Family Ties, Part Two: Vedic Relationship Compatibility Analysis

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Everyone,

 

The following comes from my online forum, wherein

whichi I discussed at length the matters surrounding

my parent's lives and marriage. This is Part Two,

which centers primarily on Vedic astrological methods,

which is significant here. Since there has and

continues to be interest in the area of chart matching

(known in the West as "Synastry") I thought to offer

these writings here. They are real life examples

valuable for anyone's study of the subject.

 

As always if there is anyone that has any questions,

please feel free to ask. I try to answer all those who

care to write.

 

Salaam,

Mu

 

Family Ties, Part Two: Vedic Analysis Mu'Min Bey

Jan 25, 2004 20:26 PST

 

Hi All,

 

The other night, I spoke on the nature of the

relationship between my

parents, and I used standard Western astrological

principles to

illuminate key issues going on between them. I also

used my horoscope to

explain how I "fit in" into their relationship, and

how they impacted

me, and I guess, how I impacted them.

 

Now, I wish to take an alternate view of the same

relationship, from the

Vedic side...

 

Again, the data -

 

Dad: Jun 26, 1935 4.45AM EST, Savannah, GA (Gemini

Lagna)

Mom: Dec 19, 1949 4.59AM EST, Phildelphia, PA (Scorpio

Lagna)

Mu'Min: Dec 2, 1968 9.43AM EST, Philadelphia, PA (Sag

Lagna)

 

OK.

 

My Dad has Gemini Lagna, with Mercury in the Asc,

giving rise to Bhadra

Yoga, one of the Pancha Mahapurusha Yogas. This, along

with a strong

Budhaditya Yoga, suggests strong Mercurial talents,

like accounting, or

teaching. In reality though, my Dad, growing up Black

poor and in the

South, had no such access to schooling along those

lines. After serving

in the Korean War, my Dad was able to go back to

school under the GI

Bill, and get his GED and diploma from vo-tech skills

school,

specializing in home construction, and man, did he

have a talenet for

building and fixing anything that has to do with the

home. I have seen

this man practically build a house from the ground up

- I have helped hi

do it several times.

 

How is this seen, the strong ability to build and fix

homes - and how is

his going into business for himself also shown?

 

Note Mars, very strong in the 4th house; Mars

represents real estate and

the 4th house rules the same, and Mars rules workmen

(along with

Saturn); Mars being in Mercury's sign, Virgo, suggests

a potential

career line for him. Mars also of course, represents

the soldier,

especially in Virgo, the sign of "the service". From

the 4th house, Mars

throws a full aspect on the 10th house.

 

My Mom worked her whole adult life as a nurse, in

varying capacities;

look at her chart, and mark the positions of both the

Moon in the 1st

house (nursing) and Lagnesh Mars in Virgo associated

with Ketu (healing

health, etc).

 

We learn several key things in Jyotish when it comes

to the question of

chart matching; the first thing we learn is to scan

the charts under

consideration for relationship fitness in terms of the

7th house, its

lord, Venus for the man and Jupiter for the woman.

 

Dad has Rahu in the 7th, classically not considered

favorable; indeed,

even in modern times, Rahu in such a placement

suggests

"unconventiality" in some way regarding relationship

matters. In that he

was a few months shy of his 35th birthday when he

married my Mom, who

wasn't even 20 yet, certainly caused quite a stir in

my Mom's family,

especially my grandmother, who loathed my Dad. Going

further, we see

that Dad's 7th lord Jupiter is placed in Venus' sign

Libra and mutually

aspected by the Moon from the 11th. This is a very

powerful combination,

going under Gaja Kersari Yoga, and as such it gives a

good deal of

benefits in this life. It is considered both a Dhana

and Raja Yoga, and

indeed my Dad was both quite a well known character on

his circle, as

well as quite successful at times (his favorite

pastime, among other

things, was horse-betting; he loved the races, and

often won a good bit

of money. Once he won over 50K).

 

This combination, along the 5th-11th axis, suggests

having more

daughters than sons (which he did; six in all, once

you take his other

family into account), as well as a very strong sexual

appetite. As I

have said in earlier writings, the 11th house strong

in a Vedic chart,

out of phase with the 7th house, can suggest that the

native may

inclined to "creep" on his/her spouse, due to not

being satisfied

sexually/emotionally. This was certainly the case with

my Dad.

