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~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Respected Gurus and Senior Members,

 

I have one query. Can a combusted, debiliated planet

placed in a dusthana with a malefic give good results?

I have mercury placed in 8th house from lagna, it is

both debiliated, combusted and placed with a malefic

(ketu) but still mercury periods are very good. Even

in AD and PD periods, I can feel very good effect.

Like I am going through Saturn MD, so most of the time

there are some problems or tensions, but in periods of

mercury, I feel very good. The effect is good in terms

of relationships, money, career and mental peace. I am

unable to find exact reason till now, but here is list

of possible causes.

 

1) Mercury is both retro + debiliated, so it can give

some results of exalted planet.

 

2) It is Lord of D-9, D-5 and D-16 and placed in a

dusthana, so malefic effect is cancelled. Just a

thought emerged from my mind, it may sound silly.

 

3) Mercury is placed in its own star revati.

 

4) Mercury is lord of 2nd house (money) and 11th house

(gains)

 

5) There is parivartana yoga between 8th lord jupiter

and 11th lord mercury, so due to jupiter I am getting

these results.

 

6) Mercury is my AK.

 

 

But I am curious to know, what exactly is the reason

behind mercury being so good to me. So I request gurus

and senior members to kindly clear my doubt. I have

got made one emerald pendant and will be wearing it

this wednesday, and would see, if something goes

positive.

 

For your reference, here are my birth details

 

D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

P.o.B - New Delhi, India

T.o.B - 3:31:58 PM

 

 

Thanks and Regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

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Dear Neeraj

Couple of quick comments in my experience

Mercury has some affinity with the 8th house and is the planet that is least

harmed there . It is good for esoteric knowledge .

Retrograde exalted or debilitated planets behave very strangely .

The exchange between the 8th and 11th is a peculiar one that might at times

bring windfalls .Jupiter is also quite strong in the chart and forms a hamsa

yoga in the navamsa .

Nicholas

 

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"GJ" <gjlist>; "SJC" <>;

"VA" <vedic astrology>

Cc:

Monday, March 22, 2004 4:33 PM

[GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with good results? How??

 

 

> ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

> Respected Gurus and Senior Members,

>

> I have one query. Can a combusted, debiliated planet

> placed in a dusthana with a malefic give good results?

> I have mercury placed in 8th house from lagna, it is

> both debiliated, combusted and placed with a malefic

> (ketu) but still mercury periods are very good. Even

> in AD and PD periods, I can feel very good effect.

> Like I am going through Saturn MD, so most of the time

> there are some problems or tensions, but in periods of

> mercury, I feel very good. The effect is good in terms

> of relationships, money, career and mental peace. I am

> unable to find exact reason till now, but here is list

> of possible causes.

>

> 1) Mercury is both retro + debiliated, so it can give

> some results of exalted planet.

>

> 2) It is Lord of D-9, D-5 and D-16 and placed in a

> dusthana, so malefic effect is cancelled. Just a

> thought emerged from my mind, it may sound silly.

>

> 3) Mercury is placed in its own star revati.

>

> 4) Mercury is lord of 2nd house (money) and 11th house

> (gains)

>

> 5) There is parivartana yoga between 8th lord jupiter

> and 11th lord mercury, so due to jupiter I am getting

> these results.

>

> 6) Mercury is my AK.

>

>

> But I am curious to know, what exactly is the reason

> behind mercury being so good to me. So I request gurus

> and senior members to kindly clear my doubt. I have

> got made one emerald pendant and will be wearing it

> this wednesday, and would see, if something goes

> positive.

>

> For your reference, here are my birth details

>

> D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> P.o.B - New Delhi, India

> T.o.B - 3:31:58 PM

>

>

> Thanks and Regards,

>

> Neeraj Gupta

>

> =====

> http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/

>

>

>

> Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.

> http://taxes./filing.html

>

>

>

>

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Dear Nicholas

I hope you have been well.

 

I have seen this with Mercury in the 8th myself. I have also seen it

manifest as a gut-level intuition regarding business and financial matters.

Have seen it with the lord of the 11th manifest in inheritance that is

substantial.

 

The dark side I have seen, but do not mean that this is always true, is

depression. Thoughts turn dark.

 

cynthia

 

 

 

 

Nicholas [jyotish108]

Monday, March 22, 2004 4:37 AM

gjlist

Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with good results? How??

 

 

Dear Neeraj

Couple of quick comments in my experience

Mercury has some affinity with the 8th house and is the planet that is least

harmed there . It is good for esoteric knowledge .

Retrograde exalted or debilitated planets behave very strangely .

The exchange between the 8th and 11th is a peculiar one that might at times

bring windfalls .Jupiter is also quite strong in the chart and forms a hamsa

yoga in the navamsa .

Nicholas

 

-

"Neeraj Gupta" <gupta_neeraj_2000

"GJ" <gjlist>; "SJC" <>;

"VA" <vedic astrology>

Cc:

Monday, March 22, 2004 4:33 PM

[GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with good results? How??

 

 

> ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

> Respected Gurus and Senior Members,

>

> I have one query. Can a combusted, debiliated planet

> placed in a dusthana with a malefic give good results?

> I have mercury placed in 8th house from lagna, it is

> both debiliated, combusted and placed with a malefic

> (ketu) but still mercury periods are very good. Even

> in AD and PD periods, I can feel very good effect.

> Like I am going through Saturn MD, so most of the time

> there are some problems or tensions, but in periods of

> mercury, I feel very good. The effect is good in terms

> of relationships, money, career and mental peace. I am

> unable to find exact reason till now, but here is list

> of possible causes.

>

> 1) Mercury is both retro + debiliated, so it can give

> some results of exalted planet.

>

> 2) It is Lord of D-9, D-5 and D-16 and placed in a

> dusthana, so malefic effect is cancelled. Just a

> thought emerged from my mind, it may sound silly.

>

> 3) Mercury is placed in its own star revati.

>

> 4) Mercury is lord of 2nd house (money) and 11th house

> (gains)

>

> 5) There is parivartana yoga between 8th lord jupiter

> and 11th lord mercury, so due to jupiter I am getting

> these results.

>

> 6) Mercury is my AK.

>

>

> But I am curious to know, what exactly is the reason

> behind mercury being so good to me. So I request gurus

> and senior members to kindly clear my doubt. I have

> got made one emerald pendant and will be wearing it

> this wednesday, and would see, if something goes

> positive.

>

> For your reference, here are my birth details

>

> D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> P.o.B - New Delhi, India

> T.o.B - 3:31:58 PM

>

>

> Thanks and Regards,

>

> Neeraj Gupta

>

> =====

> http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/

>

>

>

> Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.

> http://taxes./filing.html

>

>

>

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

>

> Links

>

>

>

>

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Dear Cynthia & Nicholas,

Allow me a personal comment with regard to Mercury in the 8th (especially

for Leo Asc....).

Contrary to Neeraj Gupta I just left Saturn/Mercury behind me - which was

one of the darkest financial periods in my life (for more than 30 month) but

despite that I am as far away from any depression - on the contrary.

I also have Debl. Mercury in the 8th as lord of 2nd and 11th aspecting the

2nd housing Moon, the 12th lord. Mercury is also my AK.

Results are exactly the opposite.

The answer is found in the various aspects (incl. argala), Mercury's

strength (shadbala) and placement in the divisions.

Besides, my Mercury is in rasi sandhi (junction point) between Pisces/Aries

at 29:40 which is not that funny at all according to various sources....

 

Kind regards

/Jay Weiss

http://www.alvicomm.com

http://www.alvicomm.com/privat.htm

 

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Monday, March 22, 2004 4:18 PM

RE: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with good results? How??

 

 

> Dear Nicholas

> I hope you have been well.

>

> I have seen this with Mercury in the 8th myself. I have also seen it

> manifest as a gut-level intuition regarding business and financial

matters.

> Have seen it with the lord of the 11th manifest in inheritance that is

> substantial.

>

> The dark side I have seen, but do not mean that this is always true, is

> depression. Thoughts turn dark.

>

> cynthia

>

>

>

>

> Nicholas [jyotish108]

> Monday, March 22, 2004 4:37 AM

> gjlist

> Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with good results? How??

>

>

> Dear Neeraj

> Couple of quick comments in my experience

> Mercury has some affinity with the 8th house and is the planet that is

least

> harmed there . It is good for esoteric knowledge .

> Retrograde exalted or debilitated planets behave very strangely .

> The exchange between the 8th and 11th is a peculiar one that might at

times

> bring windfalls .Jupiter is also quite strong in the chart and forms a

hamsa

> yoga in the navamsa .

> Nicholas

>

> -

> "Neeraj Gupta" <gupta_neeraj_2000

> "GJ" <gjlist>; "SJC" <>;

> "VA" <vedic astrology>

> Cc:

> Monday, March 22, 2004 4:33 PM

> [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with good results? How??

>

>

> > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> >

> > Respected Gurus and Senior Members,

> >

> > I have one query. Can a combusted, debiliated planet

> > placed in a dusthana with a malefic give good results?

> > I have mercury placed in 8th house from lagna, it is

> > both debiliated, combusted and placed with a malefic

> > (ketu) but still mercury periods are very good. Even

> > in AD and PD periods, I can feel very good effect.

> > Like I am going through Saturn MD, so most of the time

> > there are some problems or tensions, but in periods of

> > mercury, I feel very good. The effect is good in terms

> > of relationships, money, career and mental peace. I am

> > unable to find exact reason till now, but here is list

> > of possible causes.

> >

> > 1) Mercury is both retro + debiliated, so it can give

> > some results of exalted planet.

> >

> > 2) It is Lord of D-9, D-5 and D-16 and placed in a

> > dusthana, so malefic effect is cancelled. Just a

> > thought emerged from my mind, it may sound silly.

> >

> > 3) Mercury is placed in its own star revati.

> >

> > 4) Mercury is lord of 2nd house (money) and 11th house

> > (gains)

> >

> > 5) There is parivartana yoga between 8th lord jupiter

> > and 11th lord mercury, so due to jupiter I am getting

> > these results.

> >

> > 6) Mercury is my AK.

> >

> >

> > But I am curious to know, what exactly is the reason

> > behind mercury being so good to me. So I request gurus

> > and senior members to kindly clear my doubt. I have

> > got made one emerald pendant and will be wearing it

> > this wednesday, and would see, if something goes

> > positive.

> >

> > For your reference, here are my birth details

> >

> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > P.o.B - New Delhi, India

> > T.o.B - 3:31:58 PM

> >

> >

> > Thanks and Regards,

> >

> > Neeraj Gupta

> >

> > =====

> > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/

> >

> >

> >

> > Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.

> > http://taxes./filing.html

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> > : gjlist-

> >

> >

> > Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

>

> Links

>

>

>

>

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

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Hello dear Neeraj,

 

Hope this finds you in the best of your health and spirit. At present you

are in the sub-period of Venus in the main period of Sat. which was started

on Dec.22,2003 and will run till Dec.15,2006 as per your birth details

below. It appears good period because the strong and well placed Venus is

ruling the 10th and 3rd. house from the 9th house of future fortune in your

chart . No doubt the benefic main period lord Sat. well placed in the ASDT.

is weak due to infancy and debilated in Navamsa. That is why you are

enjoying and having fun. I suggest you may look into wearing a good quality

Neelam on an auspicious elected time.

 

Your Sat./Me. period was started in Mar, 2000 and finished June 09,2002.

Are you saying that during that period you also had good results ?

 

Best wishes.............................Amar Puri.

 

 

>Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000

>gjlist

>GJ <gjlist>, SJC <>, VA

><vedic astrology>

>CC: harsha

>[GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with good results? How??

>Mon, 22 Mar 2004 00:33:33 -0800 (PST)

>

>~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

>Respected Gurus and Senior Members,

>

>I have one query. Can a combusted, debiliated planet

>placed in a dusthana with a malefic give good results?

>I have mercury placed in 8th house from lagna, it is

>both debiliated, combusted and placed with a malefic

>(ketu) but still mercury periods are very good. Even

>in AD and PD periods, I can feel very good effect.

>Like I am going through Saturn MD, so most of the time

>there are some problems or tensions, but in periods of

>mercury, I feel very good. The effect is good in terms

>of relationships, money, career and mental peace. I am

>unable to find exact reason till now, but here is list

>of possible causes.

>

>1) Mercury is both retro + debiliated, so it can give

>some results of exalted planet.

>

>2) It is Lord of D-9, D-5 and D-16 and placed in a

>dusthana, so malefic effect is cancelled. Just a

>thought emerged from my mind, it may sound silly.

>

>3) Mercury is placed in its own star revati.

>

>4) Mercury is lord of 2nd house (money) and 11th house

>(gains)

>

>5) There is parivartana yoga between 8th lord jupiter

>and 11th lord mercury, so due to jupiter I am getting

>these results.

>

>6) Mercury is my AK.

>

>

>But I am curious to know, what exactly is the reason

>behind mercury being so good to me. So I request gurus

>and senior members to kindly clear my doubt. I have

>got made one emerald pendant and will be wearing it

>this wednesday, and would see, if something goes

>positive.

>

>For your reference, here are my birth details

>

>D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

>P.o.B - New Delhi, India

>T.o.B - 3:31:58 PM

>

>

>Thanks and Regards,

>

>Neeraj Gupta

>

>=====

>http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/

>

>

>

> Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.

>http://taxes./filing.html

>

>

>

>

>Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

>: gjlist-

>

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Dear Neeraj,

> 1) Mercury is both retro + debiliated, so it can give

> some results of exalted planet.

It is ruled out because of its combustion, but it is close to Sun , which is

exalted in adjoining house, shows positive influnce of near by persons and

winning over as Sun is with Venus the Lagna lord with 10th lord, so in spite

of Rashi barier there is influnce of Raj yoga.

> 2) It is Lord of D-9, D-5 and D-16 and placed in a

> dusthana, so malefic effect is cancelled. Just a

> thought emerged from my mind, it may sound silly.

 

Mercury is in Saturan Navmasha and Saturan in 1 in D -1, good position.

Mercury in 8th in D-1 and in 6th in D-9 again a good position.

Mercury mars Saturan Sun in a chain like combination, it does not smell me

well every thing, it shows some unnatural events but causing gains with some

hidden means, it cause recoveries, or unexpected gains too, but Sun

significance is lost.

> 3) Mercury is placed in its own star revati.

Again it is not good , it does not shows success in plans because mercury is

to rest upon mercury due to constelation , which is combust and

retograde.The only way left him to show the influence is of Jupiter his sign

dispositor, and the Sun who is exalted and is with Venus, which has

influenced him so badly that it causes its combustion.

> 4) Mercury is lord of 2nd house (money) and 11th house

> (gains)

Join and read it with Sun the cause is clear.

> 5) There is parivartana yoga between 8th lord jupiter

> and 11th lord mercury, so due to jupiter I am getting

> these results.

Jupiter is also 5th lord, it gives you astrology and occult and lack of

buysness qualities of Mercury, or Mercury qualities are influenced by

Jupiter.

> 6) Mercury is my AK.

It shows a confusion , you will be misjudged , it has nothing to do with

dasha.

>

> But I am curious to know, what exactly is the reason

> behind mercury being so good to me. So I request gurus

> and senior members to kindly clear my doubt. I have

> got made one emerald pendant and will be wearing it

> this wednesday, and would see, if something goes

> positive.

>

> For your reference, here are my birth details

>

> D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> P.o.B - New Delhi, India

> T.o.B - 3:31:58 PM

>

>

> Thanks and Regards,

>

> Neeraj Gupta

 

Wearing Emerland will surely help, it will influence Mercury to act on his

own , or it will try to influence in you prakarity of Mercury which is quite

under the shade of Sun and Jupiter.

 

With Best Wishes,

Inder Jit Sahni, House No.1351-HIG, Model Town Phase-1

Bhatinda-151001 phone 0164-2211360

hanskpvedic

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~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Dear Inder Jit Ji,

 

Thanks for your comments and analysis. Earlier I used to thought that

I have interest in Astrology and occult sciences due to placement of

mercury with ketu in 8th.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

gjlist, Inder Jit Sahni <isawhney@s...> wrote:

> Dear Neeraj,

> > 1) Mercury is both retro + debiliated, so it can give

> > some results of exalted planet.

