Bush v/s Kerry

[Guest guest]

Dear Brilla and List,

Brilla gave me two KP No's 249 for Bush and 75 for Kerry,

Now are the times of Computer , once you though of it , you have the

calculations before you , and you may continue to assess.

I gave the No's to computer for Kerry on 7.10.2004 at 30.12.n and 75.00.e at

11.31 AM and for Bush at 11.32. AM . Soon after i was assessing for

both.Also assessment for one is for another in opposite terms.

Kerry's horary chart is cancer lagna with Moon lord Mercury as constellation

lord and Mercury as sub.

Moon is in 12th with Saturn in his house and in 12th from his own sign.

Nothing augurs well for ascendant.

Mercury the sub lord of Asc is combust till 19th October , is ahead of Sun

and is in the star of Moon in 12th and is in the sub of Venus in 1st.

Merc is a 2nd grade significator of asc . but 1st grade of 12th.

Venus the sub lord of Mercury is 1st grade significator of asc but is a

badhka lord also.

Mercury is associated with Sun in the back and Sun has Mars in the back,

Mars the 10th lord is a ghost in the night , the visibility which be clear

to Kerry on 6th November.

Mercury is considered an significator of intelligence , but its working

through the planet moon is never desirable , it gives an emotional illusion

, wrong assessment, here the question rise in my mind . If it is fear psycho

of the questioner rather than of Candidate. To remove this error I take

another No. from a baby of 12 year of age. i will discuss that analysis

again.

But the lagan in this case is really weak.7th sub lord Saturn is in 12th ,

is a strong significator of asc , it is in the star of Jupiter in 9th from

7th , Jupiter is 6th lord and is also 9th lord. This shows a tough time for

Bush .

The sub lord of Saturn is Rahu it is in 9th in the sub of Ketu , placed in

Libra, 10th from 7th and going to 9th from 7th.

On 29th October Saturn moves to his own star and turn retrograde from 8th

November. These 9 days cunningness of Saturn will change the History of USA

again.

Saturn controls 2,4,7,8,10th houses.

Saturn is a strong significator of 3,6 and 9th. This becomes 9th,12th and

3rd for 7th house.

It is strongest available significator of 7th 8th and 12th, it is causing

shadow on all the planets in Virgo and take controls from them , it even

pollute to Moon becoming 2nd from him.

During 29th October to 8th November it is very heavy because of his movement

in his own star.

It can use any thing mischievous trick in favor of his own houses.

Some thing challengeable is coming up.

The Dasha running is of Jupiter Moon . Moon is 6th sub lord , it is in

Jupiter star but own sub and is in 12th.

Jupiter is aspecting to 7th and is 3rd and 12th lord from 7th. So Jupiter is

protecting as well as harming to 7th , but Moon is only harming to asc being

in 12th from asc.

Checking by ruling planets The asc refer to Mars , Merc , Rahu

Moon refer to Merc Jup and day refer to Jupiter

Saturn has not surfaced as the ruling planet. In my general practice , i

take it guaranteed as the confusion of the consultant mind , this also

motivated to me to take another No. for Kerry.

Jupiter is only 11th sub lord and is in sun star , 2nd lord in 3rd and is in

Venus sub , Venus is in 1st a strongest significator of 11th .

Moon Antar Dasha is in operation, Moon is in Jupiter star and Moon sub in

12th.This mean loss in game is the victory.

Does this show, gain by loss?

Does this shows , Litigations and recounts again? Does this show later

victory for Kerry?

These are posing a big questions for me.

Bush will won , but the November month may have many confusion with it.

Saturn will reenter Jupiter star on 18th November.

Bush may have a 10 days Win .But an ultimate loss.

I am giving my mind holding nothing , as I am reading it.

But I have three more No's to assess. But if astrology is a science , how

can another No's change the conclusion , this is a big question for me?

With Best Wishes,

Inder Jit Sahni, House No.1351-HIG, Model Town Phase-1

Bhatinda-151001 phone 0164-2211360

hanskpvedic

[Guest guest]

Calculating and declaring that in open requires confidence , I am posting

all this for the astrologer's view points and if I am proved correct I will

not be happy for this as this is strength of astrology , but if i am proved

wrong then , i need further learning and will search for my mistakes.This is

self motivation with which I post for others to analyse.

 

Dear Inder and members on Various lists

<A doubt comes to my mind whether we can apply Kp horary this way.

As the numbers given would signify wishes or confused thoughts of

queriest. As the matter doen not relate to Brilla personaly, would

it work.?>

This was exactly my thought, I was on a tour yesterday , so was not able to

respond.

Let us think in another way. The questioner is a citizen of USA.

