Guest guest Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Could i request any expert or amateur to analyse the following data: Date of Birth Jan 09th 1962 Time of Birth 13.30 hrs Indian Standard Time Place of Birth Thanjavur, Tamil Nadu This person seems to be interested in spritual and would like take up Sanyasa. This person seems to be much frustrated and disappointed in life. Could any one please analyse the above data and advise. Thanks in advance for your analysis and help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 Hi, --- DISCLAIMER: I AM A NOVICE AT INTERPRETATIONS AND ANY OF THE INDICATIONS MENTIONED ABOVE SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS CORRECT UNLESS AN EXPERT AGREES WITH IT. --- The native has an Aries Asc. and KE, JU, ME and SA in his 10th. SU,VE and MA are in the 9th and MO in the 11th. 10th house is very tricky. JU is neecha, conjoint with malefics (SA & KE), Conjoint with ME lord of 3rd and 6th. I think the key to interpretation here is the position of Ketu. KE in 10, in CAP will cause him to be "unattached" and "not belong" to society at large. While the influence of JU will give this a religious bent, SA, in own house, in CAP will be a greater influence and will generally push the person in taking a higher ground. This will make the "unattachedness" or "not belonging-ness" to manifest itself as "i-am-more-righteous-than-thou" (due to the combined influence of SA and JU) attitude which will further put the native not mix with the society at large. The influence of ME will probably make him vocal about these aspects. MO in the 11th, in AQ, unaspected, will cause mental agony. Could manifest in multiple ways, but primarily, the native will have something to worry about most of the time. >From Chandra-lagna, for a peaceful life, you need strong kendras and an empty 12th. Here it is just the opposite, all the kendras are empty and the 12th has KE, JU, SA and ME. This clearly explains the frustration and disappointment. Now, is "sanyasa" indicated in the horoscope? My interpretation is NO. "Sanyasa" generally needs a non-afflicted KE and a benefic JU. Both these are missing in this chart. Also, VE conjoint MA in the 9th. will make the native very passionate. This will also work counter productively for a successful "Sanyasa". As mentioned up-front, I am not an expert. The reason for this mail is to have a healthy debate and better understand horoscope interpretations. I welcome any debate on any of the aspects mentioned above. -- DISCLAIMER: I AM A NOVICE AT INTERPRETATIONS AND ANY OF THE INDICATIONS MENTIONED ABOVE SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS CORRECT UNLESS AN EXPERT AGREES WITH IT. ---- On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 ravikris wrote : > >Could i request any expert or amateur to analyse the following data: >Date of Birth Jan 09th 1962 >Time of Birth 13.30 hrs Indian Standard Time >Place of Birth Thanjavur, Tamil Nadu > >This person seems to be interested in spritual and would like take up >Sanyasa. This person seems to be much frustrated and disappointed in >life. >Could any one please analyse the above data and advise. > >Thanks in advance for your analysis and help. Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 Hello Ravikris, Hare Krishna. As per the data provided below, the sign Libra is rising in the Ascendnat. The 12th lord malefic Mercury significator of bed pleasure conjuncts very closely the 5th lord Saturn combusted significator of Romance in 4h of Saturn controlling emotion of all types in association with the Guru debilitated (obstruction in spiritual life) at R/K axis with the afflicted 10th lord Moon (emotionally disturbed) are the reasons of his present feelings of frustration which are not suitable for Sanyasa due to the above planetary combination besides the Mars (Lord of Spouse) conjuncting the Lagna Lord Venus weakened due to its dispositor which further indicates material attraction (involvements) and obstacle in spiritual life. At present, the native is running weak main period of Saturn in the sub period of malefic Mercury which brings about feeling of frustration. My strong suggestion to the native is to begin reading Bhagavat Gita As It Is by HDG .A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabupad and chant the Maha Mantra, "Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram Ram Hare Hare" as much as possible at any time and place in order to make his life sublime. Hari Bol. OM TAT SAT. With my best wishes................Amar Puri. >"ravikris" <ravikris >valist >valist >request for analysis >Wed, 01 Sep 2004 01:40:22 -0000 > > >Could i request any expert or amateur to analyse the following data: >Date of Birth Jan 09th 1962 >Time of Birth 13.30 hrs Indian Standard Time >Place of Birth Thanjavur, Tamil Nadu > >This person seems to be interested in spritual and would like take up >Sanyasa. This person seems to be much frustrated and disappointed in >life. >Could any one please analyse the above data and advise. > >Thanks in advance for your analysis and help. Links > > > > > > > _______________ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://\ hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 Hello dear Manohara Nagaraja, Hare Krishna. I read you post and wonder how did you arrive at Aries Ascendnat for the data given below. I got Libra Ascendant and posted my view on the board. It looks like a mistake. Please advise. With my best wishes..........Amar Puri. >"Manohara Nagaraja" <manohara.nagaraja >valist >valist >Re: request for analysis >1 Sep 2004 14:58:02 -0000 > > Hi, >--- >DISCLAIMER: I AM A NOVICE AT INTERPRETATIONS AND ANY OF THE INDICATIONS >MENTIONED ABOVE SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS CORRECT UNLESS AN EXPERT AGREES WITH >IT. >--- >The native has an Aries Asc. and KE, JU, ME and SA in his 10th. SU,VE and >MA are in the 9th and MO in the 11th. > >10th house is very tricky. JU is neecha, conjoint with malefics (SA & KE), >Conjoint with ME lord of 3rd and 6th. I think the key to interpretation >here is the position of Ketu. >KE in 10, in CAP will cause him to be "unattached" and "not belong" to >society at large. While the influence of JU will give this a religious >bent, SA, in own house, in CAP will be a greater influence and will >generally push the person in taking a higher ground. This will make the >"unattachedness" or "not belonging-ness" to manifest itself as >"i-am-more-righteous-than-thou" (due to the combined influence of SA and >JU) attitude which will further put the native not mix with the society at >large. The influence of ME will probably make him vocal about these >aspects. > >MO in the 11th, in AQ, unaspected, will cause mental agony. Could manifest >in multiple ways, but primarily, the native will have something to worry >about most of the time. >From Chandra-lagna, for a peaceful life, you need strong kendras and an >empty 12th. Here it is just the opposite, all the kendras are empty and >the 12th has KE, JU, SA and ME. > >This clearly explains the frustration and disappointment. > >Now, is "sanyasa" indicated in the horoscope? My interpretation is NO. > >"Sanyasa" generally needs a non-afflicted KE and a benefic JU. Both these >are missing in this chart. Also, VE conjoint MA in the 9th. will make the >native very passionate. This will also work counter productively for a >successful "Sanyasa". > >As mentioned up-front, I am not an expert. The reason for this mail is to >have a healthy debate and better understand horoscope interpretations. I >welcome any debate on any of the aspects mentioned above. >-- >DISCLAIMER: I AM A NOVICE AT INTERPRETATIONS AND ANY OF THE INDICATIONS >MENTIONED ABOVE SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS CORRECT UNLESS AN EXPERT AGREES WITH >IT. >---- > >On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 ravikris wrote : > > > >Could i request any expert or amateur to analyse the following data: > >Date of Birth Jan 09th 1962 > >Time of Birth 13.30 hrs Indian Standard Time > >Place of Birth Thanjavur, Tamil Nadu > > > >This person seems to be interested in spritual and would like take up > >Sanyasa. This person seems to be much frustrated and disappointed in > >life. > >Could any one please analyse the above data and advise. > > > >Thanks in advance for your analysis and help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > _______________ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://\ hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Dear Aman, For a birth in january, during the day, the ascendant has to be between SAG and Cancer (for locations in India). I do not know how you cast the horoscope. My guess is that you must have taken the birth date as 09 jun instead of 09 jan. I have seen quite a few people (including me) make this mistake when using a software to cast rasi charts. Please try again with 09 jan 1962. Regards On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 fas fas wrote : > >Hello dear Manohara