable for him? For Venus, a >diamond, and for Jupiter a yellow sapphire, will be required. Of what >carat and quality would you advise? As advised, we will go in for the >purchase of Emerald after April 18th. Also as mentioned, may I awrite >to you to ask about the auspicious time in wearing the gems? > >God bless. > >Warm regards > >Smita. > >valist, "fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...> >wrote: > > Hello dear Smita, > > > > Hare Krishna. > > > > Further to my earlier email, your husband must propitiate most >malefic MOON, > > Rahu and Ketu as follows ; > > > > 1. He must serve his parents-in-law and take the blessing from >both of > > them. He can help to the needy poor women (elderly people) which >ever way > > possible. He must not argue/fight with his spouse. > > > > 2. Feed and offer fresh water to the birds and the stray dogs every >days. > > > > 3. He must avoid wearing white, all types of grey and dull brown >clothes. > > > > 4. He can wear corresponding gem stones to strengthen the weak >benefic > > planets SUN - SATURN, JUPITER, VENUS AND MERCURY. His Mercury >period is > > starting April 18, next month and can wear Emerald 5 carats in gold >on an > > elected auspicious time. You can write to me when he is ready to >wear the > > stones and I shall give you the auspicious time to wear the gem. > > > > May Lord Shri Krishna bless you and your husband. > > > > With my best wishes.................AMAR PURI. > > > > >"smita_agarwall" <smita_agarwall> > > >valist > > >valist > > >Mr. Himanshu Mohan, Mr. Patrice Curry, Mr. Amar > > >Tue, 08 Mar 2005 06:50:18 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > >My humble thanks to all of you for taking the time to study my > > >husbands chart. > > > > > >He is a gem of a human being, kind, generous to a fault, >understanding > > >and caring. From a long time now, he has been under a negative >cloud, > > >one that is sapping his mental strength and energies. Being stabbed >in > > >the back by the very same people he went out of his way to help, he >is > > >also becoming very bitter and cynical about life, something thats > > >against his natural grain. > > > > > >"I would like to remind you not always to be in a hurry for "being > > >ready to pay" since the best things in this life are still free. > > >In particular in this field of astrology and palmistry etc., > > > > > >The only reason I offered to pay was that I did not wish to be a > > >freeloader in these forums. > > >And my desperation must have come through, because I love my >husband > > >dearly and would love to see him mentally at peace and happy for a >change. > > > > > >"It is ironical that the fees charged do not assure commensurate > > >service or accuracy of prediction" > > > > > >So very true. This is something which I have experienced most of >the time. > > > > > >My sincere and humble thanks once again for all the advice given. >He > > >is already wearing a ruby and we will work out a schedule to > > >propitiate Surya. > > > > > >I would welcome any further advice to strengthen his chart and in >case > > >anything strikes you, I will remain very obliged if you could share > > >the same. > > > > > >God bless. > > > > > >With warm regards > > > > > >Smita. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 Dear Amar Puri, I'm sure you're aware that, as Saturn and Sun are natural enemies, B.Sapphire and Ruby should never be worn together. This is a basic rule that all qualified PGA's (planetary gem advisors) should be aware of. Prescribing gems carries a huge responsibility as undoubtedly they have a significant effect. The first rule of thumb should always be "When in doubt don't". Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com/gems.htm ____________________ valist, "fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...> wrote: Hello dear Smita, Hare Krishna. It is very important that one must wear the gem stones only at auspicious time. As soon as you have all these stones put in a pendent and ready to wear, please let me know which place you live and I shall advise you the appropriate time accordingly. Yes, Blue Sapphire 4.65 carat or above, same weight for Yellow Sapphire, Ruby and Emerald, Diamond 1 carat or a good quality Zircon 10 carat. If you are using substitude, the weight has to be more which please note. He has no problem wearing Blue Sapphire. Saturn being debilitated and combusted operating with weak combusted Mercury in the 9h of Mars controlling fortune needs to be strengthened because strong malefic unafflicted MOON occupies the weak 7h of Saturn which can harm both your health and happiness. However, a strong aspect of Mars to Moon does pacify the malefic effects of MOON. Any way carry on the propitiatory measurers for the malefics MOON, Rahu and Ketu as advised earlier, and the strengthening measurers for the better result. As you wrote that he has Ruby and Blue Sapphire, if the weight is correct and in a ring form, hopefully gold, I can work out to give you the auspicious time as soon as you let me know which place your husband lives and he can also begin to propitiate the malefics MOON, Rahu and Ketu. He should remove all the stones and wear it again on elected auspicious time. Hari BOL. With my best wishes..............AMAR PURI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 Mrs. Wendy, You are so right. By strengthening two mutually enemical planets one will get null effects. To my understanding, no planet is weak or strong but it gives either negative or positive results. It is like having nine children in a class out of whom some are disciplined, obedient and intelligent, while some are naughty, disobedient and poor in studies. If you have to give monitoring powers and authority to some of