10th house represent the Government of the questioner.

This is service of someone to whom this is 6th house. Thus 5th house will

represent the present ruler, 7th house will represent his appeal or

application and 11th house will represent the opponent , where as asc will

represent the application or appeal of the opponent to remove the 5th house

person.

Here again the 5th house sub lord is Rahu , it represent Mars and is in Ketu

constellation 11th to 5th and in the sub of Jupiter in 11th to 5th . Jupiter

is in Sun constellation. This is a clear cut victory for 5th house person.

This I am looking for the Kerry referred No generated chart.

The Bush's Horary Chart also says the same thing.

So this is a victory for Bush again. This is now clear.

The answer is so clear that I need not look at other things

Inder Jit Sahni, House No.1351-HIG, Model Town Phase-1

Bhatinda-151001 phone 0164-2211360

hanskpvedic

[Guest guest]

Hello Mr Sahni

 

Hum, its all very smart but... there is only one winner. One candidate

s got to win no matter what our concept of it.

 

I predict Kerry to win despite some damage to both his & Bush's public

images.

 

Best to you,

Pierre Touchard

 

 

Inder Jit Sahni wrote:

 

>Calculating and declaring that in open requires confidence , I am posting

>all this for the astrologer's view points and if I am proved correct I will

>not be happy for this as this is strength of astrology , but if i am proved

>wrong then , i need further learning and will search for my mistakes.This is

>self motivation with which I post for others to analyse.

>

>Dear Inder and members on Various lists

><A doubt comes to my mind whether we can apply Kp horary this way.

>As the numbers given would signify wishes or confused thoughts of

>queriest. As the matter doen not relate to Brilla personaly, would

>it work.?>

>This was exactly my thought, I was on a tour yesterday , so was not able to

>respond.

>Let us think in another way. The questioner is a citizen of USA.

>10th house represent the Government of the questioner.

>This is service of someone to whom this is 6th house. Thus 5th house will

>represent the present ruler, 7th house will represent his appeal or

>application and 11th house will represent the opponent , where as asc will

>represent the application or appeal of the opponent to remove the 5th house

>person.

>Here again the 5th house sub lord is Rahu , it represent Mars and is in Ketu

>constellation 11th to 5th and in the sub of Jupiter in 11th to 5th . Jupiter

>is in Sun constellation. This is a clear cut victory for 5th house person.

>This I am looking for the Kerry referred No generated chart.

>The Bush's Horary Chart also says the same thing.

>So this is a victory for Bush again. This is now clear.

>The answer is so clear that I need not look at other things

>Inder Jit Sahni, House No.1351-HIG, Model Town Phase-1

>Bhatinda-151001 phone 0164-2211360

>hanskpvedic

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[Guest guest]

I predict the winnger to be GW Bush....

 

Based on his chart, transits, candidate nomination times, lunar

returns and comparison with Kerry. (have posted some details before

in short) this is the conclusion.

 

only query is, perhaps in discussing the horary chart Inder Jit

Sahni might like to post the chart or the chart details so we can

see what he is looking at? more detail would be good.

 

dawn w

 

 

 

valist, Touchard Pierre <pierre.touchard@n...>

wrote:

> Hello Mr Sahni

>

> Hum, its all very smart but... there is only one winner. One

candidate

> s got to win no matter what our concept of it.

>

> I predict Kerry to win despite some damage to both his & Bush's

public

> images.

>

> Best to you,

> Pierre Touchard

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> Inder Jit Sahni wrote:

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> >Calculating and declaring that in open requires confidence , I am

posting

> >all this for the astrologer's view points and if I am proved

correct I will

> >not be happy for this as this is strength of astrology , but if i

am proved

> >wrong then , i need further learning and will search for my

mistakes.This is

> >self motivation with which I post for others to analyse.

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> >Dear Inder and members on Various lists

> ><A doubt comes to my mind whether we can apply Kp horary this way.

> >As the numbers given would signify wishes or confused thoughts of

> >queriest. As the matter doen not relate to Brilla personaly, would

> >it work.?>

> >This was exactly my thought, I was on a tour yesterday , so was

not able to

> >respond.

> >Let us think in another way. The questioner is a citizen of USA.

> >10th house represent the Government of the questioner.

> >This is service of someone to whom this is 6th house. Thus 5th

house will

> >represent the present ruler, 7th house will represent his appeal or

> >application and 11th house will represent the opponent , where as

asc will

> >represent the application or appeal of the opponent to remove the

5th house

> >person.

> >Here again the 5th house sub lord is Rahu , it represent Mars and

is in Ketu

> >constellation 11th to 5th and in the sub of Jupiter in 11th to

5th . Jupiter

> >is in Sun constellation. This is a clear cut victory for 5th house

person.