Nagaraja, > >Hare Krishna. I read you post and wonder how did you arrive at Aries >Ascendnat for the data given below. I got Libra Ascendant and posted my >view on the board. It looks like a mistake. Please advise. > >With my best wishes..........Amar Puri. > > > > > >"Manohara Nagaraja" <manohara.nagaraja > >valist > >valist > >Re: request for analysis > >1 Sep 2004 14:58:02 -0000 > > > > Hi, > >--- > >DISCLAIMER: I AM A NOVICE AT INTERPRETATIONS AND ANY OF THE INDICATIONS > >MENTIONED ABOVE SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS CORRECT UNLESS AN EXPERT AGREES WITH > >IT. > >--- > >The native has an Aries Asc. and KE, JU, ME and SA in his 10th. SU,VE and > >MA are in the 9th and MO in the 11th. > > > >10th house is very tricky. JU is neecha, conjoint with malefics (SA & KE), > >Conjoint with ME lord of 3rd and 6th. I think the key to interpretation > >here is the position of Ketu. > >KE in 10, in CAP will cause him to be "unattached" and "not belong" to > >society at large. While the influence of JU will give this a religious > >bent, SA, in own house, in CAP will be a greater influence and will > >generally push the person in taking a higher ground. This will make the > >"unattachedness" or "not belonging-ness" to manifest itself as > >"i-am-more-righteous-than-thou" (due to the combined influence of SA and > >JU) attitude which will further put the native not mix with the society at > >large. The influence of ME will probably make him vocal about these > >aspects. > > > >MO in the 11th, in AQ, unaspected, will cause mental agony. Could manifest > >in multiple ways, but primarily, the native will have something to worry > >about most of the time. > >From Chandra-lagna, for a peaceful life, you need strong kendras and an > >empty 12th. Here it is just the opposite, all the kendras are empty and > >the 12th has KE, JU, SA and ME. > > > >This clearly explains the frustration and disappointment. > > > >Now, is "sanyasa" indicated in the horoscope? My interpretation is NO. > > > >"Sanyasa" generally needs a non-afflicted KE and a benefic JU. Both these > >are missing in this chart. Also, VE conjoint MA in the 9th. will make the > >native very passionate. This will also work counter productively for a > >successful "Sanyasa". > > > >As mentioned up-front, I am not an expert. The reason for this mail is to > >have a healthy debate and better understand horoscope interpretations. I > >welcome any debate on any of the aspects mentioned above. > >-- > >DISCLAIMER: I AM A NOVICE AT INTERPRETATIONS AND ANY OF THE INDICATIONS > >MENTIONED ABOVE SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS CORRECT UNLESS AN EXPERT AGREES WITH > >IT. > >---- > > > >On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 ravikris wrote : > > > > > >Could i request any expert or amateur to analyse the following data: > > >Date of Birth Jan 09th 1962 > > >Time of Birth 13.30 hrs Indian Standard Time > > >Place of Birth Thanjavur, Tamil Nadu > > > > > >This person seems to be interested in spritual and would like take up > > >Sanyasa. This person seems to be much frustrated and disappointed in > > >life. > > >Could any one please analyse the above data and advise. > > > > > >Thanks in advance for your analysis and help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ >Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has >to offer. >http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http:/\ /hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the >first two months FREE*. > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Yes, it looks like I made a mistake in the date. I shall revert further separately. Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience. Hari bol.............Amar Puri. >"Manohara Nagaraja" <manohara.nagaraja >valist >valist >Re: Re: request for analysis >2 Sep 2004 14:19:49 -0000 > > >Dear Aman, > >For a birth in january, during the day, the ascendant has to be between SAG >and Cancer (for locations in India). I do not know how you cast the >horoscope. My guess is that you must have taken the birth date as 09 jun >instead of 09 jan. I have seen quite a few people (including me) make this >mistake when using a software to cast rasi charts. Please try again with >09 jan 1962. > >Regards > >On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 fas fas wrote : > > > >Hello dear Manohara Nagaraja, > > > >Hare Krishna. I read you post and wonder how did you arrive at Aries > >Ascendnat for the data given below. I got Libra Ascendant and posted my > >view on the board. It looks like a mistake. Please advise. > > > >With my best wishes..........Amar Puri. > > > > > > > > > > >"Manohara Nagaraja" <manohara.nagaraja > > >valist > > >valist > > >Re: request for analysis > > >1 Sep 2004 14:58:02 -0000 > > > > > > Hi, > > >--- > > >DISCLAIMER: I AM A NOVICE AT INTERPRETATIONS AND ANY OF THE INDICATIONS > > >MENTIONED ABOVE SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS CORRECT UNLESS AN EXPERT AGREES >WITH > > >IT. > > >--- > > >The native has an Aries Asc. and KE, JU, ME and SA in his 10th. SU,VE >and > > >MA are in the 9th and MO in the 11th. > > > > > >10th house is very tricky. JU is neecha, conjoint with malefics (SA & >KE), > > >Conjoint with ME lord of 3rd and 6th. I think the key to >interpretation > > >here is the position of Ketu. > > >KE in 10, in CAP will cause him to be "unattached" and "not belong" to > > >society at large. While the influence of JU will give this a religious > > >bent, SA, in own house, in CAP will be a greater influence and will > > >generally push the person in taking a higher ground. This will make >the > > >"unattachedness" or "not belonging-ness" to manifest itself as > > >"i-am-more-righteous-than-thou" (due to the combined influence of SA >and > > >JU) attitude which will further put the native not mix with the society >at > > >large. The influence of ME will probably make him vocal about these > > >aspects. > > > > > >MO in the 11th, in AQ, unaspected, will cause mental agony. Could >manifest > > >in multiple ways, but primarily, the native will have something to >worry > > >about most of the time. > > >From Chandra-lagna, for a peaceful life, you need strong kendras and an > > >empty 12th. Here it is just the opposite, all the kendras are empty >and > > >the 12th has KE, JU, SA and ME. > > > > > >This clearly explains the frustration and disappointment. > > > > > >Now, is "sanyasa" indicated in the horoscope? My interpretation is NO. > > > > > >"Sanyasa" generally needs a non-afflicted KE and a benefic JU. Both >these > > >are missing in this chart. Also, VE conjoint MA in the 9th. will make >the > > >native very passionate. This will also work counter productively for a > > >successful "Sanyasa". > > > > > >As mentioned up-front, I am not an expert. The reason for this mail is >to > > >have a healthy debate and better understand horoscope interpretations. >I > > >welcome any debate on any of the aspects mentioned above. > > >-- > > >DISCLAIMER: I AM A NOVICE AT INTERPRETATIONS AND ANY OF THE INDICATIONS > > >MENTIONED ABOVE SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS CORRECT UNLESS AN EXPERT AGREES >WITH > > >IT. > > >---- > > > > > >On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 ravikris wrote : > > > > > > > >Could i request any expert or amateur to analyse the following data: > > > >Date of Birth Jan 09th 1962 > > > >Time of Birth 13.30 hrs Indian Standard Time > > > >Place of Birth Thanjavur, Tamil Nadu > > > > > > > >This person seems to be interested in spritual and would like take up > > > >Sanyasa. This person seems to be much frustrated and disappointed in > > > >life. > > > >Could any one please analyse the above data and advise. > > > > > > > >Thanks in advance for your analysis and help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > >Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet >has > >to offer. > >http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http:/\ /hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the > >first two months FREE*. > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > _______________ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://\ hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. 