> It is ruled out because of its combustion, but it is close to Sun ,

which is

> exalted in adjoining house, shows positive influnce of near by

persons and

> winning over as Sun is with Venus the Lagna lord with 10th lord, so

in spite

> of Rashi barier there is influnce of Raj yoga.

> > 2) It is Lord of D-9, D-5 and D-16 and placed in a

> > dusthana, so malefic effect is cancelled. Just a

> > thought emerged from my mind, it may sound silly.

>

> Mercury is in Saturan Navmasha and Saturan in 1 in D -1, good

position.

> Mercury in 8th in D-1 and in 6th in D-9 again a good position.

> Mercury mars Saturan Sun in a chain like combination, it does not

smell me

> well every thing, it shows some unnatural events but causing gains

with some

> hidden means, it cause recoveries, or unexpected gains too, but Sun

> significance is lost.

> > 3) Mercury is placed in its own star revati.

> Again it is not good , it does not shows success in plans because

mercury is

> to rest upon mercury due to constelation , which is combust and

> retograde.The only way left him to show the influence is of Jupiter

his sign

> dispositor, and the Sun who is exalted and is with Venus, which has

> influenced him so badly that it causes its combustion.

> > 4) Mercury is lord of 2nd house (money) and 11th house

> > (gains)

> Join and read it with Sun the cause is clear.

> > 5) There is parivartana yoga between 8th lord jupiter

> > and 11th lord mercury, so due to jupiter I am getting

> > these results.

> Jupiter is also 5th lord, it gives you astrology and occult and

lack of

> buysness qualities of Mercury, or Mercury qualities are influenced

by

> Jupiter.

> > 6) Mercury is my AK.

> It shows a confusion , you will be misjudged , it has nothing to do

with

> dasha.

> >

> > But I am curious to know, what exactly is the reason

> > behind mercury being so good to me. So I request gurus

> > and senior members to kindly clear my doubt. I have

> > got made one emerald pendant and will be wearing it

> > this wednesday, and would see, if something goes

> > positive.

> >

> > For your reference, here are my birth details

> >

> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > P.o.B - New Delhi, India

> > T.o.B - 3:31:58 PM

> >

> >

> > Thanks and Regards,

> >

> > Neeraj Gupta

>

> Wearing Emerland will surely help, it will influence Mercury to act

on his

> own , or it will try to influence in you prakarity of Mercury which

is quite

> under the shade of Sun and Jupiter.

>

> With Best Wishes,

> Inder Jit Sahni, House No.1351-HIG, Model Town Phase-1

> Bhatinda-151001 phone 0164-2211360

> hanskpvedic

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~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Dear Amar Ji,

Thanks for your reply and sorry for replying late. As I was getting

too many mails in my mail box, so I changed the setting to "No

Emails".

 

>

> Your Sat./Me. period was started in Mar, 2000 and finished June

09,2002.

> Are you saying that during that period you also had good results ?

 

No, this period was not all good for me, I had good period till

April, 14 2001, then it was a bad period. Mercury PD's are going

good. Then again good period in Oct, 2003 - till now.

 

 

Why you suggested for wearing a neelam. Saturn is Lord of 6th and 7th

in D-1. So, according to me, it will give troubles to me. I had worn

neelam in mid 2001, but it gave me negative effects. Even I had tried

the substitute of Neelam (Lajward), that too didn't suited.

 

Now as per my experience and little knowledge of Astrology, I had

worn emerald 10 days back, and till now it is giving good results.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

gjlist, "fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...>

wrote:

> Hello dear Neeraj,

>

> Hope this finds you in the best of your health and spirit. At

present you

> are in the sub-period of Venus in the main period of Sat. which was

started

> on Dec.22,2003 and will run till Dec.15,2006 as per your birth

details

> below. It appears good period because the strong and well placed

Venus is

> ruling the 10th and 3rd. house from the 9th house of future

fortune in your

> chart . No doubt the benefic main period lord Sat. well placed in

the ASDT.

> is weak due to infancy and debilated in Navamsa. That is why you

are

> enjoying and having fun. I suggest you may look into wearing a

good quality

> Neelam on an auspicious elected time.

>

> Your Sat./Me. period was started in Mar, 2000 and finished June

09,2002.

> Are you saying that during that period you also had good results ?

>

> Best wishes.............................Amar Puri.

>

>

> >Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000>

> >gjlist

> >GJ <gjlist>, SJC

<>, VA

> ><vedic astrology>

> >CC: harsha@m...

> >[GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with good results? How??

> >Mon, 22 Mar 2004 00:33:33 -0800 (PST)

> >

> >~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> >

> >Respected Gurus and Senior Members,

> >

> >I have one query. Can a combusted, debiliated planet

> >placed in a dusthana with a malefic give good results?

> >I have mercury placed in 8th house from lagna, it is

> >both debiliated, combusted and placed with a malefic

> >(ketu) but still mercury periods are very good. Even

> >in AD and PD periods, I can feel very good effect.

> >Like I am going through Saturn MD, so most of the time

> >there are some problems or tensions, but in periods of

> >mercury, I feel very good. The effect is good in terms

> >of relationships, money, career and mental peace. I am

> >unable to find exact reason till now, but here is list

> >of possible causes.

> >

> >1) Mercury is both retro + debiliated, so it can give

> >some results of exalted planet.

> >

> >2) It is Lord of D-9, D-5 and D-16 and placed in a

> >dusthana, so malefic effect is cancelled. Just a

> >thought emerged from my mind, it may sound silly.

> >

> >3) Mercury is placed in its own star revati.

> >

> >4) Mercury is lord of 2nd house (money) and 11th house

> >(gains)

> >

> >5) There is parivartana yoga between 8th lord jupiter

> >and 11th lord mercury, so due to jupiter I am getting

> >these results.

> >

> >6) Mercury is my AK.

> >

> >

> >But I am curious to know, what exactly is the reason

> >behind mercury being so good to me. So I request gurus

> >and senior members to kindly clear my doubt. I have

> >got made one emerald pendant and will be wearing it

> >this wednesday, and would see, if something goes

> >positive.

> >

> >For your reference, here are my birth details

> >

> >D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> >P.o.B - New Delhi, India

> >T.o.B - 3:31:58 PM

> >

> >

> >Thanks and Regards,

> >

> >Neeraj Gupta

> >

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Hello dear Neeraj,

 

Please read my reply in CAP. appended below your message.

 

Best wishes...............Amar Puri.

 

 

>"Neeraj" <gupta_neeraj_2000

>gjlist

>gjlist

>Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with good results? How??

>Mon, 05 Apr 2004 11:06:47 -0000

>

>~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

>Dear Amar Ji,

>Thanks for your reply and sorry for replying late. As I was getting

>too many mails in my mail box, so I changed the setting to "No

>Emails".

>

> >

> > Your Sat./Me. period was started in Mar, 2000 and finished June

>09,2002.

> > Are you saying that during that period you also had good results ?

>

>No, this period was not all good for me, I had good period till

>April, 14 2001, then it was a bad period.

 

SO, YOU AGREED THAT MERCURY PERIOD WAS NOT GOOD.

 

 

Mercury PD's are going

>good. Then again good period in Oct, 2003 - till now.

 

IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF MERCURY PD'S IS GOING GOOD RATHER IT IS THE STRONG

BENEFIC SUB PERIOD LORD VENUS IN THE MAIN PERIOD BENEFIC LORD SATURN IS

GIVING YOU GOOD RESULTS, AND YOU ARE ENJOYING AND HAVING GOOD TIME.

>

>

>Why you suggested for wearing a neelam. Saturn is Lord of 6th and 7th

>in D-1.

 

THE REASON BEING YOUR MAIN PERIOD BENEFIC LORD IS WEAK DUE TO DEBILITATED IN

NAVAMSA, INFANCY STAGE AND WEAK DISPOSITOR. BY WEARING NEELAM 4.77 CARAT IN

GOLD IN MIDDLE FINGER OF LEFT HAND ON AN AUSPICIOUS ELECTED TIME CAN BE

STRENGTHENED AND FRUITFUL.

So, according to me, it will give troubles to me. I had worn

>neelam in mid 2001, but it gave me negative effects. Even I had tried

>the substitute of Neelam (Lajward), that too didn't suited.

 

THE NEELAM SHOULD NOT GIVE YOU ANY NEGATIVE EFFECTS IF YOU WEAR IT IN

ACCORDANCE WITH THE ABOVE WITHOUT THE PEARL OR GOMAD OR CATS EYE STONE.

SATURN IS A BENEFIC PLANET FOR YOUR CHART.

 

LET ME POINT OUT OTHER WEAK BENEFIC PLANETS IN YOUR CHART ARE MARS

12H.DEBILITATION AND SUN IN INFANCY BUT GOOD PLACEMENT. VENUS GOOD

PLACEMENT BUT WEAK DISPOSITOR.

THE ONLY MALEFICS ARE MOON, RAHU AND KETU WHICH YOU MUST PROPITIATE

REGULARLY. I AM SURE YOU KNOW HOW ?

>

>Now as per my experience and little knowledge of Astrology, I had

>worn emerald 10 days back, and till now it is giving good results.

 

THE GOOD RESULTS ARE NOT BECAUSE OF MERCURY AS EXPLAINED ABOVE. IF YOU HAD

WORN EMERALD DURING ITS SUB PERIOD THEN, THE RESULT WOULD HAVE BEEN

CERTAINLY POSITIVE.

MERCURY IS NOT MALEFIC FOR YOU BUT WEAK DUE TO ITS PLACEEMNT AND

DEBILITATION IN 8TH HOUSE OF YOUR CHART. THEREFORE, IT IS CONSIDERED WEAK.

IT IS GOOD THAT YOU STRENGTHEN IT. HOPE YOU ARE WEARING IT IN A GOLD IN

YOUR LITTLE RIGHT HAND FINGER NOT IN SILVER .

 

 

>

>Regards,

>

>Neeraj Gupta

>

>gjlist, "fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...>

>wrote:

> > Hello dear Neeraj,

> >

> > Hope this finds you in the best of your health and spirit. At

>present you

> > are in the sub-period of Venus in the main period of Sat. which was

>started

> > on Dec.22,2003 and will run till Dec.15,2006 as per your birth

>details

> > below. It appears good period because the strong and well placed

>Venus is

> > ruling the 10th and 3rd. house from the 9th house of future

>fortune in your

> > chart . No doubt the benefic main period lord Sat. well placed in

>the ASDT.

> > is weak due to infancy and debilated in Navamsa. That is why you

>are

> > enjoying and having fun. I suggest you may look into wearing a

>good quality

> > Neelam on an auspicious elected time.

> >

> > Your Sat./Me. period was started in Mar, 2000 and finished June

>09,2002.

> > Are you saying that during that period you also had good results ?

> >

> > Best wishes.............................Amar Puri.

> >

> >

> > >Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000>

> > >gjlist

> > >GJ <gjlist>, SJC

><>, VA

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> > >CC: harsha@m...

> > >[GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with good results? How??

> > >Mon, 22 Mar 2004 00:33:33 -0800 (PST)

> > >

> > >~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > >

> > >Respected Gurus and Senior Members,

> > >

> > >I have one query. Can a combusted, debiliated planet

> > >placed in a dusthana with a malefic give good results?

> > >I have mercury placed in 8th house from lagna, it is

> > >both debiliated, combusted and placed with a malefic

> > >(ketu) but still mercury periods are very good. Even

> > >in AD and PD periods, I can feel very good effect.

> > >Like I am going through Saturn MD, so most of the time

> > >there are some problems or tensions, but in periods of

> > >mercury, I feel very good. The effect is good in terms

> > >of relationships, money, career and mental peace. I am

> > >unable to find exact reason till now, but here is list

> > >of possible causes.

> > >

> > >1) Mercury is both retro + debiliated, so it can give

> > >some results of exalted planet.

> > >

> > >2) It is Lord of D-9, D-5 and D-16 and placed in a

> > >dusthana, so malefic effect is cancelled. Just a

> > >thought emerged from my mind, it may sound silly.

> > >

> > >3) Mercury is placed in its own star revati.

> > >

> > >4) Mercury is lord of 2nd house (money) and 11th house

> > >(gains)

> > >

> > >5) There is parivartana yoga between 8th lord jupiter

> > >and 11th lord mercury, so due to jupiter I am getting

> > >these results.

> > >

> > >6) Mercury is my AK.

> > >

> > >

> > >But I am curious to know, what exactly is the reason

> > >behind mercury being so good to me. So I request gurus

> > >and senior members to kindly clear my doubt. I have

> > >got made one emerald pendant and will be wearing it

> > >this wednesday, and would see, if something goes

> > >positive.

> > >

> > >For your reference, here are my birth details

> > >

> > >D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > >P.o.B - New Delhi, India

> > >T.o.B - 3:31:58 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >Thanks and Regards,

> > >

> > >Neeraj Gupta

> > >

> > >=====

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> > >

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Of course, Mercury rules trades, business, and 8th is the house of

intution. So that's true and very logical. But to see if the intution

will bring any gain, see the influence of Jupiter, 2nd lord, 11th

lord etc., or even a well placed Saturn can do so. Any planet in 8th

(Or even in 6th) can cause depression. A bad Mercury in 8th can cause

nervous problems, do you have so? In my own research it can sometimes

cause being misguided by people and losing smartness and destructions

of plans in all sudden. And it can sometimes cause even an

inclination towards suicidal. Do not mean about you, just what I have

observed and understood in my experiments.

 

Tanvir.

 

gjlist, "cynthianovak" <cynthianovak@s...>

wrote:

> Dear Nicholas

> I hope you have been well.

>

> I have seen this with Mercury in the 8th myself. I have also seen

it

> manifest as a gut-level intuition regarding business and financial

matters.

> Have seen it with the lord of the 11th manifest in inheritance that

is

> substantial.

>

> The dark side I have seen, but do not mean that this is always

true, is

> depression. Thoughts turn dark.

>

> cynthia

>

>

>

>

> Nicholas [jyotish108@h...]

> Monday, March 22, 2004 4:37 AM

> gjlist

> Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with good results?

How??

>

>

> Dear Neeraj

> Couple of quick comments in my experience

> Mercury has some affinity with the 8th house and is the planet that

is least

> harmed there . It is good for esoteric knowledge .

> Retrograde exalted or debilitated planets behave very strangely .

> The exchange between the 8th and 11th is a peculiar one that might

at times

> bring windfalls .Jupiter is also quite strong in the chart and

forms a hamsa

> yoga in the navamsa .

> Nicholas

>

> -

> "Neeraj Gupta" <gupta_neeraj_2000>

> "GJ" <gjlist>; "SJC"

<>;

> "VA" <vedic astrology>

> Cc: <harsha@m...>

> Monday, March 22, 2004 4:33 PM

> [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with good results? How??

>

>

> > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> >

> > Respected Gurus and Senior Members,

> >

> > I have one query. Can a combusted, debiliated planet

> > placed in a dusthana with a malefic give good results?

> > I have mercury placed in 8th house from lagna, it is

> > both debiliated, combusted and placed with a malefic

> > (ketu) but still mercury periods are very good. Even

> > in AD and PD periods, I can feel very good effect.

> > Like I am going through Saturn MD, so most of the time

> > there are some problems or tensions, but in periods of

> > mercury, I feel very good. The effect is good in terms

> > of relationships, money, career and mental peace. I am

> > unable to find exact reason till now, but here is list

> > of possible causes.

> >

> > 1) Mercury is both retro + debiliated, so it can give

> > some results of exalted planet.

> >

> > 2) It is Lord of D-9, D-5 and D-16 and placed in a

> > dusthana, so malefic effect is cancelled. Just a

> > thought emerged from my mind, it may sound silly.

> >

> > 3) Mercury is placed in its own star revati.

> >

> > 4) Mercury is lord of 2nd house (money) and 11th house

> > (gains)

> >

> > 5) There is parivartana yoga between 8th lord jupiter

> > and 11th lord mercury, so due to jupiter I am getting

> > these results.