> >This I am looking for the Kerry referred No generated chart.

> >The Bush's Horary Chart also says the same thing.

> >So this is a victory for Bush again. This is now clear.

> >The answer is so clear that I need not look at other things

> >Inder Jit Sahni, House No.1351-HIG, Model Town Phase-1

> >Bhatinda-151001 phone 0164-2211360

> >hanskpvedic

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[Guest guest]

Dear Touchard Pierre ,

I am not attached with any one emotionally.

The Horary chart I used is attached , please open it with Word pad.

<Hum, its all very smart but... there is only one winner. One candidate

s got to win no matter what our concept of it. >

Yes good way to put the things. But in the class of Astrologers the concept

shall be of astrology only.

I am not doing a toss, head for win tail for loss.

 

<I predict Kerry to win despite some damage to both his & Bush's public

images.>

You might have done analysis; as the birth times of positions are not

reliable , i used horary.

But horary too has limitations. Here neither Bush had enquired from me nor

Kerry. But a citizen of USA , she may be interested in some candidate? But

how to calculate and derive the results is a problem?

Can you put in some energies?

With Best Wishes,

Inder Jit Sahni, House No.1351-HIG, Model Town Phase-1

Bhatinda-151001 phone 0164-2211360

hanskpvedic

 

 

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Name : Kerry

Date Of Question : 7-10-2004 Time of Assesment : 11-31 IST

Place of Assessment : Bhatinda Day of Assesment : THURSDAY

Latitude : 030-12 N Longitude : 075-00 E

Ayanash : 23.92 10th Cusp : 157.68

Sideral Time : 12.10 Obliq : 23.44

KP No. =75

PLANETARY POSITION

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PLANET SIGN LONGITUDE MODE NAKASHTRA PAD RASILORD NAKLORD SUBLORD

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LAG VRISCIKA 24:26:32 --- JYESHTA 3 MARS MERC RAHU

SUN KANYA 20:30:53 --- HASTA 4 MERC MOON VENS

MON MITHUNA 29:30:51 --- PUNARVASU 3 MERC JUPT MOON

MAR KANYA 13:15: 8 DIR HASTA 1 MERC MOON RAHU

MER KANYA 21:38: 1 DIR HASTA 4 MERC MOON VENS

JUP KANYA 8:49: 9 DIR UTTARPHAL 4 MERC SUN VENS

VEN SIMHA 10:18:47 DIR MAGHA 4 SUN KETU SATN

SAT KARAK 2:35:43 DIR PUNARVASU 4 MOON JUPT RAHU

RAH MESHA 9: 3:14 RET ASVINI 3 MARS KETU JUPT

KET TULA 9: 3:14 RET SVATI 1 VENS RAHU JUPT

URA KUMBHA 9:41: 0 RET SATABHISA 1 SATN RAHU JUPT

NEP MAKRA 18:49:31 RET SRAVANA 3 SATN MOON MERC

PLU VRISCIKA 26: 0:14 DIR JYESHTA 3 MARS MERC RAHU

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CUSP AS PER PLACIDUS SYSTEM

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CUSP NO. RASI LOGTD RASILORD NAKLORD SUBLORD

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Lagna KARAK 16|40| 0 MOON MERC MERC

2nd SIMHA 10|31| 5 SUN KETU SATN

3rd KANYA 8|30| 6 MERC SUN VENS

4rth TULA 10|45|45 VENS RAHU SATN

5th VRISCIKA 14|41|41 MARS SATN RAHU

6th DHANU 17| 3|11 JUPT VENS MOON

7th MAKRA 16|40| 0 SATN MOON SATN

8th KUMBHA 10|31| 5 SATN RAHU SATN

9th MINA 8|30| 6 JUPT SATN VENS

10th MESHA 10|45|45 MARS KETU SATN

11th VRISHA 14|41|41 VENS MOON JUPT

12th MITHUNA 17| 3|11 MERC RAHU VENS

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NAVMASA

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VIMSOTTARI DASSA

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DASA BHUKTI ANTARA DD MM YYYY

