Guest guest Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 John Kerry Chart Observations December 11, 1943 Time: 7:12:00 Time Zone: 7:00:00 (West of GMT) Longitude: 104 W 59' 03" Latitude: 39 N 44' 21" Altitude: 260.00 meters Data Provided by SRs mail & since it was provided by another western astrologer I have taken this. Other charts floating on the list was confusing to my limited knowledge & this one fitted with few points as known of his past. I had the birth time rectified by Yogi Karve but I have lost that mail, as months back I was not interested in political predictions. If I find that mail I shall post it to the list. Another western astrologer friend gave this data for John Kerry – December 11, 1943 – 8.03am MWT – time of birth given by John Kerry to Boston astrologer Karen Thorne in 1996. Location Fitzsimons, CO (Colorado) – long 104W48 latitude 39N45. But I am not sure if DST is to be applied or not and what is MWT, if anyone knows which exact time zone to be used and if DST is applicable pls explain this complicated process publicly or privately. Basic Observations Ø Rahus placement in Rasi chart confirms when he was born his father was sick – as told to me by a Suka Nadi expert Ø He must have traveled in early part of his life – till date not confirmed, only confirmation received is that he has traveled to different cities in his early part of life. Ø He isn’t too religious, or another way of putting it is he is unorthodox in his views on religion. – no one from lists have confirmed this, but I read somewhere recently is that he isn’t loud on his views on religion whereas Bush pushes Bible in front of himself. Ø Sun is his AK and his AK dasa might have been tough facing problems with authority as Sun is for govt, Sun/Sun he had problems with govt as per a mail on list Ø Sun AK is close to lagna along with GL and HL promising fame, he shot to fame during his Sun period. Sun is also in Nav, AK and lagnamsa combo. Ø AK & Amk have connection very good. ofcourse the above events can match with many charts, so totally relying on SRs rectification. Negative Factors Ø During the day of the election result his 7th Lord Ven is in MB, MD Lord Mer is also lord of Mandi showing tensions or failures. Ø Rahus negative transit on Nep’s 1st extension of 64th Nav. Dasa Dwisaptati Sama Dasa is applicable since LL is in 7H At the time of 2nd Nov Dwisaptati Sama Dasa running is of Mer/Moon/Rahu Mer is lord of 8H and 11H, badly placed, so the results should be bad, but still some use the 11th H as house of Labha or gains, whenever such tough situations come I resort to D60 ruler and it is Deva, Tamas Guna hence I would prefer to interpret it as wherein one has to face lot of obstacles. But Mer is Hora Lord of the chart. >From AL, Mer is the 2nd and 11th L placed in the 5th house of power, I presume a good combination Very powerful Pournimasaya Moon is lord of 9H of Bhagya and is exalted with retro Mars, a chandra mangala Yoga, but Mars is retro so he has to put in a lot of effort , Moon is also involved in a powerful Gajakeshari Yoga, I presume since Jup is in the 10H the power would be transferred to 10H of karma and career. Moon is in Maaya, which is a malefic Shastiamsa, hence can be disappointing in the classical sense, but as the name suggests Maaya, the post of President is of the most powerful man on earth which represents Maaya to its ultimate glory maybe. >From AL, Moon is the exalted 12th Lord placed in the Mahatphalam area, classically bad if I remember well but since I am getting biased it is good as it is involved in lot of yogas. Rahu is 4th co-lord of kingdom, which is aspected by Jup i.e. the House. It is Kendra lord coming in Kona, who is getting aspect from Mars Moon Sun thro Jamini .. Somewhere I had read some combination for kings where in 4L was necessary to be involved, and their was correlation of this to current Prime Ministers, as usual I have forgotten it, anyways it is from AL 7L placed in 12H of loss, so if we use the AL technique this could be a period of loss, but from GL & HL it is in 9th which is 5th from 5th of power. Since confusion has set in here