> >

> > 6) Mercury is my AK.

> >

> >

> > But I am curious to know, what exactly is the reason

> > behind mercury being so good to me. So I request gurus

> > and senior members to kindly clear my doubt. I have

> > got made one emerald pendant and will be wearing it

> > this wednesday, and would see, if something goes

> > positive.

> >

> > For your reference, here are my birth details

> >

> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > P.o.B - New Delhi, India

> > T.o.B - 3:31:58 PM

> >

> >

> > Thanks and Regards,

> >

> > Neeraj Gupta

> >

> > =====

> > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/

> >

> >

> >

> > Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.

> > http://taxes./filing.html

> >

> >

> >

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~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Dear Amar,

 

How can saturn be a benefic planet for me. I follow

parashara system. Here are my points.

 

1) Saturn is the most malefic planet for leo lagna.

2) It is lord of 6th (Worries, tensions, problems etc)

and Lord of 7th (Markesh) house.

3) It is placed in inmical sign (i.e. Leo)

4) Saturn is aspecting my 3rd, 7th (Spouse, Business),

and 10th (Career) houses.

 

I have tried wearing neelam in past as per

recommendation of one astrologer. He asked me to wear

neelam to lessen the effects of sadhesati. As we all

know neelam is very reactive stone (in terms of

results) and I wored it for approx 1 month (that was

first phase of sadhesati). I was having no source of

income at that time to be very frank. Somehow one

morning, I had some intuition from within that I

should take off neelam. I took of neelam at 9:00-9:30

in morning and by 1:00 clock, I got 3 tuitions (same

day) and my source of income was ready.

 

Though, I have always loved neelam, I like its light

blue color, but that doesn't suits me. So presently I

am just wearing a ruby and emerald.

 

Could you kindly explain, how you find Saturn as my

benefic planet. I may be wrong or there are some

concepts that are unknown to me. A explanation from

your side would be highly appreciated.

 

As per my observation, Mercury PD's are going good,

now I have made an excel chart for last couple of

months and I Jot down all the happenings, date and

dasha running at the time, so that I can predict

better for future. My Sat-Sat was good period overall,

sat-sat-mer was very good. Sat-Ketu-Mer was good.

Sat-mer-mer was exceptionally good and period went

good till sat-mer-sun. Then after that it was a bad

period started up lightly (with less problems) and

then it took off everything from my life (guess that's

the way sadhesati do in first phase). Sat-Ket-Mer was

again then a very good period. I must admit that just

when Sat-Ket-Mer Started (26th October 2003), it was

diwali that day and I had gone to temple with my

mother. I lighted a lamp near shanidev and within a

week, almost most of the problems were solved. I

consider this as blessings from shanidev and

regualarly light lamp on Saturday evening. Now even I

have job (a ok job, not much money, but no pressure,

overall happy and *almost* satisfied, though I would

like to increase on monetary part, everything else is

OK).

 

Sat-Ven period, its like forcing me to increase my

earnings. I jumped into share market. Now my family

members and my relatives and me also (may be motivated

or directed by them) want to change my job to get more

money.

 

So having said all this, I guess, there are some

differences in our approach or understanding and I

would like to learn / share the knowledge.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

 

Thanks and Regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

--- fas fas <foreignersassistance wrote:

> Hello dear Neeraj,

>

> Please read my reply in CAP. appended below your

> message.

>

> Best wishes...............Amar Puri.

>

>

> >"Neeraj" <gupta_neeraj_2000

> >gjlist

> >gjlist

> >Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with

> good results? How??

> >Mon, 05 Apr 2004 11:06:47 -0000

> >

> >~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> >

> >Dear Amar Ji,

> >Thanks for your reply and sorry for replying late.

> As I was getting

> >too many mails in my mail box, so I changed the

> setting to "No

> >Emails".

> >

> > >

> > > Your Sat./Me. period was started in Mar, 2000

> and finished June

> >09,2002.

> > > Are you saying that during that period you also

> had good results ?

> >

> >No, this period was not all good for me, I had good

> period till

> >April, 14 2001, then it was a bad period.

>

> SO, YOU AGREED THAT MERCURY PERIOD WAS NOT GOOD.

>

>

> Mercury PD's are going

> >good. Then again good period in Oct, 2003 - till

> now.

>

> IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF MERCURY PD'S IS GOING GOOD

> RATHER IT IS THE STRONG

> BENEFIC SUB PERIOD LORD VENUS IN THE MAIN PERIOD

> BENEFIC LORD SATURN IS

> GIVING YOU GOOD RESULTS, AND YOU ARE ENJOYING AND

> HAVING GOOD TIME.

> >

> >

> >Why you suggested for wearing a neelam. Saturn is

> Lord of 6th and 7th

> >in D-1.

>

> THE REASON BEING YOUR MAIN PERIOD BENEFIC LORD IS

> WEAK DUE TO DEBILITATED IN

> NAVAMSA, INFANCY STAGE AND WEAK DISPOSITOR. BY

> WEARING NEELAM 4.77 CARAT IN

> GOLD IN MIDDLE FINGER OF LEFT HAND ON AN AUSPICIOUS

> ELECTED TIME CAN BE

> STRENGTHENED AND FRUITFUL.

> So, according to me, it will give troubles to me. I

> had worn

> >neelam in mid 2001, but it gave me negative

> effects. Even I had tried

> >the substitute of Neelam (Lajward), that too didn't

> suited.

>

> THE NEELAM SHOULD NOT GIVE YOU ANY NEGATIVE EFFECTS

> IF YOU WEAR IT IN

> ACCORDANCE WITH THE ABOVE WITHOUT THE PEARL OR GOMAD

> OR CATS EYE STONE.

> SATURN IS A BENEFIC PLANET FOR YOUR CHART.

>

> LET ME POINT OUT OTHER WEAK BENEFIC PLANETS IN YOUR

> CHART ARE MARS

> 12H.DEBILITATION AND SUN IN INFANCY BUT GOOD

> PLACEMENT. VENUS GOOD

> PLACEMENT BUT WEAK DISPOSITOR.

> THE ONLY MALEFICS ARE MOON, RAHU AND KETU WHICH YOU

> MUST PROPITIATE

> REGULARLY. I AM SURE YOU KNOW HOW ?

> >

> >Now as per my experience and little knowledge of

> Astrology, I had

> >worn emerald 10 days back, and till now it is

> giving good results.

>

> THE GOOD RESULTS ARE NOT BECAUSE OF MERCURY AS

> EXPLAINED ABOVE. IF YOU HAD

> WORN EMERALD DURING ITS SUB PERIOD THEN, THE RESULT

> WOULD HAVE BEEN

> CERTAINLY POSITIVE.

> MERCURY IS NOT MALEFIC FOR YOU BUT WEAK DUE TO ITS

> PLACEEMNT AND

> DEBILITATION IN 8TH HOUSE OF YOUR CHART. THEREFORE,

> IT IS CONSIDERED WEAK.

> IT IS GOOD THAT YOU STRENGTHEN IT. HOPE YOU ARE

> WEARING IT IN A GOLD IN

> YOUR LITTLE RIGHT HAND FINGER NOT IN SILVER .

>

>

> >

> >Regards,

> >

> >Neeraj Gupta

> >

> >gjlist, "fas fas"

> <foreignersassistance@h...>

> >wrote:

> > > Hello dear Neeraj,

> > >

> > > Hope this finds you in the best of your health

> and spirit. At

> >present you

> > > are in the sub-period of Venus in the main

> period of Sat. which was

> >started

> > > on Dec.22,2003 and will run till Dec.15,2006 as

> per your birth

> >details

> > > below. It appears good period because the

> strong and well placed

> >Venus is

> > > ruling the 10th and 3rd. house from the 9th

> house of future

> >fortune in your

> > > chart . No doubt the benefic main period lord

> Sat. well placed in

> >the ASDT.

> > > is weak due to infancy and debilated in Navamsa.

> That is why you

> >are

> > > enjoying and having fun. I suggest you may look

> into wearing a

> >good quality

> > > Neelam on an auspicious elected time.

> > >

> > > Your Sat./Me. period was started in Mar, 2000

> and finished June

> >09,2002.

> > > Are you saying that during that period you also

> had good results ?

> > >

> > > Best wishes.............................Amar

> Puri.

> > >

> > >

> > > >Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000>

> > > >gjlist

> > > >GJ <gjlist>, SJC

> ><>, VA

> > > ><vedic astrology>

> > > >CC: harsha@m...

> > > >[GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with

> good results? How??

> > > >Mon, 22 Mar 2004 00:33:33 -0800 (PST)

> > > >

> > > >~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > > >

> > > >Respected Gurus and Senior Members,

> > > >

> > > >I have one query. Can a combusted, debiliated

> planet

> > > >placed in a dusthana with a malefic give good

> results?

> > > >I have mercury placed in 8th house from lagna,

> it is

> > > >both debiliated, combusted and placed with a

> malefic

> > > >(ketu) but still mercury periods are very good.

> Even

> > > >in AD and PD periods, I can feel very good

> effect.

> > > >Like I am going through Saturn MD, so most of

> the time

> > > >there are some problems or tensions, but in

> periods of

> > > >mercury, I feel very good. The effect is good

> in terms

> > > >of relationships, money, career and mental

> peace. I am

> > > >unable to find exact reason till now, but here

> is list

> > > >of possible causes.

> > > >

> > > >1) Mercury is both retro + debiliated, so it

> can give

> > > >some results of exalted planet.

> > > >

> > > >2) It is Lord of D-9, D-5 and D-16 and placed

> in a

> > > >dusthana, so malefic effect is cancelled. Just

> a

> > > >thought emerged from my mind, it may sound

> silly.

> > > >

> > > >3) Mercury is placed in its own star revati.

> > > >

> > > >4) Mercury is lord of 2nd house (money) and

> 11th house

>

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Hello Neeraj,

 

Please read again my reply in CAP. letters appended below your message ;

 

Best wishes.....................Amar Puri.

 

 

>Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000

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>Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with good results? How??

>Wed, 7 Apr 2004 00:57:33 -0700 (PDT)

>

>~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

>Dear Amar,

>

>How can saturn be a benefic planet for me. I follow

>parashara system. Here are my points.

>

>1) Saturn is the most malefic planet for leo lagna.

 

SATURN IS NOT MALEFIC FOR LEO LAGNA AS PER SA. BECAUSE SAT M/T SIGN FALLS IN

7TH HOUSE AND SATURN IS VERY WELL PLACED IN YOUR LAGNA BUT IN INFENCY.

PLEASE READ YOUR OWN WRITING BELOW IN WHICH YOU HAVE ADMITTED SATURN PERIOD

OVER ALL IS/WAS VERY GOOD.

 

>2) It is lord of 6th (Worries, tensions, problems etc)

>and Lord of 7th (Markesh) house.

 

PLEASE READ ABOVE.

>3) It is placed in inmical sign (i.e. Leo)

 

SEE ABOVE.

 

>4) Saturn is aspecting my 3rd, 7th (Spouse, Business),

>and 10th (Career) houses.

 

THE ABOVE ASPECT IS HELPFUL BECAUSE SATURN IS A BENEFIC PLANET IN YOUR

CHART.

>

>I have tried wearing neelam in past as per

>recommendation of one astrologer. He asked me to wear

>neelam to lessen the effects of sadhesati. As we all

>know neelam is very reactive stone (in terms of

>results) and I wored it for approx 1 month (that was

>first phase of sadhesati).

 

DID YOU WEAR NEELAM IN GOLD IN MIDDLE FINGER OF LEFT HAND ON AN AUSPICIOUS

ELECTED TIME ?

 

WHAT KIND OF BAD OR NEGATIVE REACTION DID YOU EXPERIENCE ?

 

 

 

I was having no source of

>income at that time to be very frank. Somehow one

>morning, I had some intuition from within that I

>should take off neelam. I took of neelam at 9:00-9:30

>in morning and by 1:00 clock, I got 3 tuitions (same

>day) and my source of income was ready.

 

PLEASE DESCRIBE WHAT PERIOD IT WAS WHEN YOU HAD THE INTUITION TO REMOVE IT

AND HAD NO INCOME ?

>

>Though, I have always loved neelam, I like its light

>blue color, but that doesn't suits me.

 

WHAT TYPE OF NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE DID YOU HAVE WHEN YOU DID WEAR NEELAM ?

 

 

So presently I

>am just wearing a ruby and emerald.

 

IT IS GOOD. HOPE YOU ARE WEARING RUBY IN GOLD IN YOUR LEFT HAND RING FINGER

AND EMERALD IN GOLD IN YOUR RIGHT HAND LITTLE FINGER .

>

>Could you kindly explain, how you find Saturn as my

>benefic planet. I may be wrong or there are some

>concepts that are unknown to me. A explanation from

>your side would be highly appreciated.

 

AS PER SA. CONCEPT, SATURN IS A BENEFIC PLANET FOR LEO LAGNA. IN YOUR

CHART, SATURN IS IN INFENCY, THEREFORE, YOU NEED TO STRENGTHEN IT AS

EXPLAINED TO YOU IN MY PREVIOUS POST.

>

>As per my observation, Mercury PD's are going good,

>now I have made an excel chart for last couple of

>months and I Jot down all the happenings, date and

>dasha running at the time, so that I can predict

>better for future.

 

AS I EXPLAINED TO YOU IN MY PREVIOUS POST THAT IT IS NOT MERCURY PD. RATHER

IT IS VENUS SUB PERIOD IN THE MAIN PERIOD OF SATURN.

 

My Sat-Sat was good period overall,

>sat-sat-mer was very good. Sat-Ketu-Mer was good.

>Sat-mer-mer was exceptionally good and period went

>good till sat-mer-sun. Then after that it was a bad

>period started up lightly (with less problems) and

>then it took off everything from my life (guess that's

>the way sadhesati do in first phase). Sat-Ket-Mer was

>again then a very good period.

 

AS PER YOUR OWN ABOVE STATEMENT, SATURN PERIOD IS/WAS GOOD FOR YOU. I FAIL

TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE CONTRADICTING TO YOURSELF ?

 

IS IT BECAUSE OF THE CONTRADICTING APPROACH/SYSTEM YOU ARE FOLLOWING OR

WHAT ?

 

I must admit that just

>when Sat-Ket-Mer Started (26th October 2003), it was

>diwali that day and I had gone to temple with my

>mother. I lighted a lamp near shanidev and within a

>week, almost most of the problems were solved. I

>consider this as blessings from shanidev and

>regualarly light lamp on Saturday evening. Now even I

>have job (a ok job, not much money, but no pressure,

>overall happy and *almost* satisfied, though I would

>like to increase on monetary part, everything else is

>OK).

 

THAT IS TRULY THE BLESSING OF LORD SATURN UPON YOU.

>

>Sat-Ven period, its like forcing me to increase my

>earnings. I jumped into share market. Now my family

>members and my relatives and me also (may be motivated

>or directed by them) want to change my job to get more

>money.

>

>So having said all this, I guess, there are some

>differences in our approach or understanding and I

>would like to learn / share the knowledge.

 

FEEL FREE TO ASK. WE ALL LEARN FROM EACH OTHER.

 

ALL THE BEST.

>

>Regards,

>

>Neeraj Gupta

>

>

>Thanks and Regards,

>

>Neeraj Gupta

>

>--- fas fas <foreignersassistance wrote:

> > Hello dear Neeraj,

> >

> > Please read my reply in CAP. appended below your

> > message.

> >

> > Best wishes...............Amar Puri.

> >

> >

> > >"Neeraj" <gupta_neeraj_2000

> > >gjlist

> > >gjlist

> > >Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with

> > good results? How??

> > >Mon, 05 Apr 2004 11:06:47 -0000

> > >

> > >~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > >

> > >Dear Amar Ji,

> > >Thanks for your reply and sorry for replying late.

> > As I was getting

> > >too many mails in my mail box, so I changed the

> > setting to "No

> > >Emails".

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Your Sat./Me. period was started in Mar, 2000

> > and finished June

> > >09,2002.