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JUPT MOON MOON 17-10-2004

JUPT MOON MARS 15-11-2004

JUPT MOON RAHU 27- 1-2005

JUPT MOON JUPT 1- 4-2005

JUPT MOON SATN 17- 6-2005

JUPT MOON MERC 25- 8-2005

JUPT MOON KETU 23- 9-2005

JUPT MOON VENS 13-12-2005

JUPT MOON SUN 7- 1-2006

JUPT MARS MARS 27- 1-2006

JUPT MARS RAHU 17- 3-2006

JUPT MARS JUPT 2- 5-2006

JUPT MARS SATN 25- 6-2006

JUPT MARS MERC 13- 8-2006

JUPT MARS KETU 3- 9-2006

JUPT MARS VENS 29-10-2006

JUPT MARS SUN 15-11-2006

JUPT MARS MOON 13-12-2006

JUPT RAHU RAHU 23- 4-2007

JUPT RAHU JUPT 18- 8-2007

JUPT RAHU SATN 5- 1-2008

JUPT RAHU MERC 7- 5-2008

JUPT RAHU KETU 28- 6-2008

JUPT RAHU VENS 22-11-2008

JUPT RAHU SUN 5- 1-2009

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Kerry page : 4

 

VIMSOTTARI DASSA

DASA BHUKTI ANTAR DD MM YYYY

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JUPT RAHU MOON 17- 3-2009

JUPT RAHU MARS 7- 5-2009

***** JUPT DASA ENDS ******

 

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Name : Bush

Date Of Question : 7-10-2004 Time of Assesment : 11-31 IST

Place of Assessment : Bhatinda Day of Assesment : THURSDAY

Latitude : 030-12 N Longitude : 075-00 E

Ayanash : 23.92 10th Cusp : 157.68

Sideral Time : 12.10 Obliq : 23.44

KP No. =249

PLANETARY POSITION

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PLANET SIGN LONGITUDE MODE NAKASHTRA PAD RASILORD NAKLORD SUBLORD

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LAG VRISCIKA 24:26:32 --- JYESHTA 3 MARS MERC RAHU

SUN KANYA 20:30:53 --- HASTA 4 MERC MOON VENS

MON MITHUNA 29:30:51 --- PUNARVASU 3 MERC JUPT MOON

MAR KANYA 13:15: 8 DIR HASTA 1 MERC MOON RAHU

MER KANYA 21:38: 1 DIR HASTA 4 MERC MOON VENS

JUP KANYA 8:49: 9 DIR UTTARPHAL 4 MERC SUN VENS

VEN SIMHA 10:18:47 DIR MAGHA 4 SUN KETU SATN

SAT KARAK 2:35:43 DIR PUNARVASU 4 MOON JUPT RAHU

RAH MESHA 9: 3:14 RET ASVINI 3 MARS KETU JUPT

KET TULA 9: 3:14 RET SVATI 1 VENS RAHU JUPT

URA KUMBHA 9:41: 0 RET SATABHISA 1 SATN RAHU JUPT

NEP MAKRA 18:49:31 RET SRAVANA 3 SATN MOON MERC

PLU VRISCIKA 26: 0:14 DIR JYESHTA 3 MARS MERC RAHU

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CUSP AS PER PLACIDUS SYSTEM

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CUSP NO. RASI LOGTD RASILORD NAKLORD SUBLORD

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Lagna MINA 27|53|20 JUPT MERC SATN

2nd VRISHA 1|20|47 VENS SUN JUPT

3rd VRISHA 26|51|21 VENS MARS JUPT

4rth MITHUNA 20| 2|57 MERC JUPT JUPT

5th KARAK 15|10|30 MOON SATN JUPT

6th SIMHA 16|48|11 SUN VENS MOON

7th KANYA 27|53|20 MERC MARS SATN

8th VRISCIKA 1|20|47 MARS JUPT RAHU

9th VRISCIKA 26|51|21 MARS MERC JUPT

10th DHANU 20| 2|57 JUPT VENS RAHU

11th MAKRA 15|10|30 SATN MOON JUPT

12th KUMBHA 16|48|11 SATN RAHU VENS

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NAVMASA

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VIMSOTTARI DASSA

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DASA BHUKTI ANTARA DD MM YYYY

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JUPT MOON MOON 17-10-2004

JUPT MOON MARS 15-11-2004

JUPT MOON RAHU 27- 1-2005

JUPT MOON JUPT 1- 4-2005

JUPT MOON SATN 17- 6-2005

JUPT MOON MERC 25- 8-2005

JUPT MOON KETU 23- 9-2005

JUPT MOON VENS 13-12-2005

JUPT MOON SUN 7- 1-2006

JUPT MARS MARS 27- 1-2006

JUPT MARS RAHU 17- 3-2006

JUPT MARS JUPT 2- 5-2006

JUPT MARS SATN 25- 6-2006

JUPT MARS MERC 13- 8-2006

JUPT MARS KETU 3- 9-2006

JUPT MARS VENS 29-10-2006

JUPT MARS SUN 15-11-2006

JUPT MARS MOON 13-12-2006

JUPT RAHU RAHU 23- 4-2007

JUPT RAHU JUPT 18- 8-2007

JUPT RAHU SATN 5- 1-2008

JUPT RAHU MERC 7- 5-2008

JUPT RAHU KETU 28- 6-2008

JUPT RAHU VENS 22-11-2008

JUPT RAHU SUN 5- 1-2009

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Bush page : 4

 

