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John Kerry Chart Observations

 

December 11, 1943

 

Time: 7:12:00

 

Time Zone: 7:00:00 (West of GMT)

 

Longitude: 104 W 59' 03"

 

Latitude: 39 N 44' 21"

 

Altitude: 260.00 meters

 

 

 

Data Provided by SRs mail & since it was provided by another western astrologer

I have taken this.

 

 

 

Other charts floating on the list was confusing to my limited knowledge & this

one fitted with few points as known of his past. I had the birth time rectified

by Yogi Karve but I have lost that mail, as months back I was not interested in

political predictions. If I find that mail I shall post it to the list.

 

Another western astrologer friend gave this

 

 

 

data for John Kerry – December 11, 1943 – 8.03am MWT – time of birth given by

John Kerry to Boston astrologer Karen Thorne in 1996. Location Fitzsimons, CO

(Colorado) – long 104W48 latitude 39N45.

 

 

 

But I am not sure if DST is to be applied or not and what is MWT, if anyone

knows which exact time zone to be used and if DST is applicable pls explain this

complicated process publicly or privately.

 

 

 

Basic Observations

 

Ø Rahus placement in Rasi chart confirms when he was born his father was

sick – as told to me by a Suka Nadi expert

 

Ø He must have traveled in early part of his life – till date not confirmed,

only confirmation received is that he has traveled to different cities in his

early part of life.

 

Ø He isn’t too religious, or another way of putting it is he is unorthodox

in his views on religion. – no one from lists have confirmed this, but I read

somewhere recently is that he isn’t loud on his views on religion whereas Bush

pushes Bible in front of himself.

 

Ø Sun is his AK and his AK dasa might have been tough facing problems with

authority as Sun is for govt, Sun/Sun he had problems with govt as per a mail on

list

 

Ø Sun AK is close to lagna along with GL and HL promising fame, he shot to

fame during his Sun period. Sun is also in Nav, AK and lagnamsa combo.

 

Ø AK & Amk have connection very good.

 

ofcourse the above events can match with many charts, so totally relying on SRs

rectification.

 

 

 

Negative Factors

 

Ø During the day of the election result his 7th Lord Ven is in MB, MD Lord

Mer is also lord of Mandi showing tensions or failures.

 

Ø Rahus negative transit on Nep’s 1st extension of 64th Nav.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dasa

 

 

 

Dwisaptati Sama Dasa is applicable since LL is in 7H

 

At the time of 2nd Nov Dwisaptati Sama Dasa running is of Mer/Moon/Rahu

 

 

 

Mer is lord of 8H and 11H, badly placed, so the results should be bad, but still

some use the 11th H as house of Labha or gains, whenever such tough situations

come I resort to D60 ruler and it is Deva, Tamas Guna hence I would prefer to

interpret it as wherein one has to face lot of obstacles. But Mer is Hora Lord

of the chart.

 

>From AL, Mer is the 2nd and 11th L placed in the 5th house of power, I presume a

good combination

 

 

 

Very powerful Pournimasaya Moon is lord of 9H of Bhagya and is exalted with

retro Mars, a chandra mangala Yoga, but Mars is retro so he has to put in a lot

of effort , Moon is also involved in a powerful Gajakeshari Yoga, I presume

since Jup is in the 10H the power would be transferred to 10H of karma and

career. Moon is in Maaya, which is a malefic Shastiamsa, hence can be

disappointing in the classical sense, but as the name suggests Maaya, the post

of President is of the most powerful man on earth which represents Maaya to its

ultimate glory maybe.

 

>From AL, Moon is the exalted 12th Lord placed in the Mahatphalam area,

classically bad if I remember well but since I am getting biased it is good as

it is involved in lot of yogas.