> > > > Are you saying that during that period you also

> > had good results ?

> > >

> > >No, this period was not all good for me, I had good

> > period till

> > >April, 14 2001, then it was a bad period.

> >

> > SO, YOU AGREED THAT MERCURY PERIOD WAS NOT GOOD.

> >

> >

> > Mercury PD's are going

> > >good. Then again good period in Oct, 2003 - till

> > now.

> >

> > IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF MERCURY PD'S IS GOING GOOD

> > RATHER IT IS THE STRONG

> > BENEFIC SUB PERIOD LORD VENUS IN THE MAIN PERIOD

> > BENEFIC LORD SATURN IS

> > GIVING YOU GOOD RESULTS, AND YOU ARE ENJOYING AND

> > HAVING GOOD TIME.

> > >

> > >

> > >Why you suggested for wearing a neelam. Saturn is

> > Lord of 6th and 7th

> > >in D-1.

> >

> > THE REASON BEING YOUR MAIN PERIOD BENEFIC LORD IS

> > WEAK DUE TO DEBILITATED IN

> > NAVAMSA, INFANCY STAGE AND WEAK DISPOSITOR. BY

> > WEARING NEELAM 4.77 CARAT IN

> > GOLD IN MIDDLE FINGER OF LEFT HAND ON AN AUSPICIOUS

> > ELECTED TIME CAN BE

> > STRENGTHENED AND FRUITFUL.

> > So, according to me, it will give troubles to me. I

> > had worn

> > >neelam in mid 2001, but it gave me negative

> > effects. Even I had tried

> > >the substitute of Neelam (Lajward), that too didn't

> > suited.

> >

> > THE NEELAM SHOULD NOT GIVE YOU ANY NEGATIVE EFFECTS

> > IF YOU WEAR IT IN

> > ACCORDANCE WITH THE ABOVE WITHOUT THE PEARL OR GOMAD

> > OR CATS EYE STONE.

> > SATURN IS A BENEFIC PLANET FOR YOUR CHART.

> >

> > LET ME POINT OUT OTHER WEAK BENEFIC PLANETS IN YOUR

> > CHART ARE MARS

> > 12H.DEBILITATION AND SUN IN INFANCY BUT GOOD

> > PLACEMENT. VENUS GOOD

> > PLACEMENT BUT WEAK DISPOSITOR.

> > THE ONLY MALEFICS ARE MOON, RAHU AND KETU WHICH YOU

> > MUST PROPITIATE

> > REGULARLY. I AM SURE YOU KNOW HOW ?

> > >

> > >Now as per my experience and little knowledge of

> > Astrology, I had

> > >worn emerald 10 days back, and till now it is

> > giving good results.

> >

> > THE GOOD RESULTS ARE NOT BECAUSE OF MERCURY AS

> > EXPLAINED ABOVE. IF YOU HAD

> > WORN EMERALD DURING ITS SUB PERIOD THEN, THE RESULT

> > WOULD HAVE BEEN

> > CERTAINLY POSITIVE.

> > MERCURY IS NOT MALEFIC FOR YOU BUT WEAK DUE TO ITS

> > PLACEEMNT AND

> > DEBILITATION IN 8TH HOUSE OF YOUR CHART. THEREFORE,

> > IT IS CONSIDERED WEAK.

> > IT IS GOOD THAT YOU STRENGTHEN IT. HOPE YOU ARE

> > WEARING IT IN A GOLD IN

> > YOUR LITTLE RIGHT HAND FINGER NOT IN SILVER .

> >

> >

> > >

> > >Regards,

> > >

> > >Neeraj Gupta

> > >

> > >gjlist, "fas fas"

> > <foreignersassistance@h...>

> > >wrote:

> > > > Hello dear Neeraj,

> > > >

> > > > Hope this finds you in the best of your health

> > and spirit. At

> > >present you

> > > > are in the sub-period of Venus in the main

> > period of Sat. which was

> > >started

> > > > on Dec.22,2003 and will run till Dec.15,2006 as

> > per your birth

> > >details

> > > > below. It appears good period because the

> > strong and well placed

> > >Venus is

> > > > ruling the 10th and 3rd. house from the 9th

> > house of future

> > >fortune in your

> > > > chart . No doubt the benefic main period lord

> > Sat. well placed in

> > >the ASDT.

> > > > is weak due to infancy and debilated in Navamsa.

> > That is why you

> > >are

> > > > enjoying and having fun. I suggest you may look

> > into wearing a

> > >good quality

> > > > Neelam on an auspicious elected time.

> > > >

> > > > Your Sat./Me. period was started in Mar, 2000

> > and finished June

> > >09,2002.

> > > > Are you saying that during that period you also

> > had good results ?

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes.............................Amar

> > Puri.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000>

> > > > >gjlist

> > > > >GJ <gjlist>, SJC

> > ><>, VA

> > > > ><vedic astrology>

> > > > >CC: harsha@m...

> > > > >[GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with

> > good results? How??

> > > > >Mon, 22 Mar 2004 00:33:33 -0800 (PST)

> > > > >

> > > > >~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > > > >

> > > > >Respected Gurus and Senior Members,

> > > > >

> > > > >I have one query. Can a combusted, debiliated

> > planet

> > > > >placed in a dusthana with a malefic give good

> > results?

> > > > >I have mercury placed in 8th house from lagna,

> > it is

> > > > >both debiliated, combusted and placed with a

> > malefic

> > > > >(ketu) but still mercury periods are very good.

> > Even

> > > > >in AD and PD periods, I can feel very good

> > effect.

> > > > >Like I am going through Saturn MD, so most of

> > the time

> > > > >there are some problems or tensions, but in

> > periods of

> > > > >mercury, I feel very good. The effect is good

> > in terms

> > > > >of relationships, money, career and mental

> > peace. I am

> > > > >unable to find exact reason till now, but here

> > is list

> > > > >of possible causes.

> > > > >

> > > > >1) Mercury is both retro + debiliated, so it

> > can give

> > > > >some results of exalted planet.

> > > > >

> > > > >2) It is Lord of D-9, D-5 and D-16 and placed

> > in a

> > > > >dusthana, so malefic effect is cancelled. Just

> > a

> > > > >thought emerged from my mind, it may sound

> > silly.

> > > > >

> > > > >3) Mercury is placed in its own star revati.

> > > > >

> > > > >4) Mercury is lord of 2nd house (money) and

> > 11th house

> >

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Contrary to Neeraj Gupta I just left Saturn/Mercury behind me - which was

> one of the darkest financial periods in my life (for more than 30 month)

but

> despite that I am as far away from any depression - on the contrary.

> I also have Debl. Mercury in the 8th as lord of 2nd and 11th aspecting the

> 2nd housing Moon, the 12th lord.

 

Dear Jay,

If you will kindly post your data to make me things more clearly.

Inder Jit Sahni, House No.1351-HIG, Model Town Phase-1

Bhatinda-151001 phone 0164-2211360

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Dear Amar,

 

Kindly find my replies in BLUE COLOR

 

--- fas fas <foreignersassistance wrote:

> Hello Neeraj,

>

> Please read again my reply in CAP. letters appended

> below your message ;

>

> Best wishes.....................Amar Puri.

>

>

> >Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000

> >gjlist

> >gjlist

> >Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with

> good results? How??

> >Wed, 7 Apr 2004 00:57:33 -0700 (PDT)

> >

> >~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> >

> >Dear Amar,

> >

> >How can saturn be a benefic planet for me. I follow

> >parashara system. Here are my points.

> >

> >1) Saturn is the most malefic planet for leo lagna.

>

> SATURN IS NOT MALEFIC FOR LEO LAGNA AS PER SA.

> BECAUSE SAT M/T SIGN FALLS IN

> 7TH HOUSE AND SATURN IS VERY WELL PLACED IN YOUR

> LAGNA BUT IN INFENCY.

> PLEASE READ YOUR OWN WRITING BELOW IN WHICH YOU HAVE

> ADMITTED SATURN PERIOD

> OVER ALL IS/WAS VERY GOOD.

 

I haven't studied SA approach till now, but would like to study it.

 

>

> >2) It is lord of 6th (Worries, tensions, problems

> etc)

> >and Lord of 7th (Markesh) house.

>

> PLEASE READ ABOVE.

> >3) It is placed in inmical sign (i.e. Leo)

>

> SEE ABOVE.

>

> >4) Saturn is aspecting my 3rd, 7th (Spouse,

> Business),

> >and 10th (Career) houses.

>

> THE ABOVE ASPECT IS HELPFUL BECAUSE SATURN IS A

> BENEFIC PLANET IN YOUR

> CHART.

If saturn aspect is good, then my relationships, business ( I did it for a few

months, a very small one) and my career till now is very bad. Despite being a

good education and 4 years of experience, I am just earning very low. Just hand

to mouth situation. and Saturn MD is running since Feb, 1997, so It should go in

positive direction.

> >

> >I have tried wearing neelam in past as per

> >recommendation of one astrologer. He asked me to

> wear

> >neelam to lessen the effects of sadhesati. As we

> all

> >know neelam is very reactive stone (in terms of

> >results) and I wored it for approx 1 month (that

> was

> >first phase of sadhesati).

>

> DID YOU WEAR NEELAM IN GOLD IN MIDDLE FINGER OF LEFT

> HAND ON AN AUSPICIOUS

> ELECTED TIME ?

 

No, I worn neelam in right hand middle finger in silver. I cannot afford to put

it in gold at that time. According to what I have studied till now, gems are

worn in right hand to increase the effect of planet and in left hand to decrease

the effect of planet (malefic). Yes I wored it on the auspicious time on

Saturday as told to me by local astrologer at that time. He was of the view that

as Sadhesati is a bad period for me, so it may reduce problems.

>

> WHAT KIND OF BAD OR NEGATIVE REACTION DID YOU

> EXPERIENCE ?

>

No Success in interviews, jobs, career. Difficulty in education and

relationships ofcourse were at worst during those times. The moment I took off

the Blue sapphire, I had a source of income ready in next 3-4 hours, so this

made me believe that neelam doesn't suit me.

>

>

> I was having no source of

> >income at that time to be very frank. Somehow one

> >morning, I had some intuition from within that I

> >should take off neelam. I took of neelam at

> 9:00-9:30

> >in morning and by 1:00 clock, I got 3 tuitions

> (same

> >day) and my source of income was ready.

>

> PLEASE DESCRIBE WHAT PERIOD IT WAS WHEN YOU HAD THE

> INTUITION TO REMOVE IT

> AND HAD NO INCOME ?

> >

It was june, 2002, sat-mer-sat when my source of income started, prior to that I

was having no source of income for say 6-8 months.

 

> >Though, I have always loved neelam, I like its

> light

> >blue color, but that doesn't suits me.

>

> WHAT TYPE OF NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE DID YOU HAVE WHEN

> YOU DID WEAR NEELAM ?

Already mentioned above

>

>

> So presently I

> >am just wearing a ruby and emerald.

>

> IT IS GOOD. HOPE YOU ARE WEARING RUBY IN GOLD IN

> YOUR LEFT HAND RING FINGER

> AND EMERALD IN GOLD IN YOUR RIGHT HAND LITTLE

> FINGER .

I am wearing ruby in Right hand finger in gold and emerald round my neck in

Silver.

 

> >

> >Could you kindly explain, how you find Saturn as my

> >benefic planet. I may be wrong or there are some

> >concepts that are unknown to me. A explanation from

> >your side would be highly appreciated.

>

> AS PER SA. CONCEPT, SATURN IS A BENEFIC PLANET FOR

> LEO LAGNA. IN YOUR

> CHART, SATURN IS IN INFENCY, THEREFORE, YOU NEED TO

> STRENGTHEN IT AS

> EXPLAINED TO YOU IN MY PREVIOUS POST.

> >

> >As per my observation, Mercury PD's are going good,

> >now I have made an excel chart for last couple of

> >months and I Jot down all the happenings, date and

> >dasha running at the time, so that I can predict

> >better for future.

>

> AS I EXPLAINED TO YOU IN MY PREVIOUS POST THAT IT IS

> NOT MERCURY PD. RATHER

> IT IS VENUS SUB PERIOD IN THE MAIN PERIOD OF SATURN.

I still say sat-ven-ven is not that good as sat-ket-mer, Sat-Ket-Mer was very

good and I was mentally at peace and happy. Even I got selected in one MNC (HCL

at double salary what I am getting now), but couldn't join as joining time was

very very less (less than 24 hours). I still sometimes think that it was a

opportunity that was missed by me. Mercury PD's have been good, not AD's. Don't

know how Mercury MD will be, but one thing I am sure of, that it would be on one

extreme (extremely good or extremely bad).

>

> My Sat-Sat was good period overall,

> >sat-sat-mer was very good. Sat-Ketu-Mer was good.

> >Sat-mer-mer was exceptionally good and period went

> >good till sat-mer-sun. Then after that it was a bad

> >period started up lightly (with less problems) and

> >then it took off everything from my life (guess

> that's

> >the way sadhesati do in first phase). Sat-Ket-Mer

> was

> >again then a very good period.

>

> AS PER YOUR OWN ABOVE STATEMENT, SATURN PERIOD

> IS/WAS GOOD FOR YOU. I FAIL

> TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE CONTRADICTING TO YOURSELF

> ?

I have found that (in some other charts also) that if a planet is malefic and

weak for a particular chart, then it's MD-AD is OK (if not good), so my sat-sat

was overall good. It was my study time, and I was one of the good students at my

institute.

 

>

> IS IT BECAUSE OF THE CONTRADICTING APPROACH/SYSTEM

> YOU ARE FOLLOWING OR

> WHAT ?

>

I follow by the book of Shri PVR ji which is based on Parashara and Jamini

(kindly note that both are not different, though some people have tried to view

it as different). Jamini has concept of Arudha Padas, which might be there in

Parashara's but the text is missing. This is told by Shri Sanjay Rath Ji also,

that if looked carefully, Parashara and Jamini are same.

 

> I must admit that just

> >when Sat-Ket-Mer Started (26th October 2003), it

> was

> >diwali that day and I had gone to temple with my

> >mother. I lighted a lamp near shanidev and within a

> >week, almost most of the problems were solved. I

> >consider this as blessings from shanidev and

> >regualarly light lamp on Saturday evening. Now even

> I

> >have job (a ok job, not much money, but no

> pressure,

> >overall happy and *almost* satisfied, though I

> would

> >like to increase on monetary part, everything else

> is

> >OK).

>

> THAT IS TRULY THE BLESSING OF LORD SATURN UPON YOU.

So, I still continue to go temple every saturday and sometimes (say once in 3-4

months) try to get Shani Pooja done at temple on saturdays.

> >

> >Sat-Ven period, its like forcing me to increase my

> >earnings. I jumped into share market. Now my family

> >members and my relatives and me also (may be

> motivated

> >or directed by them) want to change my job to get

> more

> >money.

> >

> >So having said all this, I guess, there are some

> >differences in our approach or understanding and I

> >would like to learn / share the knowledge.

>

> FEEL FREE TO ASK. WE ALL LEARN FROM EACH OTHER.

Yes, I too believe same, We all can learn from each other and by sharing our

experiences.

>

> ALL THE BEST.

> >

> >Regards,

> >

> >Neeraj Gupta

> >

> >

> >Thanks and Regards,

> >

> >Neeraj Gupta

> >

> >--- fas fas <foreignersassistance

> wrote:

> > > Hello dear Neeraj,

> > >

> > > Please read my reply in CAP. appended below your

> > > message.

> > >

> > > Best wishes...............Amar Puri.

> > >

> > >

> > > >"Neeraj" <gupta_neeraj_2000

> > > >gjlist

> > > >gjlist

> > > >Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet

> with

> > > good results? How??

> > > >Mon, 05 Apr 2004 11:06:47 -0000

> > > >

> > > >~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

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Hello dear Neeraj,

 

Hope this finds you in the best of your health and spirit. It appears from

your writing below that you have lots of confusion and contradiction in

interpretation of your chart. Please read my reply once again in CAP.

letters ;

 

YOU WROTE ;

>If saturn aspect is good, then my relationships, business ( I did it for a

>few months, a very small one) and my career till now is very bad. Despite

>being a good education and 4 years of experience, I am just earning very

>low. Just hand to mouth situation. and Saturn MD is running since Feb,

>1997, so It should go in positive direction.