 

Venus is in Cancer in the 2nd house in his chart. If

we rotate his chart

so that the Moon comes into the Asc position, we see

that it now is in

the 4th house, in an angle from the Moon. This

combination, going under

the name "Chandra-Shukra Yoga" is highly significant

when it comes to

sexual concerns and relationship matters. Anytime

Venus is in an angular

house from the Moon, we can expect the person to have

a higher sexual

interest and energy than the average, all other things

being equal, of

course. Note also, again keeping the Moon in the Asc,

that Jupiter is

now in the 7th, a highly favorable placement to have;

this goes under

the name of "Satkalatra Yoga" and as such it usually

confers a spouse of

high standing and good moral standing. Throughout all

of their ups and

downs, my Mom never cheated on my Dad, and remained

faithful to him

until the day he died.

 

Note that Venus, in the 4th from the Moon, is both the

dispositor of

Jupiter in the 7th, and is itself disposed of by the

Moon.

 

This is where Naksatras, the Lunar zodiacal signs used

in Jyotish, come

into play, as we inspect the condition of my Dad's

Moon. Note that it is

placed in Bharani, the star associated with intense

experiences like sex

- in fact, it's symbol is a vagina!-and it's ruler is

Venus. Strong

Sexual urges, thoughts and desires again. He just

couldn't get enough.

 

Going back into the Asc for my Dad, we see that

Jupiter aspects his

Lagnesh Mercury, and this again gives rise to

Satkalatra Yoga. However,

when we consider the relationship of the planets in

light of the Vedic

method, we find that Mercury is inimical to Jupiter.

This mans that,

while my Mom cared deeply about my Dad, he may not

have cared as deeply,

and at least, from time to time, he fell off the sex

affair wagon.

 

Still, all in all, his chart suggests a good and happy

married life, for

the most part - until we see a key, major cause for

concern...

 

Mars in the 4th in his chart gives rise to what is

known in Jyotish

circles as Kuja Dosha. Although KD is said to be

modified or even

cancelled in the case of a male chart, as long as Mars

falls in the 1st,

4th or 8th houses, we have to look at things quite

closely here.

 

First, note that Mars in the 4th house is in Virgo,

which greatly

complicates things here; for KD to be nullified here,

it has be placed

in the signs of Mars - Aries or Scorpio - and it is

not. Second, Mars

rules difficult houses in this chart - the 6th and

11th (which is 6

houses away from the 6th house, compunding the

inherent difficulty of

the 6th house; this is a principle known as Bahavat

Bhavam) - which

complicates matters along relationship lines. Third,

Mars is inimical to

Lagnesh Mercury, and its placement in Virgo is highly

detrimental to my

Dad both mentally (deceptive behavoir, telling lies,

verbal abuse of my

Mom, and more) and physically (HIV, among other

things). Finally, Mars

is a natural malefic, and as such, cannot help but

bring at least some

degree of trouble into the relationship sphere,

especially in it goes

into "KD" mode, which it is here.

 

But there's more, as we now turn to my Mom's chart to

assess things from

hr side of the aisle. Note that Mars in my Mom's chart

is in the same

sign as my Dad's - this brings a highly mixed

blessing, in that it was

great for enflaiming the passions, but highly toxic in

terms of harmony

and placidity. Plus, as if that weren't enough, Mom's

Mars, which is

Lagnesh for her, is conjunct the firery Ketu!!! All I

could think of

when I looked these charts over the first time was

Eddie Murphy's famous

line, "Now that's a fire!" Way too much stiumlation of

the Martian

sensibilities here. That Dad's Mars in his chart

aspects his 7th house,

holding Rahu, makes things much too hot to handle. And

it showed.

 

To make things worse, Mom does not have Kuja Dosha, a

major

consideration here; classical authorities state very

clearly, that a

person with Kuja Dosha can successfully mate with

another who also has

KD of approximate strength. We'll come back to the

utility of this

remedy in a moment, but for now, let's accept the

premise on its face.

The fact that she did not have KD does suggest

strongly that her

maritial misery in many ways could have been lessend

greatly if she did

have it.

 

Note also the Mars aspect in her chart to her Mercury,

which is

augmented even more by Dad's Mars aspecting the same

poor Mercury. Like

the Western synastric ties between them in this

regard, this

Mercury-Mars combination is not a happy one, and

almost always inclines

towards arguments, fights and worse.

