2-Amar, >MarkKincaid....10/8....re.....struggles....& Solutions!

October 8, 2004

Dear Amar:

All of education is there to help us evolve in life...

Even disciplies like engineering, and medicine, whatever...all.... are there

to help us understand and function better in life....

Astrology just has this very profound, complete value that none of the other

disciplines.... have..

This is because Jyotish has in mind, the totality of life...

Each House in Jyotish includes one or other areas of the life...

So, whatever interests and involvements are going on...one's Jyotish can

help with this regard...

I used to teach meditation, exclusively a number of years ago.

And sometimes it would be frustrating when I would run into certain people

who were either closed or not yet, interested in something like

meditation...

But, with Astrology, and especially, Jyotish, to be able to relate the great

wisdoms of Jyotish, to whatever their interests...

if they're having money problems, we look at their 11th, 12th & 2nd

houses,...

if they're having love or relationship problems we look at the

'relationship' houses...

Like that, every aspect of life, has it's corresponding,....insights due to

all the different aspects of the astrol. chart...

nice talking with ya!

Sincerely,

Mark Kincaid

For those of you, who might be interested in looking at how both the Best of

Western & Eastern Astrologys, go together, feel free to check out this

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> "fas fas" <foreignersassistance

> valist

> Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:57:05 +0000

> valist

> Re: 2-Amar,

> >MarkKincaid....9/28....re....."struggles"....&Solutions!

>

> Dear Mark,

>

> You wrote ;

>

> knowing 'those' allows us to take our road, more smoothly....

>

> My concern ;

>

> knowing 'those' unknown danger and difficulties lies ahead may allow us to

> take our road, more smoothly ..................hmmmmm

>

> All glory to Shri Guru and Guranga.

>

> With my best wishes....................Amar Puri.

>

>> Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid

>> valist

>> <valist>

>> Re: 2-Amar,

>>> MarkKincaid....9/28....re....."struggles"....&Solutions!

>> Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:12:53 -0500

>>

>> dear fas:

>>

>> And to me, all those sorts of differences,......

>>

>> one takes this road, one takes another....

>>

>> these are all the beautiful differences and uniquenesses or our charts...

>>

>> knowing 'those' allows us to take our road, more smoothly....

>>

>> Jai Guru

>>

>> Mark K.

>>

>>> "fas fas" <foreignersassistance

>>> valist

>>> Wed, 29 Sep 2004 19:01:50 +0000

>>> valist

>>> RE: 2-Amar, >

>>> MarkKincaid....9/28....re....."struggles"....&Solutions!

>>>

>>> Yes, dear Mark, I agree with the expression, " all roads lead to Rome

>>> "..........

>>>

>>> But, how and what sort of difficulties or without them one arrives at

>> the

>>> destination makes the whole world wide difference.

>>>

>>> Hari Bol.

>>>

>>> With my best wishes and regards.................Amar Puri.

>>>

>>>> Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid

>>>> valist

>>>> <valist>

>>>> 2-Amar, >

>>>> MarkKincaid....9/28....re....."struggles"....&Solutions!

>>>> Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:13:52 -0500

>>>>

>>>> dear Fas/Amar:

>>>>

>>>> That's why I like that expression, 'all roads lead to Rome'...

>>>>

>>>> And why I believe, the Hindu or Vedic ideal of honoring everyone's

>> paths,

>>>> is

>>>> so powerful, and 'right'....

>>>>

>>>> I only mention my path, to give expression to my experiences,...

>>>> and as I've walked this wonderful Jyotish, path, which helps us all,

>> with

>>>> all of our questions....

>>>>

>>>> we can make the path, sweeter....

>>>>

>>>> I was just thinking today, Jyotish is especially, profound because it's

>>>> able

>>>> to answer for people, the details of their questions....

>>>>

>>>> That's been especially valuable for me, too...

>>>>

>>>> It's a comfort on the path, to understand 'intellectually',... as well

>> as

>>>> spiritually, in faith...

>>>> or in consciousness...

>>>>

>>>> take care

>>>>

>>>> all my best

>>>>

>>>> Mark Kincaid

>>>>

>>>> Founder Starlight Unlimited, a business, promoting Jyotish into all

>> areas

>>>> of

>>>> life.

>>>> Nature's Astrology: / a

>>>> ,

>>>> looking at the best of Western & Eastern Astrologys, and how we can

>>>> encourage

>>>> a development of a true, modern day Science of Astrology

>>>> and new :

>>>> kincaidmark/ for those who want more

>> formal

>>>> Jyotish.

>>>>

>>>>> "fas fas" <foreignersassistance

>>>>> valist

>>>>> Sat, 25 Sep 2004 23:42:54 +0000

>>>>> valist

>>>>> RE: 2-Amar, >

>>>>> MarkKincaid....9/25....re.....das'....."struggles"....& Solutions!

>>>>>

>>>>> Hello dear Mark,

>>>>>

>>>>> Hare Krishna. I must admit that I am not a Philospher. I am a fool

>>>> number

>>>>> one simply trying to understand Bhagavad Gita. That is why I could

>> not

>>>> find

>>>>> what type of slightly different take on you have on my message which I

>>>> wrote

>>>>> as ;

>>>>>

>>>>> Hello dear Mark,

>>>>>

>>>>> Hare Krishna.

>>>>>

>>>>> Only with the knowledge of HOW TO DEVELOP LOVE OF GOD WITH PROPER

>>>> SPIRITUAL

>>>>> ACTIVITIES can we rise progressively above the Laws of Karma, and

>> learn

>>>> to

>>>>> surrender to the creator Shri Krishna which is the ultimate goal of

>>>> human

>>>>> form of life.

>>>>>

>>>>> THE ASTROLOGY IS THE VITAL TOOL OF KNOWING OUR DESTINY, AND ITS'

>> PURPOSE

>>>>> IS TO DEVELOP SUCH LOVE OF GOD IF GUIDED BY THE COMPETENT ASTROLOGER.

>>>>>

>>>>> Yes, indeed, understanding one's own chart and transforming life by

>>>>> understanding further to develop the devotional service to the Supreme

>>>>> Personality of Godhead, Shri Krishna are the key factors in the Human

>>>> form

>>>>> of life as advised by Shri Krishna HIMSELF in the Bhagavad Gita.

>>>>>

>>>>> Hari Bol. OM TAT SAT.

>>>>>

>>>>> In my message above, I am quoting simply from the Bhagavad Gita As

>> It

>>>> Is

>>>>> but your message / answer to my writting is no where to be found in

>> the

>>>>> Bhagavad Gita.

>>>>>

>>>>> Can you please give reference or quote from the Bhagavad Gita in

>>>> support to

>>>>> what you are saying ?

>>>>>

>>>>> Hari Bol. OM TAT SAT.

>>>>>

>>>>> With my best wishes.......................Amar Puri.

>>>>>

>>>>>> Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid

>>>>>> valist

>>>>>> <valist>

>>>>>> 2-Amar, >

>>>>>> MarkKincaid....9/25....re.....das'....."struggles"....& Solutions!

>>>>>> Sat, 25 Sep 2004 14:08:07 -0500

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Dear Amar:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I have a slightly different take on what you said, below.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> My guru, his holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, of tm, fame, has always

>>>>>> said...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> the key to 'enlightenment', is developing pure consciousness, along

>>>> with

>>>>>> waking, dreaming and sleeping.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> This is accomplished by regular periods of deep meditation each day.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Haveing meditated, now for over 30 years, I can give great testament

>> to

>>>>>> that

>>>>>> power.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> As far as God Realization goes, Maharishi says, the first step is

>>>> Cosmci

>>>>>> Consciousness.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Unfolding a steady, constant, inner support of pure consciousness,

>>>> then,

>>>>>> "find your heart melting in the refinement of Cosmic consciousness,

>> in

>>>> God

>>>>>> Consciousness."