 

MY REPLY ;

No doubt Saturn is benefic planet well placed in Lagna but it is in

infency and debilitated in Navamasa as I previously mentioned else where in

my post. Hence it is considered weak. That is why I suggested you strongly

that you must wear Neelam in Gold in middle finger of left hand on elected

auspicious time. But you wore the neelam in silver as per the advice of

some astrologer not knowing that by doing so you were strengthening the most

malefic planet MOON in your chart. Therefore, the results were unfavourable

because the metal silver is ruled by MOON. You know that Moon is the

fastest moving planet. The minutes you removed the silver ring, you saw

good results in couple of hours or so. Therefore, Saturn is not malefic for

you. Please read on more what you wrote ;

My Sat-Sat was good period overall,

> > >sat-sat-mer was very good. Sat-Ketu-Mer was good.

> > >Sat-mer-mer was exceptionally good and period went

> > >good till sat-mer-sun. Then after that it was a bad

> > >period started up lightly (with less problems) and

> > >then it took off everything from my life (guess

> > that's

> > >the way sadhesati do in first phase). Sat-Ket-Mer

> > was

> > >again then a very good period.

> >

> > AS PER YOUR OWN ABOVE STATEMENT, SATURN PERIOD

> > IS/WAS GOOD FOR YOU. I FAIL

> > TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE CONTRADICTING TO YOURSELF

> > ?

>I have found that (in some other charts also) that if a planet is malefic

>and weak for a particular chart, then it's MD-AD is OK (if not good), so my

>sat-sat was overall good. It was my study time, and I was one of the good

>students at my institute.

 

MALEFIC PLANETS PLAY ROLE OF MALEFIC IN ORDER TO GIVE RESULTS ACCORDING TO

OUR PREVIOUS KARMA. HOWEVER BY APPEASING (PROPITIATING) THE MALEFICS AND

STRENGTHENING THE WEAK BENEFIC PLANETS IT CAN HELP TO IMPROVE OUR KARMIC

REACTION ACCORDING TO ONE'S OWN CONVICTION.

 

 

YOU WROTE ;

So presently I

> > >am just wearing a ruby and emerald.

> >

> > IT IS GOOD. HOPE YOU ARE WEARING RUBY IN GOLD IN

> > YOUR LEFT HAND RING FINGER

> > AND EMERALD IN GOLD IN YOUR RIGHT HAND LITTLE

> > FINGER .

>I am wearing ruby in Right hand finger in gold and emerald round my neck in

>Silver.

 

MY REPLY ;

Please wear the ruby in gold in the left hand ring finger as mentioned

above. Remove the Silver from Emerald and put it in gold only. The reason

is by wearing gold you are strengthening the Sun which is exalted but in

infency. Don't wear any items of silver. No white color clothes etc.

because MOON is most malefic planet in your chart. You can wear Emerald in

gold in neck but if you have to wear a ring, please wear it in a little

finger of right hand on an auspicious elected time.

 

PLEASE READ ON MORE WHAT YOU WROTE ;

Sat-Ven period, its like forcing me to increase my

> > >earnings. I jumped into share market. Now my family

> > >members and my relatives and me also (may be

> > motivated

> > >or directed by them) want to change my job to get

> > more

> > >money.

> > >

> > >So having said all this, I guess, there are some

> > >differences in our approach or understanding and I

> > >would like to learn / share the knowledge.

 

MY REPLY ;

 

THE SUB PERIOD OF VENUS IN THE MAIN PERIOD OF SATURN IS THE RESULT OF WHAT

YOU HAVE MENTIONED ABOVE BECASUE VENUS CONJUCT 9TH HOUSE OF FUTURE FORTUNE

AND ASPECTING HER OWN M/T AT THE MOST EFFECTIVE POINT OF 3RD HOUSE OF

INITIATIVE AND COURGE WHICH GIVES YOU SOME GOOD INVESTMENT RESULT. ALSO,

MAKE A NOTE THAT YOUR VENUS NO DOUBT IT IS STRONG AND WELL PLACED BUT ITS

DISPOSITOR MARS IS WEAK DUE TO PLACEMENT IN 12TH HOUSE AND A CLOSE ASPECTED

BY KETU. WHAT I SUGGEST IS THAT YOU SHOULD ALSO THINK TO STRENGTHEN THE

MARS BY WEARING RED CORAL (MOONGA) 4.77 CARAT SO THAT IT MAY HELP YOU IN

TRANSIT.

 

 

DON'T YOU FORGET MERCURY IS THE MOST BENEFIC PLANET IN YOUR CHART BUT IT IS

PLACED IN 8TH HOUSE DEBILITED. THEREFORE, IT IS ALSO CONSIDERED WEAK. IF

YOU CONTINUE WEARING EMARALD IN SILVER, MY FRIEND, YOU ARE INVITING

UNFAVOURABLE AND UNDESIREABLE RESULTS IN YOUR LIFE.

 

BEGIN PROPITIATING MOON, RAHU AND KETU IMMEDIATELY AND STRENGTHEN THE WEAK

BENEFIC PLANETS, I CAN ASSURE YOU BY THE GRACE OF GOD EVERYTHING SHALL BE OK

EVEN IN THE MERCURY PERIOD YOU WILL BE PROSPEROUS IF YOU FOLLOW THE ABOVE.

 

GOD BLESS. BEST WISHES................................AMAR PURI.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

>Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000

>gjlist

>gjlist

>Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with good results? How??

>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 01:23:19 -0700 (PDT)

>

>Dear Amar,

>

>Kindly find my replies in BLUE COLOR

>

>--- fas fas <foreignersassistance wrote:

> > Hello Neeraj,

> >

> > Please read again my reply in CAP. letters appended

> > below your message ;

> >

> > Best wishes.....................Amar Puri.

> >

> >

> > >Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000

> > >gjlist

> > >gjlist

> > >Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with

> > good results? How??

> > >Wed, 7 Apr 2004 00:57:33 -0700 (PDT)

> > >

> > >~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > >

> > >Dear Amar,

> > >

> > >How can saturn be a benefic planet for me. I follow

> > >parashara system. Here are my points.

> > >

> > >1) Saturn is the most malefic planet for leo lagna.

> >

> > SATURN IS NOT MALEFIC FOR LEO LAGNA AS PER SA.

> > BECAUSE SAT M/T SIGN FALLS IN

> > 7TH HOUSE AND SATURN IS VERY WELL PLACED IN YOUR

> > LAGNA BUT IN INFENCY.

> > PLEASE READ YOUR OWN WRITING BELOW IN WHICH YOU HAVE

> > ADMITTED SATURN PERIOD

> > OVER ALL IS/WAS VERY GOOD.

>

>I haven't studied SA approach till now, but would like to study it.

>

> >

> > >2) It is lord of 6th (Worries, tensions, problems

> > etc)

> > >and Lord of 7th (Markesh) house.

> >

> > PLEASE READ ABOVE.

> > >3) It is placed in inmical sign (i.e. Leo)

> >

> > SEE ABOVE.

> >

> > >4) Saturn is aspecting my 3rd, 7th (Spouse,

> > Business),

> > >and 10th (Career) houses.

> >

> > THE ABOVE ASPECT IS HELPFUL BECAUSE SATURN IS A

> > BENEFIC PLANET IN YOUR

> > CHART.

>If saturn aspect is good, then my relationships, business ( I did it for a

>few months, a very small one) and my career till now is very bad. Despite

>being a good education and 4 years of experience, I am just earning very

>low. Just hand to mouth situation. and Saturn MD is running since Feb,

>1997, so It should go in positive direction.

> > >

> > >I have tried wearing neelam in past as per

> > >recommendation of one astrologer. He asked me to

> > wear

> > >neelam to lessen the effects of sadhesati. As we

> > all

> > >know neelam is very reactive stone (in terms of

> > >results) and I wored it for approx 1 month (that

> > was

> > >first phase of sadhesati).

> >

> > DID YOU WEAR NEELAM IN GOLD IN MIDDLE FINGER OF LEFT

> > HAND ON AN AUSPICIOUS

> > ELECTED TIME ?

>

>No, I worn neelam in right hand middle finger in silver. I cannot afford to

>put it in gold at that time. According to what I have studied till now,

>gems are worn in right hand to increase the effect of planet and in left

>hand to decrease the effect of planet (malefic). Yes I wored it on the

>auspicious time on Saturday as told to me by local astrologer at that time.

>He was of the view that as Sadhesati is a bad period for me, so it may

>reduce problems.

> >

> > WHAT KIND OF BAD OR NEGATIVE REACTION DID YOU

> > EXPERIENCE ?

> >

>No Success in interviews, jobs, career. Difficulty in education and

>relationships ofcourse were at worst during those times. The moment I took

>off the Blue sapphire, I had a source of income ready in next 3-4 hours, so

>this made me believe that neelam doesn't suit me.

> >

> >

> > I was having no source of

> > >income at that time to be very frank. Somehow one

> > >morning, I had some intuition from within that I

> > >should take off neelam. I took of neelam at

> > 9:00-9:30

> > >in morning and by 1:00 clock, I got 3 tuitions

> > (same

> > >day) and my source of income was ready.

> >

> > PLEASE DESCRIBE WHAT PERIOD IT WAS WHEN YOU HAD THE

> > INTUITION TO REMOVE IT

> > AND HAD NO INCOME ?

> > >

>It was june, 2002, sat-mer-sat when my source of income started, prior to

>that I was having no source of income for say 6-8 months.

>

> > >Though, I have always loved neelam, I like its

> > light

> > >blue color, but that doesn't suits me.

> >

> > WHAT TYPE OF NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE DID YOU HAVE WHEN

> > YOU DID WEAR NEELAM ?

>Already mentioned above

> >

> >

> > So presently I

> > >am just wearing a ruby and emerald.

> >

> > IT IS GOOD. HOPE YOU ARE WEARING RUBY IN GOLD IN

> > YOUR LEFT HAND RING FINGER

> > AND EMERALD IN GOLD IN YOUR RIGHT HAND LITTLE

> > FINGER .

>I am wearing ruby in Right hand finger in gold and emerald round my neck in

>Silver.

>

> > >

> > >Could you kindly explain, how you find Saturn as my

> > >benefic planet. I may be wrong or there are some

> > >concepts that are unknown to me. A explanation from

> > >your side would be highly appreciated.

> >

> > AS PER SA. CONCEPT, SATURN IS A BENEFIC PLANET FOR

> > LEO LAGNA. IN YOUR

> > CHART, SATURN IS IN INFENCY, THEREFORE, YOU NEED TO

> > STRENGTHEN IT AS

> > EXPLAINED TO YOU IN MY PREVIOUS POST.

> > >

> > >As per my observation, Mercury PD's are going good,

> > >now I have made an excel chart for last couple of

> > >months and I Jot down all the happenings, date and

> > >dasha running at the time, so that I can predict

> > >better for future.

> >

> > AS I EXPLAINED TO YOU IN MY PREVIOUS POST THAT IT IS

> > NOT MERCURY PD. RATHER

> > IT IS VENUS SUB PERIOD IN THE MAIN PERIOD OF SATURN.

>I still say sat-ven-ven is not that good as sat-ket-mer, Sat-Ket-Mer was

>very good and I was mentally at peace and happy. Even I got selected in one

>MNC (HCL at double salary what I am getting now), but couldn't join as

>joining time was very very less (less than 24 hours). I still sometimes

>think that it was a opportunity that was missed by me. Mercury PD's have

>been good, not AD's. Don't know how Mercury MD will be, but one thing I am

>sure of, that it would be on one extreme (extremely good or extremely bad).

> >

> > My Sat-Sat was good period overall,

> > >sat-sat-mer was very good. Sat-Ketu-Mer was good.

> > >Sat-mer-mer was exceptionally good and period went

> > >good till sat-mer-sun. Then after that it was a bad

> > >period started up lightly (with less problems) and

> > >then it took off everything from my life (guess

> > that's

> > >the way sadhesati do in first phase). Sat-Ket-Mer

> > was

> > >again then a very good period.

> >

> > AS PER YOUR OWN ABOVE STATEMENT, SATURN PERIOD

> > IS/WAS GOOD FOR YOU. I FAIL

> > TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE CONTRADICTING TO YOURSELF

> > ?

>I have found that (in some other charts also) that if a planet is malefic

>and weak for a particular chart, then it's MD-AD is OK (if not good), so my

>sat-sat was overall good. It was my study time, and I was one of the good

>students at my institute.

>

> >

> > IS IT BECAUSE OF THE CONTRADICTING APPROACH/SYSTEM

> > YOU ARE FOLLOWING OR

> > WHAT ?

> >

>I follow by the book of Shri PVR ji which is based on Parashara and Jamini

>(kindly note that both are not different, though some people have tried to

>view it as different). Jamini has concept of Arudha Padas, which might be

>there in Parashara's but the text is missing. This is told by Shri Sanjay

>Rath Ji also, that if looked carefully, Parashara and Jamini are same.

>

> > I must admit that just

> > >when Sat-Ket-Mer Started (26th October 2003), it

> > was

> > >diwali that day and I had gone to temple with my

> > >mother. I lighted a lamp near shanidev and within a

> > >week, almost most of the problems were solved. I

> > >consider this as blessings from shanidev and

> > >regualarly light lamp on Saturday evening. Now even

> > I

> > >have job (a ok job, not much money, but no

> > pressure,

> > >overall happy and *almost* satisfied, though I

> > would

> > >like to increase on monetary part, everything else

> > is

> > >OK).

> >

> > THAT IS TRULY THE BLESSING OF LORD SATURN UPON YOU.

>So, I still continue to go temple every saturday and sometimes (say once in

>3-4 months) try to get Shani Pooja done at temple on saturdays.

> > >

> > >Sat-Ven period, its like forcing me to increase my

> > >earnings. I jumped into share market. Now my family

> > >members and my relatives and me also (may be

> > motivated

> > >or directed by them) want to change my job to get

> > more

> > >money.

> > >

> > >So having said all this, I guess, there are some

> > >differences in our approach or understanding and I

> > >would like to learn / share the knowledge.

> >

> > FEEL FREE TO ASK. WE ALL LEARN FROM EACH OTHER.

>Yes, I too believe same, We all can learn from each other and by sharing

>our experiences.

> >

> > ALL THE BEST.

> > >

> > >Regards,

> > >

> > >Neeraj Gupta

> > >

> > >

> > >Thanks and Regards,

> > >

> > >Neeraj Gupta

> > >

> > >--- fas fas <foreignersassistance

> > wrote:

> > > > Hello dear Neeraj,

> > > >

> > > > Please read my reply in CAP. appended below your

> > > > message.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes...............Amar Puri.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >"Neeraj" <gupta_neeraj_2000

> > > > >gjlist

> > > > >gjlist

> > > > >Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet

> > with

> > > > good results? How??

> > > > >Mon, 05 Apr 2004 11:06:47 -0000

> > > > >

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~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Dear Amar,

 

Thanks for your comments. Just one question. Why Ruby

in left hand and not in right hand.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

--- fas fas <foreignersassistance wrote:

> Hello dear Neeraj,

>

> Hope this finds you in the best of your health and

> spirit. It appears from

> your writing below that you have lots of confusion

> and contradiction in

> interpretation of your chart. Please read my reply

> once again in CAP.

> letters ;

>

> YOU WROTE ;

> >If saturn aspect is good, then my relationships,

> business ( I did it for a

> >few months, a very small one) and my career till

> now is very bad. Despite

> >being a good education and 4 years of experience, I

> am just earning very

> >low. Just hand to mouth situation. and Saturn MD is

> running since Feb,

> >1997, so It should go in positive direction.

