Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 Hi .my daughter is going to have a scissoring on September the 30th at 7:45 Am. My question is when the baby is taken by surgery instead of the natural birth how does the ancient seer's look at it. Can you erect a chart from this point? Any info on this would be appreciated .... Thanks ... Noel. Noel Gilbert Counselor Body, Mind & Soul LifeStyle Counselor Ayurveda - Herbalism Nutrition - Medical Astrology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Dear Sir, Kindly let me know the place of birth. Regards, jagannathan. Noel <sattva wrote: Hi .my daughter is going to have a scissoring on September the 30th at 7:45 Am. My question is when the baby is taken by surgery instead of the natural birth how does the ancient seer's look at it. Can you erect a chart from this point? Any info on this would be appreciated .... Thanks ... Noel. Noel Gilbert Counselor Body, Mind & Soul LifeStyle Counselor Ayurveda - Herbalism Nutrition - Medical Astrology : gjlist- Jagannathan . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Auburn, California USA ......Thank You Noel Gilbert Counselor Body, Mind & Soul LifeStyle Counselor Ayurveda - Herbalism Nutrition - Medical Astrology kapisthalam jagannathan [jagannathankr] Monday, August 09, 2004 7:39 AM gjlist Re: [GJ] Birth Dear Sir, Kindly let me know the place of birth. Regards, jagannathan. Noel <sattva wrote: Hi .my daughter is going to have a scissoring on September the 30th at 7:45 Am. My question is when the baby is taken by surgery instead of the natural birth how does the ancient seer's look at it. Can you erect a chart from this point? Any info on this would be appreciated .... Thanks ... Noel. Noel Gilbert Counselor Body, Mind & Soul LifeStyle Counselor Ayurveda - Herbalism Nutrition - Medical Astrology : gjlist- Jagannathan . : gjlist- Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Dear Sir, I am attaching the natal chart of the contemplated birth for your kind reference. Regarding the father, Now, the dasa periods then were ,ketu dasa,Jupiter bhukthi and Suns antaram from 19-8-2004 to 5-9-2004.the previous period was of Venus antaram from 24-6-2004. The nineth house is Taurus.The lord is venus.He is a benefic situated in the 12th house.jupiter aspects the nineth house.The lord of the nineth house from Moon sign is Jupiter.He is in the sixth from Moon sign. The above Suns period ought to have been a favourable period for the father of the contemplated baby.The results had to manifest before 5-9-2004.Possibly the results are pertaing to property matters, some litigation or they ought to have been purchased or sold away etc.Your opinion pl and then let us continue the discussion pl. Regards, jagannathan. Noel <sattva wrote: Auburn, California USA ......Thank You Noel Gilbert Counselor Body, Mind & Soul LifeStyle Counselor Ayurveda - Herbalism Nutrition - Medical Astrology kapisthalam jagannathan [jagannathankr] Monday, August 09, 2004 7:39 AM gjlist Re: [GJ] Birth Dear Sir, Kindly let me know the place of birth. Regards, jagannathan. Noel wrote: Hi .my daughter is going to have a scissoring on September the 30th at 7:45 Am. My question is when the baby is taken by surgery instead of the natural birth how does the ancient seer's look at it. Can you erect a chart from this point? Any info on this would be appreciated .... Thanks ... Noel. Noel Gilbert Counselor Body, Mind & Soul LifeStyle Counselor Ayurveda - Herbalism Nutrition - Medical Astrology : gjlist- Jagannathan . : gjlist- : gjlist- Jagannathan . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Dear Sir, I am attaching the natal chart of the contemplated birth for your kind reference. Regarding the father, Now, the dasa periods then were ,ketu dasa,Jupiter bhukthi and Suns antaram from 19-8-2004 to 5-9-2004.the previous period was of Venus antaram from 24-6-2004. The nineth house is Taurus.The lord is venus.He is a benefic situated in the 12th house.jupiter aspects the nineth house.The lord of the nineth house from Moon sign is Jupiter.He is in the sixth from Moon sign. The above Suns period ought to have been a favourable period for the father of the contemplated baby.The results had to manifest before 5-9-2004.Possibly the results are pertaing to property matters, some litigation or they ought to have been purchased or sold away etc.Your opinion pl and then let us continue the discussion pl. Regards, jagannathan. Noel <sattva wrote: Auburn, California USA ......Thank You Noel Gilbert Counselor Body, Mind & Soul LifeStyle Counselor Ayurveda - Herbalism Nutrition - Medical Astrology kapisthalam jagannathan [jagannathankr] Monday, August 09, 2004 7:39 AM gjlist Re: [GJ] Birth Dear Sir, Kindly let me know the place of birth. Regards, jagannathan. Noel wrote: Hi .my daughter is going to have a scissoring on September the 30th at 7:45 Am. My question is when the baby is taken by surgery instead of the natural birth how does the ancient seer's look at it. Can you erect a chart from this point? Any info on this would be appreciated .... Thanks ... Noel. Noel Gilbert Counselor Body, Mind & Soul LifeStyle Counselor Ayurveda - Herbalism Nutrition - Medical Astrology : gjlist- Jagannathan . : gjlist- : gjlist- Jagannathan . Jagannathan . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Dear Sir, I am attaching the natal chart of the contemplated birth for your kind reference. Regarding the father, Now, the dasa periods then were ,ketu dasa,Jupiter bhukthi and Suns antaram from 19-8-2004 to 5-9-2004.the previous period was of Venus antaram from 24-6-2004. The nineth house is Taurus.The lord is venus.He is a benefic situated in the 12th house.jupiter aspects the nineth house.The lord of the nineth house from Moon sign is Jupiter.He is in the sixth from Moon sign. The above Suns period ought to have been a favourable period for the father of the contemplated baby.The results had to manifest before 5-9-2004.Possibly the results are pertaing to property matters, some litigation or they ought to have been purchased or sold away etc.Your opinion pl and then let us continue the discussion pl. Regards, jagannathan. Noel <sattva wrote: Auburn, California USA ......Thank You Noel Gilbert Counselor Body, Mind & Soul LifeStyle Counselor Ayurveda - Herbalism Nutrition - Medical Astrology kapisthalam jagannathan [jagannathankr] Monday, August 09, 2004 7:39 AM gjlist Re: [GJ] Birth Dear Sir, Kindly let me know the place of birth. Regards, jagannathan. Noel wrote: Hi .my daughter is going to have a scissoring on September the 30th at 7:45 Am. My question is when the baby is taken by surgery instead of the natural birth how does the ancient seer's look at it. Can you erect a chart from this point? Any info on this would be appreciated .... Thanks ... Noel. Noel Gilbert Counselor Body, Mind & Soul LifeStyle Counselor Ayurveda - Herbalism Nutrition - Medical Astrology : gjlist- Jagannathan . : gjlist- : gjlist- Jagannathan . Jagannathan . Jagannathan . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Dear Noel this surgery issue is more related to mother than the baby. and I think that this is something to do with 5th house of mother's chart. your comments please. regards Deepak > Noel <sattva wrote: > Hi .my daughter is going to have a scissoring on September the 30th at 7:45 > Am. > > My question is when the baby is taken by surgery instead of the natural > birth how does the ancient seer's look at it. Can you erect a chart from > this point? Any info on this would be appreciated .... Thanks ... Noel. > > Noel Gilbert --\ ---- Disclaimer: This message, including any attachments contains confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient(s), and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorised review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Bajaj Auto reserves the right to record, monitor, and inspect all email communications through its internal and external networks. Your messages shall be subject to such lawful supervision as Bajaj Auto deems necessary in order to protect its information, interests and reputation. Bajaj Auto prohibits and takes steps to prevent its information systems from being used to view, store or forward offensive or discriminatory material. If this message contains such material, please report it to abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Hi Deepak ... I don't see the correlation but as I stated I'm no great Astrologer ... thanks thought ... Noel ... Noel Gilbert Counselor Body, Mind & Soul LifeStyle Counselor Ayurveda - Herbalism Nutrition - Medical Astrology DEEPAK D NANAL [ddnanal] Thursday, August 12, 2004 7:14 PM gjlist Re: [GJ] Birth Dear Noel this surgery issue is more related to mother than the baby. and I think that this is something to do with 5th house of mother's chart. your comments please. regards Deepak > Noel <sattva wrote: > Hi .my daughter is going to have a scissoring on September the 30th at 7:45 > Am. > > My question is when the baby is taken by surgery instead of the natural > birth how does the ancient seer's look at it. Can you erect a chart from > this point? Any info on this would be appreciated .... Thanks ... Noel. > > Noel Gilbert ---------- -------- Disclaimer: This message, including any attachments contains confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient(s), and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorised review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Bajaj Auto reserves the right to record, monitor, and inspect all email communications through its internal and external networks. Your messages shall be subject to such lawful supervision as Bajaj Auto deems necessary in order to protect its information, interests and reputation. Bajaj Auto prohibits and takes steps to prevent its information systems from being used to view, store or forward offensive or discriminatory material. If this message contains such material, please report it to abuse. : gjlist- Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Dear Noel If you want data of baby taken out by surgery, then I can give you. both of my kids are born by surgery. and in my wife's chart in fifth house there are saturn and sun. sun in its own sign and saturn is debilitated. I am also a learning member. if you want above three charts let me know. and check if it helps. but as per me the surgery has direct relation with the chart of mother. regards Deepak Noel wrote: > Hi Deepak ... I don't see the correlation but as I stated I'm no great > Astrologer ... thanks thought ... Noel ... > > Noel Gilbert > Counselor > Body, Mind & Soul > LifeStyle Counselor > Ayurveda - Herbalism > Nutrition - Medical Astrology --\ ---- Disclaimer: This message, including any attachments contains confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient(s), and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorised review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Bajaj Auto reserves the right to record, monitor, and inspect all email communications through its internal and external networks. Your messages shall be subject to such lawful supervision as Bajaj Auto deems necessary in order to protect its information, interests and reputation. Bajaj Auto prohibits and takes steps to prevent its information systems from being