Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Dear Ms. Janna Lynn, Thank you very much for taking an interest in the transit analysis sent to Mr. John R. Let me give you an insight over the situations you have and what you are currently going through in your life. Since I do not have complete picture of planets I may not be correct at the few points but please see this in proper light: 1. It is not clear on which date your job was lost. But please note that when the job was lost in August’03 Mars the 10th lord in your natal chart was retrograde in Aquarius i.e. natal 8th house. Saturn, the dispositor of Mars was transiting through natal 12th house in Gemini. Even Rahu & Ketu axis also was on the movement and would have started influencing the 10th & 4th houses i.e. Aries and Libra. So, a change was in store for you, which was supposed to cause a loss that too related to job – since all major planets were mostly related to the house of job. If you can note both 3rd house and 11th houses from 10th had weak planets – position wise. Please also note that Saturn is 10th house lord from natal 10th house which was transiting through 6th from Capricorn which also states loss. 2. Jupiter, the lord of fortune had also transited to 2nd house i.e. Leo in your natal chart in Aug’03, which is 6th from 9th house – pointing out that the luck element was missing or it was with an enemy who may have caused this. 3. Now, also see that both Jupiter and Saturn were in respective 12th houses from their natal positions indicating losses related to the houses. While health & status would have suffered, the strength and relationship with siblings would have caused agonies. 4. But the positive picture is that soon all that is going to change towards positive and in fact very good. The reason is that both Saturn and Jupiter will move to respective natal positions. While Jupiter may give you a chance to travel for divine purposes and have best of luck Saturn will prove beneficial in some sort of business or partnerships also to help people since it is a people related planet. 5. I think you should focus more towards public service based on the position of Saturn in natal chart in Cancer, which promises political/public activities and public dealings at large. Saturn ruling the masses will get you big name and fame in life if you concentrate over building a career into politics and at some point of time it may bestow you with public office. The reason of stating this is that Saturn in Cancer certainly gives such activities and you will soon see that it will automatically start when Saturn moves to Cancer. I perceive yourself having a strong commanding voice that will help you doing this. 6. Jupiter also is a planet that makes our base strong so that we become strong enough to live life happily. In your case its cycle will prove beneficial once it transits through Virgo during Jupiter return. Divine teaching is related to Jupiter being the guru of Gods. It will help you grow from within and grow mentally through the tough times that will soon go away. In your case the transits will not work the same way as in Mr. John’s case. Since Mars-Saturn combine gave you trouble relating to job it would have rather increased your expenses and mental worries than significant financial gains. Besides, there may be problems within your paternal family and low confidence within yourself. Try to meditate as much as you can and you will see that pains go as you delve deeper within yourself. On the astrology front, please focus on the houses concerned or in question and from there you try to analyze the transits that mostly indicate the situation. Just in case you know people with whom you interact most and have their birth details. Just try to write effect of transits or major/sub-periods and just keep that with yourself without sharing that with anybody (with dates clearly marked on that) and keep on analyzing that based on the other principles. Do this for a while and have an independent approach, which is easiest for you to learn and practice and see the results. That will be marvelous! Hope this helps. With best regards and best wishes, Prakash Kandpal - "Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn Wed, 02 Jun 2004 22:26:04 -0000 gjlist Re: [GJ] Career Analysis - To Mr. John R. Re: Dear Prakash: Re: Re: I have followed this post with interest since I also have Cancer Re: lagna and Re: similar career/financial concerns. I would appreciate it if you could Re: answer a Re: few general questions based on your reading to John with regard to Re: current Re: transits. Re: Re: -RE: dhana yogas i.e. wealth yogas having two malefics (Mars & Re: Saturn) in Re: Gemini in 12th house. From 2nd, 12th house