Guest guest Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 Hello Janna Nodes are a big topic. Indeed. In brief, very brief, here is my idea. Nodes creates problems when in short aspects/conjunctions. Within 5 deg. They distort, infect, create confusion, manipulation, lack of clarity and discernenment. People resort to lies, deception, esp with Rahu. Ketu can bring separation, sever ties, or bring urgency for spiritual search, rarely, if connected with Jupiter and Sun/Jupiter or 9th are influential/strong. I would suggest the material by Choudhry, even though I find him on the negative side, rather limited point of view. www.yournetastrologer.com At least he is clear headed and sharp. Its a good starting point. Best to you Pierre Janna Lynn wrote: >Dear List: > >The nodes are stationary today 8* Aries-Libra through 25 November. Is >there >anyone knowledgeable about how the nodes impact a chart in Vedic >astrology could someone direct me to someone who has written about >it? > >Could the nodal station have an impact on the hurricanes in Florida? >Or is >there a planetary combination (or planets) that influences severe >natural >phenonomena such as hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, etc.? Could >there >be a correlation with the Leo Sun-Mars combustion exact September 15, >29*? >What is the general interpretation for this conjunction? > >Thank you for any illumination anyone can provide. > >Janna > >"When the bells ring the spirit of Wind sings: >All is Full, from Full comes Full, take Full from Full, what is left >is Full." > >Om Purnamada Purnamidam Purnat Purnamadachayte >Purnasya, Purnamadaya, Purname Va vashisyate. > >Om Shantih, Shantih, Shantih. > >-- Please visit my web site: http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ > Links > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 Dear Janna, Just a note on the possible nodal influence on Florida this hurrican season. If you use the Florida horoscope (Mar 3 1845 00.00 LMT Tallahassee) you get 8 Scorpio rising. Since Rahu and Ketu will be stationed on this degree in other signs, this is likely to create some noteworthy events, and it's more than likely that they will be interruptions of the status quo. That is one thing that nodes often do -- they are a force for change. Ketu is more trouble than Rahu, and it will be Ketu that will aspect Florida's equal 4th house cusp (8Aquarius) of residences and population, so it's possible that there will be more damaging storms in the coming two months. (I think that transit Saturn's square to Pluto won't help in this regard) Since the 4th house also rules other things, I think other developments are possible. Given the shady history of Florida's electoral practices, I think we have to pay close attention to the run-up and aftermath of the election in that battleground state. hope this helps, Chris - "Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn <valist> Sunday, September 12, 2004 9:54 AM Stationary Nodes > Dear List: > > The nodes are stationary today 8* Aries-Libra through 25 November. Is > there > anyone knowledgeable about how the nodes impact a chart in Vedic > astrology could someone direct me to someone who has written about > it? > > Could the nodal station have an impact on the hurricanes in Florida? > Or is > there a planetary combination (or planets) that influences severe > natural > phenonomena such as hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, etc.? Could > there > be a correlation with the Leo Sun-Mars combustion exact September 15, > 29*? > What is the general interpretation for this conjunction? > > Thank you for any illumination anyone can provide. > > Janna > > "When the bells ring the spirit of Wind sings: > All is Full, from Full comes Full, take Full from Full, what is left > is Full." > > Om Purnamada Purnamidam Purnat Purnamadachayte > Purnasya, Purnamadaya, Purname Va vashisyate. > > Om Shantih, Shantih, Shantih. > > -- Please visit my web site: http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.714 / Virus Database: 470 - Release 7/2/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 Dear Chris: Your insights are thought-provoking since I intuitionally thought that the hurricanes have been "a warning" about the US 2000/04 elections (with the People suffering the consequences, not the officials, as I think the People