let me not forget that Rahu is a Mahayogada Rahu is in a benefic Shastiamsa Kshiteesa, (remember to check meaning of Kshiteesa ) Patel Bindus Brighu Bindu 1 Brighu Bindu 2 Rahu/Moon @ Rahu/Sun @ 20Sg21 20Vi53 Verification of 1st Presidential Debate ON around 30th Sept Jup was on 7vi16, Mars was on 8 deg & Mer was 9 deg Vi, Let me not forget that Jup is his 5L the power giver although its ownership of 2H puts a jiffy. Now Jup-Ven BB ( I am relying on the software expert who I presume has calculated it properly) is on 7Vi17, see how close Jup is, some say that Kerry defeated Bush, Jups is his 2nd lord of Speech and 5L of power giver placed in 10H with gajakeshari yoga which repeats in Nav, Now Ven is his 7L of power to career and unfortunately 12H Lord, but it is swakestra in rasi and in natural 12H in Nav so there is a chance that this Ven can be powerful with 5 BAV On 2nd Nov04 BB2, moon is most fav planet is aspecting his BB2 already in the Bhrigu Orb. Jup is 14Vi09 & Ven is 11 Vi 39, not on the BB1 point nor in the Bhrigu Orb of it. Would have preferred Jup on his BB1, it would clinch all the analysis in his favor. But Sun is on Rahu Ketu midpoint which is 16Li11 & Sun is at 16Li36, Mr Foss has hinted that Rahu Ketu midpoint he finds it imp for relationships, since I do not know the interpretation of this particular midpoint, I await Mr Foss’s mail on it, the only inference one can make right now is that something significant in terms of relationship will happen concerning 10H as sun lords it. Relationship need not be only private but with people too. Getting tangential another observation is that Jup is bang on just 2 degs away from the Fame Saham & Respect Saham Mars –Ketu Mid Point – 16Vi51 on 2nd Jup is on 14Vi09’ just about to reach the orb, Mars ketu is his lagna lord. Something important is to happen. Sat-Mer Mid Point – 6Vi17 Uranus-Ketu midpoint – 14Vi43, Ven is on 11Vi39 MC-Ketu midpoint – 15Li26 – on 2nd Nov Sun would be on 16Li36 well within the Bhrigu Orb Amk career Moon activates 1st rule extension of 64th Nav of Sun AK, who is 10L. so in a way this is AK and Amk combining or rather activation. Jup is on 64th Nav of MC (no validation of this theory) as this is not the classical technique and is not activation the MC in the Rasi chart. The negative point is Jup is also GK the rival, so am confused here. Sahams & Dasas I haven’t worked on this new technique ever since I heard about it today, if someone knows a better & effective way to use Sahams pls disclose. This is one of Mr. Iyers technique but I presume he used a slightly different way to calculate Sahams as compared to what is found in normal softwares hence validity of using this technique is doubtable but would like to attempt. Dwisaptati Sama Dasa running is of Mer/Moon/Rahu All 3 level planets are badly placed from each other, from lagna it would be a different story. Rajya Saham & Punya Saham & Yasas Saham & Mahatmya Saham & Karya Siddi Saham play imp role here logically – would like to extend my thinking here and use Putra Saham since for a Raja (King) his subjects are like his children and for the President the citizens become his children in a way upon presidentship the welfare or burden of the subjects get thrown on his so one can say that there is prapti or gain of children – this is my own theory and not read it anywhere so if one critiques me pls don’t ask for source of information. Extending it logically so would Pitru Saham play an imp role. Punya Saham is in Ta Mahatmya Saham is in Sc Rajya Saham is in Ta Yasas Saham is in 16Vi 48 Karya Siddhi Saham is in Sc Karma Saham is Ge Here Star Lord position of Sahams also need to be used but the software doesn’t give it. Now see the lords & planets in the above 5 Sahams & their signs, they are Mars, Ven, Mer , Mars and Moon as they are in Ta, now 2 or above of these combination if they get involved with the Dasa sequence which is Mer/Moon/Rahu then the Sahams give result in these dasas. Ven is not getting involved in the dasa sequence upto PD level but it is soul is in Rahu and Rahu is involved in dasa. Something imp is going to happen in this dasa and I