them, would you chose the good student or the bad one. The gems give powers to planetary influences in our horoscopes. Therefore, I suggested red coral to smita instead of blue sapphire and ruby. Ashutosh. - Wendy Vasicek <wenvas <valist> Cc: <jyotish-vidya> Monday, March 14, 2005 09:34 RE: Auspicious time......... > > Dear Amar Puri, > > I'm sure you're aware that, as Saturn and Sun are natural enemies, > B.Sapphire and Ruby should never be worn together. This is a basic > rule that all qualified PGA's (planetary gem advisors) should be > aware of. > > Prescribing gems carries a huge responsibility as undoubtedly they > have a significant effect. The first rule of thumb should always be > "When in doubt don't". > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com/gems.htm > ____________________ > > valist, "fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...> > wrote: > > Hello dear Smita, > > Hare Krishna. > > It is very important that one must wear the gem stones only at > auspicious > time. As soon as you have all these stones put in a pendent and > ready to > wear, please let me know which place you live and I shall advise > you the > appropriate time accordingly. > > Yes, Blue Sapphire 4.65 carat or above, same weight for Yellow > Sapphire, > Ruby and Emerald, Diamond 1 carat or a good quality Zircon 10 > carat. If > you are using substitude, the weight has to be more which please > note. > > He has no problem wearing Blue Sapphire. Saturn being debilitated > and > combusted operating with weak combusted Mercury in the 9h of Mars > controlling fortune needs to be strengthened because strong malefic > unafflicted MOON occupies the weak 7h of Saturn which can harm both > your > health and happiness. However, a strong aspect of Mars to Moon does > pacify > the malefic effects of MOON. Any way carry on the propitiatory > measurers > for the malefics MOON, Rahu and Ketu as advised earlier, and the > strengthening measurers for the better result. > > As you wrote that he has Ruby and Blue Sapphire, if the weight is > correct > and in a ring form, hopefully gold, I can work out to give you the > auspicious time as soon as you let me know which place your husband > lives > and he can also begin to propitiate the malefics MOON, Rahu and > Ketu. > He should remove all the stones and wear it again on elected > auspicious > time. > > Hari BOL. > > With my best wishes..............AMAR PURI. > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Dear Ashutosh, Yes, you're correct. YogaKaraka Mars has the auspicious 9th bhava (solutions to problems, good-fortune, providence etc) as his moolatrikona sign and, if I'm not mistaken, occupying 10th from Moon (the only planet he aspects) his influence is as a friend. Life can be much smoother with the help of friends...we should be careful not to strengthen the influence of enemies. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com valist, "Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh> wrote: Mrs. Wendy, You are so right. By strengthening two mutually enemical planets one will get null effects. To my understanding, no planet is weak or strong but it gives either negative or positive results. It is like having nine children in a class out of whom some are disciplined, obedient and intelligent, while some are naughty, disobedient and poor in studies. If you have to give monitoring powers and authority to some of them, would you chose the good student or the bad one. The gems give powers to planetary influences in our horoscopes. Therefore, I suggested red coral to smita instead of blue sapphire and ruby. Ashutosh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Dear Wendy and Ashutosh, Hare Krishna. Smita's husband has been wearing Ruby and blue Sapphire long before without any negative side effects beside as per SA., SUN and Saturn are functional benefic planets for the Leo Asdt. of her husband's horoscope. Since Sun and Saturn are functional benefic but weak, therefore, strengthening is required. Mars is another benefic planet but strong and well placed in his own house unafflicted. Thus, it is not necessary to strengthen Mars. Hope it helps. Hari BOL. OM TAT SAT. With my best wishes and regards..........AMAR PURI. >"Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh >valist ><valist> >Re: RE: Auspicious time......... >Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:47:23 +0530 > > >Mrs. Wendy, > You are so right. By strengthening two mutually >enemical >planets one will get null effects. To my understanding, no planet is weak >or >strong but it gives either negative or positive results. It is like having >nine children in a class out of whom some are disciplined, obedient and >intelligent, while some are naughty, disobedient and poor in studies. If >you >have to give monitoring powers and authority to some of them, would you >chose the good student or the bad one. The gems give powers to planetary >influences in our horoscopes. Therefore, I suggested red coral to smita >instead of blue sapphire and ruby. > >Ashutosh. > > > >- >Wendy Vasicek <wenvas ><valist> >Cc: <jyotish-vidya> >Monday, March 14, 2005 09:34 >RE: Auspicious time......... > > > > > > Dear Amar Puri, > > > > I'm sure you're aware that, as Saturn and Sun are natural enemies, > > B.Sapphire and Ruby should never be worn together. This is a basic > > rule that all qualified PGA's (planetary gem advisors) should be > > aware of. > > > > Prescribing gems carries a huge responsibility as undoubtedly they > > have a significant effect. The first rule of thumb should always be > > "When in doubt don't". > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com/gems.htm > > ____________________ > > > > valist, "fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...