>>>>>>

>>>>>> For the Maharishi, devotion is a matter of personal experience.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> As the mind enters into the finer realms of the Cosmic mind, in

>>>> meditation,

>>>>>> then, one comes upon, the direct experience of the living, breathing,

>>>>>> being,

>>>>>> of the Self, of the Universe...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> each step along the path, towards that wonderful reality, then, melts

>>>> the

>>>>>> heart, and develps the desire for more Oneness...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> You may have heard of the Maharishi's great translation of the

>>>>>> Bhagavad-gita, which goes into even, a lot more detail about how to

>>>> develop

>>>>>> Unity & God Consciousness.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I like also what you say about Jyotish:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> THE ASTROLOGY IS THE VITAL TOOL OF KNOWING OUR DESTINY, AND ITS'

>>>> PURPOSE

>>>>>>> IS TO DEVELOP SUCH LOVE OF GOD IF GUIDED BY THE COMPETENT

>> ASTROLOGER.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I'm reminded too of what my Maharishi has said.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "When the aspirant, has investigated into the Nature of Reality, and

>>>> has

>>>>>> fathomed the Absolute and the Relative, he becomes like an admirer,

>> of

>>>> a

>>>>>> great Artist.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> When the Artist, (and in this case, God), hear's the great

>>>> appreciations of

>>>>>> his art, he wants to meet, such a person....

>>>>>>

>>>>>> In this case, the Lord God, comes to those, who have developed a keen

>>>> eye,

>>>>>> and wisdom as to the creation....

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Jyotish has been like that for me.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> As I've become more and more knowledgeable, really about every aspect

>>>> of

>>>>>> it,

>>>>>> it's insights and perceptions as to how 'reality' works,....has made

>> me

>>>>>> feel

>>>>>> like that appreciative, student of art....

>>>>>>

>>>>>> And now, through this devotion, I find the love of the Creator,

>>>> ...growing,

>>>>>> and blossoming,....within...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Jai Guru!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Jai Krishna!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Mark Kincaid

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Founder Starlight Unlimited, business developed to promote practical

>>>>>> applications

>>>>>> of Jyotish to every day life.

>>>>>> Nature's Astrology: /

>>>>>> is a look at the best of Western & Eastern Astrologys, and how we can

>>>>>> encourage

>>>>>> a development of a true, modern day Science of Astrology,

>>>>>> and new :

>>>>>> kincaidmark/ for those who want more

>>>> formal

>>>>>> jyotish.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "fas fas" <foreignersassistance

>>>>>>> valist

>>>>>>> Sat, 25 Sep 2004 18:37:07 +0000

>>>>>>> valist

>>>>>>> RE: 2-Amar, > Mark

>>>>>>> Kincaid....9/25....re.....das'....."struggles"....& Solutions!

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Hello dear Mark,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Hare Krishna.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Only with the knowledge of HOW TO DEVELOP LOVE OF GOD WITH PROPER

>>>>>> SPIRITUAL

>>>>>>> ACTIVITIES can we rise progressively above the Laws of Karma, and

>>>> learn

>>>>>> to

>>>>>>> surrender to the creator Shri Krishna which is the ultimate goal of

>>>>>> human

>>>>>>> form of life.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> THE ASTROLOGY IS THE VITAL TOOL OF KNOWING OUR DESTINY, AND ITS'

>>>> PURPOSE

>>>>>>> IS TO DEVELOP SUCH LOVE OF GOD IF GUIDED BY THE COMPETENT

>> ASTROLOGER.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Yes, indeed, understanding one's own chart and transforming life by

>>>>>>> understanding further to develop the devotional service to the

>> Supreme

>>>>>>> Personality of Godhead, Shri Krishna are the key factors in the

>> Human

>>>>>> form

>>>>>>> of life as advised by Shri Krishna HIMSELF in the Bhagavad Gita.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Hari Bol. OM TAT SAT.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> With my best wishes.....................................Amar Puri.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid

>>>>>>>> valist

>>>>>>>> <valist>

>>>>>>>> 2-Amar, > Mark

>>>>>>>> Kincaid....9/25....re.....das'....."struggles"....& Solutions!

>>>>>>>> Sat, 25 Sep 2004 09:00:06 -0500

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Dear Amar:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> My only addition, to your further thoughts and insights,....

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> is once we find the Planets and/or Jyotish configurations, that are

>>>>>>>> probably, causeing or reflecting our challenges,...

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> then, I believe we should quickly move into what I like to call the

>>>>>>>> 'TRANSFORMATIVE' aspect of Jyotish.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> We should think there are 2 primary aspects...

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> #1 Understanding....our charts.... and

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> #2 Transforming, ....our charts....

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> When I first started studying Jyotish, many years ago, you'd pick

>> up

>>>>>> any

>>>>>>>> book on Jyotish and there might be 195 pages on the 'Jyotish', (or

>>>>>>>> Understanding), and then tacked on at the end, almost like an after

>>>>>>>> thought,

>>>>>>>> would be 5 pages on remedial measures...

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Now, I realize, once we find the Jyotish configurations that are

>>>>>> probably

>>>>>>>> responsible for our sufferings...

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> then, let's quickly moves into whatever we can do, to literally,

>>>>>>>> strengthen,

>>>>>>>> and transform, that 'functionally malefic' situation!

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> This is my favorite part of Jyotish...

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> First because it's sooooo practical,...but

>>>>>>>> also because it's the aspect of Jyotish which is so sorely, not

>>>>>> practiced,

>>>>>>>> enough....

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> We can also hear in our words and experiences, what Planets are

>>>>>> probably

>>>>>>>> responsible...

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> o Sufferings, losses, grief, sadness, delays, disappointments,

>> and

>>>>>>>> frustrations....?....

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> A Probably Saturn!

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> o Accidents, fights, quarrels, thievery, angry, etc....

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> A Probably Mars!

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Why it's good to learn to identify the Planet that's causing us our

>>>>>>>> hardships?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Because once we find out, then, by directly improving that Planet,

>>>> it's

>>>>>>>> like

>>>>>>>> the Planets represent these unique, power stations, in the body and

>>>>>>>> mind,...

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> and once we learn to trigger them,....for GOOD!,...

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> then, we can make great spiritual changes!

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> take care

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Mark Kincaid

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Founder Starlight Unlimited, business developed to promote

>> practical

>>>>>>>> applications

>>>>>>>> of Jyotish to every day life.

>>>>>>>> Nature's Astrology:

>> /

>>>>>>>> is a look at the best of Western & Eastern Astrologys, and how we

>> can

>>>>>>>> encourage

>>>>>>>> a development of a true, modern day Science of Astrology,

>>>>>>>> and new :

>>>>>>>> kincaidmark/ for those who want more

>>>>>> formal

>>>>>>>> jyotish.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "fas fas" <foreignersassistance

>>>>>>>>> valist

>>>>>>>>> Sat, 25 Sep 2004 01:32:34 +0000

>>>>>>>>> valist

>>>>>>>>> RE: 2-das, > Mark

>> Kincaid....9/24....re.....das'....."

>>>>>>>>> Mystruggle"....

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I wrote in my message earlier;

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> AS PER SA, MOON, SATURN AND JUPITER BESIDES MERCURY, RAHU AND KETU

>>>> ARE

>>>>>>>> ALL

>>>>>>>>> BENEFIC PLANETS BUT WEAK DUE TO ITS DISPOSITORS AND AFFLICTIONS

>> ETC.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Where as it should read;

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> AS PER SA, MOON, SATURN AND JUPITER except MERCURY, RAHU AND KETU

>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>> becomes funtional malefics, ARE ALL BENEFIC PLANETS BUT WEAK DUE

>> TO

>>>>>> ITS

>>>>>>>>> DISPOSITORS AND AFFLICTIONS ETC. in Das's chart.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the inconvenience. Your comments are welcome.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Hari Bol.......................Amar Puri.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "fas fas" <foreignersassistance

>>>>>>>>>> valist

>>>>>>>>>> RE: 2-das, > Mark

>>>> Kincaid....9/24....re.....das'....."

>>>>>>>>>> Mystruggle"....

>>>>>>>>>> Fri, 24 Sep 2004 23:57:22 +0000

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Hello dear Mark and List Members,

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Hare Krishna. I would like to give point of views in CAP.

>> letter

>>>>>>>> appended

>>>>>>>>>> below Mark's message based on SA. which I am sure it will shed

>>>> some

>>>>>>>>>> additional insights on Das's chart for further discussion.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Hari Bol........................Amar Puri.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid

>>>>>>>>>>> valist

>>>>>>>>>>> <valist>

>>>>>>>>>>> 2-das, > Mark Kincaid....9/24....re.....das'....."