is 11th and from 11th Re: house it is Re: 2nd house. Re: Re: I too was surprised since I had not heard anything positive about Re: Saturn in H- Re: 12. However, when Saturn moves to Cancer in September, this will be Re: "Saturn Re: Return" for me since NT Saturn is also in H-1. Could Saturn in H-12 Re: benefit Re: me by "giving the fruits of karma and hard work," as you say to John Re: in your Re: post before September ? (Saturn was creating a VRY (Vipareeta Raja Re: Yoga) Re: being the lord of 8th house lord posited in 12th house and aspecting Re: the 2nd Re: house of wealth. Saturn gives you results of your hard work and Re: karmas Re: which fructified in financial benefit). Re: Re: RE: You should also note that Rahu (North Node) in Aries i.e. 10th Re: house of Re: your chart, was also creating changes for you. Re: Re: I lost a job at this time (August 2003), which led to what I am doing Re: now, Re: teaching (a very NT 3rd House Jupiter course of action, but more hard Re: work Re: and little material benefit, although I feel that it is auspicious to Re: be in this field). Re: I am also in Jupiter-Jupiter-Mercury Mahadasa, and it seems this job Re: change Re: was directed by Jupiter's influence. But with NT Jupiter in H-3, the Re: 2nd house Re: would be 12th from the 3rd. Would this negatively impact the "fruits" Re: that might Re: come from Saturn's aspect on H-2? Re: Re: Do you see any career/material gains during this period?What other aspects Re: should I try to focus on for a fuller understanding? Thank you for any insights Re: you may have. Re: Re: Janna Re: Re: Om Shantih. Re: Re: http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ Re: Re: When the bells ring the spirit of Wind sings: Re: All is Full, from Full comes Full, take Full from Full, what is left Re: is Full. Re: Re: Om Purnamada Purnamidam Purnat Purnamadachayte Re: Purnasya, Purnamadaya, Purname Va vashisyate. Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: > Re: > - Re: > "John" <jr_esq> Re: > Thu, 27 May 2004 23:17:15 -0000 Re: > gjlist Re: > [GJ] Career Analysis Re: > Re: > Re: To all, Re: > Re: Re: > Re: We should consider the transits in determining the results of Re: our Re: > Re: career potential. In my case, Saturn is now transiting the Re: 12th Re: > Re: house in conjunction with my 10th house lord. The effect would Re: > Re: appear to be devastating for my career. However, the actual Re: effect Re: > Re: is that I applied for early retirement with the government Re: after 30 Re: > Re: years. And, the application was approved with a cash bonus to Re: leave. Re: > Re: Re: > Re: I believe the negative effects of having the 10th lord in the Re: 12th Re: > Re: house had been mitigated due to Jupiter placed in the 9th house Re: in Re: > Re: Pisces. Re: > Re: Re: > Re: My career was not ideal and was a roller coaster. But I Re: weathered Re: > Re: through it. Re: > Re: Re: > Re: Regards, Re: > Re: Re: > Re: John R. Re: > Re: Re: > Re: Re: > Re: Re: > Re: Re: > Re: Re: > Re: Re: > Re: Re: > Re: Re: > Re: Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat Re: > Re: : gjlist- Re: > Re: Re: > Re: Re: > Re: Links Re: > Re: Re: > Re: Re: > Re: Re: > Re: Re: > Re: Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > PHONE:+91-98105-27196 Re: > Re: > -- Re: > Re: _________ Re: > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com Re: > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat Re: : gjlist- Re: Re: Re: Links Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PHONE:+91-98105-27196 -- _________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Dear Prakash: I appreciate your taking the time to discuss the similarities/differences w= ith Mr. John's situation. In particular, your comment that "both Jupiter and Satur= n were in respective 12th houses from their natal positions indicating losses= related to the houses" explains the "stuckness" I have felt in particular i= n these houses. And although I have no desire to be "in public view" with so many planets in Cancer (Sun plus Mercury), it is more likely that my writing cou= ld reflect Saturn's natal return characteristics, particularly since my writin= g is "spiritual literature" and thus I have felt reflects both the protective an= d naturally isolationist nature of "Saturn in Cancer." Also since I'm not a professional astrologer but only follow the astrological movements accordin= g to my understanding and learning, I can only continue to do what you sugges= t last, which is to observe the effect of the transits. My approach is necess= arily "independent," which I also perceive in your approach to interpretation, si= nce I do not have "all of the pieces of the planetary puzzle" to work with and mu= st rely on a combination of my own knowledge and intuition with observations like the ones you and other astrologers have made, which certainly helps to= expand my understanding. It will be interesting for me to observe, for example, the effects of near simultaneous Saturn and Jupiter Returns (although this will more be by house than degree since NT Jupiter is 26 degrees). I have hoped that one will not cancel out the other but at least = provide a balance (in the divine and material realms), although I'm also no= t ruling out a "divine partnership." Thanks again for responding. Janna Om Shantih. http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ gjlist, "Prakash Kandpal" <Pck@c...