>

> MY REPLY ;

> No doubt Saturn is benefic planet well placed in

> Lagna but it is in

> infency and debilitated in Navamasa as I previously

> mentioned else where in

> my post. Hence it is considered weak. That is why

> I suggested you strongly

> that you must wear Neelam in Gold in middle finger

> of left hand on elected

> auspicious time. But you wore the neelam in silver

> as per the advice of

> some astrologer not knowing that by doing so you

> were strengthening the most

> malefic planet MOON in your chart. Therefore, the

> results were unfavourable

> because the metal silver is ruled by MOON. You know

> that Moon is the

> fastest moving planet. The minutes you removed the

> silver ring, you saw

> good results in couple of hours or so. Therefore,

> Saturn is not malefic for

> you. Please read on more what you wrote ;

> My Sat-Sat was good period overall,

> > > >sat-sat-mer was very good. Sat-Ketu-Mer was

> good.

> > > >Sat-mer-mer was exceptionally good and period

> went

> > > >good till sat-mer-sun. Then after that it was a

> bad

> > > >period started up lightly (with less problems)

> and

> > > >then it took off everything from my life (guess

> > > that's

> > > >the way sadhesati do in first phase).

> Sat-Ket-Mer

> > > was

> > > >again then a very good period.

> > >

> > > AS PER YOUR OWN ABOVE STATEMENT, SATURN PERIOD

> > > IS/WAS GOOD FOR YOU. I FAIL

> > > TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE CONTRADICTING TO

> YOURSELF

> > > ?

> >I have found that (in some other charts also) that

> if a planet is malefic

> >and weak for a particular chart, then it's MD-AD is

> OK (if not good), so my

> >sat-sat was overall good. It was my study time, and

> I was one of the good

> >students at my institute.

>

> MALEFIC PLANETS PLAY ROLE OF MALEFIC IN ORDER TO

> GIVE RESULTS ACCORDING TO

> OUR PREVIOUS KARMA. HOWEVER BY APPEASING

> (PROPITIATING) THE MALEFICS AND

> STRENGTHENING THE WEAK BENEFIC PLANETS IT CAN HELP

> TO IMPROVE OUR KARMIC

> REACTION ACCORDING TO ONE'S OWN CONVICTION.

>

>

> YOU WROTE ;

> So presently I

> > > >am just wearing a ruby and emerald.

> > >

> > > IT IS GOOD. HOPE YOU ARE WEARING RUBY IN GOLD IN

> > > YOUR LEFT HAND RING FINGER

> > > AND EMERALD IN GOLD IN YOUR RIGHT HAND LITTLE

> > > FINGER .

> >I am wearing ruby in Right hand finger in gold and

> emerald round my neck in

> >Silver.

>

> MY REPLY ;

> Please wear the ruby in gold in the left hand ring

> finger as mentioned

> above. Remove the Silver from Emerald and put it in

> gold only. The reason

> is by wearing gold you are strengthening the Sun

> which is exalted but in

> infency. Don't wear any items of silver. No white

> color clothes etc.

> because MOON is most malefic planet in your chart.

> You can wear Emerald in

> gold in neck but if you have to wear a ring, please

> wear it in a little

> finger of right hand on an auspicious elected time.

>

> PLEASE READ ON MORE WHAT YOU WROTE ;

> Sat-Ven period, its like forcing me to increase my

> > > >earnings. I jumped into share market. Now my

> family

> > > >members and my relatives and me also (may be

> > > motivated

> > > >or directed by them) want to change my job to

> get

> > > more

> > > >money.

> > > >

> > > >So having said all this, I guess, there are

> some

> > > >differences in our approach or understanding

> and I

> > > >would like to learn / share the knowledge.

>

> MY REPLY ;

>

> THE SUB PERIOD OF VENUS IN THE MAIN PERIOD OF SATURN

> IS THE RESULT OF WHAT

> YOU HAVE MENTIONED ABOVE BECASUE VENUS CONJUCT 9TH

> HOUSE OF FUTURE FORTUNE

> AND ASPECTING HER OWN M/T AT THE MOST EFFECTIVE

> POINT OF 3RD HOUSE OF

> INITIATIVE AND COURGE WHICH GIVES YOU SOME GOOD

> INVESTMENT RESULT. ALSO,

> MAKE A NOTE THAT YOUR VENUS NO DOUBT IT IS STRONG

> AND WELL PLACED BUT ITS

> DISPOSITOR MARS IS WEAK DUE TO PLACEMENT IN 12TH

> HOUSE AND A CLOSE ASPECTED

> BY KETU. WHAT I SUGGEST IS THAT YOU SHOULD ALSO

> THINK TO STRENGTHEN THE

> MARS BY WEARING RED CORAL (MOONGA) 4.77 CARAT SO

> THAT IT MAY HELP YOU IN

> TRANSIT.

>

>

> DON'T YOU FORGET MERCURY IS THE MOST BENEFIC PLANET

> IN YOUR CHART BUT IT IS

> PLACED IN 8TH HOUSE DEBILITED. THEREFORE, IT IS

> ALSO CONSIDERED WEAK. IF

> YOU CONTINUE WEARING EMARALD IN SILVER, MY FRIEND,

> YOU ARE INVITING

> UNFAVOURABLE AND UNDESIREABLE RESULTS IN YOUR LIFE.

>

> BEGIN PROPITIATING MOON, RAHU AND KETU IMMEDIATELY

> AND STRENGTHEN THE WEAK

> BENEFIC PLANETS, I CAN ASSURE YOU BY THE GRACE OF

> GOD EVERYTHING SHALL BE OK

> EVEN IN THE MERCURY PERIOD YOU WILL BE PROSPEROUS IF

> YOU FOLLOW THE ABOVE.

>

> GOD BLESS. BEST

> WISHES................................AMAR PURI.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000

> >gjlist

> >gjlist

> >Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with

> good results? How??

> >Tue, 13 Apr 2004 01:23:19 -0700 (PDT)

> >

> >Dear Amar,

> >

> >Kindly find my replies in BLUE COLOR

> >

> >--- fas fas <foreignersassistance

> wrote:

> > > Hello Neeraj,

> > >

> > > Please read again my reply in CAP. letters

> appended

> > > below your message ;

> > >

> > > Best wishes.....................Amar Puri.

> > >

> > >

> > > >Neeraj Gupta

> <gupta_neeraj_2000

> > > >gjlist

> > > >gjlist

> > > >Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet

> with

> > > good results? How??

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Namasthe!

 

Just wanted to share my thoughts. You have advised not to wear any

white clothes, because moon is Malefic. I feel wearing white clothes

will actually pacify moon.

 

Om Tat Sat,

 

Raman Suprajarama

 

gjlist, "fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...>

wrote:

> Hello dear Neeraj,

>

> Hope this finds you in the best of your health and spirit. It

appears from

> your writing below that you have lots of confusion and contradiction in

> interpretation of your chart. Please read my reply once again in CAP.

> letters ;

>

> YOU WROTE ;

> >If saturn aspect is good, then my relationships, business ( I did

it for a

> >few months, a very small one) and my career till now is very bad.

Despite

> >being a good education and 4 years of experience, I am just earning

very

> >low. Just hand to mouth situation. and Saturn MD is running since Feb,

> >1997, so It should go in positive direction.

>

> MY REPLY ;

> No doubt Saturn is benefic planet well placed in Lagna but it is in

> infency and debilitated in Navamasa as I previously mentioned else

where in

> my post. Hence it is considered weak. That is why I suggested you

strongly

> that you must wear Neelam in Gold in middle finger of left hand on

elected

> auspicious time. But you wore the neelam in silver as per the

advice of

> some astrologer not knowing that by doing so you were strengthening

the most

> malefic planet MOON in your chart. Therefore, the results were

unfavourable

> because the metal silver is ruled by MOON. You know that Moon is the

> fastest moving planet. The minutes you removed the silver ring, you

saw

> good results in couple of hours or so. Therefore, Saturn is not

malefic for

> you. Please read on more what you wrote ;

> My Sat-Sat was good period overall,

> > > >sat-sat-mer was very good. Sat-Ketu-Mer was good.

> > > >Sat-mer-mer was exceptionally good and period went

> > > >good till sat-mer-sun. Then after that it was a bad

> > > >period started up lightly (with less problems) and

> > > >then it took off everything from my life (guess

> > > that's

> > > >the way sadhesati do in first phase). Sat-Ket-Mer

> > > was

> > > >again then a very good period.

> > >

> > > AS PER YOUR OWN ABOVE STATEMENT, SATURN PERIOD

> > > IS/WAS GOOD FOR YOU. I FAIL

> > > TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE CONTRADICTING TO YOURSELF

> > > ?

> >I have found that (in some other charts also) that if a planet is

malefic

> >and weak for a particular chart, then it's MD-AD is OK (if not

good), so my

> >sat-sat was overall good. It was my study time, and I was one of

the good

> >students at my institute.

>

> MALEFIC PLANETS PLAY ROLE OF MALEFIC IN ORDER TO GIVE RESULTS

ACCORDING TO

> OUR PREVIOUS KARMA. HOWEVER BY APPEASING (PROPITIATING) THE

MALEFICS AND

> STRENGTHENING THE WEAK BENEFIC PLANETS IT CAN HELP TO IMPROVE OUR

KARMIC

> REACTION ACCORDING TO ONE'S OWN CONVICTION.

>

>

> YOU WROTE ;

> So presently I

> > > >am just wearing a ruby and emerald.

> > >

> > > IT IS GOOD. HOPE YOU ARE WEARING RUBY IN GOLD IN

> > > YOUR LEFT HAND RING FINGER

> > > AND EMERALD IN GOLD IN YOUR RIGHT HAND LITTLE

> > > FINGER .

> >I am wearing ruby in Right hand finger in gold and emerald round my

neck in

> >Silver.

>

> MY REPLY ;

> Please wear the ruby in gold in the left hand ring finger as mentioned

> above. Remove the Silver from Emerald and put it in gold only. The

reason

> is by wearing gold you are strengthening the Sun which is exalted

but in

> infency. Don't wear any items of silver. No white color clothes etc.

> because MOON is most malefic planet in your chart. You can wear

Emerald in

> gold in neck but if you have to wear a ring, please wear it in a little

> finger of right hand on an auspicious elected time.

>

> PLEASE READ ON MORE WHAT YOU WROTE ;

> Sat-Ven period, its like forcing me to increase my

> > > >earnings. I jumped into share market. Now my family

> > > >members and my relatives and me also (may be

> > > motivated

> > > >or directed by them) want to change my job to get

> > > more

> > > >money.

> > > >

> > > >So having said all this, I guess, there are some

> > > >differences in our approach or understanding and I

> > > >would like to learn / share the knowledge.

>

> MY REPLY ;

>

> THE SUB PERIOD OF VENUS IN THE MAIN PERIOD OF SATURN IS THE RESULT

OF WHAT

> YOU HAVE MENTIONED ABOVE BECASUE VENUS CONJUCT 9TH HOUSE OF FUTURE

FORTUNE

> AND ASPECTING HER OWN M/T AT THE MOST EFFECTIVE POINT OF 3RD HOUSE OF

> INITIATIVE AND COURGE WHICH GIVES YOU SOME GOOD INVESTMENT RESULT.

ALSO,

> MAKE A NOTE THAT YOUR VENUS NO DOUBT IT IS STRONG AND WELL PLACED

BUT ITS

> DISPOSITOR MARS IS WEAK DUE TO PLACEMENT IN 12TH HOUSE AND A CLOSE

ASPECTED

> BY KETU. WHAT I SUGGEST IS THAT YOU SHOULD ALSO THINK TO STRENGTHEN

THE

> MARS BY WEARING RED CORAL (MOONGA) 4.77 CARAT SO THAT IT MAY HELP

YOU IN

> TRANSIT.

>

>

> DON'T YOU FORGET MERCURY IS THE MOST BENEFIC PLANET IN YOUR CHART

BUT IT IS

> PLACED IN 8TH HOUSE DEBILITED. THEREFORE, IT IS ALSO CONSIDERED

WEAK. IF

> YOU CONTINUE WEARING EMARALD IN SILVER, MY FRIEND, YOU ARE INVITING

> UNFAVOURABLE AND UNDESIREABLE RESULTS IN YOUR LIFE.

>

> BEGIN PROPITIATING MOON, RAHU AND KETU IMMEDIATELY AND STRENGTHEN

THE WEAK

> BENEFIC PLANETS, I CAN ASSURE YOU BY THE GRACE OF GOD EVERYTHING

SHALL BE OK

> EVEN IN THE MERCURY PERIOD YOU WILL BE PROSPEROUS IF YOU FOLLOW THE

ABOVE.

>

> GOD BLESS. BEST WISHES................................AMAR PURI.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000>

> >gjlist

> >gjlist

> >Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with good results? How??

> >Tue, 13 Apr 2004 01:23:19 -0700 (PDT)

> >

> >Dear Amar,

> >

> >Kindly find my replies in BLUE COLOR

> >

> >--- fas fas <foreignersassistance@h...> wrote:

> > > Hello Neeraj,

> > >

> > > Please read again my reply in CAP. letters appended

> > > below your message ;

> > >

> > > Best wishes.....................Amar Puri.

> > >

> > >

> > > >Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000>

> > > >gjlist

> > > >gjlist

> > > >Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with

> > > good results? How??

> > > >Wed, 7 Apr 2004 00:57:33 -0700 (PDT)

> > > >

> > > >~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > > >

> > > >Dear Amar,

> > > >

> > > >How can saturn be a benefic planet for me. I follow

> > > >parashara system. Here are my points.

> > > >

> > > >1) Saturn is the most malefic planet for leo lagna.

> > >

> > > SATURN IS NOT MALEFIC FOR LEO LAGNA AS PER SA.

> > > BECAUSE SAT M/T SIGN FALLS IN

> > > 7TH HOUSE AND SATURN IS VERY WELL PLACED IN YOUR

> > > LAGNA BUT IN INFENCY.

> > > PLEASE READ YOUR OWN WRITING BELOW IN WHICH YOU HAVE

> > > ADMITTED SATURN PERIOD

> > > OVER ALL IS/WAS VERY GOOD.

> >

> >I haven't studied SA approach till now, but would like to study it.

> >

> > >

> > > >2) It is lord of 6th (Worries, tensions, problems

> > > etc)

> > > >and Lord of 7th (Markesh) house.

> > >

> > > PLEASE READ ABOVE.

> > > >3) It is placed in inmical sign (i.e. Leo)

> > >

> > > SEE ABOVE.

> > >

> > > >4) Saturn is aspecting my 3rd, 7th (Spouse,

> > > Business),

> > > >and 10th (Career) houses.

> > >

> > > THE ABOVE ASPECT IS HELPFUL BECAUSE SATURN IS A

> > > BENEFIC PLANET IN YOUR

> > > CHART.

> >If saturn aspect is good, then my relationships, business ( I did

it for a

> >few months, a very small one) and my career till now is very bad.

Despite

> >being a good education and 4 years of experience, I am just earning

very

> >low. Just hand to mouth situation. and Saturn MD is running since Feb,

> >1997, so It should go in positive direction.

> > > >

> > > >I have tried wearing neelam in past as per

> > > >recommendation of one astrologer. He asked me to

> > > wear

> > > >neelam to lessen the effects of sadhesati. As we

> > > all

> > > >know neelam is very reactive stone (in terms of

> > > >results) and I wored it for approx 1 month (that

> > > was

> > > >first phase of sadhesati).

> > >

> > > DID YOU WEAR NEELAM IN GOLD IN MIDDLE FINGER OF LEFT

> > > HAND ON AN AUSPICIOUS

> > > ELECTED TIME ?

> >

> >No, I worn neelam in right hand middle finger in silver. I cannot

afford to

> >put it in gold at that time. According to what I have studied till

now,

> >gems are worn in right hand to increase the effect of planet and in

left

> >hand to decrease the effect of planet (malefic). Yes I wored it on the

> >auspicious time on Saturday as told to me by local astrologer at

that time.

> >He was of the view that as Sadhesati is a bad period for me, so it may

> >reduce problems.

> > >

> > > WHAT KIND OF BAD OR NEGATIVE REACTION DID YOU

> > > EXPERIENCE ?