>>>>>>>>>>> Mystruggle"....

>>>>>>>>>>> Fri, 24 Sep 2004 14:11:02 -0500

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Das:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I'm very happy you appreciated the thoughts regarding Sani.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Saturn, to me, represents the hardest part of Jyotish/life.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> IT DEPENDS UPON THE FUNTIONAL NATURE OF THE PLANET ACCORDING TO

>> THE

>>>>>>>>>> ASCENDANT. IN DAS'S CHART SHANI IS A FUNCTIONAL BENEFIC WHICH IS

>>>>>>>> PROVED BY

>>>>>>>>>> THE STATEMENT BELOW BY MARK.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Though I know some people, who have better Sani's in their

>> charts,

>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>> they're 'lessons' aren't so extreme.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> YES, IT IS DUE TO THE FUNCTIONAL BENEFIC NATURE OF SANI WHICH

>> LOOKS

>>>>>>>> LIKE

>>>>>>>>>> UNAFFLICTED BENEFIC SANI IN THAT CHART AS REFERRED ABOVE.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I understand why Astrology calls Saturn, the 'lesson

>>>> giver'....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> See below:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Das Goravani <>

>>>>>>>>>>>> valist

>>>>>>>>>>>> Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:57:05 -0700

>>>>>>>>>>>> <valist>,

>>>>>> <dasgoravaniswritings>

>>>>>>>>>>>> My struggle

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Mark K., for your message about Saturn.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I used to be an explosion of activity daily, and it was very

>>>>>> focused,

>>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>>> successful. Whatever I attempted worked well. I used to employ

>>>>>>>>>> friends,

>>>>>>>>>>> got

>>>>>>>>>>>> much done, and felt happy. I had faith in Vishnu¹s existence,

>> and

>>>>>>>> felt

>>>>>>>>>>> clear

>>>>>>>>>>>> about just about everything, so I thought.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> When we can see or point to the qualities of our actions, that

>> may

>>>>>>>> have

>>>>>>>>>>> been

>>>>>>>>>>> responsible

>>>>>>>>>>> for our present 'griefs',....this is almost the complete ball

>>>>>> game...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Those who can't see, or refuse to accept, even when friends, or

>>>>>> life,

>>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>>>>> trying to show then,...

>>>>>>>>>>> their ...'whys'.... are even more lost....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Then slowly in Sani Dasha, especially Saturn/Venus, it was

>> taken

>>>>>>>> apart

>>>>>>>>>>>> inside me. I began to lose faith, then I lost marriage,

>>>> businesses,

>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>>> happiness.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> YES, IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE AFFLICTED SATURN AND VENUS BY RAHU IN

>>>> YOUR

>>>>>>>>>> CHART,

>>>>>>>>>> DAS PRABHU. SATURN AND VENUS ARE BENEFIC PLANETS IN YOUR CHART

>> BUT

>>>>>> DUE

>>>>>>>> TO

>>>>>>>>>> THE ASPECT OF RAHU, IT BECOMES AFFLICTED AND THE EFFECT

>> FRUCTIFIED

>>>>>>>> DURING

>>>>>>>>>> THEIR SUB PERIOD AS CONFIRMED ABOVE.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I've already told you my Sani story, and now since I've finally

>>>> come

>>>>>>>> out

>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>> the dark, Saturn tunnel, I can say with more confidence,

>> that....

>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>> extent

>>>>>>>>>>> to which we suffer, is in direct proportion, to how much

>> attention

>>>>>> we

>>>>>>>>>> need

>>>>>>>>>>> to put on Sani, for example.....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Eventually I got really depressed, more and more. I turned to

>>>>>>>>>>>> substances for assistance, on a steady basis.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Although losing slowly my material and mental stability, I did

>>>> gain

>>>>>>>>>> more

>>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>>> more insight into other things, specifically history as well as

>>>>>>>>>>> ³seeing², or

>>>>>>>>>>>> psychic ability, astrological ability.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> IT WAS DUE TO THE FACT THAT LAGNA LORD MARS CONTROLS THE 8H OF

>> CULT

>>>>>>>> SCIENCE

>>>>>>>>>> OCCUPYING IN 12H GAVE YOU INSIGHTS REFERRED ABOVE BESIDES THE

>> CLOSE

>>>>>>>> ASPECT

>>>>>>>>>> OF JUPITER TO THE ASCENDANT AND CONJUNCTION TO 9H AT MOST

>> EFFECTIVE

>>>>>>>> POINT.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Nowadays I struggle to exist, materially and mentally. It¹s

>>>> really

>>>>>>>>>>>> questionable whether I will make it in either. I type from a

>>>> very

>>>>>>>>>> aged

>>>>>>>>>>>> computer, through a phone line that could be turned off in not

>>>> too

>>>>>>>>>> long,

>>>>>>>>>>>> from an apartment I cannot rent even for this coming month.

>> It¹s

>>>>>>>>>> almost

>>>>>>>>>>>> over.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> IT IS DUE TO THE TRANSIT INFLUENCE OF THE PLANETS IN YOUR NATAL

>>>>>> CHART.

>>>>>>>> FOR

>>>>>>>>>> EXAMPLE AT PRESENT TRANSIT KETU AFFLICTS YOUR NATAL MOON WEAKEN

>>>> DUE

>>>>>> TO

>>>>>>>> ITS

>>>>>>>>>> DISPOSITOR AFFLICTED SATURN YOUR MAIN PERIOD LORD TRANSITTING IN

>>>>>>>> INFANCY IN

>>>>>>>>>> 4H OF WEAK BENEFIC AFFLICTED MOON (KARKA OF EMOTIONS OF ALL

>> TYPES)

>>>>>> WITH

>>>>>>>> THE

>>>>>>>>>> SUB PERIOD LORD JUPITER IN ASSOCIATION WITH TRANSIT SUN

>>>> (CONTROLLING

>>>>>>>> BRAIN)

>>>>>>>>>> AND MARS YOUR LAGNA LORD IN THE MALEFIC 6H OF MERCURY (KARKA OF

>>>>>> NERVES

>>>>>>>> AND

>>>>>>>>>> COMMUNICATIVE CAPABILITIES CONTROLS BY BRAIN) CREATING ALL SORTS

>>>> OF

>>>>>>>>>> OBSTRUCTIONS AND DIFFICULTIES BESIDES THE AFFLICTION OF RAHU TO

>>>> NATAL

>>>>>>>>>> JUPITER YOUR SUB PERIOD LORD IN THE TRANSIT OF 6H ARE THE

>> REASONS

>>>> OF

>>>>>>>>>> PROBLEMS AS DESCRIBED BY YOU. YOU REQUIRE A LOT OF PATIENCE TO

>> LET

>>>>>>>> THIS

>>>>>>>>>> TRANSIT PASS.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> It is noteworthy in my chart that the moon is slammed by Saturn

>>>> in

>>>>>>>>>> both

>>>>>>>>>>> Rasi

>>>>>>>>>>>> and Navamsa, and Saturn is exactly 9th from Venus, and exactly

>> on

>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>> midheaven, while at the same time Jupiter is exactly 9th from

>>>>>> lagna.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> AS PER SA, MOON, SATURN AND JUPITER BESIDES MERCURY, RAHU AND

>> KETU

>>>>>> ARE

>>>>>>>> ALL

>>>>>>>>>> BENEFIC PLANETS BUT WEAK DUE TO ITS DISPOSITORS AND AFFLICTIONS

>>>> ETC.

>>>>>>>>>> THEREFORE, ABOVE DOES HOLD A LITTLE SIGNIFICANCE WHEN THEY DO

>>>>>> INTERACT

>>>>>>>> IN

>>>>>>>>>> TRANSIT BUT NOT MUCH DUE TO ITS WEAKNESS AS THE WEAK PLANETS CAN

>>>> NOT

>>>>>>>>>> PROTECT

>>>>>>>>>> AND PROMOTE ITS SIGNIFICANCE.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> It's very important, I think, to be able to find the Jyotish

>>>>>> 'reasons'

>>>>>>>>>> why

>>>>>>>>>>> we're suffering in the ways that we are...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> This is the first important part of Jyotish...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> However, even more important than this,....where our suffering

>> is

>>>>>>>> coming

>>>>>>>>>>> from....