 

 

 

Rahu is 4th co-lord of kingdom, which is aspected by Jup i.e. the House. It is

Kendra lord coming in Kona, who is getting aspect from Mars Moon Sun thro Jamini

.. Somewhere I had read some combination for kings where in 4L was necessary to

be involved, and their was correlation of this to current Prime Ministers, as

usual I have forgotten it, anyways it is from AL 7L placed in 12H of loss, so if

we use the AL technique this could be a period of loss, but from GL & HL it is

in 9th which is 5th from 5th of power. Since confusion has set in here let me

not forget that Rahu is a Mahayogada

 

Rahu is in a benefic Shastiamsa Kshiteesa, (remember to check meaning of

Kshiteesa )

 

 

 

 

 

Patel Bindus

 

 

 

Brighu Bindu 1

 

Brighu Bindu 2

 

Rahu/Moon @

 

Rahu/Sun @

 

20Sg21

 

20Vi53

 

 

 

Verification of 1st Presidential Debate

 

ON around 30th Sept Jup was on 7vi16, Mars was on 8 deg & Mer was 9 deg Vi,

 

 

 

Let me not forget that Jup is his 5L the power giver although its ownership of

2H puts a jiffy.

 

 

 

Now Jup-Ven BB ( I am relying on the software expert who I presume has

calculated it properly) is on 7Vi17, see how close Jup is, some say that Kerry

defeated Bush, Jups is his 2nd lord of Speech and 5L of power giver placed in

10H with gajakeshari yoga which repeats in Nav,

 

Now Ven is his 7L of power to career and unfortunately 12H Lord, but it is

swakestra in rasi and in natural 12H in Nav so there is a chance that this Ven

can be powerful with 5 BAV

 

 

 

On 2nd Nov04

 

 

 

BB2, moon is most fav planet is aspecting his BB2 already in the Bhrigu Orb.

 

 

 

Jup is 14Vi09 & Ven is 11 Vi 39, not on the BB1 point nor in the Bhrigu Orb of

it.

 

Would have preferred Jup on his BB1, it would clinch all the analysis in his

favor.

 

 

 

But Sun is on Rahu Ketu midpoint which is 16Li11 & Sun is at 16Li36, Mr Foss

has hinted that Rahu Ketu midpoint he finds it imp for relationships, since I do

not know the interpretation of this particular midpoint, I await Mr Foss’s mail

on it, the only inference one can make right now is that something significant

in terms of relationship will happen concerning 10H as sun lords it.

Relationship need not be only private but with people too.

 

 

 

Getting tangential another observation is that Jup is bang on just 2 degs away

from the Fame Saham & Respect Saham

 

 

 

Mars –Ketu Mid Point – 16Vi51 on 2nd Jup is on 14Vi09’ just about to reach the

orb, Mars ketu is his lagna lord. Something important is to happen.

 

Sat-Mer Mid Point – 6Vi17

 

Uranus-Ketu midpoint – 14Vi43, Ven is on 11Vi39

 

MC-Ketu midpoint – 15Li26 – on 2nd Nov Sun would be on 16Li36 well within the

Bhrigu Orb

 

 

 

Amk career Moon activates 1st rule extension of 64th Nav of Sun AK, who is 10L.

so in a way this is AK and Amk combining or rather activation.

 

Jup is on 64th Nav of MC (no validation of this theory) as this is not the

classical technique and is not activation the MC in the Rasi chart. The negative

point is Jup is also GK the rival, so am confused here.

 

 

 

Sahams & Dasas

 

I haven’t worked on this new technique ever since I heard about it today, if

someone knows a better & effective way to use Sahams pls disclose. This is one

of Mr. Iyers technique but I presume he used a slightly different way to

calculate Sahams as compared to what is found in normal softwares hence validity

of using this technique is doubtable but would like to attempt.

 

 

 

Dwisaptati Sama Dasa running is of Mer/Moon/Rahu

 

 

 

All 3 level planets are badly placed from each other, from lagna it would be a

different story.

 

Rajya Saham & Punya Saham & Yasas Saham & Mahatmya Saham & Karya Siddi Saham

play imp role here logically – would like to extend my thinking here and use

Putra Saham since for a Raja (King) his subjects are like his children and for

the President the citizens become his children in a way upon presidentship the

welfare or burden of the subjects get thrown on his so one can say that there is

prapti or gain of children – this is my own theory and not read it anywhere so

if one critiques me pls don’t ask for source of information. Extending it

logically so would Pitru Saham play an imp role.

