2-Das & Tanvir, > Mark Kincaid....10/6......World Wide ripoff & Standing up for what's right!

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Dear Tanvir & Das:

 

I understand both of your thoughts.

 

I too, believe, in the old adage: "nothing's new under the Sun"...

 

And that helps us remain humble.

 

However I also understand the point, of 'ownership'....

 

If 'we' have created something, then, we deserve to receive the reward.

 

This is 'Nature's Way'....and the result, is that which is good and

progress, gets the right rewards...

 

Those that would, ah, what did you say, 'pirate'.... don't deserve the

benefits...

 

That's why it's called pirating...

 

And we should stand up for,....and against....those that would try and

take...

 

But, we also need to realize that Nature is the One, that takes care of

everything...

 

In the West we say, 'God is the only one that delivers consequences, or

guilt', in Christian terms...

 

In the East, they just say Karma...

 

But, look at the intense, Marish, Kali yuga age we're in...

 

Soooo many are in the learning throes, of Mars!

 

 

A great Guru said one time, "stand up for what you know is right."

 

It is right that those who create, get the reward, and those that would

'steal', do not.

 

I heard this great Christian woman one time, who said: "I forgive, my

trespassor."

 

But, as a society we don't accept that which is not right....

 

 

So, both of you are correct....

 

wild..

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

 

> "Tanvir" <ultimate

> valist

> Thu, 7 Oct 2004 04:16:32 +0600

> <valist>

> Re: World Wide Wripoff

>

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> You are very right. A few paragraph and a few image is nothing. If one would

> like to copy something, and ask me, I would permit happily, unless it is

> something really major. It is a recognization of my work when someone wants to

> copy it. But, it is a very basic courtesy to ask first. They did not ask me,

> nor they did acknowledge in the site that this was from me. This very clearly

> would create an impression that it was they who wrote them etc., is this good?

>

> If I want to copy someone's teachings or essays, I of course ask. If someone

> denies me, I do not feel ill of him.

>

> But this is not the right way to copy someone without asking, or even without

> an acknowledgement. I do not feel so.

>

> When you asked David Frawley about publishing his book, I am sure you did not

> have an intention to publish it *in the way* to impress people with the idea

> that *you* wrote it :-)

>

> Who knows how much did the site copy from many other websites to build their

> one. If their astrologers are so knowledgeable and so expert, why do not they

> write something of their own, than repeating stuff already found in other

> sites?

>

> And if one expects me to be nice not to mind about copying, then I expect him

> to be nice to ask me.

>

> And most of all it makes me very suspicious about their services. I can not be

> sure, of course, about what they are doing. Nor I want to say that they are

> dishonest about their services - since I do not truly know. But it is a very

> good reason to be suspicious.

>

> Thanks,

> Tanvir.

>

> PS. The Druid - Roman facts you mentioned are really interesting. COPYRIGHTED

> MANTRAS !!!! LOL !!!!!!! :-D

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> What can not happen, can never happen.

> Which is mine, is forever mine.

>

> Tanvir Chowdhury

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> Das Goravani

> valist

> Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:01 AM

> World Wide Wripoff

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>

> Hey

>

> Has any of us actually invented or created anything? Good question.

>

> When I first realized that people pirated my software I got upset, now it

> does not upset me. (Though, of course you jerk, I want you to pay for it!)

>

> I remember when I asked David Frawley if I could put his book in my program,

> and I was willing to pay some royalty, and he just said "go ahead, no

> royalty required". Which is also what Ranjan said, but many others want to

> charge. Hmm. Some have open hearts, little greed, big spirit of giving to

> mankind.

>

> A few pictures and a few paragraphs is nothing, Tanvir. This is all kind of

> generic knowledge anyway. But yeah, people want to get in on the money

> rush, and so, the rush to put together a site happens.

>

> I get quite a few people writing to me saying:

>

> "I have a bootleg copy of your program, but I want to pay you, kindof, I

> mean, I'd feel better, so, would you sell it to me legally for $25"

>

> I had one student in India say "I've almost cracked all the code, so if you

> sell me the code, you'll make something, but if you don't, I'm just going to

> steal it anyway".

>

> Ahh, the land of Dharma (and poor, desperate people)(no judgement implied,

> at all)

>

> I can mail my software to most countries, but to India, I must ALWAYS

> register it as it ALWAYS gets stolen otherwise. I wonder if India will EVER

> before the end of the world, NOT be so desperate. Interesting question.

>

> You know what's funny. I study European history very intensely for awhile

> now. You know these Yagyas that Indian Brahmins are charging a lot of money

> for? Well, Druids used to do those for Celts (white people in

> England/Ireland), even up until say the years 500 AD or so, but especially

> prior to Roman invasion around 50 AD and so on.

>

> So, these Druids would do the same thing- you pay money, or give gold, and

> they would do the ceremonies. Usually only Kings and such could afford it.

> But it was the same idea- sacrifices to appease the Gods. They too had

> fires, and altars, and mantras, chants, special uniforms, rituals, beliefs,

> lots of hocus pocus that nobody else knew- they too had their subjects quite

> spell bound by their rituals.

>

> It's interesting that this was obliterated, stopped, so long ago in the

> West, and now, Westerners go to India to have it done, the same thing

> exactly. Even the same Gods, but with different names. I find this utterly

> amazing. We humans never change. We always have the same sort of ideas

> running through our heads no matter our race, the year it is, whatever.

>

> Interesting.

>

> You can probably imagine that long ago one Druid would march over to another

> Druids altar and protest that :

>

> You are using my copyrighted mantras! ! !

>

> And of course, Romans killed off the Druids, then went home and offered the

> stolen gold to their own Gods. Oh brother.

>

> Peace out,

>

> Man who sees across lands and times

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