>>>>>>>>>>> is the knowledge of how we can strengthen ....in this

>>>> case....Sani!

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I can admit that I have been experiencing very high sexual lust

>>>> for

>>>>>>>>>>> decades,

>>>>>>>>>>>> up until rather recently. That has been a problem. I am happy

>>>> that

>>>>>>>>>>> insight

>>>>>>>>>>>> is helping finally to see through that one.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> But I suppose more than anything the ³manic² nature of my

>> nervous

>>>>>>>>>>> system,

>>>>>>>>>>>> which operates ³hot and fast² is the root cause of my suffering

>>>> on

>>>>>> a

>>>>>>>>>>>> material level. This letter sounds cool, but when I leave the

>>>>>>>>>> keyboard,

>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>> mental ³chatter² will resume. I agree that calmness and cool,

>>>> slow

>>>>>>>>>>> being

>>>>>>>>>>>> and thinking is the key for me, as it was for Mark. I have to

>>>>>> really

>>>>>>>>>>>> struggle to be calm, and act, just act, in a cool thought out

>>>>>> manner.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> This struggling is only because we're relatively new to living

>>>> from

>>>>>>>>>>> silence....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> And I, too had a better Jupiter then my Sani, so it was easy to

>>>>>> glide,

>>>>>>>> on

>>>>>>>>>>> the power of Jupiter.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> But, Sani periods, even Sani transits, show us, really, how

>>>> powerful

>>>>>>>> we

>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>> in the particular flavors of 'Saturn',....and when our

>>>>>> symptoms....are

>>>>>>>>>>> malefic....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> that's nature's way of showing us, how we're doing...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I know it's depressing, even, being depressed,..... but know

>>>> this...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> there is a beautiful light at the end of the tunnel...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> and the particular Saturn light,....is extremely bright and

>>>>>> lovely...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't have thought possible, during the first 5 or 6 years

>> of

>>>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>> Saturn

>>>>>>>>>>> Mahadasa,

>>>>>>>>>>> but now, after spending a lot of time and energy,....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> studying and then, surrendering to Sani's graces, now...I can

>>>>>> say....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> the light is wonderful!

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> The

>>>>>>>>>>>> jumpy, fidgety, freaked out, mumbling, crying, just ³freaking

>>>> out²

>>>>>>>>>>> mental

>>>>>>>>>>>> chatter is really intense, and always with me. That¹s the

>>>>>>>> thing...it¹s

>>>>>>>>>>>> always there. That¹s what¹s hard for people who lose it. They

>>>> hear

>>>>>>>>>> too

>>>>>>>>>>> much

>>>>>>>>>>>> in their heads.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I am trying so many things, including the prescribed things

>> like

>>>>>>>>>>> Lithium,

>>>>>>>>>>>> but in the end these days I¹m coming around to ³it¹s up to me

>> to

>>>>>> fix

>>>>>>>>>>> me².

>>>>>>>>>>>> I¹ve called out like crazy but it seems nobody else can fix me.

>>>>>> I¹m

>>>>>>>>>>> still

>>>>>>>>>>>> alone, and more rejected than ever by most who know me. I¹m

>>>> poorer

>>>>>>>>>> than

>>>>>>>>>>>> I¹ve ever been, and have a harder time focusing my mind than I

>>>> have

>>>>>>>>>> ever

>>>>>>>>>>>> had. I really wonder if I will survive much longer generally.

>>>> I¹m

>>>>>>>>>>> trying.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I¹ve come around to zero substance, of all types, period. I

>>>>>> can¹t

>>>>>>>>>>> take

>>>>>>>>>>>> it anymore. It¹s an impediment for sure.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I would say in all honesty, at the risk of being judged, that I

>>>>>> have

>>>>>>>>>>> been

>>>>>>>>>>>> given much, and the price tag is the appearance of suffering.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> You have been given, 'much' means you've deserved it...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Your great Jupiter, in Sagittarius, lord of the 9th, in the 9th

>> is

>>>>>>>> such

>>>>>>>>>> an

>>>>>>>>>>> amazing....Yoga!

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Like me, and I had a better Jupiter too, Jupiter in Pisces, in

>> my

>>>>>>>> 6th....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> But, taking on the challenge of Saturn....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> will mean, once you get out of the dark tunnel, and into Sani's

>>>>>>>> light...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> you'll have more compassion, and joy, ...especially for

>>>>>>>>>> others,....because

>>>>>>>>>>> you've been there...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> You'll make an especially, heart warming teacher,....with that

>>>>>>>>>>> experience....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I say

>>>>>>>>>>>> appearance because on one level I¹m not suffering. On an inner

>>>>>>>> level,

>>>>>>>>>>> I¹m

>>>>>>>>>>>> overjoyed, because I have been allowed to see through the

>>>> illusion.

>>>>>>>>>> Not

>>>>>>>>>>> only

>>>>>>>>>>>> a spiritual vision, but even subtle material seeing is mine. I

>>>>>> think

>>>>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>>>>>> order to be in that world, you cannot be in this other one,

>> this

>>>>>> dull

>>>>>>>>>>> one of

>>>>>>>>>>>> money making, surviving, rising in material goods and life, and

>>>> so

>>>>>>>> on.

>>>>>>>>>>> It¹s

>>>>>>>>>>>> kindof one or the other. The more you go one way, the more you

>>>> lose

>>>>>>>> on

>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>> other side.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Again, your great Jupiter is responsible for this great gift....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> and you've created that, and therefore deserve it too....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Though gratitude, towards life, or other Gurus, for helping

>> us....

>>>>>> can

>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate...

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I can see all of Western history from Rome forward in sweeping

>>>>>> arrays

>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>>> mindsets and attitude changes, right on up to the present, and

>>>> that

>>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>>>>>> really special to me. I can see what has formed the people

>> around

>>>>>> me,

>>>>>>>>>>> from a

>>>>>>>>>>>> historical viewpoint, and that is amazing. So it¹s not all

>>>>>>>> suffering.

>>>>>>>>>>> But

>>>>>>>>>>>> it¹s hard to care about the mundane with such a mind. I wish I

>>>> was

>>>>>>>>>>> secure

>>>>>>>>>>>> somewhere materially, so that I could go on with what I do

>> well,

>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>>>>>> study, write, art, talk to others. In person, people find me

>>>>>>>>>>> interesting. I

>>>>>>>>>>>> would like to teach young people, say high school, or better,

>>>>>>>> college,

>>>>>>>>>>> about

>>>>>>>>>>>> Western history and Spirituality.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I do struggle, right now today, for my sanity. This is very

>> hard.

>>>>>>>>>> Mental

>>>>>>>>>>>> dis-ease, is very hard. It actually is quite painful, and you

>>>>>> cannot

>>>>>>>>>>>> understand this unless you¹ve had it. To the extent that you

>>>> have

>>>>>>>>>> ³gone

>>>>>>>>>>>> mad² yourself, only to that extent can you imagine the mental

>>>>>> anquish

>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>>> another who suffers in that way. It¹s something you cannot

>>>>>> explain.

>>>>>>>>>> It

>>>>>>>>>>> must

>>>>>>>>>>>> be experienced. People who work in mental health with those

>> who

>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>> screaming in paranoia, fear and complete pain, cutting

>> themselves

>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>>> wanting to die, freaking out is hysteria, sweat, tears, and so

>>>>>>>>>>> on...those

>>>>>>>>>>>> workers too have some idea. But for those of us in it, or

>>>>>> struggling

>>>>>>>>>>>> against the demon of insanity, we alone know that it is PAIN,

>> and

>>>>>> not

>>>>>>>>>>> just

>>>>>>>>>>>> ³weird thinking². It¹s extremely painful to feel that you are

>> on

>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>> wrong

>>>>>>>>>>>> planet, or imprisoned in a body, really feel that, or feel that

>>>> you

>>>>>>>>>> will

>>>>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>>>>> persecuted to the point of death, etc. It¹s extremely painful.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I can see that the world is boiling in a reactionary stew of

>>>> karmic

>>>>>>>>>> war.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Because one time someone hurt someone else, the echo of that

>> goes

>>>>>>>> down

>>>>>>>>>>>> through the generations of persons on both sides of that

>> original

>>>>>>>>>> battle

>>>>>>>>>>> or

>>>>>>>>>>>> hurt. Everyone is born with a problem in them, a grudge, a

>>>> mental

>>>>>>>>>>> problem,

>>>>>>>>>>>> an attitude, and the war goes on. It makes me appreciate how

>>>>>> Jesus¹s

>>>>>>>>>>>> solution was ³turn the other cheek² and ³Love your enemy².