also will if Bush is re-elected. I think it was on your web site that you place Bush in a good position to be re-elected, and I think the consequences will be disastrous for this country, with the People paying the price for lack of discernment in re-electing him). But I do see Ketu's 5th aspect on the FL chart (Mar 3 1845 00.00 LMT Tallahassee), which you've pointed out. (Interestingly, I had pulled up one somewhere for St. Augustine, which was the first European settlement in 1565, but I think your point is that the establishment of the "government" (Tallahasee) in turn impacted by the hurricanes is in need of "cleansing," and interestingly, the course of Hurricane Ivan is now scheduled to make landfall closer to Tallahasee than South Florida, and I agree with you I think the hurricanes are an "omen" for what is yet to come in the 2004 election (as in Greek and Shakespearean tragedy). I've put the St Augustine chart below (not sure of its accuracy); it's also watery with nurturing Cancer lagna/Leo Sun. Thanks for your insights. Janna Based on Chart for Saint Augustine, FL August 28, 1565 3:33 am Date of Birth 28/8/1565 Time 03:33:30 Zone: -5.0 Country USA City/District Saint Augustine Longitude 81:19 Latitude : 29:54 Day Saving Time NO(also for War Time Correction) West North Degrees of Planets House Degrees Rasi Lord Nakshatra Nav Ascendant 23°18'52" Can Moon Ashlesha Cap Sun 26°29'2" Leo Sun Purva Phalguni Sco Moon 27°2'16" Vir Mar Chitra Vir Mars 26°46'42" Tau Ven Mrigashira Vir Mercury 0°10'19" Vir Mar Uttara Phalguni Cap Jupiter 0°37'24" Vir Mar Uttara Phalguni Cap Venus 6°42'42" Vir Mar Uttara Phalguni Pis Saturn 6°2'16" Leo Sun Magha Tau Uranus 20°26'5" Sco Mar Jyeshtha Cap Neptune 24°38'34" Tau Ven Mrigashira Leo Pluto 29°15'58" Aqu Sat Purva Bhadrapada Gem Rahu 17°21'51" Sco Mar Jyeshtha Sag Ketu 17°21'51" Tau Ven Rohini Gem valist, "Christopher Kevill" <christopher.kevill@s...> wrote: > Dear Janna, > > Just a note on the possible nodal influence on Florida this hurrican season. > If you use the Florida horoscope (Mar 3 1845 00.00 LMT Tallahassee) you get > 8 Scorpio rising. Since Rahu and Ketu will be stationed on this degree in > other signs, this is likely to create some noteworthy events, and it's more > than likely that they will be interruptions of the status quo. That is one > thing that nodes often do -- they are a force for change. > > Ketu is more trouble than Rahu, and it will be Ketu that will aspect > Florida's equal 4th house cusp (8Aquarius) of residences and population, so > it's possible that there will be more damaging storms in the coming two > months. (I think that transit Saturn's square to Pluto won't help in this > regard) Since the 4th house also rules other things, I think other > developments are possible. Given the shady history of Florida's electoral > practices, I think we have to pay close attention to the run-up and > aftermath of the election in that battleground state. > > hope this helps, > Chris > > > - > "Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn> > <valist> > Sunday, September 12, 2004 9:54 AM > Stationary Nodes > > > > Dear List: > > > > The nodes are stationary today 8* Aries-Libra through 25 November. Is > > there > > anyone knowledgeable about how the nodes impact a chart in Vedic > > astrology could someone direct me to someone who has written about > > it? > > > > Could the nodal station have an impact on the hurricanes in Florida? > > Or is > > there a planetary combination (or planets) that influences severe > > natural > > phenonomena such as hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, etc.? Could > > there > > be a correlation with the Leo Sun-Mars combustion exact September 15, > > 29*? > > What is the general interpretation for this conjunction? > > > > Thank you for any illumination anyone can provide. > > > > Janna > > > > "When the bells ring the spirit of Wind sings: > > All is Full, from Full comes Full, take Full from Full, what is left > > is Full." > > > > Om Purnamada Purnamidam Purnat Purnamadachayte > > Purnasya, Purnamadaya, Purname Va vashisyate. > > > > Om Shantih, Shantih, Shantih. > > > > -- Please visit my web site: http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.714 / Virus Database: 470 - Release 7/2/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 Thanks, too, Pierre, for your reply. I had posted queries on the list last spring when the nodes again stationed, and have read different articles, including Komilla Sutton, and others. I do think the stations and the time leading up to them usher in great changes, as Chris suggests, and this nodal station does take place during the US Presidential elections, suggesting to me, unfortunately more "shadow government" and all of the aspects of this you list, deception, manipulation, etc. Virgo-Aries Sun-Moon eclipses also occur in October just before the November election; not sure how this impacts the US chart and Kerry-Bush? Janna valist, Pierre Touchard <pierre.touchard@n...