feel there is success written. Interpretation of the technique is one thing which is dependant on the student and correctness of the technique is another. I would love to get 2 things, the time when the result would be declared and DTPC of Bush and Kerry for the date of election result i.e 2nd Nov. Somewhere today I felt that I hope this time also the election results do not get delayed. There are many reasons why people predict on political events, either to get fame or test one’s technique. Political predictions is the domain of big wigs and I am an amateur student even if this prediction goes right I cannot take credit, but would surely be happy that the techniques were used properly by me hopefully. Thanks for your time and patience in this long analysis and to make it short many things were deleted. If anyone has studied Seshadri Iyers techniques can he/she be kind enough to write to me privately, I have some doubts and would need some guidance, would be most indebted. Shall post on Bush soon. Summary: Kerry can win surely (only the Lord knows the future, we can only attempt) What is the opinion of the famous psychics of America, do they feel he is the walk-in American president that they have been waiting for so long. Humbly Om Tat Sat vote. - Register online to vote today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Dear Sunil, Did you notice the prediction made by me about 6 months back based on solar return charts of USA. It appeared in Express Star Teller as well and was floated on different lists. Best regards, Prakash Kandpal - Sunil John <jjnet2000_in Mon, 4 Oct 2004 01:47:35 -0700 (PDT) valist John Kerry - Is he the One Re: Re: Re: Re: John Kerry Chart Observations Re: Re: December 11, 1943 Re: Re: Time: 7:12:00 Re: Re: Time Zone: 7:00:00 (West of GMT) Re: Re: Longitude: 104 W 59' 03" Re: Re: Latitude: 39 N 44' 21" Re: Re: Altitude: 260.00 meters Re: Re: Re: Re: Data Provided by SRs mail & since it was provided by another western astrologer I have taken this. Re: Re: Re: Re: Other charts floating on the list was confusing to my limited knowledge & this one fitted with few points as known of his past. I had the birth time rectified by Yogi Karve but I have lost that mail, as months back I was not interested in political predictions. If I find that mail I shall post it to the list. Re: Re: Another western astrologer friend gave this Re: Re: Re: Re: data for John Kerry – December 11, 1943 – 8.03am MWT – time of birth given by John Kerry to Boston astrologer Karen Thorne in 1996. Location Fitzsimons, CO (Colorado) – long 104W48 latitude 39N45. Re: Re: Re: Re: But I am not sure if DST is to be applied or not and what is MWT, if anyone knows which exact time zone to be used and if DST is applicable pls explain this complicated process publicly or privately. Re: Re: Re: Re: Basic Observations Re: Re: Ø Rahus placement in Rasi chart confirms when he was born his father was sick – as told to me by a Suka Nadi expert Re: Re: Ø He must have traveled in early part of his life – till date not confirmed, only confirmation received is that he has traveled to different cities in his early part of life. Re: Re: Ø He isn’t too religious, or another way of putting it is he is unorthodox in his views on religion. – no one from lists have confirmed this, but I read somewhere recently is that he isn’t loud on his views on religion whereas Bush pushes Bible in front of himself. Re: Re: Ø Sun is his AK and his AK dasa might have been tough facing problems with authority as Sun is for govt, Sun/Sun he had problems with govt as per a mail on list Re: Re: Ø Sun AK is close to lagna along with GL and HL promising fame, he shot to fame during his Sun period. Sun is also in Nav, AK and lagnamsa combo. Re: Re: Ø AK & Amk have connection very good. Re: Re: ofcourse the above events can match with many charts, so totally relying on SRs rectification. Re: Re: Re: Re: Negative Factors Re: Re: Ø During the day of the election result his 7th Lord Ven is in MB, MD Lord Mer is also lord of Mandi showing tensions or failures. Re: Re: Ø Rahus negative transit on Nep’s 1st extension of 64th Nav. Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dasa Re: Re: Re: Re: Dwisaptati Sama Dasa is applicable since LL is in 7H Re: Re: At the time of 2nd Nov Dwisaptati Sama Dasa running is of Mer/Moon/Rahu Re: Re: Re: Re: Mer is lord of 8H and 11H, badly placed, so the results should be bad, but still some use the 11th H as house of Labha or gains, whenever such tough situations come I resort to D60 ruler and it is Deva, Tamas Guna hence I would prefer to interpret it as wherein one has to face lot of obstacles. But Mer is Hora Lord of the chart. Re: Re: From AL, Mer is the 2nd and 11th L placed in the 5th house of power, I presume a good combination Re: Re: Re: Re: Very powerful Pournimasaya Moon is lord of 9H of Bhagya and is exalted with retro Mars, a chandra mangala Yoga, but Mars is retro so he has to put in a lot of effort , Moon is also involved in a powerful Gajakeshari Yoga, I presume since Jup is in the 10H the power would be transferred to 10H of karma and career. Moon is in Maaya, which is a malefic Shastiamsa, hence can be disappointing in the classical sense, but as the name suggests Maaya, the post of President is of the most powerful man on earth which represents Maaya to its ultimate glory maybe. Re: Re: From AL, Moon is the exalted 12th Lord placed in the Mahatphalam area, classically bad if I remember well but since I am getting biased it is good as it is involved in lot of yogas. Re: Re: Re: Re: Rahu is 4th co-lord of kingdom, which is aspected by Jup i.e. the House. It is Kendra lord coming in Kona, who is getting aspect from Mars Moon Sun thro Jamini . Somewhere I had read some combination for kings where in 4L was necessary to be involved, and their was correlation of this to current Prime Ministers, as usual I have forgotten it, anyways it is from AL 7L placed in 12H of loss, so if we use the AL technique this could be a period of loss, but from GL & HL it is in 9th which is 5th from 5th of power. Since confusion has set in here let me not forget that Rahu is a Mahayogada Re: Re: Rahu is in a benefic Shastiamsa Kshiteesa, (remember to check meaning of Kshiteesa ) Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Patel Bindus Re: Re: Re: Re: Brighu Bindu 1 Re: Re: Brighu Bindu 2 Re: Re: Rahu/Moon @ Re: Re: Rahu/Sun @ Re: Re: 20Sg21 Re: Re: 20Vi53 Re: Re: Re: Re: Verification of 1st Presidential Debate Re: Re: ON around 30th Sept Jup was on 7vi16, Mars was on 8 deg & Mer was 9 deg Vi, Re: Re: Re: Re: Let me not forget that Jup is his 5L the power giver although its ownership of 2H puts a jiffy. Re: Re: Re: Re: Now Jup-Ven BB ( I am relying on the software expert who I presume has calculated it properly) is on 7Vi17, see how close Jup is, some say that Kerry defeated Bush, Jups is his 2nd lord of Speech and 5L of power giver placed in 10H with gajakeshari yoga which repeats in Nav, Re: Re: Now Ven is his 7L of power to career and unfortunately 12H Lord, but it is swakestra in rasi and in natural 12H in Nav so there is a chance that this Ven can be powerful with 5 BAV Re: Re: Re: Re: On 2nd Nov04 Re: Re: Re: Re: BB2, moon is most fav planet is aspecting his BB2 already in the Bhrigu Orb. Re: Re: Re: Re: Jup is 14Vi09 & Ven is 11 Vi 39, not on the BB1 point nor in the Bhrigu Orb of it. Re: Re: Would have preferred Jup on his BB1, it would clinch all the analysis in his favor. Re: Re: Re: Re: But Sun is on Rahu Ketu midpoint which is 16Li11 & Sun is at 16Li36, Mr Foss has hinted that Rahu Ketu midpoint he finds it imp for relationships, since I do not know the interpretation of this particular midpoint, I await Mr Foss’s mail on it, the only inference one can make right now is that something significant in terms of relationship will happen concerning 10H as sun lords it. Relationship need not be only private but with people too. Re: Re: Re: Re: Getting tangential another observation is that Jup is bang on just 2 degs away from the Fame Saham & Respect Saham Re: Re: Re: Re: Mars –Ketu Mid Point – 16Vi51 on 2nd Jup is on 14Vi09’ just about to reach the orb, Mars ketu is his lagna lord. Something important is to happen. Re: Re: Sat-Mer Mid Point – 6Vi17 Re: Re: Uranus-Ketu