VIMSOTTARI DASSA

DASA BHUKTI ANTAR DD MM YYYY

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JUPT RAHU MOON 17- 3-2009

JUPT RAHU MARS 7- 5-2009

***** JUPT DASA ENDS ******

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Dawn W,

<only query is, perhaps in discussing the horary chart Inder Jit

Sahni might like to post the chart or the chart details so we can

see what he is looking at? more detail would be good.>

 

I had attached the file in response to another member's query

I discussed the charts 1st taking ascendant as the candidate concerned ,

but a competent astrologer raised the doubt that how we can use horary

without any connection with the incident or involvement. Hence I used

another way to calculate.

Now let us take the Horary chart for Bush.Bush is the present President.

We shall decide in this manner that if present Govt. will continue or not.

In this 10th sub lord is Rahu , it represent Mars being in his sign. Mars is

in moon star 12th from the 5th . 5th shows the present president Bush. But

it is only sub which decides it a favor or loss. here sub of Rahu is Jupiter

, who is a significator of 6th and is lord of 10th and is with bright rays

in the star of Sun in 6th.

An horary chart shall show all the points and they shall be interlinked that

there should be no confusion. If it is ? then either we are looking at wrong

houses or some technical mistake is there.

The rul;ing planet shows mood and actual happenings ,

The ruling planet at the time of assessment were :-

Mars Mercury Rahu due to asc.

Mercury , Jupiter due to Moon,

Day lord was Jupiter.

Mars is combust , Mercury is combust , this amounts to darkness which never

continues for long but shows some thing wrong in the mind of queries , where

as Jupiter and Moon points towards actual happening. Rahu is also in Ketu

star and Mars sign , shows some confusions which will end in Jupiter way.

Now in the Bush related horary chart Mars is 8th and 9th lord , this is

confusion of loss to Bush.

Mercury is 4rth and 7th lord , it is confusion of loss to Bush in his

appeal.

Now look at Kerry chart.

Mars is 10th and 5th lord, it is confusion of Victory for Kerry. Mercury is

12th and 3rd lord it is confusion in the appeal of Kerry.

I am open for corrections as yet.

If any body will put energies in it.

Inder Jit Sahni, House No.1351-HIG, Model Town Phase-1

Bhatinda-151001 phone 0164-2211360

hanskpvedic

[Guest guest]

Dear Dawn W,

<only query is, perhaps in discussing the horary chart Inder Jit

Sahni might like to post the chart or the chart details so we can

see what he is looking at? more detail would be good.>

 

I had attached the file in response to another member's query

I discussed the charts 1st taking ascendant as the candidate concerned ,

but a competent astrologer raised the doubt that how we can use horary

without any connection with the incident or involvement. Hence I used

another way to calculate.

Now let us take the Horary chart for Bush.Bush is the present President.

We shall decide in this manner that if present Govt. will continue or not.

In this 10th sub lord is Rahu , it represent Mars being in his sign. Mars is

in moon star 12th from the 5th . 5th shows the present president Bush. But

it is only sub which decides it a favor or loss. here sub of Rahu is Jupiter

, who is a significator of 6th and is lord of 10th and is with bright rays

in the star of Sun in 6th.

An horary chart shall show all the points and they shall be interlinked that

there should be no confusion. If it is ? then either we are looking at wrong

houses or some technical mistake is there.

The rul;ing planet shows mood and actual happenings ,

The ruling planet at the time of assessment were :-

Mars Mercury Rahu due to asc.

Mercury , Jupiter due to Moon,

Day lord was Jupiter.

Mars is combust , Mercury is combust , this amounts to darkness which never

continues for long but shows some thing wrong in the mind of queries , where

as Jupiter and Moon points towards actual happening. Rahu is also in Ketu

star and Mars sign , shows some confusions which will end in Jupiter way.

Now in the Bush related horary chart Mars is 8th and 9th lord , this is

confusion of loss to Bush.

Mercury is 4rth and 7th lord , it is confusion of loss to Bush in his

appeal.

Now look at Kerry chart.

Mars is 10th and 5th lord, it is confusion of Victory for Kerry. Mercury is

12th and 3rd lord it is confusion in the appeal of Kerry.

I am open for corrections as yet.

If any body will put energies in it.

Inder Jit Sahni, House No.1351-HIG, Model Town Phase-1

Bhatinda-151001 phone 0164-2211360

hanskpvedic

[Guest guest]

Hello Mr Inder Jit Sahni

 

I was just sharing my point of view. Using transits and dasa only, I

made this assessment. We'll see soon haw it turns out to be, as the

call is tricky.