> > > wrote: > > > > Hello dear Smita, > > > > Hare Krishna. > > > > It is very important that one must wear the gem stones only at > > auspicious > > time. As soon as you have all these stones put in a pendent and > > ready to > > wear, please let me know which place you live and I shall advise > > you the > > appropriate time accordingly. > > > > Yes, Blue Sapphire 4.65 carat or above, same weight for Yellow > > Sapphire, > > Ruby and Emerald, Diamond 1 carat or a good quality Zircon 10 > > carat. If > > you are using substitude, the weight has to be more which please > > note. > > > > He has no problem wearing Blue Sapphire. Saturn being debilitated > > and > > combusted operating with weak combusted Mercury in the 9h of Mars > > controlling fortune needs to be strengthened because strong malefic > > unafflicted MOON occupies the weak 7h of Saturn which can harm both > > your > > health and happiness. However, a strong aspect of Mars to Moon does > > pacify > > the malefic effects of MOON. Any way carry on the propitiatory > > measurers > > for the malefics MOON, Rahu and Ketu as advised earlier, and the > > strengthening measurers for the better result. > > > > As you wrote that he has Ruby and Blue Sapphire, if the weight is > > correct > > and in a ring form, hopefully gold, I can work out to give you the > > auspicious time as soon as you let me know which place your husband > > lives > > and he can also begin to propitiate the malefics MOON, Rahu and > > Ketu. > > He should remove all the stones and wear it again on elected > > auspicious > > time. > > > > Hari BOL. > > > > With my best wishes..............AMAR PURI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Hello dear Wendy, Hare Krishna. The basic rules depond upon the functional nature (Benefic or Malefic) of the planets in the given chart. All Planets have a role to play according to their placement in the natal chart. I have explained clearly the nature and the placement of planets in the chart of Smita's husband as indicated below your message. Hope it helps. Hari BOL. OM TAT SAT. With my best wishes and regards........ AMAR PURI. >"Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas >valist ><valist> >CC: <jyotish-vidya> >RE: Auspicious time......... >Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:04:51 +0800 > > >Dear Amar Puri, > >I'm sure you're aware that, as Saturn and Sun are natural enemies, >B.Sapphire and Ruby should never be worn together. This is a basic >rule that all qualified PGA's (planetary gem advisors) should be >aware of. > >Prescribing gems carries a huge responsibility as undoubtedly they >have a significant effect. The first rule of thumb should always be >"When in doubt don't". > >Best Wishes, >Mrs. Wendy >http://JyotishVidya.com/gems.htm >____________________ > >valist, "fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...> >wrote: > >Hello dear Smita, > >Hare Krishna. > >It is very important that one must wear the gem stones only at >auspicious >time. As soon as you have all these stones put in a pendent and >ready to >wear, please let me know which place you live and I shall advise >you the >appropriate time accordingly. > >Yes, Blue Sapphire 4.65 carat or above, same weight for Yellow >Sapphire, >Ruby and Emerald, Diamond 1 carat or a good quality Zircon 10 >carat. If >you are using substitude, the weight has to be more which please >note. > >He has no problem wearing Blue Sapphire. Saturn being debilitated >and >combusted operating with weak combusted Mercury in the 9h of Mars >controlling fortune needs to be strengthened because strong malefic >unafflicted MOON occupies the weak 7h of Saturn which can harm both >your >health and happiness. However, a strong aspect of Mars to Moon does >pacify >the malefic effects of MOON. Any way carry on the propitiatory >measurers >for the malefics MOON, Rahu and Ketu as advised earlier, and the >strengthening measurers for the better result. > >As you wrote that he has Ruby and Blue Sapphire, if the weight is >correct >and in a ring form, hopefully gold, I can work out to give you the >auspicious time as soon as you let me know which place your husband >lives >and he can also begin to propitiate the malefics MOON, Rahu and >Ketu. >He should remove all the stones and wear it again on elected >auspicious >time. > >Hari BOL. > >With my best wishes..............AMAR PURI. Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Hi Dear Wendy, Nice to see you on this chart and giving your thoughts on gem recommendation. I had hoped for you to see the correspondence going on and could give your thoughts on this, many thanks. Interesting regarding strengthening Mars, and I see your thoughts and reasoning here. It's interesting also in seeing that Mars aspect onto Moon here is positive due to this Mars in this chart. I would not have thought of it in this way just due to it being Mars himself and this is enlightening for me to see this here. Separately, I'm guessing you did see my mails referring to you on this. For my understanding and learning more regarding strengthening with gems, what are your thoughts on the fact that Sun is such a strong significator of both 1st and 8th houses in this chart? Is this involving 8th house something that would stop you from using a gem for Sun although lord of this 1H Leo? This is really a general question in coming to understand the use of gems and in this chart there's such a perfect opportunity for really understanding this, being first it is the Sun here and in gandanta, and then even lord of 1H... and then this definite connection here with the 8th. Sweet wishes, Patrice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Dear Amar, I'm wondering here about the thoughts