2-[GJ]& Sonu, from Mark, 12/26.....What does career mean?/Saturn in 10th

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Dear Sonu & All:

 

Saturn is in many ways the most difficult planet to understand.

 

Perhaps it's because of the terriblly how of tune with Saturn age in which

we live.

 

In other ways it's because we're ourselves out of tune with Saturn!

 

I do know some, who have good, better or great Saturns!

 

Wow....what great role models they are for the rest of us.

 

Saturn in 10th.... does often reflect....'stop' stagnation, delays...

and conflicts....

 

But, Saturn, like every other planet is trying to simultaneously give us

back our karmas, ie. consequences of our actions.... to

1) show us the quality of our actions....

and

#2)...to give us an indication of what better needs to be done...

 

But, because Saturn is about learning to 'do' things with more silence,

restfulness or grace..... we are confused....

 

Very few people tell us about the importance of rest....

I even remember my parents trying to tell me....but I couldn't hear...

 

And it wasn't until I was living my own life, that I felt something was

wrong.

Then, I learned meditation.... and felt better, but still couldn't

understand it when they said...'oh, by the way, rest is the basis of

activity!'

 

I remember thinking....what a strange concept...

 

Now, that I'm in my 12th year of Saturn...and had my whole life slam to a

halt in 1991.... I can happily say, having spent a long while, contemplating

and studying Saturn....

 

now, this period has become the happiest period of my life...

 

Saturn just teaches us the value, importance ...even the role of rest... in

life...

 

Without it.... without the Shiva...element in life.... life would be lost...

 

And because most don't rest enough....then....life is lost...

 

baseless, restless, and without a foundation....

 

As it turns out....rest or silence.....in fact being.... is!....the basis of

life....

and with 'that'.....then life.....can evolve....literally in terms...of all

possibilities...

 

Test this!..... When you're feeling delays and disappointments....grief...

and turmoil....

and the first impulse is what more can I do...

this time....

take a second... take a deep breathe.... and be more silent...let it go....

and just be...

 

Saturn in 10th....demands.... surrender....

it's helping us become more silent....

 

 

take care

 

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

PS... also do a daily jyotish newsletter that you and all might like.

if you're interested email me at m.kincaid

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> "Babu" <babu__1

> gjlist

> Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:15:13 -0000

> <gjlist>

> Re: [GJ] Re: What does career mean?/Saturn in 10th

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> Yes, I believe you.

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> And a strong JUPITER in the 10th makes a person a 'bawarchi', ( A Cook)!

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> "delhi_tagore" <delhi_tagore

> <gjlist>

> Tuesday, December 23, 2003 5:11 AM

> [GJ] Re: What does career mean?/Saturn in 10th

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>> Hi,

>> I know of some one (in my family) who has ZERo career (no earning and

>> no hope of earning also although drive for that is present) and that

>> fellow has Saturn in 10th house (with scorpio asd). In this case,

>> saturn is present in Leo Sign (ruled by Sun). That person has faced

>> difficulties since the very young age and is still in difficulties.

>>

>> Regards

>> Sonu

>>

>> gjlist, "mary1quinn" <mary1quinn> wrote:

>>> Thank you, Richard, for a great answer. I thought I was perfectly

>>> content with it but something's been eating at the back of my brain

>>> and still doesn't make sense to me. Forgive me if I'm

>>> misunderstanding or just plain stupid here.

>>>

>>> In your answer to someone about Saturn in the 10th, you talk

>>> about "standing" in the 10th with Saturn applying pressure, in

>>> essence, on one's head. That got me thinking about the 4th. I

>> thought

>>> one "stood" in the 4th. Isn't that the house of one's foundation or

>>> solid ground? It makes sense that the 10th is the house of goals

>>> being that it is out there in the world, above the horizon, and as

>>> the highest point in the chart, the place one reaches farthest

>>> towards. But wouldn't one's drive or purpose or conviction or will

>> be

>>> an internal thing? Wouldn't you need a strong inner foundation,

>>> strength of character or purpose, to continually reach for anything

>>> at all, especially against all odds? Wouldn't that come from below

>>> the horizon, internally, from the "core" of one's being and

>> therefore

>>> the 4th?

>>>

>>> In the movie Stargate, having the spatial address of a planet you

>>> wanted to travel to was useless unless you had the 7th symbol of

>> the

>>> planet you were starting from. Reaching point B required having a

>>> point A. So wouldn't part of one's success in reaching the goals of

>>> the 10th come from drive in the 4th?

>>>

>>> Originally, I asked if the 10th would also represent one's goals or

>>> one's purpose because I know someone with no career but with very

>>> strong goals/purpose, etc. It seemed to me that this pointed to

>>> weakness in the 10th but strength somewhere else. In your answer,

>> you

>>> seemed to say that success in the 10th doesn't have to be success

>> in

>>> an established "career". But come to think of it, the person I'm

>>> thinking of doesn't really have all that much success achieving

>> their

>>> goals. They have tremendous drive, a solid idea of their goals,

>>> extreme strength of character and a very strong work ethic. With

>> one

>>> thing or another, though, those goals are elusive little devils.

>> This

>>> seems to be echoed in the answers of people with Saturn in the 10th

>>> who say they work like the dickens but just don't seem to achieve

>> in

>>> proportion to their efforts.

>>>

>>> But this seems to be a slightly different case than that of your

>>> friend who has neither a career nor, it would seem, do they "do

>>> anything" with their life, to quote you. So how strong or weak is

>>> your friend's 4th? Or am I full of doodoo on this whole 4th

>>> house "drive/purpose" idea?

>>>

>>> Second question that has come up in thinking about your recent

>>> answers: Is what we do to achieve success in the 10th also

>>> represented by the 10th? By 'what we do' I'm also including what we

>>> do to get in our own way. Going again to your friend. You mention

>> her

>>> Saturn in the 10th and then go on to imply that her use of the

>>> Saturnine 'hammer of truth', if you will, on the toes of everyone

>>> around her is possibly part of her lack of success. I'm not sure if

>>> you mean that she doesn't have a career because of this or that if

>>> she did have a career it might be less than completely successful

>> due

>>> to this enthusiastic hammering. Or maybe you didn't mean this at

>> all.

>>> You mentioned this in an answer to someone else stating that maybe

>>> they needed to accept some truths they are not accepting in order

>> to

>>> have greater success. Possibly this was the same gentleman who may

>>> not be as Venusian as his more business-successful brothers are,

>> I'm

>>> not sure, my memory could be wrong here. Anyway if one is

>> interested

>>> in looking in the chart to see where one is contributing to one's

>> own

>>> career failings - or to see what one needs to accept/learn/etc to

>>> improve one's career, does one look to the 10th? Is that what

>> you're

>>> saying? Or would you look perhaps into the 9th as the 'career

>> losses'

>>> or 'self-undoing in regards to career'? There's a logical argument

>> in

>>> favor of either house, so would you look to both?

>>>

>>> Anyway, just wondering.

>>

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>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

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