> > >

> >No Success in interviews, jobs, career. Difficulty in education and

> >relationships ofcourse were at worst during those times. The moment

I took

> >off the Blue sapphire, I had a source of income ready in next 3-4

hours, so

> >this made me believe that neelam doesn't suit me.

> > >

> > >

> > > I was having no source of

> > > >income at that time to be very frank. Somehow one

> > > >morning, I had some intuition from within that I

> > > >should take off neelam. I took of neelam at

> > > 9:00-9:30

> > > >in morning and by 1:00 clock, I got 3 tuitions

> > > (same

> > > >day) and my source of income was ready.

> > >

> > > PLEASE DESCRIBE WHAT PERIOD IT WAS WHEN YOU HAD THE

> > > INTUITION TO REMOVE IT

> > > AND HAD NO INCOME ?

> > > >

> >It was june, 2002, sat-mer-sat when my source of income started,

prior to

> >that I was having no source of income for say 6-8 months.

> >

> > > >Though, I have always loved neelam, I like its

> > > light

> > > >blue color, but that doesn't suits me.

> > >

> > > WHAT TYPE OF NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE DID YOU HAVE WHEN

> > > YOU DID WEAR NEELAM ?

> >Already mentioned above

> > >

> > >

> > > So presently I

> > > >am just wearing a ruby and emerald.

> > >

> > > IT IS GOOD. HOPE YOU ARE WEARING RUBY IN GOLD IN

> > > YOUR LEFT HAND RING FINGER

> > > AND EMERALD IN GOLD IN YOUR RIGHT HAND LITTLE

> > > FINGER .

> >I am wearing ruby in Right hand finger in gold and emerald round my

neck in

> >Silver.

> >

> > > >

> > > >Could you kindly explain, how you find Saturn as my

> > > >benefic planet. I may be wrong or there are some

> > > >concepts that are unknown to me. A explanation from

> > > >your side would be highly appreciated.

> > >

> > > AS PER SA. CONCEPT, SATURN IS A BENEFIC PLANET FOR

> > > LEO LAGNA. IN YOUR

> > > CHART, SATURN IS IN INFENCY, THEREFORE, YOU NEED TO

> > > STRENGTHEN IT AS

> > > EXPLAINED TO YOU IN MY PREVIOUS POST.

> > > >

> > > >As per my observation, Mercury PD's are going good,

> > > >now I have made an excel chart for last couple of

> > > >months and I Jot down all the happenings, date and

> > > >dasha running at the time, so that I can predict

> > > >better for future.

> > >

> > > AS I EXPLAINED TO YOU IN MY PREVIOUS POST THAT IT IS

> > > NOT MERCURY PD. RATHER

> > > IT IS VENUS SUB PERIOD IN THE MAIN PERIOD OF SATURN.

> >I still say sat-ven-ven is not that good as sat-ket-mer,

Sat-Ket-Mer was

> >very good and I was mentally at peace and happy. Even I got

selected in one

> >MNC (HCL at double salary what I am getting now), but couldn't join as

> >joining time was very very less (less than 24 hours). I still

sometimes

> >think that it was a opportunity that was missed by me. Mercury PD's

have

> >been good, not AD's. Don't know how Mercury MD will be, but one

thing I am

> >sure of, that it would be on one extreme (extremely good or

extremely bad).

> > >

> > > My Sat-Sat was good period overall,

> > > >sat-sat-mer was very good. Sat-Ketu-Mer was good.

> > > >Sat-mer-mer was exceptionally good and period went

> > > >good till sat-mer-sun. Then after that it was a bad

> > > >period started up lightly (with less problems) and

> > > >then it took off everything from my life (guess

> > > that's

> > > >the way sadhesati do in first phase). Sat-Ket-Mer

> > > was

> > > >again then a very good period.

> > >

> > > AS PER YOUR OWN ABOVE STATEMENT, SATURN PERIOD

> > > IS/WAS GOOD FOR YOU. I FAIL

> > > TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE CONTRADICTING TO YOURSELF

> > > ?

> >I have found that (in some other charts also) that if a planet is

malefic

> >and weak for a particular chart, then it's MD-AD is OK (if not

good), so my

> >sat-sat was overall good. It was my study time, and I was one of

the good

> >students at my institute.

> >

> > >

> > > IS IT BECAUSE OF THE CONTRADICTING APPROACH/SYSTEM

> > > YOU ARE FOLLOWING OR

> > > WHAT ?

> > >

> >I follow by the book of Shri PVR ji which is based on Parashara and

Jamini

> >(kindly note that both are not different, though some people have

tried to

> >view it as different). Jamini has concept of Arudha Padas, which

might be

> >there in Parashara's but the text is missing. This is told by Shri

Sanjay

> >Rath Ji also, that if looked carefully, Parashara and Jamini are same.

> >

> > > I must admit that just

> > > >when Sat-Ket-Mer Started (26th October 2003), it

> > > was

> > > >diwali that day and I had gone to temple with my

> > > >mother. I lighted a lamp near shanidev and within a

> > > >week, almost most of the problems were solved. I

> > > >consider this as blessings from shanidev and

> > > >regualarly light lamp on Saturday evening. Now even

> > > I

> > > >have job (a ok job, not much money, but no

> > > pressure,

> > > >overall happy and *almost* satisfied, though I

> > > would

> > > >like to increase on monetary part, everything else

> > > is

> > > >OK).

> > >

> > > THAT IS TRULY THE BLESSING OF LORD SATURN UPON YOU.

> >So, I still continue to go temple every saturday and sometimes (say

once in

> >3-4 months) try to get Shani Pooja done at temple on saturdays.

> > > >

> > > >Sat-Ven period, its like forcing me to increase my

> > > >earnings. I jumped into share market. Now my family

> > > >members and my relatives and me also (may be

> > > motivated

> > > >or directed by them) want to change my job to get

> > > more

> > > >money.

> > > >

> > > >So having said all this, I guess, there are some

> > > >differences in our approach or understanding and I

> > > >would like to learn / share the knowledge.

> > >

> > > FEEL FREE TO ASK. WE ALL LEARN FROM EACH OTHER.

> >Yes, I too believe same, We all can learn from each other and by

sharing

> >our experiences.

> > >

> > > ALL THE BEST.

> > > >

> > > >Regards,

> > > >

> > > >Neeraj Gupta

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Thanks and Regards,

> > > >

> > > >Neeraj Gupta

> > > >

> > > >--- fas fas <foreignersassistance@h...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > Hello dear Neeraj,

> > > > >

> > > > > Please read my reply in CAP. appended below your

> > > > > message.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes...............Amar Puri.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >"Neeraj" <gupta_neeraj_2000>

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> > > > > >gjlist

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> > > with

> > > > > good results? How??

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Dear Neeraj,

 

That is where it belongs. You can remove the ring a night beofre and wear

it on April 22,2004 at 7.05 am. to 7.15.am. which is one of the best

auspicious time as per Vedic Astrology.

 

Best wishes...............Amar Puri.

 

 

>Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000

>gjlist

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>Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with good results? How??

>Fri, 16 Apr 2004 01:19:18 -0700 (PDT)

>

>~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

>Dear Amar,

>

>Thanks for your comments. Just one question. Why Ruby

>in left hand and not in right hand.

>

>Regards,

>

>Neeraj Gupta

>

>--- fas fas <foreignersassistance wrote:

> > Hello dear Neeraj,

> >

> > Hope this finds you in the best of your health and

> > spirit. It appears from

> > your writing below that you have lots of confusion

> > and contradiction in

> > interpretation of your chart. Please read my reply

> > once again in CAP.

> > letters ;

> >

> > YOU WROTE ;

> > >If saturn aspect is good, then my relationships,

> > business ( I did it for a

> > >few months, a very small one) and my career till

> > now is very bad. Despite

> > >being a good education and 4 years of experience, I

> > am just earning very

> > >low. Just hand to mouth situation. and Saturn MD is

> > running since Feb,

> > >1997, so It should go in positive direction.

> >

> > MY REPLY ;

> > No doubt Saturn is benefic planet well placed in

> > Lagna but it is in

> > infency and debilitated in Navamasa as I previously

> > mentioned else where in

> > my post. Hence it is considered weak. That is why

> > I suggested you strongly

> > that you must wear Neelam in Gold in middle finger

> > of left hand on elected

> > auspicious time. But you wore the neelam in silver

> > as per the advice of

> > some astrologer not knowing that by doing so you

> > were strengthening the most

> > malefic planet MOON in your chart. Therefore, the

> > results were unfavourable

> > because the metal silver is ruled by MOON. You know

> > that Moon is the

> > fastest moving planet. The minutes you removed the

> > silver ring, you saw

> > good results in couple of hours or so. Therefore,

> > Saturn is not malefic for

> > you. Please read on more what you wrote ;

> > My Sat-Sat was good period overall,

> > > > >sat-sat-mer was very good. Sat-Ketu-Mer was

> > good.

> > > > >Sat-mer-mer was exceptionally good and period

> > went

> > > > >good till sat-mer-sun. Then after that it was a

> > bad

> > > > >period started up lightly (with less problems)

> > and

> > > > >then it took off everything from my life (guess

> > > > that's

> > > > >the way sadhesati do in first phase).

> > Sat-Ket-Mer

> > > > was

> > > > >again then a very good period.

> > > >

> > > > AS PER YOUR OWN ABOVE STATEMENT, SATURN PERIOD

> > > > IS/WAS GOOD FOR YOU. I FAIL

> > > > TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE CONTRADICTING TO

> > YOURSELF

> > > > ?

> > >I have found that (in some other charts also) that

> > if a planet is malefic

> > >and weak for a particular chart, then it's MD-AD is

> > OK (if not good), so my

> > >sat-sat was overall good. It was my study time, and

> > I was one of the good

> > >students at my institute.

> >

> > MALEFIC PLANETS PLAY ROLE OF MALEFIC IN ORDER TO

> > GIVE RESULTS ACCORDING TO

> > OUR PREVIOUS KARMA. HOWEVER BY APPEASING

> > (PROPITIATING) THE MALEFICS AND

> > STRENGTHENING THE WEAK BENEFIC PLANETS IT CAN HELP

> > TO IMPROVE OUR KARMIC

> > REACTION ACCORDING TO ONE'S OWN CONVICTION.

> >

> >

> > YOU WROTE ;

> > So presently I

> > > > >am just wearing a ruby and emerald.

> > > >

> > > > IT IS GOOD. HOPE YOU ARE WEARING RUBY IN GOLD IN

> > > > YOUR LEFT HAND RING FINGER

> > > > AND EMERALD IN GOLD IN YOUR RIGHT HAND LITTLE

> > > > FINGER .

> > >I am wearing ruby in Right hand finger in gold and

> > emerald round my neck in

> > >Silver.

> >

> > MY REPLY ;

> > Please wear the ruby in gold in the left hand ring

> > finger as mentioned

> > above. Remove the Silver from Emerald and put it in

> > gold only. The reason

> > is by wearing gold you are strengthening the Sun

> > which is exalted but in

> > infency. Don't wear any items of silver. No white

> > color clothes etc.

> > because MOON is most malefic planet in your chart.

> > You can wear Emerald in

> > gold in neck but if you have to wear a ring, please

> > wear it in a little

> > finger of right hand on an auspicious elected time.

> >

> > PLEASE READ ON MORE WHAT YOU WROTE ;

> > Sat-Ven period, its like forcing me to increase my

> > > > >earnings. I jumped into share market. Now my

> > family

> > > > >members and my relatives and me also (may be

> > > > motivated

> > > > >or directed by them) want to change my job to

> > get

> > > > more

> > > > >money.

> > > > >

> > > > >So having said all this, I guess, there are

> > some

> > > > >differences in our approach or understanding

> > and I

> > > > >would like to learn / share the knowledge.

> >

> > MY REPLY ;

> >

> > THE SUB PERIOD OF VENUS IN THE MAIN PERIOD OF SATURN

> > IS THE RESULT OF WHAT

> > YOU HAVE MENTIONED ABOVE BECASUE VENUS CONJUCT 9TH

> > HOUSE OF FUTURE FORTUNE

> > AND ASPECTING HER OWN M/T AT THE MOST EFFECTIVE

> > POINT OF 3RD HOUSE OF

> > INITIATIVE AND COURGE WHICH GIVES YOU SOME GOOD

> > INVESTMENT RESULT. ALSO,

> > MAKE A NOTE THAT YOUR VENUS NO DOUBT IT IS STRONG

> > AND WELL PLACED BUT ITS

> > DISPOSITOR MARS IS WEAK DUE TO PLACEMENT IN 12TH

> > HOUSE AND A CLOSE ASPECTED

> > BY KETU. WHAT I SUGGEST IS THAT YOU SHOULD ALSO

> > THINK TO STRENGTHEN THE

> > MARS BY WEARING RED CORAL (MOONGA) 4.77 CARAT SO

> > THAT IT MAY HELP YOU IN

> > TRANSIT.

> >

> >

> > DON'T YOU FORGET MERCURY IS THE MOST BENEFIC PLANET

> > IN YOUR CHART BUT IT IS

> > PLACED IN 8TH HOUSE DEBILITED. THEREFORE, IT IS

> > ALSO CONSIDERED WEAK. IF

> > YOU CONTINUE WEARING EMARALD IN SILVER, MY FRIEND,

> > YOU ARE INVITING

> > UNFAVOURABLE AND UNDESIREABLE RESULTS IN YOUR LIFE.

> >

> > BEGIN PROPITIATING MOON, RAHU AND KETU IMMEDIATELY

> > AND STRENGTHEN THE WEAK

> > BENEFIC PLANETS, I CAN ASSURE YOU BY THE GRACE OF

> > GOD EVERYTHING SHALL BE OK

> > EVEN IN THE MERCURY PERIOD YOU WILL BE PROSPEROUS IF

> > YOU FOLLOW THE ABOVE.

> >

> > GOD BLESS. BEST

> > WISHES................................AMAR PURI.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000

> > >gjlist

> > >gjlist

> > >Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with

> > good results? How??

> > >Tue, 13 Apr 2004 01:23:19 -0700 (PDT)

> > >

> > >Dear Amar,

> > >

> > >Kindly find my replies in BLUE COLOR

> > >

> > >--- fas fas <foreignersassistance

> > wrote:

> > > > Hello Neeraj,

> > > >

> > > > Please read again my reply in CAP. letters

> > appended

> > > > below your message ;

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes.....................Amar Puri.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >Neeraj Gupta

> > <gupta_neeraj_2000

> > > > >gjlist

> > > > >gjlist

> > > > >Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet

> > with

> > > > good results? How??

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Dear Raman,

 

By wearing color and/or stones etc. pertaining to the malefics, one

strengthens the malefic effects of that planet. One can pacify the malefic

by Punja, Japa and charity.

 

Best wishes...................Amar Puri.

 

 

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>Sat, 17 Apr 2004 02:54:26 -0000

>

>Namasthe!

>

>Just wanted to share my thoughts. You have advised not to wear any

>white clothes, because moon is Malefic. I feel wearing white clothes

>will actually pacify moon.

>

>Om Tat Sat,

>

>Raman Suprajarama

>

>gjlist, "fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...>

>wrote:

> > Hello dear Neeraj,

> >

> > Hope this finds you in the best of your health and spirit. It

>appears from

> > your writing below that you have lots of confusion and contradiction in

> > interpretation of your chart. Please read my reply once again in CAP.

> > letters ;

> >

> > YOU WROTE ;

> > >If saturn aspect is good, then my relationships, business ( I did

>it for a

> > >few months, a very small one) and my career till now is very bad.

>Despite

> > >being a good education and 4 years of experience, I am just earning

>very

> > >low. Just hand to mouth situation. and Saturn MD is running since Feb,

> > >1997, so It should go in positive direction.