that he hasn't experienced any negative side effects by wearing these gems. From all Smita has written on the extreme difficulties he's been going through for over a year and her reasons for writing to the list during this time although he was wearing these gems. Also what she has mentioned regarding his thinking being out of his natural character, becoming bitter.. etc.. Best wishes, Patrice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Dear Amar, I forgot to include in this the references below - sorry. I sent this originally to the wrong list and then forgot to copy the references when sending it finally here. Kindest regards, Patrice I'm wondering here about the thoughts that he hasn't experienced any negative side effects by wearing these gems. From all Smita has written on the extreme difficulties he's been going through for over a year and her reasons for writing to the list during this time although he was wearing these gems. Also what she has mentioned regarding his thinking being out of his natural character, becoming bitter.. etc.. _____________ Smita's husband has been wearing Ruby and blue Sapphire long before without any negative side effects beside as per SA., SUN and Saturn are functional benefic planets for the Leo Asdt. of her husband's horoscope. _____ As it appears that her husband has been wearing the Ruby ring for some time, if I am not mistaken. So, Ruby is not giving any bad effect as you might have thought of otherwise. Smita: >He is a gem of a human being, kind, generous to a fault, understanding >and caring. From a long time now, he has been under a negative cloud, >one that is sapping his mental strength and energies. Being stabbed in >the back by the very same people he went out of his way to help, he is >also becoming very bitter and cynical about life, something thats >against his natural grain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Dear Patrice, Wearing gemstones for mutually enemical planets will give zero effect to the native because both the gems will weaken each other's effects. It is similar to drinking hot coffee and cold water at the same time. Thats why neither positive nor negative effects were seen on wearing both ruby and sapphire. Ashutosh. - Patrice Curry <patricecurry <valist> Tuesday, March 15, 2005 00:38 Re: RE: Auspicious time......... > > Dear Amar, > > I forgot to include in this the references below - sorry. I sent this > originally to the wrong list and then forgot to copy the references when > sending it finally here. > > Kindest regards, > Patrice > > I'm wondering here about the thoughts that he hasn't experienced any > negative side effects by wearing these gems. From all Smita has written on > the extreme difficulties he's been going through for over a year and her > reasons for writing to the list during this time although he was wearing > these gems. Also what she has mentioned regarding his thinking being out of > his natural character, becoming bitter.. etc.. > _____________ > Smita's husband has been wearing Ruby and blue Sapphire long before without > any negative side effects beside as per SA., SUN and Saturn are functional > benefic planets for the Leo Asdt. of her husband's horoscope. > _____ > As it appears that her husband has been > wearing the Ruby ring for some time, if I am not mistaken. So, Ruby is not > giving any bad effect as you might have thought of otherwise. > > Smita: > >He is a gem of a human being, kind, generous to a fault, understanding > >and caring. From a long time now, he has been under a negative cloud, > >one that is sapping his mental strength and energies. Being stabbed in > >the back by the very same people he went out of his way to help, he is > >also becoming very bitter and cynical about life, something thats > >against his natural grain. > > > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 I do not think he is to listen to PGA standard rules (Or anything else) he already is well versed in System Approach, which for certain ascendants assigns all seven major planets as benefics and so as per SA all those seven planets can very safely be strengthened with gemstones :-D Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies Where relief and solutions are found - Wendy Vasicek valist Cc: jyotish-vidya Monday, March 14, 2005 10:04 AM RE: Auspicious time......... Dear Amar Puri, I'm sure you're aware that, as Saturn and Sun are natural enemies, B.Sapphire and Ruby should never be worn together. This is a basic rule that all qualified PGA's (planetary gem advisors) should be aware of. Prescribing gems carries a huge responsibility as undoubtedly they have a significant effect. The first rule of thumb should always be "When in doubt don't". Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com/gems.htm ____________________ valist, "fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...> wrote: Hello dear Smita, Hare Krishna. It is very important that one must wear the gem stones only at auspicious time. As soon as you have all these stones put in a pendent and ready to wear, please let me know which place you live and I shall advise you the appropriate time accordingly. Yes, Blue Sapphire 4.65 carat or above, same weight for Yellow Sapphire, Ruby and Emerald, Diamond 1 carat or a good quality Zircon 10 carat. If you are using substitude, the weight has to be more which please note. He has no problem wearing Blue Sapphire. Saturn being debilitated and combusted operating with weak combusted Mercury in the 9h of Mars controlling fortune needs to be strengthened because strong malefic unafflicted MOON occupies the weak 7h of Saturn which can harm both your health and happiness. However, a strong aspect of Mars to Moon does pacify the malefic effects of MOON. Any way carry on the propitiatory measurers for the malefics MOON, Rahu and Ketu as advised earlier, and the strengthening measurers for the better result. As you wrote that he has Ruby and Blue Sapphire, if the weight is correct and in a ring form, hopefully gold, I can work out to give you the auspicious time as soon as you let me know which place your husband lives and he can also begin to propitiate the malefics MOON, Rahu and Ketu. He should remove all the stones and wear it again on elected auspicious time. Hari BOL. With my best wishes..............AMAR PURI. Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Hello Tanvir and the list members, Hare Krishna. How wonderful it is that Tanvir can think and speak exactly for me and my knowledge of SA. I am sure that you all agree to that we acquire knowledge to become perfect regardless where it comes from. You keep what is good for you and discard the rest which is not usefull. I have found SA. very very very practically on the nose all the times in every situation whereas I have miserably failed to get the right and sraight answer with other system of apprach. So, I have adopted the SA. Following rules without its practical validity of application in every situation are as good as on the paper, in my practical experience and experience of other people as well. Certainly, the result can be only positive and productive if it is followed with the right combination, no doubt. As my very dear friend, the Astrologer said in his posting that if somebody is drinking hot coffee with cold water, the effect is neutral, as it sounds. You may experience the situation that the result will be very uncomfortable but never be neutral as he indicated. Isn't it ? So, to make long story short, I can only say based on my practicle knowledge and experience, I have recommended and seen people wearing Ruby and Blue Sapphire together provided the planets Sun and Saturn are functional benefics in the natal chart (like in this case of Smita under discussion) with lots of positive and productive results. May Lord Shri Krishna bless all of us. Hari BOL. OM TAT SAT. With my best wishes and regards...........AMAR PURI. >"Tanvir" <ultimate >valist ><valist> >Re: RE: Auspicious time......... >Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:05:56 +0600 > > >I do not think he is to listen to PGA standard rules (Or anything else) he >already is well versed in System Approach, which for certain ascendants >assigns all seven major planets as benefics and so as per SA all those >seven planets can very safely be strengthened with gemstones :-D > >Tanvir > > > >What can not happen, can never happen. >Which is mine, is forever mine. > >http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) >Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies >Where relief and solutions are found > > > - > Wendy Vasicek > valist > Cc: jyotish-vidya > Monday, March 14, 2005 10:04 AM > RE: Auspicious time......... > > > > Dear Amar Puri, > > I'm sure you're aware that, as Saturn and Sun are natural enemies, > B.Sapphire and Ruby should never be worn together. This is a basic > rule that all qualified PGA's (planetary gem advisors) should be > aware of. > > Prescribing gems carries a huge responsibility as undoubtedly they > have a significant effect. The first rule of thumb should always be > "When in doubt don't". > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com/gems.htm > ____________________ > > valist, "fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...> > wrote: > > Hello dear Smita, > > Hare Krishna. > > It is very important that one must wear the gem stones only at > auspicious > time. As soon as you have all these stones put in a pendent and > ready to > wear, please let me know which place you live and I shall advise > you the > appropriate time accordingly. > > Yes, Blue Sapphire 4.65 carat or above, same weight for Yellow > Sapphire, > Ruby and Emerald, Diamond 1 carat or a good quality Zircon 10 > carat. If > you are using substitude, the weight has to be more which please > note. > > He has no problem wearing Blue Sapphire. Saturn being debilitated > and > combusted operating with weak combusted Mercury in the 9h of Mars > controlling fortune needs to be strengthened because strong malefic > unafflicted MOON occupies the weak 7h of Saturn which can harm both > your > health and happiness. However, a strong aspect of Mars to Moon does > pacify > the malefic effects of MOON. Any way carry on the propitiatory > measurers > for the malefics MOON, Rahu and Ketu as advised earlier, and the > strengthening measurers for the better result. > > As you wrote that he has Ruby and Blue Sapphire, if the weight is > correct > and in a ring form, hopefully gold, I can work out to give you the > auspicious time as soon as you let me know which place your husband > lives > and he can also begin to propitiate the malefics MOON, Rahu and > Ketu. > He should remove all the stones and wear it again on elected > auspicious > time. > > Hari BOL. > > With my best wishes..............AMAR PURI. > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Dear list members, Quoting Amar Puri Ji, "As my very dear friend, the Astrologer said in his posting that if somebody is drinking hot coffee with cold water, the effect is neutral, as it sounds. You may experience the situation that the result will be very uncomfortable but never be neutral as he indicated. Isn't it ?" He accepts that the result will be uncomfortable. Then why does he want to provide discomfort? As far as 'Systems Approach' is concerned I have seen it to be theoretically sounding very good but pratically giving adverse or no efects at all. It is followed mostly because that way a lot of options are