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Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Hello Ravikris, Hare Krishna. It appears that I made a mistake in the date. Please disregard my following reading as I shall give my new reading according to the proper date. Sorry for the inconvenience. With my best wishes...............Amar Puri. >"fas fas" <foreignersassistance >valist >valist >RE: request for analysis >Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:05:37 +0000 > >Hello Ravikris, > >Hare Krishna. As per the data provided below, the sign Libra is rising in >the Ascendnat. The 12th lord malefic Mercury significator of bed pleasure >conjuncts very closely the 5th lord Saturn combusted significator of >Romance >in 4h of Saturn controlling emotion of all types in association with the >Guru debilitated (obstruction in spiritual life) at R/K axis with the >afflicted 10th lord Moon (emotionally disturbed) are the reasons of his >present feelings of frustration which are not suitable for Sanyasa due to >the above planetary combination besides the Mars (Lord of Spouse) >conjuncting the Lagna Lord Venus weakened due to its dispositor which >further indicates material attraction (involvements) and obstacle in >spiritual life. > >At present, the native is running weak main period of Saturn in the sub >period of malefic Mercury which brings about feeling of frustration. > >My strong suggestion to the native is to begin reading Bhagavat Gita As It >Is by HDG .A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabupad and chant the Maha >Mantra, >"Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram >Ram Hare Hare" as much as possible at any time and place in order to make >his life sublime. > >Hari Bol. OM TAT SAT. > >With my best wishes................Amar Puri. > > > > >"ravikris" <ravikris > >valist > >valist > >request for analysis > >Wed, 01 Sep 2004 01:40:22 -0000 > > > > > >Could i request any expert or amateur to analyse the following data: > >Date of Birth Jan 09th 1962 > >Time of Birth 13.30 hrs Indian Standard Time > >Place of Birth Thanjavur, Tamil Nadu > > > >This person seems to be interested in spritual and would like take up > >Sanyasa. This person seems to be much frustrated and disappointed in > >life. > >Could any one please analyse the above data and advise. > > > >Thanks in advance for your analysis and help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ >Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft® >SmartScreen Technology. >http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http:/\ /hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the >first two months FREE*. > > > > > > Links > > > > > _______________ Designer Mail isn't just fun to send, it's fun to receive. Use special stationery, fonts and colors. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://\ hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Hello Ravikris, Hare Krishna. According to the Aries Lagna as per the details, functional malefic Planet Mercury, a significagtor of analytical power (Lord of the family, confusion and difference of opinion) which becomes debilited in Navamsa very closely conjuncts Saturn at R/K axis besides the association of debilited Jupiter (karka of spiritual knowledge) at the mid point of 10h. The Lord of the 4h of family as well as emotions of all types occupies the 11h of income and gain which is weakened by its dispositor afflicted Saturn which devoids the native from the material gain. The Moon is further debilited in Navamsa which causes frustration due to its weakness in strength as well. The 5th Lord Sun (Significator of spiritual knowledge and soul), the 7th Lord Venus (karka of Spous, Partnership, foreign connections) and the Lord of Ascendent Mars are conjuncting in 9h whose dispositor is debilited occupying 10h which indicate involvement in mundane activities and further devoid from spiritual satisfaction, thus, creating confusion and frustration in material and spiritual life. My strong suggestion to the native is to begin reading Bhagavat Gita As It Is by HDG .A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabupad and chant the Maha Mantra, "Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare" as much as possible at any time and place in order to make his life sublime. By the grace of the Lord, the native may meet a bonafide spiritual master who can truly lead and guide him towards his spiritual jouney. Otherwise, he will become bewilder, if he takes Sanyasa and wander around in the state of confusion and frustration to search the Absolute Truth. Hari Bol. OM TAT SAT. With my best wishes................Amar Puri. >"fas fas" <foreignersassistance >valist >valist >RE: request for analysis >Thu, 02 Sep 2004 15:37:40 +0000 > > >Hello Ravikris, > >Hare Krishna. It appears that I made a mistake in the date. Please >disregard my following reading as I shall give my new reading according to >the proper date. > >Sorry for the inconvenience. > >With my best wishes...............Amar Puri. > > > >"fas fas" <foreignersassistance > >valist > >valist > >RE: request for analysis > >Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:05:37 +0000 > > > >Hello Ravikris, > > > >Hare Krishna. As per the data provided below, the sign Libra is rising >in > >the Ascendnat. The 12th lord malefic Mercury significator of bed >pleasure > >conjuncts very closely the 5th lord Saturn combusted significator of > >Romance > >in 4h of Saturn controlling emotion of all types in association with the > >Guru debilitated (obstruction in spiritual life) at R/K axis with the > >afflicted 10th lord Moon (emotionally disturbed) are the reasons of his > >present feelings of frustration which are not suitable for Sanyasa due >to > >the above planetary combination besides the Mars (Lord of Spouse) > >conjuncting the Lagna Lord Venus weakened due to its dispositor which > >further indicates material attraction (involvements) and obstacle in > >spiritual life. > > > >At present, the native is running weak main period of Saturn in the sub > >period of malefic Mercury which brings about feeling of frustration. > > > >My strong suggestion to the native is to begin reading Bhagavat Gita As >It > >Is by HDG .A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabupad and chant the Maha > >Mantra, > >"Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Ram Hare Ram >Ram > >Ram Hare Hare" as much as possible at any time and place in order to make > >his life sublime. > > > >Hari Bol. OM TAT SAT. > > > >With my best wishes................Amar Puri. > > > > > > > > >"ravikris" <ravikris > > >valist > > >valist > > >request for analysis > > >Wed, 01 Sep 2004 01:40:22 -0000 > > > > > > > > >Could i request any expert or amateur to analyse the following data: > > >Date of Birth Jan 09th 1962 > > >Time of Birth 13.30 hrs Indian Standard Time > > >Place of Birth Thanjavur, Tamil Nadu > > > > > >This person seems to be interested in spritual and would like take up > > >Sanyasa. This person seems to be much frustrated and disappointed in > > >life. > > >Could any one please analyse the above data and advise. > > > > > >Thanks in advance for your analysis and help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > >Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented >Microsoft® > >SmartScreen Technology. > >http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http:/\ /hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the > >first two months FREE*. > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ >Designer Mail isn't just fun to send, it's fun to receive. 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Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Dear Mr. Amar Puri Please read the following message about this person and post your opinion.. The native of this chart has Sasa Yoga, the rare Mahapurusha Yoga, when saturn is in own house (or exaltation) and in a quadrant from Lagna (or moon). The greatness of such people are not evident in the mundane plane, but is found in the mental and psychic planes. Sasha Yoga can occur only to a group of exceptional people. Under the impact of Saturn, the spiritualizing planet, the native will be a philosopher, knowing and feeling the futility of material existence. He will experience the dejection of the burial ground and sannyasa. Saturn in the 10th will break the shell of human pettiness and the individual surrenders to the supreme. Since Saturn is in the 10th, the native's feelings and emotions will become dry and barren (saturn aspecting 4th house) and the pleasures of material life gone (saturn aspecting 7th house) and sexual pleasure denied (saturn aspecting 12th house). The native will prefer to wander around from place to place, in tune with the divine. regards valist, "fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...