> wrote: > Hello Janna > > Nodes are a big topic. Indeed. In brief, very brief, here is my > idea. Nodes creates problems when in short aspects/conjunctions. > Within 5 deg. They distort, infect, create confusion, manipulation, > lack of clarity and discernenment. People resort to lies, deception, > esp with Rahu. Ketu can bring separation, sever ties, or bring urgency > for spiritual search, rarely, if connected with Jupiter and Sun/Jupiter > or 9th are influential/strong. > > I would suggest the material by Choudhry, even though I find him on the > negative side, rather limited point of view. www.yournetastrologer.com > At least he is clear headed and sharp. Its a good starting point. > > Best to you > Pierre > > > Janna Lynn wrote: > > >Dear List: > > > >The nodes are stationary today 8* Aries-Libra through 25 November. Is > >there > >anyone knowledgeable about how the nodes impact a chart in Vedic > >astrology could someone direct me to someone who has written about > >it? > > > >Could the nodal station have an impact on the hurricanes in Florida? > >Or is > >there a planetary combination (or planets) that influences severe > >natural > >phenonomena such as hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, etc.? Could > >there > >be a correlation with the Leo Sun-Mars combustion exact September 15, > >29*? > >What is the general interpretation for this conjunction? > > > >Thank you for any illumination anyone can provide. > > > >Janna > > > >"When the bells ring the spirit of Wind sings: > >All is Full, from Full comes Full, take Full from Full, what is left > >is Full." > > > >Om Purnamada Purnamidam Purnat Purnamadachayte > >Purnasya, Purnamadaya, Purname Va vashisyate. > > > >Om Shantih, Shantih, Shantih. > > > >-- Please visit my web site: http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 Dear Janna, Thanks for the St Augustine chart -- I'll check it out. The 1845 chart represents the incorporation of the state of Florida into the USA. The nodes are a tricky subject and yet they are so important for assessing a chart. I think our better understanding of the nodes is one of the reasons why Vedic astrology is better at prediction and life assessment than western astrology. While they are both natural malefics, they can bring blessings and good times if they are under positive influences, either by transit or natally. More than any other planets, Rahu and Ketu absorb and refract the influences upon them. They have their own peculiar character in which they transfer the energy in the chart. I hadn't thought about the hurricanes as omens, but I guess they could be. If one uses a USA chart from July 4 1776, then Saturn's station in early November falls exactly on Mercury, which is another reason why we can't expect the election to run smoothly. On Bush -- yes, I do see him winning re-election, although I'm no fan of his policies. I find I have to say that because so many astrologers are picking Kerry to win (esp. western astrologers for some reason). Most of these astrologers are left-leaning themselves, so perhaps that's part of a larger bias problem. (I know have this problem when reading charts for friends: I want so much for good things to happen so it's tougher to be objective) It almost seems like if you predict Bush to win, it is somehow interpreted that you support his policies. Chris - "Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn <valist> Sunday, September 12, 2004 12:39 PM Re: Stationary Nodes Dear Chris: Your insights are thought-provoking since I intuitionally thought that the hurricanes have been "a warning" about the US 2000/04 elections (with the People suffering the consequences, not the officials, as I think the People also will if