used to view, store or forward offensive or discriminatory material. If this message contains such material, please report it to abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2004 Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 Dear Deepak: As you are working on this subject how is it reflected in the birth chart of the baby. It should have some correlation in the Garbhashisth balance dasha. Give your comments on this. Regards Gaurav --- DEEPAK D NANAL <ddnanal wrote: > Dear Noel > If you want data of baby taken out by surgery, then > I can give you. both > of my kids are born by surgery. and in my wife's > chart in fifth house there > are saturn and sun. sun in its own sign and saturn > is debilitated. > I am also a learning member. if you want above three > charts let me know. > and check if it helps. > but as per me the surgery has direct relation with > the chart of mother. > regards > Deepak > > Noel wrote: > > > Hi Deepak ... I don't see the correlation but as I > stated I'm no great > > Astrologer ... thanks thought ... Noel ... > > > > Noel > Gilbert > > > Counselor > > Body, Mind & > Soul > > LifeStyle > Counselor > > Ayurveda - > Herbalism > > Nutrition - > Medical Astrology > > > --\ ---- > Disclaimer: > This message, including any attachments contains > confidential and > privileged information for the sole use of the > intended recipient(s), > and is protected by law. > If you are not the intended recipient, please > destroy all copies of the > original message. Any unauthorised review, use, > disclosure, > dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of > this email or any > action taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly > prohibited and > may be unlawful. > Bajaj Auto reserves the right to record, monitor, > and inspect all email > communications through its internal and external > networks. Your > messages shall be subject to such lawful supervision > as Bajaj Auto > deems necessary in order to protect its information, > interests > and reputation. > Bajaj Auto prohibits and takes steps to prevent its > information > systems from being used to view, store or forward > offensive or > discriminatory material. If this message contains > such material, > please report it to abuse. > > > > > > : > gjlist- > Links > > > gjlist > > > > Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 That's interesting, I have Saturn in the 5th house and had a c section.... just wondering, doctors normally schedule the operations, does that mean that one can, to some extent, change the birth timings and hence the chart of the new born? DEEPAK D NANAL <ddnanal wrote:Dear Noel If you want data of baby taken out by surgery, then I can give you. both of my kids are born by surgery. and in my wife's chart in fifth house there are saturn and sun. sun in its own sign and saturn is debilitated. I am also a learning member. if you want above three charts let me know. and check if it helps. but as per me the surgery has direct relation with the chart of mother. regards Deepak Noel wrote: > Hi Deepak ... I don't see the correlation but as I stated I'm no great > Astrologer ... thanks thought ... Noel ... > > Noel Gilbert > Counselor > Body, Mind & Soul > LifeStyle Counselor > Ayurveda - Herbalism > Nutrition - Medical Astrology --\ ---- Disclaimer: This message, including any attachments contains confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient(s), and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorised review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Bajaj Auto reserves the right to record, monitor, and inspect all email communications through its internal and external networks. Your messages shall be subject to such lawful supervision as Bajaj Auto deems necessary in order to protect its information, interests and reputation. Bajaj Auto prohibits and takes steps to prevent its information systems from being used to view, store or forward offensive or discriminatory material. If this message contains such material, please report it to abuse. : gjlist- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Om Vishnave Namah Namaste Listmembers, Hi Anita, I also have Saturn in natal 5th; foetus was breach, so I was offerred the choice of a protracted labour, episiotomy or tearing, forceps delivery or ulimately a ceasarian when babe and mother are so distressed as to cause irreparable damage to both. (I have actually seen this too many times for it to be considered an option!). I had no knowledge of Astrology at that time; towards the end I just wanted the pregnancy to be over as soon as possible I had the choice of a Monday or Thursday C-section. Timing was determined by unpredictable surgical protocol. Let go of the 'control' and see how much control we really have The astrological planetary positions were 'heavy' at the time anyway, so a win-win was not possible. All happens by God's grace anyway. 'I' chose Monday and had a darling healthy daughter with a bright Moon in Gemini Lagna. She has a difficult chart in many respects, one being GuruChandala yoga in 10th house, a sure sign for an illegitimate birth. A Thursday Birth 'may' have increased the malificience. I do not believe there is a basic difference between a natural birth or an induced surgical procedure. All are God given. Her chart suits her perfectly and she is duly reaping her Karma as destiny dictates. Saturn in the 5th house is our karma. So be it. Still, it makes for long nitpicking conversation. Congratulations on the birth of your dear baby!. With Love, Ann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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