 

Going further with her chart, note that Mom has Venus

in the 3rd house

with Jupiter, both in Capricorn. This placement,

Jupiter that is, is not

favorable in a woman's chart. As Jupiter represents a

woman's spouse,

being in its sign of debilitation suggests that the

spouse will be of

"low" stature somehow, either in terms of social

status, or in terms of

literally low behavior. In the eyes of my grandmother,

my Dad was both.

However, Venus associated with Jupiter gives rise to

yt another variant

of Satkalatra Yoga, and this represents my Mom's

committment to my Dad,

despite his many shortcomings - and in fairness, it

also suggests that

inherent goodness in him, again, in spite of his

lapses of judgement.

Venus is the 7th lord. Jupiter and Saturn's aspects on

the 7th house

makes for more shaky ground in terms of marital life.

Highs and lows,

hills and valleys. And the lack of strong sexual

aspects in her chart in

relation to his, accounts in part for the affairs my

Dad had.

 

Although my parents had significant challenges to

face, which we have

already seen in terms of their Vedic synastry -

namely, the Mars

relationship - we can see that they also had some

"glue" that held them

together through it all. Note the 7/7 relationship of

the Suns, Mercurys

and Venuses between their charts. Such a relationship

is highly favored

in Vedic astrology, because it highlights the unity of

opposites

principle. Even their Moons are linked together, due

to the fact that

they are "owned" by the same planet, Mars. All told,

this makes for

compelling links accross the charts, with only one fly

in the ointment -

the Ascendants.

 

Dad has Gemini Lagna, while Mom has Scorpio Lagna.

They are 6/8 from

each other, and worse, Mars is inimical to Mercury.

6/8 relationships,

at best, require great amounts of work and adujstment

to meet the other

halfway; it seems as if the two people are living on

other planets,

instead of living in the same house. That the planets

involved aren't

friendly to each other, AND that Mars' role here

accross the charts is

so pronounced, only adds even more fuel to the fire.

 

All of the Martian energy, running totally out of

control, goes a long

to explaining why they got married to begin with and

so soon at that;

they had a very brief courtship, about a few months.

 

Now, we turn to what is known as the Kuta system in

India; it is the

time honored method of relationship compatibility

based on the

relationship of the couple's Moons to each other. This

method, first

invented in South India, has existed for centuries and

has no equivalent

in the Western astological techniques. Nothing comes

as close to getting

a line on every aspect of maritial life of the couple

under

consideration, as the Kuta ("points") system.

 

Looking at my Mom and Dad's Kutas, we see that the

all-important first

five Kutas are weak. Dina, Gana and Rasi Kutas in

particular are very

weak. These, along with Yoni and Rajju Kutas, are

considered by many

jyotishis to be among the most important Kutas, and if

these five are

weak, it is not advised to proceed with the match. The

only exception to

this rule, is that if the remaining Kutas (commonly

accepted to by ten

in number, although I have added a few extra to my

list) are very

strong, the match may proceed, due to the "lesser"

Kutas have given very

strong indications of success in marriage.

 

Here, we see that the rest of th Kutas:Stri-Dirga,

Rasyadhipati, Vedha,

Nadi, Vashya, are excellent. Only Mahendra and Varna

Kutas are abyssmal.

Yoni and Rajju Kutas, the last two of the first five,

are passable.

 

Therefore, we get a clear picture of what we have

already seen in

comparing their charts: that their sexual life would

be fair but not

quite even in terms of needs; that they would

nevertheless have several

children; that while they clearly had some things in

common, there were

at least as many where they were in serious

contention; that they both

had differing views of ethics and morality; that they

were able to

weather the storms of life together fairly well, and

that their union

would create serious trouble in the extended family,

my Mom's

grandmother in particular. Finally, the Kuta "survey"

found that my

parents would likely stay together until they died,

which is what

happened.

 

Dad married Mom during Jupiter's Dasa, which, as we

have seen, is his

7th lord and involved in several yogas. This same

period brought him my

sisters, as Jupiter is in the 5th. For my Mom, at the

time of the

marriage, the was running Saturn Dasa, which aspects

the 7th house in

her chart and clearly shows her union with an older

man. Sani also

activates Venus, the 7th lord and Jupiter, the

universal planet of the

spouse in a woman's chart, because these planets are

in Sani's sign.

This is just one of many ways in which Dasas operate

in one's life.

 

Finally, we can speculate on my Mom's chart: what if

she DID have Kuja

Dosha, to offset my Dad's? Let's just take to

theoretical positions of

Mars in her chart, the 2nd and the 8th.