> wrote: > Dear Ms. Janna Lynn, > > Thank you very much for taking an interest in the transit analysis sent t= o Mr. John R. > > Let me give you an insight over the situations you have and what you are = currently going through in your life. Since I do not have complete picture= of planets I may not be correct at the few points but please see this in prope= r light: > > 1. It is not clear on which date your job was lost. But please note that= when the job was lost in August'03 Mars the 10th lord in your natal chart was retrograde in Aquarius i.e. natal 8th house. Saturn, the dispositor of Mar= s was transiting through natal 12th house in Gemini. Even Rahu & Ketu axis also = was on the movement and would have started influencing the 10th & 4th houses i.e. Aries and Libra. So, a change was in store for you, which was = supposed to cause a loss that too related to job – since all major planets = were mostly related to the house of job. If you can note both 3rd house and 11t= h houses from 10th had weak planets – position wise. Please also note that Saturn is 10th house lord from natal 10th house which was transiting throug= h 6th from Capricorn which also states loss. > 2. Jupiter, the lord of fortune had also transited to 2nd house i.e. Leo = in your natal chart in Aug'03, which is 6th from 9th house – pointing out that the = luck element was missing or it was with an enemy who may have caused this. > 3. Now, also see that both Jupiter and Saturn were in respective 12th houses from their natal positions indicating losses related to the houses. = While health & status would have suffered, the strength and relationship wi= th siblings would have caused agonies. > 4. But the positive picture is that soon all that is going to change towa= rds positive and in fact very good. The reason is that both Saturn and Jupiter= will move to respective natal positions. While Jupiter may give you a chance to= travel for divine purposes and have best of luck Saturn will prove benefici= al in some sort of business or partnerships also to help people since it is a peo= ple related planet. > 5. I think you should focus more towards public service based on the position of Saturn in natal chart in Cancer, which promises political/publi= c activities and public dealings at large. Saturn ruling the masses will get= you big name and fame in life if you concentrate over building a career into politics and at some point of time it may bestow you with public office. Th= e reason of stating this is that Saturn in Cancer certainly gives such activi= ties and you will soon see that it will automatically start when Saturn moves to= Cancer. I perceive yourself having a strong commanding voice that will hel= p you doing this. > 6. Jupiter also is a planet that makes our base strong so that we become = strong enough to live life happily. In your case its cycle will prove bene= ficial once it transits through Virgo during Jupiter return. Divine teaching is r= elated to Jupiter being the guru of Gods. It will help you grow from within and gr= ow mentally through the tough times that will soon go away. > > In your case the transits will not work the same way as in Mr. John's cas= e. Since Mars-Saturn combine gave you trouble relating to job it would have rather increased your expenses and mental worries than significant financia= l gains. Besides, there may be problems within your paternal family and low = confidence within yourself. Try to meditate as much as you can and you wil= l see that pains go as you delve deeper within yourself. > > On the astrology front, please focus on the houses concerned or in questi= on and from there you try to analyze the transits that mostly indicate the sit= uation. Just in case you know people with whom you interact most and have their birth details. Just try to write effect of transits or major/sub-periods a= nd just keep that with yourself without sharing that with anybody (with dates clear= ly marked on that) and keep on analyzing that based on the other principles. = Do this for a while and have