>>>>>>>> Somewhere,

>>>>>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>>>>>> other words, along the line of history, we have to put the past

>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>> rest

>>>>>>>>>>> by

>>>>>>>>>>>> forgiveness. We have to stop the karmicly rich battles that

>> just

>>>>>>>>>>> continue

>>>>>>>>>>>> the pain and suffering.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> The chuckles I get internally because of my intense ability to

>>>> see

>>>>>>>>>>> truth,

>>>>>>>>>>>> see through the illusion, are welcomed and fun and nice. The

>>>> price

>>>>>>>>>> tag

>>>>>>>>>>> for

>>>>>>>>>>>> this vision is not at all nice. I have to live with both.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Just don't forget, it's not your wonderful 'ability to see

>>>>>>>>>> truth',...that's

>>>>>>>>>>> the problem,..

>>>>>>>>>>> it's not having quite enough wisdom, yet, of Saturn.... that's

>>>>>>>>>>> responsible...for the sufferings...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe what you're also meaning is perhaps, because the two,

>>>> Jupiter

>>>>>> &

>>>>>>>>>>> Saturn

>>>>>>>>>>> are so close,

>>>>>>>>>>> that you thought the wisdom of the one, was enough....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I think that was true, a little for me...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Because of my 'ok' Jupiter,....in Pisces in 6th, looking at my

>>>> Moon,

>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>> Saturn, in the 12th....

>>>>>>>>>>> I remember thinking .... my love of God....was soooo intense,

>>>> ....it

>>>>>>>>>> should

>>>>>>>>>>> be enough...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> That's why it was particularly hard for me to see, the source of

>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>> sufferings for so long...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> That's where Jyotish helped me emmensely......

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Learning that we have both a Jupiter and a Saturn,....sense, or

>>>>>> parts

>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>> us....helped me see, yes, I'm okay, with Jupiter but not strong

>>>>>> enough

>>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>>>>> Saturn's wisdoms....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> When I see an ad that shows a pretty blonde and says ³Get the

>>>> home

>>>>>> or

>>>>>>>>>>> car of

>>>>>>>>>>>> your dreams² etc., I see history so clearly, and the attitudes

>> of

>>>>>>>>>>> conquest,

>>>>>>>>>>>> plunder and greed that were a part of the blonde history since

>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>> dawn

>>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>>> that race¹s departure from Scandinavia. It¹s so very clear.

>> And

>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>> ³American Dream² is based on that mainly ³Engle² view of life.

>>>>>> It¹s

>>>>>>>>>> not

>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>> view held by Indian Brahmins, for example, or Muslims, or many

>>>>>>>> others.

>>>>>>>>>>> It¹s

>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly of a certain race, and that race rules the world.

>> I

>>>>>> can

>>>>>>>>>>>> establish this historically clearly, I believe.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> When I see many Americans in their huge SUV¹s despite waning

>>>>>> supplies

>>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>>> rising prices of petrol, I cannot believe how this attitude

>> lives

>>>>>> on

>>>>>>>>>>> today.

>>>>>>>>>>>> But it does. I stand on the street these days, dressed like

>>>>>>>>>> Braveheart,

>>>>>>>>>>>> holding a ³Vote for Kerry² sign, and these people give me the

>>>> bird

>>>>>>>>>> (flip

>>>>>>>>>>> me

>>>>>>>>>>>> off) (insult me). They do not understand that THEY are the

>>>>>>>>>> terrorists,

>>>>>>>>>>> not

>>>>>>>>>>>> the Muslims. They have always been the terrorists, and still

>>>> are.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> As we torture Iraq for no good reason except greed and fear,

>> led

>>>> by

>>>>>>>>>>>> businessmen who are unbelievably insensitive, uncaring,

>>>>>> unspiritual,

>>>>>>>>>>>> irreligious, and simply bad demons, my mental suffering

>>>> increases.

>>>>>>>>>> The

>>>>>>>>>>>> world has enough for all of us, but not our greed. So when I

>> see

>>>>>> fat

>>>>>>>>>>>> American republicans in their SUV¹s, I suffer. I suffer to be

>> an

>>>>>>>>>>> American

>>>>>>>>>>>> nowadays, under Bush. It¹s awful.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I suffer that the teachings of Christ are used by these people

>> as

>>>>>> if

>>>>>>>>>>> THEY

>>>>>>>>>>>> are Christians. What a joke. The cross used to be a symbol

>> used

>>>>>> ³by

>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>> little oppressed ones² to show their solidarity with those who

>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>> killed by

>>>>>>>>>>>> Rome, the all powerful oppressor... Now it¹s often the symbol

>> of

>>>>>> rich

>>>>>>>>>>> white

>>>>>>>>>>>> so called Christians like Bush. Bush-Shite!

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> God Bless America. This term makes me suffer. God, if He

>>>> exists,

>>>>>>>>>> will

>>>>>>>>>>>> bless whomever he chooses, and I predict that Iraq will

>>>> eventually

>>>>>>>>>> fall

>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>> ³those Muslim insurgent terrorists² just as Vietnam fell to

>> those

>>>>>> who

>>>>>>>>>>> REALLY

>>>>>>>>>>>> live there.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> By the way, I see America as the terrorists, and the

>> ³Insurgents,

>>>>>>>>>>>> terrorists² as Bush calls them, as homeboys (Arabs) trying to

>>>> stop

>>>>>> a

>>>>>>>>>>> massive

>>>>>>>>>>>> Roman army from constantly bombarding their homelands,

>>>> threatening

>>>>>>>>>> their

>>>>>>>>>>>> safety, threatening their temples, religious leaders, way of

>>>> life,

>>>>>>>>>> right

>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>> practice their way of life, etc., just as the ancient Celts

>> tried

>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>> fight

>>>>>>>>>>>> off Rome. When you are bombed from above by invisible

>> airplanes,

>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself have no such technology or organized army because you

>>>>>> spent

>>>>>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>>>>>> life on other things... Of course you resort to guerilla

>> tactics.

>>>>>>>>>>> America

>>>>>>>>>>>> did this against Britain in the early days. Has our president

>> and

>>>>>> has

>>>>>>>>>>> our

>>>>>>>>>>>> country forgotten that we too, as a country, were ³terrorists².

>>>> We

>>>>>>>>>>>> supported French ³Terrorists² against the Hitler regime. We

>>>>>> support

>>>>>>>>>>> them in

>>>>>>>>>>>> many countries, including all over Africa, South America, and

>> in

>>>>>> Arab

>>>>>>>>>>>> Nations as well.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> All of this makes me suffer. I ponder it and I go into

>> insanity.

>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>> cannot

>>>>>>>>>>>> NOT think about it. Practically I suffer FOR the world. I

>> feel

>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>> pain of

>>>>>>>>>>>> others, and understand them. I sympathize. Then I cannot

>> work.

>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>> can

>>>>>>>>>>> only

>>>>>>>>>>>> do art, or protest, or cry.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps it is your Moon, in the good 11th house, that makes you

>>>>>>>> sensitive

>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>> others...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe it's the good Jupiter, that really is very

>> compassionate,

>>>>>> by

>>>>>>>>>>> nature....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Whatever the reason,.... feeling compassion,

>>>>>>>>>>> but not being able to maintain your own bliss.....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> are two different things...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Compassion, and sensitivity, even empathy, ....are very

>>>> important...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> but we need to be established in our Oneness, inside,.... like a

>>>>>>>>>> Christ....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> and then we'll be even much more help to others....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> How can I work to maintain a life when there is

>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing but pain and misinformation all around me,

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> We can work to maintain, .....and create our lives....