midpoint – 14Vi43, Ven is on 11Vi39 Re: Re: MC-Ketu midpoint – 15Li26 – on 2nd Nov Sun would be on 16Li36 well within the Bhrigu Orb Re: Re: Re: Re: Amk career Moon activates 1st rule extension of 64th Nav of Sun AK, who is 10L. so in a way this is AK and Amk combining or rather activation. Re: Re: Jup is on 64th Nav of MC (no validation of this theory) as this is not the classical technique and is not activation the MC in the Rasi chart. The negative point is Jup is also GK the rival, so am confused here. Re: Re: Re: Re: Sahams & Dasas Re: Re: I haven’t worked on this new technique ever since I heard about it today, if someone knows a better & effective way to use Sahams pls disclose. This is one of Mr. Iyers technique but I presume he used a slightly different way to calculate Sahams as compared to what is found in normal softwares hence validity of using this technique is doubtable but would like to attempt. Re: Re: Re: Re: Dwisaptati Sama Dasa running is of Mer/Moon/Rahu Re: Re: Re: Re: All 3 level planets are badly placed from each other, from lagna it would be a different story. Re: Re: Rajya Saham & Punya Saham & Yasas Saham & Mahatmya Saham & Karya Siddi Saham play imp role here logically – would like to extend my thinking here and use Putra Saham since for a Raja (King) his subjects are like his children and for the President the citizens become his children in a way upon presidentship the welfare or burden of the subjects get thrown on his so one can say that there is prapti or gain of children – this is my own theory and not read it anywhere so if one critiques me pls don’t ask for source of information. Extending it logically so would Pitru Saham play an imp role. Re: Re: Re: Re: Punya Saham is in Ta Re: Re: Mahatmya Saham is in Sc Re: Re: Rajya Saham is in Ta Re: Re: Yasas Saham is in 16Vi 48 Re: Re: Karya Siddhi Saham is in Sc Re: Re: Karma Saham is Ge Re: Re: Re: Re: Here Star Lord position of Sahams also need to be used but the software doesn’t give it. Now see the lords & planets in the above 5 Sahams & their signs, they are Mars, Ven, Mer , Mars and Moon as they are in Ta, now 2 or above of these combination if they get involved with the Dasa sequence which is Mer/Moon/Rahu then the Sahams give result in these dasas. Ven is not getting involved in the dasa sequence upto PD level but it is soul is in Rahu and Rahu is involved in dasa. Re: Re: Re: Re: Something imp is going to happen in this dasa and I feel there is success written. Interpretation of the technique is one thing which is dependant on the student and correctness of the technique is another. Re: Re: Re: Re: I would love to get 2 things, the time when the result would be declared and DTPC of Bush and Kerry for the date of election result i.e 2nd Nov. Re: Re: Somewhere today I felt that I hope this time also the election results do not get delayed. Re: Re: Re: Re: There are many reasons why people predict on political events, either to get fame or test one’s technique. Political predictions is the domain of big wigs and I am an amateur student even if this prediction goes right I cannot take credit, but would surely be happy that the techniques were used properly by me hopefully. Re: Re: Re: Re: Thanks for your time and patience in this long analysis and to make it short many things were deleted. If anyone has studied Seshadri Iyers techniques can he/she be kind enough to write to me privately, I have some doubts and would need some guidance, would be most indebted. Shall post on Bush soon. Re: Re: Summary: Kerry can win surely (only the Lord knows the future, we can only attempt) Re: Re: What is the opinion of the famous psychics of America, do they feel he is the walk-in American president that they have been waiting for so long. Re: Re: Humbly Re: Re: Om Tat Sat Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: vote. - Register online to vote today! Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Links Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PHONE:+91-98105-27196 -- _________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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