present before gullible astrologers to fleece the clients. A person who wears gemstones expects some relief and good results. If there is no effect at all, leave aside adverse or good effects, then what is the use of wearing them and spending so much money. The blue sapphire and ruby are not so cheap that a person who is already in financial difficulties should go on experimenting with them. Only one gemstone should be worn at a time to ascertain what results it is giving and at least one month time should be given before adding another gemstone. A true astrologer should not go by the book. He should use his own logic and analyse whatever he learns deeply. No astrologer was or is perfect. By studying all methods and choosing the best one, but keeping the mind open for new ideas, one can perform his best. Our duty is to provide guidance, relief and hope to common man, not to confuse them. My intentions are not to demean anyone, but to seek the truth. Amar, send your birth details and your whereabouts too. I like the way you make a topic arguable. I wish that we will meet personally some day. But, a word of advice. Most of us are well aware of Bhagwat Gita and its teachings. I think it is the greatest treatise on philosophy and functional psychology. But, please don't don't misuse Bhagwat Gita as a weapon where no fight is needed. This will only create wrong impressions as it has happened with Holy Koran. Rest is your own wisdom. Ashutosh. - fas fas <foreignersassistance <valist> Wednesday, March 16, 2005 04:26 Re: RE: Auspicious time......... > > Hello Tanvir and the list members, > > Hare Krishna. > > How wonderful it is that Tanvir can think and speak exactly for me and my > knowledge of SA. > > I am sure that you all agree to that we acquire knowledge to become perfect > regardless where it comes from. You keep what is good for you and discard > the rest which is not usefull. > > I have found SA. very very very practically on the nose all the times in > every situation whereas I have miserably failed to get the right and sraight > answer with other system of apprach. So, I have adopted the SA. > > Following rules without its practical validity of application in every > situation are as good as on the paper, in my practical experience and > experience of other people as well. Certainly, the result can be only > positive and productive if it is followed with the right combination, no > doubt. > > As my very dear friend, the Astrologer said in his posting that if somebody > is drinking hot coffee with cold water, the effect is neutral, as it sounds. > You may experience the situation that the result will be very > uncomfortable but never be neutral as he indicated. Isn't it ? > > So, to make long story short, I can only say based on my practicle > knowledge and experience, I have recommended and seen people wearing Ruby > and Blue Sapphire together provided the planets Sun and Saturn are > functional benefics in the natal chart (like in this case of Smita under > discussion) with lots of positive and productive results. > > May Lord Shri Krishna bless all of us. > > Hari BOL. OM TAT SAT. > > With my best wishes and regards...........AMAR PURI. > > > > > > >"Tanvir" <ultimate > >valist > ><valist> > >Re: RE: Auspicious time......... > >Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:05:56 +0600 > > > > > >I do not think he is to listen to PGA standard rules (Or anything else) he > >already is well versed in System Approach, which for certain ascendants > >assigns all seven major planets as benefics and so as per SA all those > >seven planets can very safely be strengthened with gemstones :-D > > > >Tanvir > > > > > > > >What can not happen, can never happen. > >Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > >http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) > >Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies > >Where relief and solutions are found > > > > > > - > > Wendy Vasicek > > valist > > Cc: jyotish-vidya > > Monday, March 14, 2005 10:04 AM > > RE: Auspicious time......... > > > > > > > > Dear Amar Puri, > > > > I'm sure you're aware that, as Saturn and Sun are natural enemies, > > B.Sapphire and Ruby should never be worn together. This is a basic > > rule that all qualified PGA's (planetary gem advisors) should be > > aware of. > > > > Prescribing gems carries a huge responsibility as undoubtedly they > > have a significant effect. The first rule of thumb should always be > > "When in doubt don't". > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com/gems.htm > > ____________________ > > > > valist, "fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...> > > wrote: > > > > Hello dear Smita, > > > > Hare Krishna. > > > > It is very important that one must wear the gem stones only at > > auspicious > > time. As soon as you have all these stones put in a pendent and > > ready to > > wear, please let me know which place you live and I shall advise > > you the > > appropriate time accordingly. > > > > Yes, Blue Sapphire 4.65 carat or above, same weight for Yellow > > Sapphire, > > Ruby and Emerald, Diamond 1 carat or a good quality Zircon 10 > > carat. If > > you are using substitude, the weight has to be more which please > > note. > > > > He has no problem wearing Blue Sapphire. Saturn being debilitated > > and > > combusted operating with weak combusted Mercury in the 9h of Mars > > controlling fortune needs to be strengthened because strong malefic > > unafflicted MOON occupies the weak 7h of Saturn which can harm both > > your > > health and happiness. However, a strong aspect of Mars to Moon does > > pacify > > the malefic effects of MOON. Any way carry on the propitiatory > > measurers > > for the malefics MOON, Rahu and Ketu as