 

For a female's chart, KD is said to be

modified/nullified if Mars is in

the 2nd house. Placing it here, we could say that it

associates with

Mercury yet again - and from this position, we see

that strongly aspects

Dad's Lagna and Mercury, as well as Ketu. Ouch.

 

For a female, having Mars in the 8th house is very

strong, and sexual;

it takes a "he-man" for real to be able to keep up.

Here, we see that if

Mars were indeed in the 8th house, it would again be

in aspect to Dad's

Mercury and Lagna - and this position would not be

good for longevity,

as Mars is the Lagnesh and lord of the Moon in her

chart. As it is she

died relatively young, in her early fifties. Mars here

could suggest an

even more shortened lifespan; perhaps, since this

theoretical position

so aggravates Dad's Lagna, etc, their fights could

have turned fatal for

her. We will never know for sure.

 

To close out, bringing my chart in the picture: note

the Mars placements

of all our charts - as well as the Moon sign Lords.

Mars.

 

Wow.

 

Salaam,

Mu

 

 

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[Guest guest]

i am field of astrology for many yrs.

last week i had a chart for comptiblity for match.

"dasha kuta" and "asta kuta ".

has a high point.but further analysis i found both has a same nadi. that means "

nadi dosh " is there.

is there any remady for nadi dosh. what do i give advise to them.

rest of horoscpe matching weel.

i would like any suggestion or input which help our astrological community.

yours

vijay ananda

my e mail address visra1024.

i live in usa for last 35 yrs. i am from india

[Guest guest]

Dear Mu'Min,

Thank you- astro & non- astro-logically! I am so impressed /and shaken/ by

human story behind astro-symbols

that I don't dare to ask any questions- on Sarpa Yoga in your Dad's chart,

which seems so prominent....

MKS Ju position /in addition to debilitation/ in your mother's chart...It

takes lots of courage and work for one

to reach the point of being able to analyze parents charts/lives, the way

you did.

 

Thank you very much Mu'Min!

Love,

Anna

 

-

"Mu'Min Bey" <mumin_bey

<gjlist>; <vedic astrology>

Monday, January 26, 2004 6:55 PM

[GJ] Family Ties, Part Two: Vedic Relationship Compatibility

Analysis

 

 

> Everyone,

>

> The following comes from my online forum, wherein

> whichi I discussed at length the matters surrounding

> my parent's lives and marriage. This is Part Two,

> which centers primarily on Vedic astrological methods,

> which is significant here. Since there has and

> continues to be interest in the area of chart matching

> (known in the West as "Synastry") I thought to offer

> these writings here. They are real life examples

> valuable for anyone's study of the subject.

>

> As always if there is anyone that has any questions,

> please feel free to ask. I try to answer all those who

> care to write.

>

> Salaam,

> Mu

>

> Family Ties, Part Two: Vedic Analysis Mu'Min Bey

> Jan 25, 2004 20:26 PST

>

> Hi All,

>

> The other night, I spoke on the nature of the

> relationship between my

> parents, and I used standard Western astrological

> principles to

> illuminate key issues going on between them. I also

> used my horoscope to

> explain how I "fit in" into their relationship, and

> how they impacted

> me, and I guess, how I impacted them.

>

> Now, I wish to take an alternate view of the same

> relationship, from the

> Vedic side...

>

> Again, the data -

>

> Dad: Jun 26, 1935 4.45AM EST, Savannah, GA (Gemini

> Lagna)

> Mom: Dec 19, 1949 4.59AM EST, Phildelphia, PA (Scorpio

> Lagna)

> Mu'Min: Dec 2, 1968 9.43AM EST, Philadelphia, PA (Sag

> Lagna)

>

> OK.

>

> My Dad has Gemini Lagna, with Mercury in the Asc,

> giving rise to Bhadra

> Yoga, one of the Pancha Mahapurusha Yogas. This, along

> with a strong

> Budhaditya Yoga, suggests strong Mercurial talents,

> like accounting, or

> teaching. In reality though, my Dad, growing up Black

> poor and in the

> South, had no such access to schooling along those

> lines. After serving

> in the Korean War, my Dad was able to go back to

> school under the GI

> Bill, and get his GED and diploma from vo-tech skills

> school,

> specializing in home construction, and man, did he

> have a talenet for

> building and fixing anything that has to do with the

> home. I have seen

> this man practically build a house from the ground up

> - I have helped hi

> do it several times.