>>>>>>>>>>> because this is what we, and everyone needs to do....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> This is the Saturn way, to do one's responsibilities, to do what

>>>>>> needs

>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>>>> done, each day...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> And as we do those simple things,...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> to bed on time,

>>>>>>>>>>> up early...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> good daily activity,...

>>>>>>>>>>> eating in time,...

>>>>>>>>>>> etc....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> then, Saturn grows positively,....stronger...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> and the mistakes of

>>>>>>>>>>>> history still being made everywhere, especially my pet peeve

>>>> which

>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>> WASP attempt to constantly tell everyone else that they are

>> Shite

>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>> WASP

>>>>>>>>>>>> ways alone are good such as ³We have to help the world be

>>>>>>>> democratic².

>>>>>>>>>>>> Bush-Shite. We don¹t have to inflict our government on anyone.

>>>>>> That

>>>>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>>>>> NOT

>>>>>>>>>>>> our duty. That¹s a cover up for grasping wealth in other

>> lands.

>>>>>>>>>> That¹s

>>>>>>>>>>>> all. Has Bush ever read the Quor¹an? I doubt it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not hate Muslims. I do not hate Arabs. I do not hate

>> Iraq.

>>>>>> And

>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>> don¹t

>>>>>>>>>>>> think Muslim boys fighting to get Americans and American ways

>> out

>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>> their

>>>>>>>>>>>> lands are ³terrorists². I think they are brave guerilla

>> warriors

>>>>>>>>>>> fighting

>>>>>>>>>>>> for what they believe, and their ways, their rights, and their

>>>>>> lands,

>>>>>>>>>>> just

>>>>>>>>>>>> as my ancestors did against the invasion of the outsiders who

>>>>>> simply

>>>>>>>>>>> wanted

>>>>>>>>>>>> to plunder and control.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> This is why Jesus was for the little guy, the meek, the

>>>>>> downtrodden,

>>>>>>>>>>>> oppressed, but good people. Same with other great, really

>> great,

>>>>>>>>>>> leaders,

>>>>>>>>>>>> not the awful and cruel leaders, who are just about wealth,

>>>> power,

>>>>>>>>>>> control,

>>>>>>>>>>>> and are personally uneducated and insensitive.

>>>>>>>>>>> \

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I think Christ was for the meek, 'guy', because in meekness is

>>>>>>>>>>> 'innocence',....and learning needs receptivity....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> My Guru, has this great expression, too, he says in his

>>>> translation

>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>> gita:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Until a seeker of truth, gets tired of doing it their own way,

>>>>>>>> knowledge

>>>>>>>>>>> never comes...."

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I know this receptivity,....whether it comes to a poor, or

>>>> rich

>>>>>>>>>>> person....is soooo vital...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> With all of this in my head, I hardly am concerned anymore with

>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>> personal

>>>>>>>>>>>> survival, wealth, etc. I understand why the likes of Jesus,

>>>>>>>> Caitanya,

>>>>>>>>>>>> Verkingetorix, Boudika, Gandhi, and many many others, just gave

>>>> up

>>>>>>>>>>>> possessions and took to wandering and teaching, or fighting

>>>> against

>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>> oppressor. It¹s way more noble than participating in the ocean

>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>>> stupidity, greed, and support of tyrannical empires and

>> emporers.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> So whatever my chart is, this is what it produces. I used to

>>>> want

>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>> work

>>>>>>>>>>>> through the system, and I did, for a long time, but now it has

>>>>>> grown

>>>>>>>>>>> hard.

>>>>>>>>>>>> I am extremely challenged by my material circumstances. I do

>> not

>>>>>> know

>>>>>>>>>> if

>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>> can survive. I feel the impending encroachment of homelessness.

>>>>>> It¹s

>>>>>>>>>>> scary.

>>>>>>>>>>>> I struggle for my sanity because I so much want to help stop

>> the

>>>>>>>>>>> insanity

>>>>>>>>>>>> and suffering of peoples, wars, governments, etc., as mentioned

>>>>>>>> above,

>>>>>>>>>>> but

>>>>>>>>>>>> don¹t know how, feel powerless to do so, and thus, I suffer.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Just focus on enlivening more....Saturn....steadiness....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Out of Saturn.... quietness..... peace and even bliss....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> comes the special integration of rest with activity..... which

>>>> makes

>>>>>>>> life

>>>>>>>>>>> feel grand....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, today, I will struggle against ³insanity². It

>> hurts.

>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>> will

>>>>>>>>>>>> ponder all of the above. I cannot stop that it seems. I cannot

>>>> stop

>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>>>>> happy just taking care of myself. I never lived for myself.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> We never live, just for us alone.... but we need to be able to

>>>> focus

>>>>>>>> on

>>>>>>>>>>> 'us'

>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes...

>>>>>>>>>>> when that's especially rocky....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Taking care of 'self',....is #1,....and once doing that....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> and it can be enough to just have a great meditation, program in

>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>> morning...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> then, we can focus on others.....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> but....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Now I am alone,

>>>>>>>>>>>> and need to ³just take care of my own business², but that never

>>>>>>>>>>> interested

>>>>>>>>>>>> me.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> And perhaps,....nature is telling,.....you ....you need to have

>>>> more

>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>> that

>>>>>>>>>>> special....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> bliss...of aloneness,..... which isn't lonely....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> but is really internal....bliss....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I joined Hare Krishna at 19, giving up a good life to do so,

>>>> hoping

>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>> ³save the world². I¹ve always been this way. I am afraid, I

>>>> hurt,

>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>> cry,

>>>>>>>>>>>> right now, today, right now, this minute. I will try to work on

>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>> business,

>>>>>>>>>>>> and make money, but the lonliness and seeming stupidity of my

>>>>>>>> personal

>>>>>>>>>>>> choices and existence as judged by my pennilessness and

>>>>>>>> friendlessness

>>>>>>>>>>>> weighs on me.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Personal loneliness, isolation....and sadness due to Moon/Sani,

>> in

>>>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>> 12th,

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> YES, DAS PRABHU, YOU HAVE SAID IT RIGHT ABOVE, IT IS DUE TO THE

>>>>>>>> UNAFFLICTED

>>>>>>>>>> STRONG JUPITER IN ISOLATION IN HIS OWN M/T SIGN AND YOUR LAGNA

>> LORD

>>>>>>>> ALSO

>>>>>>>>>> UNAFFLICTED IN 12H OF JUPITER GIVES YOU THE FEELINGS,

>> UNDERSTANDING

>>>>>>>>>> SPIRITUALITY AND LOTS OF COURAGE TO CARRY ON YOUR SPIRITUAL LIFE.

>>>>>>>> THAT'S

>>>>>>>>>> Y O U, DAS PRABHU.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> ....

>>>>>>>>>>> was also my path....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> but after my 2nd failed marriage,....I finally accepted,

>>>>>> ....something

>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>> had

>>>>>>>>>>> been feeling...

>>>>>>>>>>> and that was....perhaps....nature wanted me to learn to be

>> happy,

>>>> by

>>>>>>>>>>> myself....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> first...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> and so, I took a deep breath,....began to

>>>>>> face.....that....awkward....

>>>>>>>>>> very

>>>>>>>>>>> difficult,...

>>>>>>>>>>> lack of internal center....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> and push past...that....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> spending more time, to rest,...to meditate...

>>>>>>>>>>> and be....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> And slowly, and surely....each day that I meditated....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I began to see, that ....that bliss was there,...inside....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> only my small Moon, had a hard time,.... seeing it....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> So, I worked on my Moon too.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> The Moon cycle, watching the Moon, waxings and Wanings...each

>>>>>> day.....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> helped me a lot to be more intune with the Moon, too!

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> My neighbors stare at me in my funny dress, blue body paint,

>>>>>>>>>>>> and weird vehicle with strange messages painted onto it. I feel

>>>>>>>> alone.