Best to you,

Pierre T

 

Inder Jit Sahni wrote:

 

>Dear Touchard Pierre ,

>I am not attached with any one emotionally.

>The Horary chart I used is attached , please open it with Word pad.

><Hum, its all very smart but... there is only one winner. One candidate

>s got to win no matter what our concept of it. >

>Yes good way to put the things. But in the class of Astrologers the concept

>shall be of astrology only.

>I am not doing a toss, head for win tail for loss.

>

><I predict Kerry to win despite some damage to both his & Bush's public

>images.>

>You might have done analysis; as the birth times of positions are not

>reliable , i used horary.

>But horary too has limitations. Here neither Bush had enquired from me nor

>Kerry. But a citizen of USA , she may be interested in some candidate? But

>how to calculate and derive the results is a problem?

>Can you put in some energies?

>With Best Wishes,

>Inder Jit Sahni, House No.1351-HIG, Model Town Phase-1

>Bhatinda-151001 phone 0164-2211360

>hanskpvedic

>

>

> ----------

>

>

> ****************************************************************************

>Name : Kerry

>Date Of Question : 7-10-2004 Time of Assesment : 11-31 IST

>Place of Assessment : Bhatinda Day of Assesment : THURSDAY

>Latitude : 030-12 N Longitude : 075-00 E

>Ayanash : 23.92 10th Cusp : 157.68

>Sideral Time : 12.10 Obliq : 23.44

>KP No. =75

> PLANETARY POSITION

>----

>PLANET SIGN LONGITUDE MODE NAKASHTRA PAD RASILORD NAKLORD SUBLORD

>----

>LAG VRISCIKA 24:26:32 --- JYESHTA 3 MARS MERC RAHU

>SUN KANYA 20:30:53 --- HASTA 4 MERC MOON VENS

>MON MITHUNA 29:30:51 --- PUNARVASU 3 MERC JUPT MOON

>MAR KANYA 13:15: 8 DIR HASTA 1 MERC MOON RAHU

>MER KANYA 21:38: 1 DIR HASTA 4 MERC MOON VENS

>JUP KANYA 8:49: 9 DIR UTTARPHAL 4 MERC SUN VENS

>VEN SIMHA 10:18:47 DIR MAGHA 4 SUN KETU SATN

>SAT KARAK 2:35:43 DIR PUNARVASU 4 MOON JUPT RAHU

>RAH MESHA 9: 3:14 RET ASVINI 3 MARS KETU JUPT

>KET TULA 9: 3:14 RET SVATI 1 VENS RAHU JUPT

>URA KUMBHA 9:41: 0 RET SATABHISA 1 SATN RAHU JUPT

>NEP MAKRA 18:49:31 RET SRAVANA 3 SATN MOON MERC

>PLU VRISCIKA 26: 0:14 DIR JYESHTA 3 MARS MERC RAHU

>-----

> CUSP AS PER PLACIDUS SYSTEM

>---------------------

>CUSP NO. RASI LOGTD RASILORD NAKLORD SUBLORD

>---------------------

>Lagna KARAK 16|40| 0 MOON MERC MERC

>2nd SIMHA 10|31| 5 SUN KETU SATN

>3rd KANYA 8|30| 6 MERC SUN VENS

>4rth TULA 10|45|45 VENS RAHU SATN

>5th VRISCIKA 14|41|41 MARS SATN RAHU

>6th DHANU 17| 3|11 JUPT VENS MOON

>7th MAKRA 16|40| 0 SATN MOON SATN

>8th KUMBHA 10|31| 5 SATN RAHU SATN

>9th MINA 8|30| 6 JUPT SATN VENS

>10th MESHA 10|45|45 MARS KETU SATN

>11th VRISHA 14|41|41 VENS MOON JUPT

>12th MITHUNA 17| 3|11 MERC RAHU VENS

>---------------------

>*************************************************************

>*** VEN ***** MON ***

>* * * LAG * * *

>*SUN * * * * *

>* MAR MER * 5 * SAT * 3 * *

>* JUP *** *** *

>* * * * * *

>* * * * * *

>* * * 4 * * *

>* 6 * KET * * RAH * 2 *

>*** ***** ***

>* * * * * *

>*PLU * * NEP * * *

>* * 7 * * 1 * *

>* *** *** *

>* * * * * *

>* * 9 * * 11 * *