Bush is re-elected. I think it was on your web site that you place Bush in a good position to be re-elected, and I think the consequences will be disastrous for this country, with the People paying the price for lack of discernment in re-electing him). But I do see Ketu's 5th aspect on the FL chart (Mar 3 1845 00.00 LMT Tallahassee), which you've pointed out. (Interestingly, I had pulled up one somewhere for St. Augustine, which was the first European settlement in 1565, but I think your point is that the establishment of the "government" (Tallahasee) in turn impacted by the hurricanes is in need of "cleansing," and interestingly, the course of Hurricane Ivan is now scheduled to make landfall closer to Tallahasee than South Florida, and I agree with you I think the hurricanes are an "omen" for what is yet to come in the 2004 election (as in Greek and Shakespearean tragedy). I've put the St Augustine chart below (not sure of its accuracy); it's also watery with nurturing Cancer lagna/Leo Sun. Thanks for your insights. Janna Based on Chart for Saint Augustine, FL August 28, 1565 3:33 am Date of Birth 28/8/1565 Time 03:33:30 Zone: -5.0 Country USA City/District Saint Augustine Longitude 81:19 Latitude : 29:54 Day Saving Time NO(also for War Time Correction) West North Degrees of Planets House Degrees Rasi Lord Nakshatra Nav Ascendant 23°18'52" Can Moon Ashlesha Cap Sun 26°29'2" Leo Sun Purva Phalguni Sco Moon 27°2'16" Vir Mar Chitra Vir Mars 26°46'42" Tau Ven Mrigashira Vir Mercury 0°10'19" Vir Mar Uttara Phalguni Cap Jupiter 0°37'24" Vir Mar Uttara Phalguni Cap Venus 6°42'42" Vir Mar Uttara Phalguni Pis Saturn 6°2'16" Leo Sun Magha Tau Uranus 20°26'5" Sco Mar Jyeshtha Cap Neptune 24°38'34" Tau Ven Mrigashira Leo Pluto 29°15'58" Aqu Sat Purva Bhadrapada Gem Rahu 17°21'51" Sco Mar Jyeshtha Sag Ketu 17°21'51" Tau Ven Rohini Gem valist, "Christopher Kevill" <christopher.kevill@s...> wrote: > Dear Janna, > > Just a note on the possible nodal influence on Florida this hurrican season. > If you use the Florida horoscope (Mar 3 1845 00.00 LMT Tallahassee) you get > 8 Scorpio rising. Since Rahu and Ketu will be stationed on this degree in > other signs, this is likely to create some noteworthy events, and it's more > than likely that they will be interruptions of the status quo. That is one > thing that nodes often do -- they are a force for change. > > Ketu is more trouble than Rahu, and it will be Ketu that will aspect > Florida's equal 4th house cusp (8Aquarius) of residences and population, so > it's possible that there will be more damaging storms in the coming two > months. (I think that transit Saturn's square to Pluto won't help in this > regard) Since the 4th house also rules other things, I think other > developments are possible. Given the shady history of Florida's electoral > practices, I think we have to pay close attention to the run-up and > aftermath of the election in that battleground state. > > hope this helps, > Chris > > > - > "Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn> > <valist> > Sunday, September 12, 2004 9:54 AM > Stationary Nodes > > > > Dear List: > > > > The nodes are stationary today 8* Aries-Libra through 25 November. Is > > there > > anyone knowledgeable about how the nodes impact a chart in Vedic > > astrology could someone direct me to someone who has written about > > it? > > > > Could the nodal station have an impact on the hurricanes in Florida? > > Or is > > there a planetary combination (or planets) that influences severe > > natural > > phenonomena such as hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, etc.? Could > > there > > be a correlation with the Leo Sun-Mars combustion exact September 15, > > 29*? > > What is the general interpretation for this conjunction? > > > > Thank you for any illumination anyone can provide. > > > > Janna > > > > "When the bells ring the spirit of Wind sings: > > All is Full, from Full comes Full, take Full from Full, what is left > > is Full." > > > > Om Purnamada Purnamidam Purnat Purnamadachayte > > Purnasya, Purnamadaya, Purname Va vashisyate. > > > > Om Shantih, Shantih, Shantih. > > > > -- Please visit my web site: http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.714 / Virus Database: 470 - Release 7/2/04 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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