>

> How is this seen, the strong ability to build and fix

> homes - and how is

> his going into business for himself also shown?

>

> Note Mars, very strong in the 4th house; Mars

> represents real estate and

> the 4th house rules the same, and Mars rules workmen

> (along with

> Saturn); Mars being in Mercury's sign, Virgo, suggests

> a potential

> career line for him. Mars also of course, represents

> the soldier,

> especially in Virgo, the sign of "the service". From

> the 4th house, Mars

> throws a full aspect on the 10th house.

>

> My Mom worked her whole adult life as a nurse, in

> varying capacities;

> look at her chart, and mark the positions of both the

> Moon in the 1st

> house (nursing) and Lagnesh Mars in Virgo associated

> with Ketu (healing

> health, etc).

>

> We learn several key things in Jyotish when it comes

> to the question of

> chart matching; the first thing we learn is to scan

> the charts under

> consideration for relationship fitness in terms of the

> 7th house, its

> lord, Venus for the man and Jupiter for the woman.

>

> Dad has Rahu in the 7th, classically not considered

> favorable; indeed,

> even in modern times, Rahu in such a placement

> suggests

> "unconventiality" in some way regarding relationship

> matters. In that he

> was a few months shy of his 35th birthday when he

> married my Mom, who

> wasn't even 20 yet, certainly caused quite a stir in

> my Mom's family,

> especially my grandmother, who loathed my Dad. Going

> further, we see

> that Dad's 7th lord Jupiter is placed in Venus' sign

> Libra and mutually

> aspected by the Moon from the 11th. This is a very

> powerful combination,

> going under Gaja Kersari Yoga, and as such it gives a

> good deal of

> benefits in this life. It is considered both a Dhana

> and Raja Yoga, and

> indeed my Dad was both quite a well known character on

> his circle, as

> well as quite successful at times (his favorite

> pastime, among other

> things, was horse-betting; he loved the races, and

> often won a good bit

> of money. Once he won over 50K).

>

> This combination, along the 5th-11th axis, suggests

> having more

> daughters than sons (which he did; six in all, once

> you take his other

> family into account), as well as a very strong sexual

> appetite. As I

> have said in earlier writings, the 11th house strong

> in a Vedic chart,

> out of phase with the 7th house, can suggest that the

> native may

> inclined to "creep" on his/her spouse, due to not

> being satisfied

> sexually/emotionally. This was certainly the case with

> my Dad.

>

> Venus is in Cancer in the 2nd house in his chart. If

> we rotate his chart

> so that the Moon comes into the Asc position, we see

> that it now is in

> the 4th house, in an angle from the Moon. This

> combination, going under

> the name "Chandra-Shukra Yoga" is highly significant

> when it comes to

> sexual concerns and relationship matters. Anytime

> Venus is in an angular

> house from the Moon, we can expect the person to have

> a higher sexual

> interest and energy than the average, all other things

> being equal, of

> course. Note also, again keeping the Moon in the Asc,

> that Jupiter is

> now in the 7th, a highly favorable placement to have;

> this goes under

> the name of "Satkalatra Yoga" and as such it usually

> confers a spouse of

> high standing and good moral standing. Throughout all

> of their ups and

> downs, my Mom never cheated on my Dad, and remained

> faithful to him

> until the day he died.

>

> Note that Venus, in the 4th from the Moon, is both the

> dispositor of

> Jupiter in the 7th, and is itself disposed of by the

> Moon.

>

> This is where Naksatras, the Lunar zodiacal signs used

> in Jyotish, come

> into play, as we inspect the condition of my Dad's

> Moon. Note that it is

> placed in Bharani, the star associated with intense

> experiences like sex

> - in fact, it's symbol is a vagina!-and it's ruler is

> Venus. Strong

> Sexual urges, thoughts and desires again. He just

> couldn't get enough.

>

> Going back into the Asc for my Dad, we see that

> Jupiter aspects his

> Lagnesh Mercury, and this again gives rise to

> Satkalatra Yoga. However,

> when we consider the relationship of the planets in

> light of the Vedic

> method, we find that Mercury is inimical to Jupiter.

> This mans that,

> while my Mom cared deeply about my Dad, he may not

> have cared as deeply,

> and at least, from time to time, he fell off the sex

> affair wagon.

>

> Still, all in all, his chart suggests a good and happy

> married life, for

> the most part - until we see a key, major cause for

> concern...