 

 

 

Punya Saham is in Ta

 

Mahatmya Saham is in Sc

 

Rajya Saham is in Ta

 

Yasas Saham is in 16Vi 48

 

Karya Siddhi Saham is in Sc

 

Karma Saham is Ge

 

 

 

Here Star Lord position of Sahams also need to be used but the software doesn’t

give it. Now see the lords & planets in the above 5 Sahams & their signs, they

are Mars, Ven, Mer , Mars and Moon as they are in Ta, now 2 or above of these

combination if they get involved with the Dasa sequence which is Mer/Moon/Rahu

then the Sahams give result in these dasas. Ven is not getting involved in the

dasa sequence upto PD level but it is soul is in Rahu and Rahu is involved in

dasa.

 

 

 

Something imp is going to happen in this dasa and I feel there is success

written. Interpretation of the technique is one thing which is dependant on the

student and correctness of the technique is another.

 

 

 

I would love to get 2 things, the time when the result would be declared and

DTPC of Bush and Kerry for the date of election result i.e 2nd Nov.

 

Somewhere today I felt that I hope this time also the election results do not

get delayed.

 

 

 

There are many reasons why people predict on political events, either to get

fame or test one’s technique. Political predictions is the domain of big wigs

and I am an amateur student even if this prediction goes right I cannot take

credit, but would surely be happy that the techniques were used properly by me

hopefully.

 

 

 

Thanks for your time and patience in this long analysis and to make it short

many things were deleted. If anyone has studied Seshadri Iyers techniques can

he/she be kind enough to write to me privately, I have some doubts and would

need some guidance, would be most indebted. Shall post on Bush soon.

 

Summary: Kerry can win surely (only the Lord knows the future, we can only

attempt)

 

What is the opinion of the famous psychics of America, do they feel he is the

walk-in American president that they have been waiting for so long.

 

Humbly

 

Om Tat Sat

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Sunil,

 

Did you notice the prediction made by me about 6 months back based on solar

return charts of USA.

 

It appeared in Express Star Teller as well and was floated on different lists.

 

Best regards,

Prakash Kandpal

 

-

Sunil John <jjnet2000_in

Mon, 4 Oct 2004 01:47:35 -0700 (PDT)

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John Kerry - Is he the One

 

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Re: Longitude: 104 W 59' 03"

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Re: Latitude: 39 N 44' 21"

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Re: Altitude: 260.00 meters

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Re:

Re: Data Provided by SRs mail & since it was provided by another western

astrologer I have taken this.

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Other charts floating on the list was confusing to my limited knowledge &

this one fitted with few points as known of his past. I had the birth time

rectified by Yogi Karve but I have lost that mail, as months back I was not

interested in political predictions. If I find that mail I shall post it to the

list.

Re:

Re: Another western astrologer friend gave this

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: data for John Kerry – December 11, 1943 – 8.03am MWT –

time of birth given by John Kerry to Boston astrologer Karen Thorne in 1996.

Location Fitzsimons, CO (Colorado) – long 104W48 latitude 39N45.

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: But I am not sure if DST is to be applied or not and what is MWT, if

anyone knows which exact time zone to be used and if DST is applicable pls

explain this complicated process publicly or privately.

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Basic Observations

Re:

Re: Ø Rahus placement in Rasi chart confirms when he was born his father was

sick – as told to me by a Suka Nadi expert

Re:

Re: Ø He must have traveled in early part of his life – till date not

confirmed, only confirmation received is that he has traveled to different

cities in his early part of life.

Re:

Re: Ø He isn’t too religious, or another way of putting it is he is

unorthodox in his views on religion. – no one from lists have confirmed

this, but I read somewhere recently is that he isn’t loud on his views on

religion whereas Bush pushes Bible in front of himself.

Re:

Re: Ø Sun is his AK and his AK dasa might have been tough facing problems

with authority as Sun is for govt, Sun/Sun he had problems with govt as per a

mail on list

Re:

Re: Ø Sun AK is close to lagna along with GL and HL promising fame, he shot

to fame during his Sun period. Sun is also in Nav, AK and lagnamsa combo.

Re:

Re: Ø AK & Amk have connection very good.