>>>>>>>>>>> Even

>>>>>>>>>>>> my so called friends fear me and avoid me. It¹s very painful.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> My heroes, the men and woman I respect, nearly all of them died

>>>> in

>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>> jails

>>>>>>>>>>>> of their own countries, or the oppressors, or were assasinated

>> by

>>>>>>>>>> their

>>>>>>>>>>> own

>>>>>>>>>>>> governments, or committed suicide to avoid capture, etc., or

>>>> lived

>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>>>>>> ³insanity² waiting to die. As Swami Bhaktivendanta said ³This

>>>>>> world

>>>>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>>>>> no

>>>>>>>>>>>> place for a gentleman².

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> In ancient Rome, people loved to watch animals, slaves,

>>>> Christians,

>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>>> other victims of their empire get tortured and killed in the

>>>> arena.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian martyrs arose out of that, and even struck some

>>>> thinking

>>>>>>>>>> into

>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>> dulled Roman heads about their evil ways. Todays ³reality

>> shows²

>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>> similar to the ³arena games² of the Romans. It¹s sick. The

>>>>>>>>>> consumption,

>>>>>>>>>>>> greed, stupidity, dullness, insensitivity of Roman ways during

>>>> it¹s

>>>>>>>>>> fall

>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>> completely apparent in America today. Because of this, again

>> the

>>>>>>>>>>> opposite

>>>>>>>>>>>> will arise from within it, and eventually this will destroy it.

>>>> The

>>>>>>>>>>> slaves

>>>>>>>>>>>> (the poor people) will rise, new religions will rise, and real

>>>>>>>>>>> sacrifices

>>>>>>>>>>>> will be made, and America, the ugly version of today, will come

>>>>>>>>>> tumbling

>>>>>>>>>>>> down.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Knowing this, how can I not suffer. For the battle for a new

>>>>>>>>>>> righteousness

>>>>>>>>>>>> in America has not yet become totally apparent to the masses,

>> the

>>>>>>>>>> battle

>>>>>>>>>>> has

>>>>>>>>>>>> not become overtly begun, and I am poor, and I am alone, and my

>>>>>> mind

>>>>>>>>>>> races,

>>>>>>>>>>>> my age increases, disinterest increases, therefore how can I

>> not

>>>>>>>>>> suffer?

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> We can,...and should not suffer!

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> because this isn't the lesson of life!

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Life is Bliss!

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> It's eternal, immortal,...and the living presence of a divine

>>>>>>>> essence...

>>>>>>>>>>> which curses, and pervades every particle and fabric of

>> us,....and

>>>>>>>>>>> everything...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Not feeling that bliss...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> when it's all around us....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> is the real loss in the world...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> And those of us, who are interested in 'spirit' in this life...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> bringing more of 'that',...into our selves...and this world...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> is a great pupose!

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Being a teacher of the 9th house bliss,.... is not just the

>>>>>> knowledge

>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>> Spirit...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> which Jupiter in Sagittarius, very much represents....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> but, 9th House also represents the 'spirit' or Consciousness of

>>>>>>>>>>> Spirituality,....too...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> And you need to be that 'bliss', to be a great teacher....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> And Saturn will help you find that bliss!!!

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> :

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Really maturing as a soul in this world means to come to the

>>>> point

>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>> being

>>>>>>>>>>>> a spirit over matter. It doesn¹t feel ³comfy² for the body

>>>> always.

>>>>>>>> In

>>>>>>>>>>> fact,

>>>>>>>>>>>> it often feels ³uncomfy² for the dear body of nerves and flesh.

>> I

>>>>>> am

>>>>>>>> a

>>>>>>>>>>> lush

>>>>>>>>>>>> (Venus in the first), but I cannot let that over-rule the

>>>> spiritual

>>>>>>>>>>> warrior

>>>>>>>>>>>> part of me. So I fear very much, the austerities that I feel

>>>> quite

>>>>>>>>>>> confident

>>>>>>>>>>>> will be mine alone to enjoy (sarcasm).

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Simply speaking the truth as I do is enough to get you a good

>>>> dose

>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>>> austerity in the form of criticism and lonliness, as one must

>> go

>>>>>>>> along

>>>>>>>>>>> with

>>>>>>>>>>>> the lie to maintain a good material life here in the heart of

>> the

>>>>>>>> evil

>>>>>>>>>>>> empire.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Since I can¹t lie, I stand out in the evil empire. I cannot go

>>>>>> along

>>>>>>>>>>> with

>>>>>>>>>>>> it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the Hitler like government of Bush-Cheney-Ashcroft are

>> making

>>>>>>>>>>> America

>>>>>>>>>>>> such that you CANNOT LIKE Muslims without being called a

>>>>>> sympathizer

>>>>>>>>>>> with

>>>>>>>>>>>> the enemy. They watch emails through their computer monitoring

>>>>>>>>>> systems,

>>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone who is OK with Muslims, or says anything Pro-Iraq, etc.,

>>>> is

>>>>>>>>>>> labeled

>>>>>>>>>>>> an enemy-sympathizer. The Nazi-ism has begun. They are taking

>>>> away

>>>>>>>>>> our

>>>>>>>>>>>> rights in this country, and making it another Totalitarian

>> state,

>>>>>> as

>>>>>>>>>>> they

>>>>>>>>>>>> always strive to do (that particular strain of humans who are

>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately

>>>>>>>>>>>> currently in power, again).

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> So if you think, and are honest, you are an enemy sympathizer.

>> In

>>>>>>>>>> order

>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>> be ³free² in the empire, you must agree with all their

>>>> Bush-Shite,

>>>>>>>>>> which

>>>>>>>>>>>> means, you have to stay stupid, and hate others who never did

>>>>>>>> anything

>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>> you. And please, do not 911 me. That¹s NOTHING compared to

>> what

>>>>>>>> we¹ve

>>>>>>>>>>> done

>>>>>>>>>>>> to them, and to MANY other free nations. Besides, it is

>> clearly

>>>>>>>> known

>>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>>> documented for any thinking person to see that Bu$h is in bed

>>>> with

>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>> Bin

>>>>>>>>>>>> Ladden family in internation arms dealing, and the $audi

>>>> government

>>>>>>>>>> too.

>>>>>>>>>>> So

>>>>>>>>>>>> don¹t 911 me. All these families make money off that event,

>>>>>> through

>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>> ensuing use of weapons and arms deals etc. It¹s as sick as

>> could

>>>>>> be.

>>>>>>>>>>> It¹s

>>>>>>>>>>>> demonic. It¹s VE$RY EV$IL.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Once during my best financial times, an acquaintance commented

>> to

>>>> a

>>>>>>>>>>> friend

>>>>>>>>>>>> of mine that I didn¹t buy a nice car, even though I could have.

>>>>>>>> Thank

>>>>>>>>>>> you.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Enough said. It was never the aim of my life to ³enjoy² here

>>>> like

>>>>>>>>>> that.

>>>>>>>>>>> I¹m

>>>>>>>>>>>> so glad I never participated in the stupidity of outright

>>>> material

>>>>>>>>>> lust

>>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>>> greed. I am so glad I was always focused on trying to spread

>>>> good

>>>>>>>>>>> things,

>>>>>>>>>>>> like spiritual knowledge, and I¹m glad I gave up my youth for

>>>>>> Krishna

>>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>>> Caitanya. I have no regrets there. I fear only the pain of my

>>>>>> coming

>>>>>>>>>>> times,

>>>>>>>>>>>> because I cannot imagine the evil empire will leave me alone,

>>>>>> because

>>>>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>>> mouth won¹t leave them alone, and they don¹t like being

>> revealed.

>>>>>>>>>> Since

>>>>>>>>>>> they

>>>>>>>>>>>> come from and live by darkness of ignorance, they dislike the

>>>>>>>>>> flashlight

>>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>>> truth and they attack the mouth which shines it forth.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I am sorry for my many mistakes. I realize I¹m still making

>> more

>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>> them.

>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can somehow save me from my pain, feel free (sarcastic

>>>>>>>> approach

>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>> genuine hope for relief). I wish I could believe it¹s a sunny

>>>> day.