> wrote: > Hello Ravikris, > > Hare Krishna. According to the Aries Lagna as per the details, functional > malefic Planet Mercury, a significagtor of analytical power (Lord of the > family, confusion and difference of opinion) which becomes debilited in > Navamsa very closely conjuncts Saturn at R/K axis besides the association of > debilited Jupiter (karka of spiritual knowledge) at the mid point of 10h. > The Lord of the 4h of family as well as emotions of all types occupies the > 11h of income and gain which is weakened by its dispositor afflicted Saturn > which devoids the native from the material gain. The Moon is further > debilited in Navamsa which causes frustration due to its weakness in > strength as well. > > The 5th Lord Sun (Significator of spiritual knowledge and soul), the 7th > Lord Venus (karka of Spous, Partnership, foreign connections) and the Lord > of Ascendent Mars are conjuncting in 9h whose dispositor is debilited > occupying 10h which indicate involvement in mundane activities and further > devoid from spiritual satisfaction, thus, creating confusion and frustration > in material and spiritual life. > > My strong suggestion to the native is to begin reading Bhagavat Gita As It > Is by HDG .A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabupad and chant the Maha Mantra, > "Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Rama Hare Rama > Rama Rama Hare Hare" as much as possible at any time and place in order to > make his life sublime. > > By the grace of the Lord, the native may meet a bonafide spiritual master > who can truly lead and guide him towards his spiritual jouney. Otherwise, > he will become bewilder, if he takes Sanyasa and wander around in the state > of confusion and frustration to search the Absolute Truth. > > Hari Bol. OM TAT SAT. > > With my best wishes................Amar Puri. > > > > > >"fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...> > >valist > >valist > >RE: request for analysis > >Thu, 02 Sep 2004 15:37:40 +0000 > > > > > >Hello Ravikris, > > > >Hare Krishna. It appears that I made a mistake in the date. Please > >disregard my following reading as I shall give my new reading according to > >the proper date. > > > >Sorry for the inconvenience. > > > >With my best wishes...............Amar Puri. > > > > > > >"fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...> > > >valist > > >valist > > >RE: request for analysis > > >Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:05:37 +0000 > > > > > >Hello Ravikris, > > > > > >Hare Krishna. As per the data provided below, the sign Libra is rising > >in > > >the Ascendnat. The 12th lord malefic Mercury significator of bed > >pleasure > > >conjuncts very closely the 5th lord Saturn combusted significator of > > >Romance > > >in 4h of Saturn controlling emotion of all types in association with the > > >Guru debilitated (obstruction in spiritual life) at R/K axis with the > > >afflicted 10th lord Moon (emotionally disturbed) are the reasons of his > > >present feelings of frustration which are not suitable for Sanyasa due > >to > > >the above planetary combination besides the Mars (Lord of Spouse) > > >conjuncting the Lagna Lord Venus weakened due to its dispositor which > > >further indicates material attraction (involvements) and obstacle in > > >spiritual life. > > > > > >At present, the native is running weak main period of Saturn in the sub > > >period of malefic Mercury which brings about feeling of frustration. > > > > > >My strong suggestion to the native is to begin reading Bhagavat Gita As > >It > > >Is by HDG .A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabupad and chant the Maha > > >Mantra, > > >"Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Ram Hare Ram > >Ram > > >Ram Hare Hare" as much as possible at any time and place in order to make > > >his life sublime. > > > > > >Hari Bol. OM TAT SAT. > > > > > >With my best wishes................Amar Puri. > > > > > > > > > > > > >"ravikris" <ravikris> > > > >valist > > > >valist > > > >request for analysis > > > >Wed, 01 Sep 2004 01:40:22 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > >Could i request any expert or amateur to analyse the following data: > > > >Date of Birth Jan 09th 1962 > > > >Time of Birth 13.30 hrs Indian Standard Time > > > >Place of Birth Thanjavur, Tamil Nadu > > > > > > > >This person seems to be interested in spritual and would like take up > > > >Sanyasa. This person seems to be much frustrated and disappointed in > > > >life. > > > >Could any one please analyse the above data and advise. > > > > > > > >Thanks in advance for your analysis and help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >: valist- > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > > >Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented > >Microsoft® > > >SmartScreen Technology. > > >http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en- ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Mar ket_MSNIS_Taglines > > > Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the > > >first two months FREE*. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > >Designer Mail isn't just fun to send, it's fun to receive. 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Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Dear Member Please read the following message about this person and post your opnion. The native of this chart has Sasa Yoga, the rare Mahapurusha Yoga, when saturn is in own house (or exaltation) and in a quadrant from Lagna (or moon). The greatness of such people are not evident in the mundane plane, but is found in the mental and psychic planes. Sasha Yoga can occur only to a group of exceptional people. Under the impact of Saturn, the spiritualizing planet, the native will be a philosopher, knowing and feeling the futility of material existence. He will experience the dejection of the burial ground and sannyasa. Saturn in the 10th will break the shell of human pettiness and the individual surrenders to the supreme. Since Saturn is in the 10th, the native's feelings and emotions will become dry and barren (saturn aspecting 4th house) and the pleasures of material life gone (saturn aspecting 7th house) and sexual pleasure denied (saturn aspecting 12th house). The native will prefer to wander around from place to place, in tune with the divine. regards valist, "Manohara Nagaraja" <manohara.nagaraja@r...> wrote: > Hi, > -- - > DISCLAIMER: I AM A NOVICE AT INTERPRETATIONS AND ANY OF THE INDICATIONS MENTIONED ABOVE SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS CORRECT UNLESS AN EXPERT AGREES WITH IT. > -- - > The native has an Aries Asc. and KE, JU, ME and SA in his 10th. SU,VE and MA are in the 9th and MO in the 11th. > > 10th house is very tricky. JU is neecha, conjoint with malefics (SA & KE), Conjoint with ME lord of 3rd and 6th. I think the key to interpretation here is the position of Ketu. > KE in 10, in CAP will cause him to be "unattached" and "not belong" to society at large. While the influence of JU will give this a religious bent, SA, in own house, in CAP will be a greater influence and will generally push the person in taking a higher ground. This will make the "unattachedness" or "not belonging-ness" to manifest itself as "i-am-more-righteous-than-thou" (due to the combined influence of SA and JU) attitude which will further put the native not mix with the society at large. The influence of ME will probably make him vocal about these aspects. > > MO in the 11th, in AQ, unaspected, will cause mental agony. Could manifest in multiple ways, but primarily, the native will have something to worry about most of the time. > From Chandra-lagna, for a peaceful life, you need strong kendras and an empty 12th. Here it is just the opposite, all the kendras are empty and the 12th has KE, JU, SA and ME. > > This clearly explains the frustration and disappointment. > > Now, is "sanyasa" indicated in the horoscope? My interpretation is NO. > > "Sanyasa" generally needs a non-afflicted KE and a benefic JU. Both these are missing in this chart. Also, VE conjoint MA in the 9th. will make the native very passionate. This will also work counter productively for a successful "Sanyasa". > > As mentioned up-front, I am not an expert. The reason for this mail is to have a healthy debate and better understand horoscope interpretations. I welcome any debate on any of the aspects mentioned above. > -- > DISCLAIMER: I AM A NOVICE AT INTERPRETATIONS AND ANY OF THE INDICATIONS MENTIONED ABOVE SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS CORRECT UNLESS AN EXPERT AGREES WITH IT. > -- -- > > On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 ravikris wrote : > > > >Could i request any expert or amateur to analyse the following data: > >Date of Birth Jan 09th 1962 > >Time of Birth 13.30 hrs Indian Standard Time > >Place of Birth Thanjavur, Tamil Nadu > > > >This person seems to be interested in spritual and would like take up > >Sanyasa. This person seems to be much frustrated and disappointed in > >life. > >Could any one please analyse the above data and advise. > > > >Thanks in advance for your analysis and help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Dear Ravikris, A lot of yogas exist in most of the charts that I have seen. However, the fructification of the yogas, and the extent of its manifestation is what is very important while interpreting a chart. That is why in my mail I wrote that "the 10th house is very tricky". Between the 9th and 10th house, there are a lot of yogas - Dharmakarmadhipati (of a very strong kind - 9th and 10th lords in 10th) Bhagyavahana, pancha-maha purusha, etc... While each one of these is individually a great thing to have, their fructification is not guaranteed. I still think that the afflications to all combinations existing in the 9th and 10th houses of this chart are high and most of these yogas will not manifest fully. Regards, On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 ravikris wrote : >Dear Member >Please read the following message about this person and post your >opnion. >The native of this chart has Sasa Yoga, the rare Mahapurusha Yoga, >when saturn is in own house (or exaltation) and in a quadrant from >Lagna (or moon). The greatness of such people are not evident in the >mundane plane, but is found in the mental and psychic planes. Sasha >Yoga can occur only to a group of exceptional people. > >Under the impact of Saturn, the spiritualizing planet, the native will >be a philosopher, knowing and feeling the futility of material >existence. He will experience the dejection of the burial ground and >sannyasa. Saturn in the 10th will break the shell of human pettiness >and the individual surrenders to the supreme. > >Since Saturn is in the 10th, the native's feelings and emotions will >become dry and barren (saturn aspecting 4th house) and the pleasures >of material life gone (saturn aspecting 7th house) and sexual pleasure >denied (saturn aspecting 12th house). The native will prefer to wander >around from place to place, in tune with the divine. > >regards > > > >valist, "Manohara Nagaraja" ><manohara.nagaraja@r...