Re:

Re: ofcourse the above events can match with many charts, so totally relying on

SRs rectification.

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Negative Factors

Re:

Re: Ø During the day of the election result his 7th Lord Ven is in MB, MD

Lord Mer is also lord of Mandi showing tensions or failures.

Re:

Re: Ø Rahus negative transit on Nep’s 1st extension of 64th Nav.

Re:

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Re:

Re:

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Re:

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Re: Dasa

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Dwisaptati Sama Dasa is applicable since LL is in 7H

Re:

Re: At the time of 2nd Nov Dwisaptati Sama Dasa running is of Mer/Moon/Rahu

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Mer is lord of 8H and 11H, badly placed, so the results should be bad, but

still some use the 11th H as house of Labha or gains, whenever such tough

situations come I resort to D60 ruler and it is Deva, Tamas Guna hence I would

prefer to interpret it as wherein one has to face lot of obstacles. But Mer is

Hora Lord of the chart.

Re:

Re: From AL, Mer is the 2nd and 11th L placed in the 5th house of power, I

presume a good combination

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Very powerful Pournimasaya Moon is lord of 9H of Bhagya and is exalted with

retro Mars, a chandra mangala Yoga, but Mars is retro so he has to put in a lot

of effort , Moon is also involved in a powerful Gajakeshari Yoga, I presume

since Jup is in the 10H the power would be transferred to 10H of karma and

career. Moon is in Maaya, which is a malefic Shastiamsa, hence can be

disappointing in the classical sense, but as the name suggests Maaya, the post

of President is of the most powerful man on earth which represents Maaya to its

ultimate glory maybe.

Re:

Re: From AL, Moon is the exalted 12th Lord placed in the Mahatphalam area,

classically bad if I remember well but since I am getting biased it is good as

it is involved in lot of yogas.

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Rahu is 4th co-lord of kingdom, which is aspected by Jup i.e. the House. It

is Kendra lord coming in Kona, who is getting aspect from Mars Moon Sun thro

Jamini . Somewhere I had read some combination for kings where in 4L was

necessary to be involved, and their was correlation of this to current Prime

Ministers, as usual I have forgotten it, anyways it is from AL 7L placed in 12H

of loss, so if we use the AL technique this could be a period of loss, but from

GL & HL it is in 9th which is 5th from 5th of power. Since confusion has set in

here let me not forget that Rahu is a Mahayogada

Re:

Re: Rahu is in a benefic Shastiamsa Kshiteesa, (remember to check meaning of

Kshiteesa )

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Patel Bindus

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Brighu Bindu 1

Re:

Re: Brighu Bindu 2

Re:

Re: Rahu/Moon @

Re:

Re: Rahu/Sun @

Re:

Re: 20Sg21

Re:

Re: 20Vi53

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Verification of 1st Presidential Debate

Re:

Re: ON around 30th Sept Jup was on 7vi16, Mars was on 8 deg & Mer was 9 deg Vi,

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Let me not forget that Jup is his 5L the power giver although its ownership

of 2H puts a jiffy.

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Now Jup-Ven BB ( I am relying on the software expert who I presume has

calculated it properly) is on 7Vi17, see how close Jup is, some say that Kerry

defeated Bush, Jups is his 2nd lord of Speech and 5L of power giver placed in

10H with gajakeshari yoga which repeats in Nav,

Re:

Re: Now Ven is his 7L of power to career and unfortunately 12H Lord, but it is

swakestra in rasi and in natural 12H in Nav so there is a chance that this Ven

can be powerful with 5 BAV

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: On 2nd Nov04

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Re:

Re: BB2, moon is most fav planet is aspecting his BB2 already in the Bhrigu Orb.

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Jup is 14Vi09 & Ven is 11 Vi 39, not on the BB1 point nor in the Bhrigu Orb

of it.

Re:

Re: Would have preferred Jup on his BB1, it would clinch all the analysis in his

favor.