advised earlier, and the > > strengthening measurers for the better result. > > > > As you wrote that he has Ruby and Blue Sapphire, if the weight is > > correct > > and in a ring form, hopefully gold, I can work out to give you the > > auspicious time as soon as you let me know which place your husband > > lives > > and he can also begin to propitiate the malefics MOON, Rahu and > > Ketu. > > He should remove all the stones and wear it again on elected > > auspicious > > time. > > > > Hari BOL. > > > > With my best wishes..............AMAR PURI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Dear Tanvir, You are absolutely correct and I do apologise for using such terminology. I should have realised that the term *PGA* would have absolutely no meaning for one who is unfamiliar with it...once again I do apologise for that. However let's put all loyalties, that may cloud our reasoning, aside for a moment and consider, with an open mind, why it is that Gems of planets that are inimical to each other should not be worn together...it doesn't take an Einstein to figure this one out :-) All traditional Jyotish, familiar with the tenets laid down in classic literature, agree that Gemstones of mutually inimical planets should never be used simultaneously as they will certainly prove to be very adverse. The natural animosity between the owners of the gemstones can be visible in the life of native, where we can witness; the native is caught between many undesirable circumstances without his fault. Parashara states: "Note the signs which are the 4th, 2nd, 12th, 5th, 9th, and the 8th from the Moolatrikona of a planet. The planets ruling such signs are its friends, apart from the lord of its exaltation sign. Lords other than these are its enemies. If a planet becomes its friend as well as its enemy (temporary relationship) then it is neutral or equal." I have neither the desire nor the time to get involved in a lengthy debate here so I'll let this be my last word on the topic, except to encourage all to put their prejudices/loyalties aside and study the scriptures with an open mind. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________ valist, "Tanvir" <ultimate@s...> wrote: I do not think he is to listen to PGA standard rules (Or anything else) he already is well versed in System Approach, which for certain ascendants assigns all seven major planets as benefics and so as per SA all those seven planets can very safely be strengthened with gemstones :-D Tanvir ____________________ - Wendy Vasicek valist Cc: jyotish-vidya Monday, March 14, 2005 10:04 AM RE: Auspicious time......... Dear Amar Puri, I'm sure you're aware that, as Saturn and Sun are natural enemies, B.Sapphire and Ruby should never be worn together. This is a basic rule that all qualified PGA's (planetary gem advisors) should be aware of. Prescribing gems carries a huge responsibility as undoubtedly they have a significant effect. The first rule of thumb should always be "When in doubt don't". Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com/gems.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 My very dear Friend, the Astrologer Ashutosh and the List Members, Hare Krishna. ALL YOU CAN DO IS ALL YOU CAN DO ALL YOU CAN DO IS NONE. Simply read very carefully what I wrote in my message ; "So, to make long story short, I can only say based on my practicle >knowledge and experience, I have recommended and seen people wearing Ruby >and Blue Sapphire together provided the planets Sun and Saturn are >functional benefics in the natal chart (like in this case of Smita under >discussion) with lots of positive and productive results." And read on what my dear friend, the Astrologer, is saying in writing below in his message where he fails to see the real fact of the matter under discussion. With no further comments BUT my best wishes and regards always. Hari BOL. OM TAT SAT............AMAR PURI. >"Astrologer Ashutosh" <astrologerashutosh >valist ><valist> >Re: RE: Auspicious time......... >Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:26:26 +0530 > > >Dear list members, > Quoting Amar Puri Ji, > "As my very >dear friend, the Astrologer said in his posting that if somebody >is drinking hot coffee with cold water, the effect is neutral, as it >sounds. > You may experience the situation that the result will be very >uncomfortable but never be neutral as he indicated. Isn't it ?" > He accepts that the result will be uncomfortable. Then why does he >want to provide discomfort? As far as 'Systems Approach' is concerned I >have >seen it to be theoretically sounding very good but pratically giving >adverse >or no efects at all. It is followed mostly because that way a lot of >options >are present before gullible astrologers to fleece the clients. A person who >wears gemstones expects some relief and good results. If there is no effect >at all, leave aside adverse or good effects, then what is the use of >wearing >them and spending so much money. The blue sapphire and ruby are not so >cheap >that a person who is already in financial difficulties should go on >experimenting with them. > Only one gemstone should be worn at a time to ascertain what >results >it is giving and at least one month time should be given before adding >another gemstone. > A true astrologer should not go by the book. He should use his >own >logic and analyse whatever he learns deeply. No astrologer was or is >perfect. By studying all methods and choosing the best one, but keeping the >mind open for new ideas, one can perform his best. Our duty is to provide >guidance, relief and hope to common man, not to confuse them. > My intentions are not to demean anyone, but to seek >the >truth. Amar, send your birth details and your whereabouts too. I like