> wrote: > > Hi, > > -- >- > > DISCLAIMER: I AM A NOVICE AT INTERPRETATIONS AND ANY OF THE >INDICATIONS MENTIONED ABOVE SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS CORRECT UNLESS AN >EXPERT AGREES WITH IT. > > -- >- > > The native has an Aries Asc. and KE, JU, ME and SA in his 10th. >SU,VE and MA are in the 9th and MO in the 11th. > > > > 10th house is very tricky. JU is neecha, conjoint with malefics >(SA & KE), Conjoint with ME lord of 3rd and 6th. I think the key to >interpretation here is the position of Ketu. > > KE in 10, in CAP will cause him to be "unattached" and "not belong" >to society at large. While the influence of JU will give this a >religious bent, SA, in own house, in CAP will be a greater influence >and will generally push the person in taking a higher ground. This >will make the "unattachedness" or "not belonging-ness" to manifest >itself as "i-am-more-righteous-than-thou" (due to the combined >influence of SA and JU) attitude which will further put the native >not mix with the society at large. The influence of ME will probably >make him vocal about these aspects. > > > > MO in the 11th, in AQ, unaspected, will cause mental agony. Could >manifest in multiple ways, but primarily, the native will have >something to worry about most of the time. > > From Chandra-lagna, for a peaceful life, you need strong kendras >and an empty 12th. Here it is just the opposite, all the kendras are >empty and the 12th has KE, JU, SA and ME. > > > > This clearly explains the frustration and disappointment. > > > > Now, is "sanyasa" indicated in the horoscope? My interpretation is >NO. > > > > "Sanyasa" generally needs a non-afflicted KE and a benefic JU. >Both these are missing in this chart. Also, VE conjoint MA in the >9th. will make the native very passionate. This will also work >counter productively for a successful "Sanyasa". > > > > As mentioned up-front, I am not an expert. The reason for this >mail is to have a healthy debate and better understand horoscope >interpretations. I welcome any debate on any of the aspects >mentioned above. > > -- > > DISCLAIMER: I AM A NOVICE AT INTERPRETATIONS AND ANY OF THE >INDICATIONS MENTIONED ABOVE SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS CORRECT UNLESS AN >EXPERT AGREES WITH IT. > > -- >-- > > > > On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 ravikris wrote : > > > > > >Could i request any expert or amateur to analyse the following >data: > > >Date of Birth Jan 09th 1962 > > >Time of Birth 13.30 hrs Indian Standard Time > > >Place of Birth Thanjavur, Tamil Nadu > > > > > >This person seems to be interested in spritual and would like take >up > > >Sanyasa. This person seems to be much frustrated and disappointed >in > > >life. > > >Could any one please analyse the above data and advise. > > > > > >Thanks in advance for your analysis and help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Hello dear Ravikris, Hare Krishna. As I mentioned in my post that the chart is afflicted, therefore, it becomes weak. This does not mean that the native can not practise Spiritual Life. NO. The native must maintain his balanced life while cultivating his spiritual activities in life. Please re-read my post and follow the advice there, if you so desire. Hari Bol. OM TAT SAT. With my best wishes....................Amar Puri. >"ravikris" <ravikris >valist >valist >Re: request for analysis >Fri, 03 Sep 2004 01:47:01 -0000 > >Dear Mr. Amar Puri >Please read the following message about this person and post your >opinion.. > >The native of this chart has Sasa Yoga, the rare Mahapurusha Yoga, >when saturn is in own house (or exaltation) and in a quadrant from >Lagna (or moon). The greatness of such people are not evident in the >mundane plane, but is found in the mental and psychic planes. Sasha >Yoga can occur only to a group of exceptional people. > >Under the impact of Saturn, the spiritualizing planet, the native will >be a philosopher, knowing and feeling the futility of material >existence. He will experience the dejection of the burial ground and >sannyasa. Saturn in the 10th will break the shell of human pettiness >and the individual surrenders to the supreme. > >Since Saturn is in the 10th, the native's feelings and emotions will >become dry and barren (saturn aspecting 4th house) and the pleasures >of material life gone (saturn aspecting 7th house) and sexual pleasure >denied (saturn aspecting 12th house). The native will prefer to wander >around from place to place, in tune with the divine. > >regards > > > >valist, "fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...> >wrote: > > Hello Ravikris, > > > > Hare Krishna. According to the Aries Lagna as per the details, >functional > > malefic Planet Mercury, a significagtor of analytical power (Lord >of the > > family, confusion and difference of opinion) which becomes >debilited in > > Navamsa very closely conjuncts Saturn at R/K axis besides the >association of > > debilited Jupiter (karka of spiritual knowledge) at the mid point >of 10h. > > The Lord of the 4h of family as well as emotions of all types >occupies the > > 11h of income and gain which is weakened by its dispositor >afflicted Saturn > > which devoids the native from the material gain. The Moon is >further > > debilited in Navamsa which causes frustration due to its weakness >in > > strength as well. > > > > The 5th Lord Sun (Significator of spiritual knowledge and soul), >the 7th > > Lord Venus (karka of Spous, Partnership, foreign connections) and >the Lord > > of Ascendent Mars are conjuncting in 9h whose dispositor is >debilited > > occupying 10h which indicate involvement in mundane activities and >further > > devoid from spiritual satisfaction, thus, creating confusion and >frustration > > in material and spiritual life. > > > > My strong suggestion to the native is to begin reading Bhagavat >Gita As It > > Is by HDG .A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabupad and chant the >Maha Mantra, > > "Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Rama >Hare Rama > > Rama Rama Hare Hare" as much as possible at any time and place in >order to > > make his life sublime. > > > > By the grace of the Lord, the native may meet a bonafide spiritual >master > > who can truly lead and guide him towards his spiritual jouney. >Otherwise, > > he will become bewilder, if he takes Sanyasa and wander around in >the state > > of confusion and frustration to search the Absolute Truth. > > > > Hari Bol. OM TAT SAT. > > > > With my best wishes................Amar Puri. > > > > > > > > > > >"fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...> > > >valist > > >valist > > >RE: request for analysis > > >Thu, 02 Sep 2004 15:37:40 +0000 > > > > > > > > >Hello Ravikris, > > > > > >Hare Krishna. It appears that I made a mistake in the date. >Please > > >disregard my following reading as I shall give my new reading >according to > > >the proper date. > > > > > >Sorry for the inconvenience. > > > > > >With my best wishes...............Amar Puri. > > > > > > > > > >"fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...