an independent approach, which is easiest for you= to learn and practice and see the results. That will be marvelous! > > Hope this helps. > > With best regards and best wishes, > Prakash Kandpal > > - > "Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn> > Wed, 02 Jun 2004 22:26:04 -0000 > gjlist > Re: [GJ] Career Analysis - To Mr. John R. > > Re: Dear Prakash: > Re: > Re: I have followed this post with interest since I also have Cancer > Re: lagna and > Re: similar career/financial concerns. I would appreciate it if you could= > Re: answer a > Re: few general questions based on your reading to John with regard to > Re: current > Re: transits. > Re: > Re: -RE: dhana yogas i.e. wealth yogas having two malefics (Mars & > Re: Saturn) in > Re: Gemini in 12th house. From 2nd, 12th house is 11th and from 11th > Re: house it is > Re: 2nd house. > Re: > Re: I too was surprised since I had not heard anything positive about > Re: Saturn in H- > Re: 12. However, when Saturn moves to Cancer in September, this will be > Re: "Saturn > Re: Return" for me since NT Saturn is also in H-1. Could Saturn in H-12 > Re: benefit > Re: me by "giving the fruits of karma and hard work," as you say to John = > Re: in your > Re: post before September ? (Saturn was creating a VRY (Vipareeta Raja > Re: Yoga) > Re: being the lord of 8th house lord posited in 12th house and aspecting > Re: the 2nd > Re: house of wealth. Saturn gives you results of your hard work and > Re: karmas > Re: which fructified in financial benefit). > Re: > Re: RE: You should also note that Rahu (North Node) in Aries i.e. 10th > Re: house of > Re: your chart, was also creating changes for you. > Re: > Re: I lost a job at this time (August 2003), which led to what I am doing= > Re: now, > Re: teaching (a very NT 3rd House Jupiter course of action, but more hard= > Re: work > Re: and little material benefit, although I feel that it is auspicious to= > Re: be in this field). > Re: I am also in Jupiter-Jupiter-Mercury Mahadasa, and it seems this job > Re: change > Re: was directed by Jupiter's influence. But with NT Jupiter in H-3, the > Re: 2nd house > Re: would be 12th from the 3rd. Would this negatively impact the "fruits"= > Re: that might > Re: come from Saturn's aspect on H-2? > Re: > Re: Do you see any career/material gains during this period?What other aspects > Re: should I try to focus on for a fuller understanding? Thank you for an= y insights > Re: you may have. > Re: > Re: Janna > Re: > Re: Om Shantih. > Re: > Re: http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ > Re: > Re: When the bells ring the spirit of Wind sings: > Re: All is Full, from Full comes Full, take Full from Full, what is left > Re: is Full. > Re: > Re: Om Purnamada Purnamidam Purnat Purnamadachayte > Re: Purnasya, Purnamadaya, Purname Va vashisyate. > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > > Re: > - > Re: > "John" <jr_esq> > Re: > Thu, 27 May 2004 23:17:15 -0000 > Re: > gjlist > Re: > [GJ] Career Analysis > Re: > > Re: > Re: To all, > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: We should consider the transits in determining the results of > Re: our > Re: > Re: career potential. In my case, Saturn is now transiting the > Re: 12th > Re: > Re: house in conjunction with my 10th house lord. The effect would= > Re: > Re: appear to be devastating for my career. However, the actual > Re: effect > Re: > Re: is that I applied for early retirement with the government > Re: after 30 > Re: > Re: years. And, the application was approved with a cash bonus to > Re: leave. > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: I believe the negative effects of having the 10th lord in the > Re: 12th > Re: > Re: house had been mitigated due to Jupiter placed in the 9th house= > Re: in > Re: > Re: Pisces. > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: My career was not ideal and was a roller coaster. But I > Re: weathered > Re: > Re: through it. > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: Regards, > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: John R. > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > Re: > Re: : gjlist- > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: Links > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > > Re: > > Re: > > Re: > PHONE:+91-98105-27196 > Re: > > Re: > -- > Re: > > Re: _________ > Re: > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > Re: > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > Re: : gjlist- > Re: > Re: > Re: Links > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > Re: > > > > PHONE:+91-98105-27196 > > -- > _________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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