the >way you make a topic arguable. I wish that we will meet personally some >day. >But, a word of advice. Most of us are well aware of Bhagwat Gita and its >teachings. I think it is the greatest treatise on philosophy and functional >psychology. But, please don't don't misuse Bhagwat Gita as a weapon where >no >fight is needed. This will only create wrong impressions as it has happened >with Holy Koran. Rest is your own wisdom. > >Ashutosh. > > > > > > >- >fas fas <foreignersassistance ><valist> >Wednesday, March 16, 2005 04:26 >Re: RE: Auspicious time......... > > > > > > Hello Tanvir and the list members, > > > > Hare Krishna. > > > > How wonderful it is that Tanvir can think and speak exactly for me and >my > > knowledge of SA. > > > > I am sure that you all agree to that we acquire knowledge to become >perfect > > regardless where it comes from. You keep what is good for you and >discard > > the rest which is not usefull. > > > > I have found SA. very very very practically on the nose all the times in > > every situation whereas I have miserably failed to get the right and >sraight > > answer with other system of apprach. So, I have adopted the SA. > > > > Following rules without its practical validity of application in every > > situation are as good as on the paper, in my practical experience and > > experience of other people as well. Certainly, the result can be only > > positive and productive if it is followed with the right combination, no > > doubt. > > > > As my very dear friend, the Astrologer said in his posting that if >somebody > > is drinking hot coffee with cold water, the effect is neutral, as it >sounds. > > You may experience the situation that the result will be very > > uncomfortable but never be neutral as he indicated. Isn't it ? > > > > So, to make long story short, I can only say based on my practicle > > knowledge and experience, I have recommended and seen people wearing >Ruby > > and Blue Sapphire together provided the planets Sun and Saturn are > > functional benefics in the natal chart (like in this case of Smita under > > discussion) with lots of positive and productive results. > > > > May Lord Shri Krishna bless all of us. > > > > Hari BOL. OM TAT SAT. > > > > With my best wishes and regards...........AMAR PURI. > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Tanvir" <ultimate > > >valist > > ><valist> > > >Re: RE: Auspicious time......... > > >Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:05:56 +0600 > > > > > > > > >I do not think he is to listen to PGA standard rules (Or anything else) >he > > >already is well versed in System Approach, which for certain ascendants > > >assigns all seven major planets as benefics and so as per SA all those > > >seven planets can very safely be strengthened with gemstones :-D > > > > > >Tanvir > > > > > > > > > > > >What can not happen, can never happen. > > >Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > > >http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) > > >Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies > > >Where relief and solutions are found > > > > > > > > > - > > > Wendy Vasicek > > > valist > > > Cc: jyotish-vidya > > > Monday, March 14, 2005 10:04 AM > > > RE: Auspicious time......... > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Amar Puri, > > > > > > I'm sure you're aware that, as Saturn and Sun are natural enemies, > > > B.Sapphire and Ruby should never be worn together. This is a basic > > > rule that all qualified PGA's (planetary gem advisors) should be > > > aware of. > > > > > > Prescribing gems carries a huge responsibility as undoubtedly they > > > have a significant effect. The first rule of thumb should always be > > > "When in doubt don't". > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Mrs. Wendy > > > http://JyotishVidya.com/gems.htm > > > ____________________ > > > > > > valist, "fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello dear Smita, > > > > > > Hare Krishna. > > > > > > It is very important that one must wear the gem stones only at > > > auspicious > > > time. As soon as you have all these stones put in a pendent and > > > ready to > > > wear, please let me know which place you live and I shall advise > > > you the > > > appropriate time accordingly. > > > > > > Yes, Blue Sapphire 4.65 carat or above, same weight for Yellow > > > Sapphire, > > > Ruby and Emerald, Diamond 1 carat or a good quality Zircon 10 > > > carat. If > > > you are using substitude, the weight has to be more which please > > > note. > > > > > > He has no problem wearing Blue Sapphire. Saturn being debilitated > > > and > > > combusted operating with weak combusted Mercury in the 9h of Mars > > > controlling fortune needs to be strengthened because strong malefic > > > unafflicted MOON occupies the weak 7h of Saturn which can harm both > > > your > > > health and happiness. However, a strong aspect of Mars to Moon does > > > pacify > > > the malefic effects of MOON. Any way carry on the propitiatory > > > measurers > > > for the malefics MOON, Rahu and Ketu as advised earlier, and the > > > strengthening measurers for the better result. > > > > > > As you wrote that he has Ruby and Blue Sapphire, if the weight is > > > correct > > > and in a ring form, hopefully gold, I can work out to give you the > > > auspicious time as soon as you let me know which place your husband > > > lives > > > and he can also begin to propitiate the malefics MOON, Rahu and > > > Ketu. > > > He should remove all the stones and wear it again on elected > > > auspicious > > > time. > > > > > > Hari BOL. > > > > > > With my best wishes..............AMAR PURI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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