> > > > >valist > > > >valist > > > >RE: request for analysis > > > >Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:05:37 +0000 > > > > > > > >Hello Ravikris, > > > > > > > >Hare Krishna. As per the data provided below, the sign Libra is >rising > > >in > > > >the Ascendnat. The 12th lord malefic Mercury significator of >bed > > >pleasure > > > >conjuncts very closely the 5th lord Saturn combusted >significator of > > > >Romance > > > >in 4h of Saturn controlling emotion of all types in association >with the > > > >Guru debilitated (obstruction in spiritual life) at R/K axis >with the > > > >afflicted 10th lord Moon (emotionally disturbed) are the reasons >of his > > > >present feelings of frustration which are not suitable for >Sanyasa due > > >to > > > >the above planetary combination besides the Mars (Lord of >Spouse) > > > >conjuncting the Lagna Lord Venus weakened due to its dispositor >which > > > >further indicates material attraction (involvements) and >obstacle in > > > >spiritual life. > > > > > > > >At present, the native is running weak main period of Saturn in >the sub > > > >period of malefic Mercury which brings about feeling of >frustration. > > > > > > > >My strong suggestion to the native is to begin reading Bhagavat >Gita As > > >It > > > >Is by HDG .A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabupad and chant the >Maha > > > >Mantra, > > > >"Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Ram >Hare Ram > > >Ram > > > >Ram Hare Hare" as much as possible at any time and place in >order to make > > > >his life sublime. > > > > > > > >Hari Bol. OM TAT SAT. > > > > > > > >With my best wishes................Amar Puri. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"ravikris" <ravikris> > > > > >valist > > > > >valist > > > > >request for analysis > > > > >Wed, 01 Sep 2004 01:40:22 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Could i request any expert or amateur to analyse the following >data: > > > > >Date of Birth Jan 09th 1962 > > > > >Time of Birth 13.30 hrs Indian Standard Time > > > > >Place of Birth Thanjavur, Tamil Nadu > > > > > > > > > >This person seems to be interested in spritual and would like >take up > > > > >Sanyasa. This person seems to be much frustrated and >disappointed in > > > > >life. > > > > >Could any one please analyse the above data and advise. > > > > > > > > > >Thanks in advance for your analysis and help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >: valist- > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > > > >Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented > > >Microsoft® > > > >SmartScreen Technology. > > > >http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en- >ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Mar >ket_MSNIS_Taglines > > > > Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and >get the > > > >first two months FREE*. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > > >Designer Mail isn't just fun to send, it's fun to receive. 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Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Dear Sir, Apart from the views of the other learned members who had already given their cosidered views may I also add pl. Presently Saturn dasa and venus bhukthi are in progress for the native and the dates are 24-5-2004 to 25-7-2007.(K.P.Ayanamsam)The 12th lord from the Moon siugn is with the 12th lord from the lagnam.Both od them are in the 12th from the Moon sign.It is swakshetram for Saturn.Jupiter is debilitated there. This feeling of taling to sanya would have sprung up between 15-4-2003 and 24-5-2004 which is the sub period of Ketu in Saturn dasa.ketu is a mendicant.being the karaka he is in the 12th bhavam.Sturn with Moon in Kumbha rasi causes aimless journeys or wanderings to different places. It is said in Nadis that the twekfth house from jupiter gives us incling about the past Janmas.Now Jupiter is the 12th lord from the place where he is situated.he is in conjunction with the dasa nadha saturn.So there are fair chances that this trait is the otcome of the past lives of the native and his hoard of samskaras. For instance as Sun is in the 12th house from Jupiter the natives father had some thing to do with the native in his past life also.The natives father is probably a Vishnu bhaktha who wears the holy insignia on his fore head ,called in common parlour as Namam or name of the Lord.The name of the father possibly has semblance with the name of of one of the Avatars of the Lord.during 1998/1999,the native might have taken to wanderings as then saturn during his transits touched the natal Moon. jupiter is a divine planet.So also ketu.Their combination is good for spiritual matters.12th lord in own sign too is quite good in this regard. mars is in the 11th house.if he has an elder coborn that native will get lot fo good, for instance durin the venus bhukthi. He will vist temples alosduring the Venusian period.?Jupiters debility is cancelled. As per yogini dasa the native runs his following dasa bhukthis. 9-1-1962+1yr9m=9-10-1963.Rahu dasa is over.+10yrs=9-10-1973,Mars dasa ..+24=9-10-1997.Rahu is over.+6=9-10-2003.jupiters dasa is over.So mars dasa is in progress now. Coming to bhukthis,....... 9-10-2003+5m=9-3-2004,Mars dasa and Mars bhukthi.+9m=9-12-2004.Mars dasa and Mercury bhukthi is going on.Mars is the ashtamadhipathy from lagnam and mercury is the ashtamadhipathy from Moon.Moreover Mercury is a malefic.he too is in the 12th house.? as per Tara dasa, Mithunam is the Tara lagnam.9-1-1962+9=9-1-1971,Mithuna dasa is over.+9=9-1-1980,kataka dasa is gone.+9=1989, simhadasa is over+9=1998, Kanya dasa is over.Now Thula dasa is in progress. Bukthis are, Ak is in Dhanus.So the sub periods have to taken in the clockwise direction.9-1-1998+9m=9-10-1998,+9m=9-7-1999,+9m=9-4-2000,+9=9-1-2001,+9m=9=10=2\ 001,+9m=9-7-2002,+9m=9-4-2003,=9m=9-1-2004,+9m=9-10-2004. 9-4-2000 to 9-1-2001 was the period of Makhara bhukthi in the kanya adasa.this would have been a particular period .the native would have had some of the good and benificial results also. I think that some Pariharas have to be performed . I think that my analysis may be helpful for further analysis of the chart. Regards, Jagannathan. Manohara Nagaraja <manohara.nagaraja wrote: Dear Ravikris, A lot of yogas exist in most of the charts that I have seen. However, the fructification of the yogas, and the extent of its manifestation is what is very important while interpreting a chart. That is why in my mail I wrote that "the 10th house is very tricky". Between the 9th and 10th house, there are a lot of yogas - Dharmakarmadhipati (of a very strong kind - 9th and 10th lords in 10th) Bhagyavahana, pancha-maha purusha, etc... While each one of these is individually a great thing to have, their fructification is not guaranteed. I still think that the afflications to all combinations existing in the 9th and 10th houses of this chart are high and most of these yogas will not manifest fully. Regards, On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 ravikris wrote : >Dear Member >Please read the following message about this person and post your >opnion. >The native of this chart has Sasa Yoga, the rare Mahapurusha Yoga, >when saturn is in own house (or exaltation) and in a quadrant from >Lagna (or moon). The greatness of such people are not evident in the >mundane plane, but is found in the mental and psychic planes. Sasha >Yoga can occur only to a group of exceptional people. > >Under the impact of Saturn, the spiritualizing planet, the native will >be a philosopher, knowing and feeling the futility of material >existence. He will experience the dejection of the burial ground and >sannyasa. Saturn in the 10th will break the shell of human pettiness >and the individual surrenders to the supreme. > >Since Saturn is in the 10th, the native's feelings and emotions will >become dry and barren (saturn aspecting 4th house) and the pleasures >of material life gone (saturn aspecting 7th house) and sexual pleasure >denied (saturn aspecting 12th house). The native will prefer to wander >around from place to place, in tune with the divine. > >regards > > > >valist, "Manohara Nagaraja" > wrote: > > Hi, > > -- >- > > DISCLAIMER: I AM A NOVICE AT INTERPRETATIONS AND ANY OF THE >INDICATIONS MENTIONED ABOVE SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS CORRECT UNLESS AN >EXPERT AGREES WITH IT. > > -- >- > > The native has an Aries Asc. and KE, JU, ME and SA in his 10th. >SU,VE and MA are in the 9th and MO in the 11th. > > > > 10th house is very tricky. JU is neecha, conjoint with malefics >(SA & KE), Conjoint with ME lord of 3rd and 6th. I think the key to >interpretation here is the position of Ketu. > > KE in 10, in CAP will cause him to be "unattached" and "not belong" >to society at large. While the influence of JU will give this a >religious bent, SA, in own house, in CAP will be a greater influence >and will generally push the person in taking a higher ground. This >will make the "unattachedness" or "not belonging-ness" to manifest >itself as "i-am-more-righteous-than-thou" (due to the combined >influence of SA and JU) attitude which will further put the native >not mix with the society at large. The influence of ME will probably >make him vocal about these aspects. > > > > MO in the 11th, in AQ, unaspected, will cause mental agony. Could >manifest in multiple ways, but primarily, the native will have >something to worry about most of the time. > > From Chandra-lagna, for a peaceful life, you need strong kendras >and an empty 12th. Here it is just the opposite, all the kendras are >empty and the 12th has KE, JU, SA and ME. > > > > This