Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Hi Chris: Wanted to mention per your reply that Komilla Sutton has a good analysis of the US election in Mountain Astrologer Oct/Nov emphasizing the = Libra-Sun, Mars, Ketu influence creating terrorism and war prior to the election, favoring Kerry to win (these planets in Kerry's 12th house from t= he Ascendant but the 11th from dasha ruler Mercury "so the quality of these planets improves from one of loss to one of profit." She also says: "...the= only thing that can save the Bush presidency from defeat is if the ecliipses re= veal the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden in time for Bush to use this to his advantage." She uses the birth chart of the 2004 election when the first vo= tes are cast: 12:01 a.m. in Dixville Notfh, New Hampshire, with the Moon in Gemini, changing from Ardra to Punarvasu in which "...Ardra destroys one political idealogy to create a new one. Punarvasu means finding another home where new ideas can flourish." It's a good article. Thought you might = be interested in seeing a positive Vedic analysis. Janna http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ valist, "Christopher Kevill" <christopher.kevill@s..= ..> wrote: > Dear Janna, > > Thanks for the St Augustine chart -- I'll check it out. The 1845 chart > represents the incorporation of the state of Florida into the USA. > > The nodes are a tricky subject and yet they are so important for assessin= g a > chart. I think our better understanding of the nodes is one of the reaso= ns > why Vedic astrology is better at prediction and life assessment than west= ern > astrology. While they are both natural malefics, they can bring blessing= s > and good times if they are under positive influences, either by transit o= r > natally. More than any other planets, Rahu and Ketu absorb and refract t= he > influences upon them. They have their own peculiar character in which th= ey > transfer the energy in the chart. > > I hadn't thought about the hurricanes as omens, but I guess they could be= .. > If one uses a USA chart from July 4 1776, then Saturn's station in early > November falls exactly on Mercury, which is another reason why we can't > expect the election to run smoothly. > > On Bush -- yes, I do see him winning re-election, although I'm no fan of= > his policies. I find I have to say that because so many astrologers are > picking Kerry to win (esp. western astrologers for some reason). Most of= > these astrologers are left-leaning themselves, so perhaps that's part of = a > larger bias problem. (I know have this problem when reading charts for > friends: I want so much for good things to happen so it's tougher to be > objective) It almost seems like if you predict Bush to win, it is someh= ow > interpreted that you support his policies. > > Chris > > > - > "Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn> > <valist> > Sunday, September 12, 2004 12:39 PM > Re: Stationary Nodes > > > > Dear Chris: Your insights are thought-provoking since I intuitionally > thought > that the hurricanes have been "a warning" about the US 2000/04 > elections > (with the People suffering the consequences, not the officials, as I > think the > People also will if Bush is re-elected. I think it was on your web > site that you > place Bush in a good position to be re-elected, and I think the > consequences > will be disastrous for this country, with the People paying the price > for lack of > discernment in re-electing him). > > But I do see Ketu's 5th aspect on the FL chart (Mar 3 1845 00.00 LMT > Tallahassee), which you've pointed out. (Interestingly, I had pulled > up one > somewhere for St. Augustine, which was the first European settlement > in > 1565, but I think your point is that the establishment of the > "government" > (Tallahasee) in turn impacted by the hurricanes is in need of > "cleansing," and > interestingly, the course of Hurricane Ivan is now scheduled to make > landfall > closer to Tallahasee than South Florida, and I agree with you I think > the > hurricanes are an "omen" for what is yet to come in the 2004 election > (as in > Greek and Shakespearean tragedy). > > I've put the St Augustine chart below (not sure of its accuracy); > it's also watery > with nurturing Cancer lagna/Leo Sun. > > Thanks for your insights. > > Janna > > Based on Chart for Saint Augustine, FL August 28, 1565 3:33 am > Date of Birth 28/8/1565 > Time 03:33:30 Zone: -5.0 > Country USA > City/District Saint Augustine > Longitude 81:19 Latitude : 29:54 > Day Saving Time NO(also for War Time Correction) > West North > > Degrees of Planets > House > Degrees Rasi Lord Nakshatra Nav > Ascendant 23°18'52" Can Moon Ashlesha Cap > Sun 26°29'2" Leo Sun Purva Phalguni Sco > Moon 27°2'16" Vir Mar Chitra Vir > Mars 26°46'42" Tau Ven Mrigashira Vir > Mercury 0°10'19" Vir Mar Uttara Phalguni Cap > Jupiter 0°37'24" Vir Mar Uttara Phalguni Cap > Venus 6°42'42" Vir Mar Uttara Phalguni Pis > Saturn 6°2'16" Leo Sun Magha Tau > Uranus 20°26'5" Sco Mar Jyeshtha Cap > Neptune 24°38'34" Tau Ven Mrigashira Leo > Pluto 29°15'58" Aqu Sat Purva Bhadrapada Gem > Rahu 17°21'51" Sco Mar Jyeshtha Sag > Ketu 17°21'51" Tau Ven Rohini Gem > > > valist, "Christopher Kevill" > <christopher.kevill@s...> > wrote: > > Dear Janna, > > > > Just a note on the possible nodal influence on Florida this > hurrican season. > > If you use the Florida horoscope (Mar 3 1845 00.00 LMT Tallahassee) > you > get > > 8 Scorpio rising. Since Rahu and Ketu will be stationed on this > degree in > > other signs, this is likely to create some noteworthy events, and > it's more > > than likely that they will be interruptions of the status quo. > That is one > > thing that nodes often do -- they are a force for change. > > > > Ketu is more trouble than Rahu, and it will be Ketu that will aspect > > Florida's equal 4th house cusp (8Aquarius) of residences and > population, > so > > it's possible that there will be more damaging storms in the coming > two > > months. (I think that transit Saturn's square to Pluto won't help > in this > > regard) Since the 4th house also rules other things, I think other > > developments are possible. Given the shady history of Florida's > electoral > > practices, I think we have to pay close attention to the run-up and > > aftermath of the election in that battleground state. > > > > hope this helps, > > Chris > > > > > > - > > "Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn> > > <valist> > > Sunday, September 12, 2004 9:54 AM > > Stationary Nodes > > > > > > > Dear List: > > > > > > The nodes are stationary today 8* Aries-Libra through 25 > November. Is > > > there > > > anyone knowledgeable about how the nodes impact a chart in Vedic > > > astrology could someone direct me to someone who has written about > > > it? > > > > > > Could the nodal station have an impact on the hurricanes in > Florida? > > > Or is > > > there a planetary combination (or planets) that influences severe > > > natural > > > phenonomena such as hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, etc.? > Could > > > there > > > be a correlation with the Leo Sun-Mars combustion exact September > 15, > > > 29*? > > > What is the general interpretation for this conjunction? > > > > > > Thank you for any illumination anyone can provide. > > > > > > Janna > > > > > > "When the bells ring the spirit of Wind sings: > > > All is Full, from Full comes Full, take Full from Full, what is > left > > > is Full." > > > > > > Om Purnamada Purnamidam Purnat Purnamadachayte > > > Purnasya, Purnamadaya, Purname Va vashisyate. > > > > > > Om Shantih, Shantih, Shantih. > > > > > > -- Please visit my web site: http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.714 / Virus Database: 470 - Release 7/2/04 > > > > > > Links > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.714 / Virus Database: 470 - Release 7/2/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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