>* * * 10 * * *

>* 8 * * * * 12 *

>*** ***** URA ***

>*************************************************************

> RASHI

> ^L

>*************************************************************

>*** ***** MON SAT ***

>* * * LAG * * *

>*SUN * * * * *

>* MAR MER * 5 * VEN * 3 * *

>* JUP KET *** *** *

>* * * * * *

>* * * * * *

>* * * 4 * * *

>* 6 * * * * 2 *

>*** ***** ***

>* * * * * *

>*PLU * * URA * *RAH *

>* * 7 * NEP * 1 * *

>* *** *** *

>* * * * * *

>* * 9 * * 11 * *

>* * * 10 * * *

>* 8 * * * * 12 *

>*** ***** ***

>*************************************************************

> CUSP

>

>*************************************************************

>*** ***** ***

>* * * LAG * * *

>*PLU * * * * *

>* * 10 * KET URA * 8 * *

>* *** *** *

>* * * * * *

>* * * * * *

>* * * 9 * * *

>* 11 * JUP * * * 7 *

>*** ***** ***

>* * * * * *

>*MAR * * MON * * *

>* * 12 * RAH NEP * 6 * *

>* *** *** *

>* * * * * *

>* * 2 * * 4 * *

>* * * 3 * * *

>* 1 * * * * 5 *

>*** ***** SUN MER VEN SAT ***

>*************************************************************

> NAVMASA

> ^L

> VIMSOTTARI DASSA

>---

> DASA BHUKTI ANTARA DD MM YYYY

>---

> JUPT MOON MOON 17-10-2004

> JUPT MOON MARS 15-11-2004

> JUPT MOON RAHU 27- 1-2005

> JUPT MOON JUPT 1- 4-2005

> JUPT MOON SATN 17- 6-2005

> JUPT MOON MERC 25- 8-2005

> JUPT MOON KETU 23- 9-2005

> JUPT MOON VENS 13-12-2005

> JUPT MOON SUN 7- 1-2006

> JUPT MARS MARS 27- 1-2006

> JUPT MARS RAHU 17- 3-2006

> JUPT MARS JUPT 2- 5-2006

> JUPT MARS SATN 25- 6-2006

> JUPT MARS MERC 13- 8-2006

> JUPT MARS KETU 3- 9-2006

> JUPT MARS VENS 29-10-2006

> JUPT MARS SUN 15-11-2006

> JUPT MARS MOON 13-12-2006

> JUPT RAHU RAHU 23- 4-2007

> JUPT RAHU JUPT 18- 8-2007

> JUPT RAHU SATN 5- 1-2008

> JUPT RAHU MERC 7- 5-2008

> JUPT RAHU KETU 28- 6-2008

> JUPT RAHU VENS 22-11-2008

> JUPT RAHU SUN 5- 1-2009

>--

>Kerry page : 4

>

> VIMSOTTARI DASSA

> DASA BHUKTI ANTAR DD MM YYYY

>--

> JUPT RAHU MOON 17- 3-2009

> JUPT RAHU MARS 7- 5-2009

> ***** JUPT DASA ENDS ******

>

> ****************************************************************************

>Name : Bush

>Date Of Question : 7-10-2004 Time of Assesment : 11-31 IST

>Place of Assessment : Bhatinda Day of Assesment : THURSDAY

>Latitude : 030-12 N Longitude : 075-00 E

>Ayanash : 23.92 10th Cusp : 157.68

>Sideral Time : 12.10 Obliq : 23.44

>KP No. =249

> PLANETARY POSITION

>----

>PLANET SIGN LONGITUDE MODE NAKASHTRA PAD RASILORD NAKLORD SUBLORD

>----

>LAG VRISCIKA 24:26:32 --- JYESHTA 3 MARS MERC RAHU

>SUN KANYA 20:30:53 --- HASTA 4 MERC MOON VENS

>MON MITHUNA 29:30:51 --- PUNARVASU 3 MERC JUPT MOON

>MAR KANYA 13:15: 8 DIR HASTA 1 MERC MOON RAHU

>MER KANYA 21:38: 1 DIR HASTA 4 MERC MOON VENS

>JUP KANYA 8:49: 9 DIR UTTARPHAL 4 MERC SUN VENS

>VEN SIMHA 10:18:47 DIR MAGHA 4 SUN KETU SATN

>SAT KARAK 2:35:43 DIR PUNARVASU 4 MOON JUPT RAHU

>RAH MESHA 9: 3:14 RET ASVINI 3 MARS KETU JUPT

>KET TULA 9: 3:14 RET SVATI 1 VENS RAHU JUPT

>URA KUMBHA 9:41: 0 RET SATABHISA 1 SATN RAHU JUPT

>NEP MAKRA 18:49:31 RET SRAVANA 3 SATN MOON MERC