> >

> > MY REPLY ;

> > No doubt Saturn is benefic planet well placed in Lagna but it is in

> > infency and debilitated in Navamasa as I previously mentioned else

>where in

> > my post. Hence it is considered weak. That is why I suggested you

>strongly

> > that you must wear Neelam in Gold in middle finger of left hand on

>elected

> > auspicious time. But you wore the neelam in silver as per the

>advice of

> > some astrologer not knowing that by doing so you were strengthening

>the most

> > malefic planet MOON in your chart. Therefore, the results were

>unfavourable

> > because the metal silver is ruled by MOON. You know that Moon is the

> > fastest moving planet. The minutes you removed the silver ring, you

>saw

> > good results in couple of hours or so. Therefore, Saturn is not

>malefic for

> > you. Please read on more what you wrote ;

> > My Sat-Sat was good period overall,

> > > > >sat-sat-mer was very good. Sat-Ketu-Mer was good.

> > > > >Sat-mer-mer was exceptionally good and period went

> > > > >good till sat-mer-sun. Then after that it was a bad

> > > > >period started up lightly (with less problems) and

> > > > >then it took off everything from my life (guess

> > > > that's

> > > > >the way sadhesati do in first phase). Sat-Ket-Mer

> > > > was

> > > > >again then a very good period.

> > > >

> > > > AS PER YOUR OWN ABOVE STATEMENT, SATURN PERIOD

> > > > IS/WAS GOOD FOR YOU. I FAIL

> > > > TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE CONTRADICTING TO YOURSELF

> > > > ?

> > >I have found that (in some other charts also) that if a planet is

>malefic

> > >and weak for a particular chart, then it's MD-AD is OK (if not

>good), so my

> > >sat-sat was overall good. It was my study time, and I was one of

>the good

> > >students at my institute.

> >

> > MALEFIC PLANETS PLAY ROLE OF MALEFIC IN ORDER TO GIVE RESULTS

>ACCORDING TO

> > OUR PREVIOUS KARMA. HOWEVER BY APPEASING (PROPITIATING) THE

>MALEFICS AND

> > STRENGTHENING THE WEAK BENEFIC PLANETS IT CAN HELP TO IMPROVE OUR

>KARMIC

> > REACTION ACCORDING TO ONE'S OWN CONVICTION.

> >

> >

> > YOU WROTE ;

> > So presently I

> > > > >am just wearing a ruby and emerald.

> > > >

> > > > IT IS GOOD. HOPE YOU ARE WEARING RUBY IN GOLD IN

> > > > YOUR LEFT HAND RING FINGER

> > > > AND EMERALD IN GOLD IN YOUR RIGHT HAND LITTLE

> > > > FINGER .

> > >I am wearing ruby in Right hand finger in gold and emerald round my

>neck in

> > >Silver.

> >

> > MY REPLY ;

> > Please wear the ruby in gold in the left hand ring finger as mentioned

> > above. Remove the Silver from Emerald and put it in gold only. The

>reason

> > is by wearing gold you are strengthening the Sun which is exalted

>but in

> > infency. Don't wear any items of silver. No white color clothes etc.

> > because MOON is most malefic planet in your chart. You can wear

>Emerald in

> > gold in neck but if you have to wear a ring, please wear it in a little

> > finger of right hand on an auspicious elected time.

> >

> > PLEASE READ ON MORE WHAT YOU WROTE ;

> > Sat-Ven period, its like forcing me to increase my

> > > > >earnings. I jumped into share market. Now my family

> > > > >members and my relatives and me also (may be

> > > > motivated

> > > > >or directed by them) want to change my job to get

> > > > more

> > > > >money.

> > > > >

> > > > >So having said all this, I guess, there are some

> > > > >differences in our approach or understanding and I

> > > > >would like to learn / share the knowledge.

> >

> > MY REPLY ;

> >

> > THE SUB PERIOD OF VENUS IN THE MAIN PERIOD OF SATURN IS THE RESULT

>OF WHAT

> > YOU HAVE MENTIONED ABOVE BECASUE VENUS CONJUCT 9TH HOUSE OF FUTURE

>FORTUNE

> > AND ASPECTING HER OWN M/T AT THE MOST EFFECTIVE POINT OF 3RD HOUSE OF

> > INITIATIVE AND COURGE WHICH GIVES YOU SOME GOOD INVESTMENT RESULT.

>ALSO,

> > MAKE A NOTE THAT YOUR VENUS NO DOUBT IT IS STRONG AND WELL PLACED

>BUT ITS

> > DISPOSITOR MARS IS WEAK DUE TO PLACEMENT IN 12TH HOUSE AND A CLOSE

>ASPECTED

> > BY KETU. WHAT I SUGGEST IS THAT YOU SHOULD ALSO THINK TO STRENGTHEN

>THE

> > MARS BY WEARING RED CORAL (MOONGA) 4.77 CARAT SO THAT IT MAY HELP

>YOU IN

> > TRANSIT.

> >

> >

> > DON'T YOU FORGET MERCURY IS THE MOST BENEFIC PLANET IN YOUR CHART

>BUT IT IS

> > PLACED IN 8TH HOUSE DEBILITED. THEREFORE, IT IS ALSO CONSIDERED

>WEAK. IF

> > YOU CONTINUE WEARING EMARALD IN SILVER, MY FRIEND, YOU ARE INVITING

> > UNFAVOURABLE AND UNDESIREABLE RESULTS IN YOUR LIFE.

> >

> > BEGIN PROPITIATING MOON, RAHU AND KETU IMMEDIATELY AND STRENGTHEN

>THE WEAK

> > BENEFIC PLANETS, I CAN ASSURE YOU BY THE GRACE OF GOD EVERYTHING

>SHALL BE OK

> > EVEN IN THE MERCURY PERIOD YOU WILL BE PROSPEROUS IF YOU FOLLOW THE

>ABOVE.

> >

> > GOD BLESS. BEST WISHES................................AMAR PURI.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000>

> > >gjlist

> > >gjlist

> > >Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with good results? How??

> > >Tue, 13 Apr 2004 01:23:19 -0700 (PDT)

> > >

> > >Dear Amar,

> > >

> > >Kindly find my replies in BLUE COLOR

> > >

> > >--- fas fas <foreignersassistance@h...> wrote:

> > > > Hello Neeraj,

> > > >

> > > > Please read again my reply in CAP. letters appended

> > > > below your message ;

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes.....................Amar Puri.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000>

> > > > >gjlist

> > > > >gjlist

> > > > >Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet with

> > > > good results? How??

> > > > >Wed, 7 Apr 2004 00:57:33 -0700 (PDT)

> > > > >

> > > > >~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

> > > > >

> > > > >Dear Amar,

> > > > >

> > > > >How can saturn be a benefic planet for me. I follow

> > > > >parashara system. Here are my points.

> > > > >

> > > > >1) Saturn is the most malefic planet for leo lagna.

> > > >

> > > > SATURN IS NOT MALEFIC FOR LEO LAGNA AS PER SA.

> > > > BECAUSE SAT M/T SIGN FALLS IN

> > > > 7TH HOUSE AND SATURN IS VERY WELL PLACED IN YOUR

> > > > LAGNA BUT IN INFENCY.

> > > > PLEASE READ YOUR OWN WRITING BELOW IN WHICH YOU HAVE

> > > > ADMITTED SATURN PERIOD

> > > > OVER ALL IS/WAS VERY GOOD.

> > >

> > >I haven't studied SA approach till now, but would like to study it.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > >2) It is lord of 6th (Worries, tensions, problems

> > > > etc)

> > > > >and Lord of 7th (Markesh) house.

> > > >

> > > > PLEASE READ ABOVE.

> > > > >3) It is placed in inmical sign (i.e. Leo)

> > > >

> > > > SEE ABOVE.

> > > >

> > > > >4) Saturn is aspecting my 3rd, 7th (Spouse,

> > > > Business),

> > > > >and 10th (Career) houses.

> > > >

> > > > THE ABOVE ASPECT IS HELPFUL BECAUSE SATURN IS A

> > > > BENEFIC PLANET IN YOUR

> > > > CHART.

> > >If saturn aspect is good, then my relationships, business ( I did

>it for a

> > >few months, a very small one) and my career till now is very bad.

>Despite

> > >being a good education and 4 years of experience, I am just earning

>very

> > >low. Just hand to mouth situation. and Saturn MD is running since Feb,

> > >1997, so It should go in positive direction.

> > > > >

> > > > >I have tried wearing neelam in past as per

> > > > >recommendation of one astrologer. He asked me to

> > > > wear

> > > > >neelam to lessen the effects of sadhesati. As we

> > > > all

> > > > >know neelam is very reactive stone (in terms of

> > > > >results) and I wored it for approx 1 month (that

> > > > was

> > > > >first phase of sadhesati).

> > > >

> > > > DID YOU WEAR NEELAM IN GOLD IN MIDDLE FINGER OF LEFT

> > > > HAND ON AN AUSPICIOUS

> > > > ELECTED TIME ?

> > >

> > >No, I worn neelam in right hand middle finger in silver. I cannot

>afford to

> > >put it in gold at that time. According to what I have studied till

>now,

> > >gems are worn in right hand to increase the effect of planet and in

>left

> > >hand to decrease the effect of planet (malefic). Yes I wored it on the

> > >auspicious time on Saturday as told to me by local astrologer at

>that time.

> > >He was of the view that as Sadhesati is a bad period for me, so it may

> > >reduce problems.

> > > >

> > > > WHAT KIND OF BAD OR NEGATIVE REACTION DID YOU

> > > > EXPERIENCE ?

> > > >

> > >No Success in interviews, jobs, career. Difficulty in education and

> > >relationships ofcourse were at worst during those times. The moment

>I took

> > >off the Blue sapphire, I had a source of income ready in next 3-4

>hours, so

> > >this made me believe that neelam doesn't suit me.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I was having no source of

> > > > >income at that time to be very frank. Somehow one

> > > > >morning, I had some intuition from within that I

> > > > >should take off neelam. I took of neelam at

> > > > 9:00-9:30

> > > > >in morning and by 1:00 clock, I got 3 tuitions

> > > > (same

> > > > >day) and my source of income was ready.

> > > >

> > > > PLEASE DESCRIBE WHAT PERIOD IT WAS WHEN YOU HAD THE

> > > > INTUITION TO REMOVE IT

> > > > AND HAD NO INCOME ?

> > > > >

> > >It was june, 2002, sat-mer-sat when my source of income started,

>prior to

> > >that I was having no source of income for say 6-8 months.

> > >

> > > > >Though, I have always loved neelam, I like its

> > > > light

> > > > >blue color, but that doesn't suits me.

> > > >

> > > > WHAT TYPE OF NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE DID YOU HAVE WHEN

> > > > YOU DID WEAR NEELAM ?

> > >Already mentioned above

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So presently I

> > > > >am just wearing a ruby and emerald.

> > > >

> > > > IT IS GOOD. HOPE YOU ARE WEARING RUBY IN GOLD IN

> > > > YOUR LEFT HAND RING FINGER

> > > > AND EMERALD IN GOLD IN YOUR RIGHT HAND LITTLE

> > > > FINGER .

> > >I am wearing ruby in Right hand finger in gold and emerald round my

>neck in

> > >Silver.

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > >Could you kindly explain, how you find Saturn as my

> > > > >benefic planet. I may be wrong or there are some

> > > > >concepts that are unknown to me. A explanation from

> > > > >your side would be highly appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > AS PER SA. CONCEPT, SATURN IS A BENEFIC PLANET FOR

> > > > LEO LAGNA. IN YOUR

> > > > CHART, SATURN IS IN INFENCY, THEREFORE, YOU NEED TO

> > > > STRENGTHEN IT AS

> > > > EXPLAINED TO YOU IN MY PREVIOUS POST.

> > > > >

> > > > >As per my observation, Mercury PD's are going good,

> > > > >now I have made an excel chart for last couple of

> > > > >months and I Jot down all the happenings, date and

> > > > >dasha running at the time, so that I can predict

> > > > >better for future.

> > > >

> > > > AS I EXPLAINED TO YOU IN MY PREVIOUS POST THAT IT IS

> > > > NOT MERCURY PD. RATHER

> > > > IT IS VENUS SUB PERIOD IN THE MAIN PERIOD OF SATURN.

> > >I still say sat-ven-ven is not that good as sat-ket-mer,

>Sat-Ket-Mer was

> > >very good and I was mentally at peace and happy. Even I got

>selected in one

> > >MNC (HCL at double salary what I am getting now), but couldn't join as

> > >joining time was very very less (less than 24 hours). I still

>sometimes

> > >think that it was a opportunity that was missed by me. Mercury PD's

>have

> > >been good, not AD's. Don't know how Mercury MD will be, but one

>thing I am

> > >sure of, that it would be on one extreme (extremely good or

>extremely bad).

> > > >

> > > > My Sat-Sat was good period overall,

> > > > >sat-sat-mer was very good. Sat-Ketu-Mer was good.

> > > > >Sat-mer-mer was exceptionally good and period went

> > > > >good till sat-mer-sun. Then after that it was a bad

> > > > >period started up lightly (with less problems) and

> > > > >then it took off everything from my life (guess

> > > > that's

> > > > >the way sadhesati do in first phase). Sat-Ket-Mer

> > > > was

> > > > >again then a very good period.

> > > >

> > > > AS PER YOUR OWN ABOVE STATEMENT, SATURN PERIOD

> > > > IS/WAS GOOD FOR YOU. I FAIL

> > > > TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE CONTRADICTING TO YOURSELF

> > > > ?

> > >I have found that (in some other charts also) that if a planet is

>malefic

> > >and weak for a particular chart, then it's MD-AD is OK (if not

>good), so my

> > >sat-sat was overall good. It was my study time, and I was one of

>the good

> > >students at my institute.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > IS IT BECAUSE OF THE CONTRADICTING APPROACH/SYSTEM

> > > > YOU ARE FOLLOWING OR

> > > > WHAT ?

> > > >

> > >I follow by the book of Shri PVR ji which is based on Parashara and

>Jamini

> > >(kindly note that both are not different, though some people have

>tried to

> > >view it as different). Jamini has concept of Arudha Padas, which

>might be

> > >there in Parashara's but the text is missing. This is told by Shri

>Sanjay

> > >Rath Ji also, that if looked carefully, Parashara and Jamini are same.

> > >

> > > > I must admit that just

> > > > >when Sat-Ket-Mer Started (26th October 2003), it

> > > > was

> > > > >diwali that day and I had gone to temple with my

> > > > >mother. I lighted a lamp near shanidev and within a

> > > > >week, almost most of the problems were solved. I

> > > > >consider this as blessings from shanidev and

> > > > >regualarly light lamp on Saturday evening. Now even

> > > > I

> > > > >have job (a ok job, not much money, but no

> > > > pressure,

> > > > >overall happy and *almost* satisfied, though I

> > > > would

> > > > >like to increase on monetary part, everything else

> > > > is

> > > > >OK).

> > > >

> > > > THAT IS TRULY THE BLESSING OF LORD SATURN UPON YOU.

> > >So, I still continue to go temple every saturday and sometimes (say

>once in

> > >3-4 months) try to get Shani Pooja done at temple on saturdays.

> > > > >

> > > > >Sat-Ven period, its like forcing me to increase my

> > > > >earnings. I jumped into share market. Now my family

> > > > >members and my relatives and me also (may be

> > > > motivated

> > > > >or directed by them) want to change my job to get

> > > > more

> > > > >money.

> > > > >

> > > > >So having said all this, I guess, there are some

> > > > >differences in our approach or understanding and I

> > > > >would like to learn / share the knowledge.

> > > >

> > > > FEEL FREE TO ASK. WE ALL LEARN FROM EACH OTHER.

> > >Yes, I too believe same, We all can learn from each other and by

>sharing

> > >our experiences.

> > > >

> > > > ALL THE BEST.

> > > > >

> > > > >Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > >Neeraj Gupta

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >Thanks and Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > >Neeraj Gupta

> > > > >

> > > > >--- fas fas <foreignersassistance@h...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Hello dear Neeraj,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please read my reply in CAP. appended below your

> > > > > > message.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes...............Amar Puri.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >"Neeraj" <gupta_neeraj_2000>

> > > > > > >gjlist

> > > > > > >gjlist

> > > > > > >Re: [GJ] Combusted, Debiliated planet

> > > > with

> > > > > > good results? How??

> > > > > > >Mon, 05 Apr 2004 11:06:47 -0000

> > > > > > >

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