>

> Mars in the 4th in his chart gives rise to what is

> known in Jyotish

> circles as Kuja Dosha. Although KD is said to be

> modified or even

> cancelled in the case of a male chart, as long as Mars

> falls in the 1st,

> 4th or 8th houses, we have to look at things quite

> closely here.

>

> First, note that Mars in the 4th house is in Virgo,

> which greatly

> complicates things here; for KD to be nullified here,

> it has be placed

> in the signs of Mars - Aries or Scorpio - and it is

> not. Second, Mars

> rules difficult houses in this chart - the 6th and

> 11th (which is 6

> houses away from the 6th house, compunding the

> inherent difficulty of

> the 6th house; this is a principle known as Bahavat

> Bhavam) - which

> complicates matters along relationship lines. Third,

> Mars is inimical to

> Lagnesh Mercury, and its placement in Virgo is highly

> detrimental to my

> Dad both mentally (deceptive behavoir, telling lies,

> verbal abuse of my

> Mom, and more) and physically (HIV, among other

> things). Finally, Mars

> is a natural malefic, and as such, cannot help but

> bring at least some

> degree of trouble into the relationship sphere,

> especially in it goes

> into "KD" mode, which it is here.

>

> But there's more, as we now turn to my Mom's chart to

> assess things from

> hr side of the aisle. Note that Mars in my Mom's chart

> is in the same

> sign as my Dad's - this brings a highly mixed

> blessing, in that it was

> great for enflaiming the passions, but highly toxic in

> terms of harmony

> and placidity. Plus, as if that weren't enough, Mom's

> Mars, which is

> Lagnesh for her, is conjunct the firery Ketu!!! All I

> could think of

> when I looked these charts over the first time was

> Eddie Murphy's famous

> line, "Now that's a fire!" Way too much stiumlation of

> the Martian

> sensibilities here. That Dad's Mars in his chart

> aspects his 7th house,

> holding Rahu, makes things much too hot to handle. And

> it showed.

>

> To make things worse, Mom does not have Kuja Dosha, a

> major

> consideration here; classical authorities state very

> clearly, that a

> person with Kuja Dosha can successfully mate with

> another who also has

> KD of approximate strength. We'll come back to the

> utility of this

> remedy in a moment, but for now, let's accept the

> premise on its face.

> The fact that she did not have KD does suggest

> strongly that her

> maritial misery in many ways could have been lessend

> greatly if she did

> have it.

>

> Note also the Mars aspect in her chart to her Mercury,

> which is

> augmented even more by Dad's Mars aspecting the same

> poor Mercury. Like

> the Western synastric ties between them in this

> regard, this

> Mercury-Mars combination is not a happy one, and

> almost always inclines

> towards arguments, fights and worse.

>

> Going further with her chart, note that Mom has Venus

> in the 3rd house

> with Jupiter, both in Capricorn. This placement,

> Jupiter that is, is not

> favorable in a woman's chart. As Jupiter represents a

> woman's spouse,

> being in its sign of debilitation suggests that the

> spouse will be of

> "low" stature somehow, either in terms of social

> status, or in terms of

> literally low behavior. In the eyes of my grandmother,

> my Dad was both.

> However, Venus associated with Jupiter gives rise to

> yt another variant

> of Satkalatra Yoga, and this represents my Mom's

> committment to my Dad,

> despite his many shortcomings - and in fairness, it

> also suggests that

> inherent goodness in him, again, in spite of his

> lapses of judgement.

> Venus is the 7th lord. Jupiter and Saturn's aspects on

> the 7th house

> makes for more shaky ground in terms of marital life.

> Highs and lows,

> hills and valleys. And the lack of strong sexual

> aspects in her chart in

> relation to his, accounts in part for the affairs my

> Dad had.

>

> Although my parents had significant challenges to

> face, which we have

> already seen in terms of their Vedic synastry -

> namely, the Mars

> relationship - we can see that they also had some

> "glue" that held them

> together through it all. Note the 7/7 relationship of

> the Suns, Mercurys

> and Venuses between their charts. Such a relationship

> is highly favored

> in Vedic astrology, because it highlights the unity of

> opposites

> principle. Even their Moons are linked together, due

> to the fact that

> they are "owned" by the same planet, Mars. All told,

> this makes for

> compelling links accross the charts, with only one fly

> in the ointment -

> the Ascendants.