>PLU VRISCIKA 26: 0:14 DIR JYESHTA 3 MARS MERC RAHU

>-----

> CUSP AS PER PLACIDUS SYSTEM

>---------------------

>CUSP NO. RASI LOGTD RASILORD NAKLORD SUBLORD

>---------------------

>Lagna MINA 27|53|20 JUPT MERC SATN

>2nd VRISHA 1|20|47 VENS SUN JUPT

>3rd VRISHA 26|51|21 VENS MARS JUPT

>4rth MITHUNA 20| 2|57 MERC JUPT JUPT

>5th KARAK 15|10|30 MOON SATN JUPT

>6th SIMHA 16|48|11 SUN VENS MOON

>7th KANYA 27|53|20 MERC MARS SATN

>8th VRISCIKA 1|20|47 MARS JUPT RAHU

>9th VRISCIKA 26|51|21 MARS MERC JUPT

>10th DHANU 20| 2|57 JUPT VENS RAHU

>11th MAKRA 15|10|30 SATN MOON JUPT

>12th KUMBHA 16|48|11 SATN RAHU VENS

>---------------------

>*************************************************************

>*** RAH ***** URA ***

>* * * LAG * * *

>* * * * *NEP *

>* * 1 * * 11 * *

>* *** *** *

>* * * * * *

>* * * * * *

>* * * 12 * * *

>* 2 * MON * * * 10 *

>*** ***** ***

>* * * * * *

>*SAT * * SUN * *PLU *

>* * 3 * MAR MER JUP * 9 * *

>* *** *** *

>* * * * * *

>* * 5 * * 7 * *

>* * * 6 * * *

>* 4 * * * * 8 *

>*** VEN ***** KET ***

>*************************************************************

> RASHI

> ^L

>*************************************************************

>*** ***** ***

>* * * LAG * * *

>* * * * *URA *

>* * 2 * RAH * 11 * NEP *

>* *** *** *

>* * * * * *

>* * * * * *

>* * * 12 * * *

>* 2 * MON * * * 10 *

>*** SAT ***** ***

>* * * * * *

>*VEN * * KET * * *

>* * 3 * * 9 * *

>* *** *** *

>* * * * * *

>* * 5 * * 8 * *

>* * * 6 * * *

>* 4 * * * * 8 *

>*** SUN MAR MER JUP ***** PLU ***

>*************************************************************

> CUSP

>

>*************************************************************

>*** MAR ***** PLU ***

>* * * LAG * * *

>* * * * * *

>* * 1 * JUP * 11 * *

>* *** *** *

>* * * * * *

>* * * * * *

>* * * 12 * * *

>* 2 * MON * * KET * 10 *

>*** RAH NEP ***** URA ***

>* * * * * *

>*SUN * * * * *

>* MER VEN * 3 * * 9 * *

>* SAT *** *** *

>* * * * * *

>* * 5 * * 7 * *

>* * * 6 * * *

>* 4 * * * * 8 *

>*** ***** ***

>*************************************************************

> NAVMASA

> ^L

> VIMSOTTARI DASSA

>---

> DASA BHUKTI ANTARA DD MM YYYY

>---

> JUPT MOON MOON 17-10-2004

> JUPT MOON MARS 15-11-2004

> JUPT MOON RAHU 27- 1-2005

> JUPT MOON JUPT 1- 4-2005

> JUPT MOON SATN 17- 6-2005

> JUPT MOON MERC 25- 8-2005

> JUPT MOON KETU 23- 9-2005

> JUPT MOON VENS 13-12-2005

> JUPT MOON SUN 7- 1-2006

> JUPT MARS MARS 27- 1-2006

> JUPT MARS RAHU 17- 3-2006

> JUPT MARS JUPT 2- 5-2006

> JUPT MARS SATN 25- 6-2006

> JUPT MARS MERC 13- 8-2006

> JUPT MARS KETU 3- 9-2006

> JUPT MARS VENS 29-10-2006

> JUPT MARS SUN 15-11-2006

> JUPT MARS MOON 13-12-2006

> JUPT RAHU RAHU 23- 4-2007

> JUPT RAHU JUPT 18- 8-2007

> JUPT RAHU SATN 5- 1-2008

> JUPT RAHU MERC 7- 5-2008

> JUPT RAHU KETU 28- 6-2008

> JUPT RAHU VENS 22-11-2008

> JUPT RAHU SUN 5- 1-2009

>--

>Bush page : 4

>

> VIMSOTTARI DASSA

> DASA BHUKTI ANTAR DD MM YYYY

>--

> JUPT RAHU MOON 17- 3-2009

> JUPT RAHU MARS 7- 5-2009

> ***** JUPT DASA ENDS ******

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