clearly explains the frustration and disappointment. > > > > Now, is "sanyasa" indicated in the horoscope? My interpretation is >NO. > > > > "Sanyasa" generally needs a non-afflicted KE and a benefic JU. >Both these are missing in this chart. Also, VE conjoint MA in the >9th. will make the native very passionate. This will also work >counter productively for a successful "Sanyasa". > > > > As mentioned up-front, I am not an expert. The reason for this >mail is to have a healthy debate and better understand horoscope >interpretations. I welcome any debate on any of the aspects >mentioned above. > > -- > > DISCLAIMER: I AM A NOVICE AT INTERPRETATIONS AND ANY OF THE >INDICATIONS MENTIONED ABOVE SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS CORRECT UNLESS AN >EXPERT AGREES WITH IT. > > -- >-- > > > > On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 ravikris wrote : > > > > > >Could i request any expert or amateur to analyse the following >data: > > >Date of Birth Jan 09th 1962 > > >Time of Birth 13.30 hrs Indian Standard Time > > >Place of Birth Thanjavur, Tamil Nadu > > > > > >This person seems to be interested in spritual and would like take >up > > >Sanyasa. This person seems to be much frustrated and disappointed >in > > >life. > > >Could any one please analyse the above data and advise. > > > > > >Thanks in advance for your analysis and help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > Jagannathan . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Ravikris, This chart is really interesting one and before commiting on chart I'll like to give ref of famous ChatushGrahi Yoga present in 10th H (Kendra) and with debilated Jup there it's fruit is distressed ascetic. (Some people will not consider Ket as planet and may differ) Now if we start from Lagna and lagnesh , Lagna is with A5 showing Upasanam will become concern and Lagnesh is in 9th showing his interests towards spirituality. Mars dispositor is Jup and is in 10th, forming Chtushgrahi Yoga, Dharma Karmadhipati yoga along with Ketu the spiritual planet and Sat+mer also. Now Jup , Jeev Karka is in Ishwara Sign Cap and Karma Karka Sat (10th L also) with him showing some noble deeeds native will perform and Mer is planet of intellect is joining them along with moksha karka Ketu. This shows moksha karka karma leading to Gyan yoga. Lagna Star L is Ven and in 9th again in Own Star, this shows on mental level also native is spiritual concerned one. Lagnesh is also in Ven star. So same indications are there. Moon in Dhanishta 4 shows turning towards spiritualism suddenly due to friends or elder Brothers. All this is indicating Ascetic featurs of native and now if we go to little deep level for Navamamsa then Lagnesh is in mer amsa and mer is again in 10th and it's dispositor is Sat again in 10th. So these forces will rises due to hindrances, conflicts (6th amsa) regarding 10th House. Now if we go deep , we found Ketu in 8th amsa and creates a yogi , saluted by people. Like way there are some other yogas also and all concluding I think native may become ascetic but as Jup is neecha , distessed one!! I think around 2001 native is start moving on this path. Native might have travelled alot and may knows some secret things from some shastras and practising yoga regularly and may be a poet also and within last two years native may have faced some problems regarding 2nd House and 5th H. I think native is learned man with technical qualification and may be a bussinessman and initially may have earn good name and status but due to single mistake his career may have start declining and mostly from change of residance last time(around 2000-2001). Who is his father? Whether he's knowing any shastras? Pls do reply on my readings whether it's successful or futile. Waiting for Reply Regards Vinay Patwardhan valist, "ravikris" <ravikris> wrote: > Dear Member > Please read the following message about this person and post your > opnion. > The native of this chart has Sasa Yoga, the rare Mahapurusha Yoga, > when saturn is in own house (or exaltation) and in a quadrant from > Lagna (or moon). The greatness of such people are not evident in the > mundane plane, but is found in the mental and psychic planes. Sasha > Yoga can occur only to a group of exceptional people. > > Under the impact of Saturn, the spiritualizing planet, the native will > be a philosopher, knowing and feeling the futility of material > existence. He will experience the dejection of the burial ground and > sannyasa. Saturn in the 10th will break the shell of human pettiness > and the individual surrenders to the supreme. > > Since Saturn is in the 10th, the native's feelings and emotions will > become dry and barren (saturn aspecting 4th house) and the pleasures > of material life gone (saturn aspecting 7th house) and sexual pleasure > denied (saturn aspecting 12th house). The native will prefer to wander > around from place to place, in tune with the divine. > > regards > > > > valist, "Manohara Nagaraja" > <manohara.nagaraja@r...> wrote: > > Hi, > > -- > - > > DISCLAIMER: I AM A NOVICE AT INTERPRETATIONS AND ANY OF THE > INDICATIONS MENTIONED ABOVE SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS CORRECT UNLESS AN > EXPERT AGREES WITH IT. > > -- > - > > The native has an Aries Asc. and KE, JU, ME and SA in his 10th. > SU,VE and MA are in the 9th and MO in the 11th. > > > > 10th house is very tricky. JU is neecha, conjoint with malefics > (SA & KE), Conjoint with ME lord of 3rd and 6th. I think the key to > interpretation here is the position of Ketu. > > KE in 10, in CAP will cause him to be "unattached" and "not belong" > to society at large. While the influence of JU will give this a > religious bent, SA, in own house, in CAP will be a greater influence > and will generally push the person in taking a higher ground. This > will make the "unattachedness" or "not belonging-ness" to manifest > itself as "i-am-more-righteous-than-thou" (due to the combined > influence of SA and JU) attitude which will further put the native > not mix with the society at large. The influence of ME will probably > make him vocal about these aspects. > > > > MO in the 11th, in AQ, unaspected, will cause mental agony. Could > manifest in multiple ways, but primarily, the native will have > something to worry about most of the time. > > From Chandra-lagna, for a peaceful life, you need strong kendras > and an empty 12th. Here it is just the opposite, all the kendras are > empty and the 12th has KE, JU, SA and ME. > > > > This clearly explains the frustration and disappointment. > > > > Now, is "sanyasa" indicated in the horoscope? My interpretation is > NO. > > > > "Sanyasa" generally needs a non-afflicted KE and a benefic JU. > Both these are missing in this chart. Also, VE conjoint MA in the > 9th. will make the native very passionate. This will also work > counter productively for a successful "Sanyasa". > > > > As mentioned up-front, I am not an expert. The reason for this > mail is to have a healthy debate and better understand horoscope > interpretations. I welcome any debate on any of the aspects > mentioned above. > > -- > > DISCLAIMER: I AM A NOVICE AT INTERPRETATIONS AND ANY OF THE > INDICATIONS MENTIONED ABOVE SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS CORRECT UNLESS AN > EXPERT AGREES WITH IT. > > -- > -- > > > > On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 ravikris wrote : > > > > > >Could i request any expert or amateur to analyse the following > data: > > >Date of Birth Jan 09th 1962 > > >Time of Birth 13.30 hrs Indian Standard Time > > >Place of Birth Thanjavur, Tamil Nadu > > > > > >This person seems to be interested in spritual and would like take > up > > >Sanyasa. This person seems to be much frustrated and disappointed > in > > >life. > > >Could any one please analyse the above data and advise. > > > > > >Thanks in advance for your analysis and help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Dear Mr. Jagannathan Thank you very much for your detailed analysis. I would like to add few words to your analysis. 1. You had mentioned that Sanyasa would have sprung up between 15-4- 2003 and 24-5-2004. Upon my enquiry with native, Sanyasa mood came between Jan 2004 and June 2004. The native feels that he is unattached to any relationship or material. I guess, this may help to correct his birth time if required. 2.About the native's past birth, it seems that native was practicing spritual and it was half way through in the past. So in this birth, the native continued his spritual practice and hence may be sanyasa. This seems to be true practice of Bhagawat Gita in the past birth. You had mentioned about this native's past birth father. It would be great if you could throw some light on his past birth and his family. 3. This native has only younger coborn. Even though this native did bring his brother up, his brother do not provide any support. But his brother gives only trouble to this native. 