>

> Dad has Gemini Lagna, while Mom has Scorpio Lagna.

> They are 6/8 from

> each other, and worse, Mars is inimical to Mercury.

> 6/8 relationships,

> at best, require great amounts of work and adujstment

> to meet the other

> halfway; it seems as if the two people are living on

> other planets,

> instead of living in the same house. That the planets

> involved aren't

> friendly to each other, AND that Mars' role here

> accross the charts is

> so pronounced, only adds even more fuel to the fire.

>

> All of the Martian energy, running totally out of

> control, goes a long

> to explaining why they got married to begin with and

> so soon at that;

> they had a very brief courtship, about a few months.

>

> Now, we turn to what is known as the Kuta system in

> India; it is the

> time honored method of relationship compatibility

> based on the

> relationship of the couple's Moons to each other. This

> method, first

> invented in South India, has existed for centuries and

> has no equivalent

> in the Western astological techniques. Nothing comes

> as close to getting

> a line on every aspect of maritial life of the couple

> under

> consideration, as the Kuta ("points") system.

>

> Looking at my Mom and Dad's Kutas, we see that the

> all-important first

> five Kutas are weak. Dina, Gana and Rasi Kutas in

> particular are very

> weak. These, along with Yoni and Rajju Kutas, are

> considered by many

> jyotishis to be among the most important Kutas, and if

> these five are

> weak, it is not advised to proceed with the match. The

> only exception to

> this rule, is that if the remaining Kutas (commonly

> accepted to by ten

> in number, although I have added a few extra to my

> list) are very

> strong, the match may proceed, due to the "lesser"

> Kutas have given very

> strong indications of success in marriage.

>

> Here, we see that the rest of th Kutas:Stri-Dirga,

> Rasyadhipati, Vedha,

> Nadi, Vashya, are excellent. Only Mahendra and Varna

> Kutas are abyssmal.

> Yoni and Rajju Kutas, the last two of the first five,

> are passable.

>

> Therefore, we get a clear picture of what we have

> already seen in

> comparing their charts: that their sexual life would

> be fair but not

> quite even in terms of needs; that they would

> nevertheless have several

> children; that while they clearly had some things in

> common, there were

> at least as many where they were in serious

> contention; that they both

> had differing views of ethics and morality; that they

> were able to

> weather the storms of life together fairly well, and

> that their union

> would create serious trouble in the extended family,

> my Mom's

> grandmother in particular. Finally, the Kuta "survey"

> found that my

> parents would likely stay together until they died,

> which is what

> happened.

>

> Dad married Mom during Jupiter's Dasa, which, as we

> have seen, is his

> 7th lord and involved in several yogas. This same

> period brought him my

> sisters, as Jupiter is in the 5th. For my Mom, at the

> time of the

> marriage, the was running Saturn Dasa, which aspects

> the 7th house in

> her chart and clearly shows her union with an older

> man. Sani also

> activates Venus, the 7th lord and Jupiter, the

> universal planet of the

> spouse in a woman's chart, because these planets are

> in Sani's sign.

> This is just one of many ways in which Dasas operate

> in one's life.

>

> Finally, we can speculate on my Mom's chart: what if

> she DID have Kuja

> Dosha, to offset my Dad's? Let's just take to

> theoretical positions of

> Mars in her chart, the 2nd and the 8th.

>

> For a female's chart, KD is said to be

> modified/nullified if Mars is in

> the 2nd house. Placing it here, we could say that it

> associates with

> Mercury yet again - and from this position, we see

> that strongly aspects

> Dad's Lagna and Mercury, as well as Ketu. Ouch.

>

> For a female, having Mars in the 8th house is very

> strong, and sexual;

> it takes a "he-man" for real to be able to keep up.

> Here, we see that if

> Mars were indeed in the 8th house, it would again be

> in aspect to Dad's

> Mercury and Lagna - and this position would not be

> good for longevity,

> as Mars is the Lagnesh and lord of the Moon in her

> chart. As it is she

> died relatively young, in her early fifties. Mars here

> could suggest an

> even more shortened lifespan; perhaps, since this

> theoretical position

> so aggravates Dad's Lagna, etc, their fights could

> have turned fatal for

> her. We will never know for sure.

>

> To close out, bringing my chart in the picture: note

> the Mars placements

> of all our charts - as well as the Moon sign Lords.

> Mars.

>

> Wow.

>

> Salaam,

> Mu

>

>

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