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: But Sun is on Rahu Ketu midpoint which is 16Li11 & Sun is at 16Li36, Mr

Foss has hinted that Rahu Ketu midpoint he finds it imp for relationships, since

I do not know the interpretation of this particular midpoint, I await Mr

Foss’s mail on it, the only inference one can make right now is that

something significant in terms of relationship will happen concerning 10H as sun

lords it. Relationship need not be only private but with people too.

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Getting tangential another observation is that Jup is bang on just 2 degs

away from the Fame Saham & Respect Saham

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Mars –Ketu Mid Point – 16Vi51 on 2nd Jup is on 14Vi09’

just about to reach the orb, Mars ketu is his lagna lord. Something important is

to happen.

Re:

Re: Sat-Mer Mid Point – 6Vi17

Re:

Re: Uranus-Ketu midpoint – 14Vi43, Ven is on 11Vi39

Re:

Re: MC-Ketu midpoint – 15Li26 – on 2nd Nov Sun would be on 16Li36

well within the Bhrigu Orb

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Amk career Moon activates 1st rule extension of 64th Nav of Sun AK, who is

10L. so in a way this is AK and Amk combining or rather activation.

Re:

Re: Jup is on 64th Nav of MC (no validation of this theory) as this is not the

classical technique and is not activation the MC in the Rasi chart. The negative

point is Jup is also GK the rival, so am confused here.

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Sahams & Dasas

Re:

Re: I haven’t worked on this new technique ever since I heard about it

today, if someone knows a better & effective way to use Sahams pls disclose.

This is one of Mr. Iyers technique but I presume he used a slightly different

way to calculate Sahams as compared to what is found in normal softwares hence

validity of using this technique is doubtable but would like to attempt.

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Dwisaptati Sama Dasa running is of Mer/Moon/Rahu

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: All 3 level planets are badly placed from each other, from lagna it would be

a different story.

Re:

Re: Rajya Saham & Punya Saham & Yasas Saham & Mahatmya Saham & Karya Siddi Saham

play imp role here logically – would like to extend my thinking here and

use Putra Saham since for a Raja (King) his subjects are like his children and

for the President the citizens become his children in a way upon presidentship

the welfare or burden of the subjects get thrown on his so one can say that

there is prapti or gain of children – this is my own theory and not read

it anywhere so if one critiques me pls don’t ask for source of

information. Extending it logically so would Pitru Saham play an imp role.

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Punya Saham is in Ta

Re:

Re: Mahatmya Saham is in Sc

Re:

Re: Rajya Saham is in Ta

Re:

Re: Yasas Saham is in 16Vi 48

Re:

Re: Karya Siddhi Saham is in Sc

Re:

Re: Karma Saham is Ge

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Here Star Lord position of Sahams also need to be used but the software

doesn’t give it. Now see the lords & planets in the above 5 Sahams & their

signs, they are Mars, Ven, Mer , Mars and Moon as they are in Ta, now 2 or above

of these combination if they get involved with the Dasa sequence which is

Mer/Moon/Rahu then the Sahams give result in these dasas. Ven is not getting

involved in the dasa sequence upto PD level but it is soul is in Rahu and Rahu

is involved in dasa.

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Something imp is going to happen in this dasa and I feel there is success

written. Interpretation of the technique is one thing which is dependant on the

student and correctness of the technique is another.

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: I would love to get 2 things, the time when the result would be declared and

DTPC of Bush and Kerry for the date of election result i.e 2nd Nov.

Re:

Re: Somewhere today I felt that I hope this time also the election results do

not get delayed.

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: There are many reasons why people predict on political events, either to get

fame or test one’s technique. Political predictions is the domain of big

wigs and I am an amateur student even if this prediction goes right I cannot

take credit, but would surely be happy that the techniques were used properly by

me hopefully.

Re:

Re:

Re:

Re: Thanks for your time and patience in this long analysis and to make it short

many things were deleted. If anyone has studied Seshadri Iyers techniques can

he/she be kind enough to write to me privately, I have some doubts and would

need some guidance, would be most indebted. Shall post on Bush soon.

Re:

Re: Summary: Kerry can win surely (only the Lord knows the future, we can only

attempt)

Re:

Re: What is the opinion of the famous psychics of America, do they feel he is

the walk-in American president that they have been waiting for so long.

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