>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>> wish

>>>>>>>>>>>> I could regain some of the happiness I used to feel. I am

>> afraid

>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>> won¹t

>>>>>>>>>>>> because I¹m afraid that so long as their is this large scale

>> evil

>>>>>>>>>> going

>>>>>>>>>>> on

>>>>>>>>>>>> in the form of disinformation, greed, exploitation, and so on,

>> I

>>>>>>>> won¹t

>>>>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>>>>>> able to rest easy. I can¹t think ³it¹s just the world¹s karma,

>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>> little innocents in Iraq for example are SUPPOSED to die and

>> BU$H

>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>>>>>> SUPPOSED to dish it out to them². It¹s not a restful ideology

>> to

>>>>>> me

>>>>>>>>>>> though

>>>>>>>>>>>> it¹s been preached to me by many fellow so called Vaisnavas and

>>>>>>>>>>> Astrologers

>>>>>>>>>>>> alike. I tend to want to speak out against it, which brings

>> the

>>>>>> big

>>>>>>>>>>> guns

>>>>>>>>>>>> down upon you.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> In summary, Jupiter smiled upon my birth intensely. Thank you

>>>> God,

>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>>> with me. Saturn too was present in a big way (pun), and said,

>>>> but

>>>>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>>>>> work

>>>>>>>>>>>> will make you suffer...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> It's not Jupiter, that makes us 'suffer', it's Saturn.....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> And it's not really Sani that makes us suffer,

>> but....'us',...what

>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>>>> that

>>>>>>>>>>> saying...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> oh, yes, 'ignorance is no excuse under the law.....you break the

>>>>>> law,

>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>>>>> suffer accordingly...'

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> One of the greatest things I've learned from Saturn,.....is that

>>>>>> life,

>>>>>>>>>>> in-tune with Nature, is a lot more fun, then, straining, or

>> being

>>>>>> out

>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>> tune....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Saturn, represents the wisdom of that in-tune...ment....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Sani represents stillness, and quietness, yes.... but also

>>>> being...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Saturn only acts up, when we don't 'act'.....with enough

>>>> silence...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I was born in Sade Sat, I was born with a very challenging Moon

>>>>>>>>>>> w/Saturn....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> and it wasn't until I learned to meditate, that the intense,

>>>> 'grief'

>>>>>>>> that

>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>> felt every day, started to be less....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> And then, it wasn't until I learned Jyotish, where I learned

>> that,

>>>>>>>> 'I',

>>>>>>>>>>> personally, needed even more Saturn silence, then I thought,....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> and when I surrendered to 'that',....to Sani,....then,...my life

>>>>>>>>>>> finally,....turned around...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I have to say, the last 7 years have been the happiest of my

>>>> life...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> and me, still in Saturn Mahadasa....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I realize....Sani wants us to have one foot completely,

>>>> still,

>>>>>>>>>>> in...silence.....while the other,... Jupiter one...moves

>>>> forward....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> then, they shift,....and the other foot, needs to become saturn

>>>>>> like,

>>>>>>>>>>> still,

>>>>>>>>>>> and the previous foot becomes the expansive, Jupiter foot!

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> what Jupiter places in you, will make you suffer.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the real meaning of my ninth house. You cannot have

>> that

>>>>>>>>>> strong

>>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>>> a Jupiter in this world WITHOUT Saturn coming along for the

>> ride.

>>>>>>>>>> That¹s

>>>>>>>>>>> a

>>>>>>>>>>>> fact. So it is in my chart. That¹s a SPIRITUAL Jupiter, not a

>>>>>>>>>>>> materialistic one, as some others have very nicely. Mine is

>>>>>>>>>>>> religious/spiritual. So Saturn HAS to come, because the evil

>>>>>> empire

>>>>>>>>>>> still

>>>>>>>>>>>> exists, and a strong Spiritual Jupiter will ALWAYS be the key

>>>> enemy

>>>>>>>>>> they

>>>>>>>>>>>> seek to squash, so that the masses will remain their slaves

>> with

>>>> no

>>>>>>>>>> real

>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge of their own souls.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Well said, and realizing....just how to allow more wisdom of

>>>>>>>> Saturn,...to

>>>>>>>>>>> come into your life...

>>>>>>>>>>> will greatly help that house...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> There is this tension between Sani & Jupiter, anyway, because

>>>>>> they're

>>>>>>>>>> sooo

>>>>>>>>>>> different, but then, you put them into the same house, or as in

>> my

>>>>>>>> case,

>>>>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>>>>> opposite houses, and their perspectives strongly influence each

>>>>>>>> other....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> In other words, progess and expansion, will then depend more

>>>>>> strongly

>>>>>>>> on

>>>>>>>>>>> how

>>>>>>>>>>> balanced Sani, especially is....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> In your chart, 'das', Jupiter is the benefic, and Saturn is the

>>>>>>>> hindering

>>>>>>>>>>> influence...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> but, this is just so you learn to understand, trust,

>>>>>> surrender,...and

>>>>>>>>>> grow

>>>>>>>>>>> in Sani's special wisdom.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> As you do that even more and more, especially on a

>>>> non-intellectual,

>>>>>>>>>>> physical, nervous system, level....then Sani....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> will turn around and become benefic!

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> What a joy that is, when 'we' make that experience, happen...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Sani, for most is the worst malefic,...(functional, anyway)

>>>>>>>>>>> and perhaps that's because of the intense, out of tune, world we

>>>>>> live

>>>>>>>>>> in...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Nature, however, is completely pure and impartial.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Nature allows us to do whatever we want....

>>>>>>>>>>> there's only one rule,.... we have to experience the

>> consequences

>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>> those

>>>>>>>>>>> actions...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> And where we might not have understood about Saturn balance, or

>>>>>> wisdom

>>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>>>>> our last life, in this one,....we can begin to put more

>>>>>>>> attention....on

>>>>>>>>>>> Sani's special, blessings....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> The malefics in our charts, are not just our sufferings or our

>>>>>>>>>>> consequences,

>>>>>>>>>>> ..... they're also the special opportunities, that we're meant

>> to

>>>>>> grow

>>>>>>>>>>> in...

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> and once we embrace them, learn their lessons, then,...our

>>>>>>>>>>> reward,.....natural, new consequence of our newly learned

>>>>>>>> insights......

>>>>>>>>>>> we'll experience the functional 'beneficness' of those old

>>>>>> planets....

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Divide and Conquer. Bu$h wants U$ to HATE muslims, the latest

>>>>>> enemy

>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>>> their creation, so that we will fear, and act under their

>>>>>>>>>> ³leadership²,

>>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>>> pay more money to them, for THEIR weapons, from the companies

>>>> THEY

>>>>>>>>>> own,

>>>>>>>>>>> so

>>>>>>>>>>>> that their agenda WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED but not by their own

>>>> labor,

>>>>>>>> but

>>>>>>>>>>>> yours, ours.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> They are dividing us, whereas Spirituality unites us. We are

>> all

>>>>>> one

>>>>>>>>>> as

>>>>>>>>>>>> souls, but only different in external dress, which includes our

>>>>>>>>>>> cultures,

>>>>>>>>>>>> prophets, etc. The aim is one, to live in peace and be able to

>>>>>>>> rejoice

>>>>>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>>>>>> Spirit, live in Spirit. The aim of life is not to worship MTV,

>>>>>>>>>>> Hollywood,

>>>>>>>>>>>> lust and greed, etc. No. It is to have farm life, village

>> life,

>>>>>>>> happy

>>>>>>>>>>> life,

>>>>>>>>>>>> simple life, realize Spirit, and become Divine.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Enough for now. Thanks for listening. If you read all and

>>>>>>>>>> understand,

>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>> shake your hand, or even hug you.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> With love, your brother in Spirit,

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Reichard MacQuoid-Wuerst

>>>>>>>>>>>> (Das Goravani)

>>>>>>>>>>> \

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Jai Guru,

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Kincaid

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> founder Starlight Unlimited, a business, promoting Jyotish into

>>>> all

>>>>>>>> areas

>>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>> life.

>>>>>>>>>>> Nature's Astrology:

>>>> /

>>>>>>>> a

>>>>>>>>>>> ,

>>>>>>>>>>> looking at the best of Western & Eastern Astrologys, and how we

>>>> can

>>>>>>>>>>> encourage

>>>>>>>>>>> a development of a true, modern day Science of Astrology

>>>>>>>>>>> and new :

>>>>>>>>>>> kincaidmark/ for those who want

>> more

>>>>>>>> formal

>>>>>>>>>>> jyotish.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

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>>

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