4.In addition to the above, this native gets trouble from parents or siblings. I guess, this may be the reason for the native to lead sanyasa. 5. As such, i have advised this native to prey Jupitor on Thursdays by visiting any nearest temple. Could you please advise any parihara for this native if you have anything in your mind. I would like to thank you in advance ravikris valist, kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr> wrote: > Dear Sir, > Apart from the views of the other learned members who had already given their cosidered views may I also add pl. > Presently Saturn dasa and venus bhukthi are in progress for the native and the dates are 24-5-2004 to 25-7-2007.(K.P.Ayanamsam)The 12th lord from the Moon siugn is with the 12th lord from the lagnam.Both od them are in the 12th from the Moon sign.It is swakshetram for Saturn.Jupiter is debilitated there. > This feeling of taling to sanya would have sprung up between 15-4- 2003 and 24-5-2004 which is the sub period of Ketu in Saturn dasa.ketu is a mendicant.being the karaka he is in the 12th bhavam.Sturn with Moon in Kumbha rasi causes aimless journeys or wanderings to different places. > It is said in Nadis that the twekfth house from jupiter gives us incling about the past Janmas.Now Jupiter is the 12th lord from the place where he is situated.he is in conjunction with the dasa nadha saturn.So there are fair chances that this trait is the otcome of the past lives of the native and his hoard of samskaras. > For instance as Sun is in the 12th house from Jupiter the natives father had some thing to do with the native in his past life also.The natives father is probably a Vishnu bhaktha who wears the holy insignia on his fore head ,called in common parlour as Namam or name of the Lord.The name of the father possibly has semblance with the name of of one of the Avatars of the Lord.during 1998/1999,the native might have taken to wanderings as then saturn during his transits touched the natal Moon. > > jupiter is a divine planet.So also ketu.Their combination is good for spiritual matters.12th lord in own sign too is quite good in this regard. > mars is in the 11th house.if he has an elder coborn that native will get lot fo good, for instance durin the venus bhukthi. > > He will vist temples alosduring the Venusian period.?Jupiters debility is cancelled. > > As per yogini dasa the native runs his following dasa bhukthis. > 9-1-1962+1yr9m=9-10-1963.Rahu dasa is over.+10yrs=9-10-1973,Mars dasa .+24=9-10-1997.Rahu is over.+6=9-10-2003.jupiters dasa is over.So mars dasa is in progress now. > Coming to bhukthis,....... > 9-10-2003+5m=9-3-2004,Mars dasa and Mars bhukthi.+9m=9-12-2004.Mars dasa and Mercury bhukthi is going on.Mars is the ashtamadhipathy from lagnam and mercury is the ashtamadhipathy from Moon.Moreover Mercury is a malefic.he too is in the 12th house.? > as per Tara dasa, Mithunam is the Tara lagnam.9-1-1962+9=9-1- 1971,Mithuna dasa is over.+9=9-1-1980,kataka dasa is gone.+9=1989, simhadasa is over+9=1998, Kanya dasa is over.Now Thula dasa is in progress. > Bukthis are, > Ak is in Dhanus.So the sub periods have to taken in the clockwise direction.9-1-1998+9m=9-10-1998,+9m=9-7-1999,+9m=9-4-2000,+9=9-1- 2001,+9m=9=10=2001,+9m=9-7-2002,+9m=9-4-2003,=9m=9-1-2004,+9m=9-10- 2004. > 9-4-2000 to 9-1-2001 was the period of Makhara bhukthi in the kanya adasa.this would have been a particular period .the native would have had some of the good and benificial results also. > I think that some Pariharas have to be performed . > I think that my analysis may be helpful for further analysis of the chart. > Regards, > Jagannathan. > Manohara Nagaraja <manohara.nagaraja@r...> wrote: > Dear Ravikris, > > A lot of yogas exist in most of the charts that I have seen. However, the fructification of the yogas, and the extent of its manifestation is what is very important while interpreting a chart. That is why in my mail I wrote that "the 10th house is very tricky". Between the 9th and 10th house, there are a lot of yogas - Dharmakarmadhipati (of a very strong kind - 9th and 10th lords in 10th) Bhagyavahana, pancha-maha purusha, etc... While each one of these is individually a great thing to have, their fructification is not guaranteed. I still think that the afflications to all combinations existing in the 9th and 10th houses of this chart are high and most of these yogas will not manifest fully. > > Regards, > > On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 ravikris wrote : > >Dear Member > >Please read the following message about this person and post your > >opnion. > >The native of this chart has Sasa Yoga, the rare Mahapurusha Yoga, > >when saturn is in own house (or exaltation) and in a quadrant from > >Lagna (or moon). The greatness of such people are not evident in the > >mundane plane, but is found in the mental and psychic planes. Sasha > >Yoga can occur only to a group of exceptional people. > > > >Under the impact of Saturn, the spiritualizing planet, the native will > >be a philosopher, knowing and feeling the futility of material > >existence. He will experience the dejection of the burial ground and > >sannyasa. Saturn in the 10th will break the shell of human pettiness > >and the individual surrenders to the supreme. > > > >Since Saturn is in the 10th, the native's feelings and emotions will > >become dry and barren (saturn aspecting 4th house) and the pleasures > >of material life gone (saturn aspecting 7th house) and sexual pleasure > >denied (saturn aspecting 12th house). The native will prefer to wander > >around from place to place, in tune with the divine. > > > >regards > > > > > > > >valist, "Manohara Nagaraja" > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > ------------------------------- ---- > >- > > > DISCLAIMER: I AM A NOVICE AT INTERPRETATIONS AND ANY OF THE > >INDICATIONS MENTIONED ABOVE SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS CORRECT UNLESS AN > >EXPERT AGREES WITH IT. > > > ------------------------------- ---- > >- > > > The native has an Aries Asc. and KE, JU, ME and SA in his 10th. > >SU,VE and MA are in the 9th and MO in the 11th. > > > > > > 10th house is very tricky. JU is neecha, conjoint with malefics > >(SA & KE), Conjoint with ME lord of 3rd and 6th. I think the key to > >interpretation here is the position of Ketu. > > > KE in 10, in CAP will cause him to be "unattached" and "not belong" > >to society at large. While the influence of JU will give this a > >religious bent, SA, in own house, in CAP will be a greater influence > >and will generally push the person in taking a higher ground. This > >will make the "unattachedness" or "not belonging-ness" to manifest > >itself as "i-am-more-righteous-than-thou" (due to the combined > >influence of SA and JU) attitude which will further put the native > >not mix with the society at large. The influence of ME will probably > >make him vocal about these aspects. > > > > > > MO in the 11th, in AQ, unaspected, will cause mental agony. Could > >manifest in multiple ways, but primarily, the native will have > >something to worry about most of the time. > > > From Chandra-lagna, for a peaceful life, you need strong kendras > >and an empty 12th. Here it is just the opposite, all the kendras are > >empty and the 12th has KE, JU, SA and ME. > > > > > > This clearly explains the frustration and disappointment. > > > > > > Now, is "sanyasa" indicated in the horoscope? My interpretation is > >NO. > > > > > > "Sanyasa" generally needs a non-afflicted KE and a benefic JU. > >Both these are missing in this chart. Also, VE conjoint MA in the > >9th. will make the native very passionate. This will also work > >counter productively for a successful "Sanyasa". > > > > > > As mentioned up-front, I am not an expert. The reason for this > >mail is to have a healthy debate and better understand horoscope > >interpretations. I welcome any debate on any of the aspects > >mentioned above. > > > ------------------------------- ---- > > > DISCLAIMER: I AM A NOVICE AT INTERPRETATIONS AND ANY OF THE > >INDICATIONS MENTIONED ABOVE SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS CORRECT UNLESS AN > >EXPERT AGREES WITH IT. > > > ------------------------------- ---- > >-- > > > > > > On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 ravikris wrote : > > > > > > > >Could i request any expert or amateur to analyse the following > >data: > > > >Date of Birth Jan 09th 1962 > > > >Time of Birth 13.30 hrs Indian Standard Time > > > >Place of Birth Thanjavur, Tamil Nadu > > > > > > > >This person seems to be interested in spritual and would like take > >up > > > >Sanyasa. This person seems to be much frustrated and disappointed > >in > > > >life. > > > >Could any one please analyse the above data and advise. > > > > > > > >Thanks in advance for your analysis and help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >: valist- > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > Jagannathan . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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