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To new people: I will answer questions if I can, if they are singular and

not whole charts. If you post your birth data and ask for a reading, I

personally can't answer that calling, but single questions I can and will

now again, now that I'm feeling much better.

 

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Dear Das,

I have one question.I have ketu MD running now.Saturn's 10th aspect falls on

ketu in the natal chart.How does this influence ketu's effects?

Birth details: 8th April 1966 2-28 PM Bombay,India.

Best regards,

vivek.

 

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>To new people: I will answer questions if I can, if they are singular and

>not whole charts. If you post your birth data and ask for a reading, I

>personally can't answer that calling, but single questions I can and will

>now again, now that I'm feeling much better.

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> "Vivek " <keviv90

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> I have ketu MD running now.Saturn's 10th aspect falls on ketu in the natal

> chart.How does this influence ketu's effects?

 

 

It is my experience that the planets pretty much act the same all the time.

 

So for example, Saturn being restrive, so he'll constrict/restrict the

Ketu's things.

 

Saturn's aspect is unstoppable, or anything about Saturn- one of his

qualities is this great power- this overwhealming reality of impact that he

has.

 

So Ketu isn't "more powerful" than Saturn. So everything about Ketu is going

to be "Saturnized".

 

So in the material sense, this may often be good, but in the spiritual

sense, it makes things even more intense than normal.

 

Like it's one thing to meet a renunciate, a sannyasi. But it's even more

intense if he's old and weak, approaching death. That's even more heavy.

 

Yogi Karve is like a Ketu/Saturn conjunction.

 

These two added together spell very spiritual, close to death, type

expressions of energy.

 

If it comes to a car, it will be old, breaking, but inspiring in some way,

or awful and embarrasing to drive.

 

The strongest of Hindu style Sannyas, like the combination would be very

dear to the original Sankaracarya, or any real Sannyasi.

 

It can expose one also to things like living in horrible conditions if it's

the house of real estate. In house of money, it can be very depriving.

 

In the mind, it's very spiritual, contemplating ultimate reality.

 

 

 

 

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Dear Das,

Thanks for replying.Will you be kind enough to clarify one thing --

On one hand you say that saturn will constrict/restrict the ketu things.

On the other hand you say that in the spiritual sense it makes things even more

intense than normal.

Ketu is about spirituality isn't he? So how can restricting ketu enhance

spirituality?

One more thing -- How does saturn being AK affect things? AK is supposed to lead

one to ketu yet saturn restricts ketu??

As you must have guessed,the thing worrying me now is whether I will get the

full benefits of ketu dasha owing to saturn's aspect.

Best regards,

vivek.

 

On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 Das Goravani wrote :

>

>

> > "Vivek " <keviv90

> >

> > I have ketu MD running now.Saturn's 10th aspect falls on ketu in the natal

> > chart.How does this influence ketu's effects?

>

>

>It is my experience that the planets pretty much act the same all the time.

>

>So for example, Saturn being restrive, so he'll constrict/restrict the

>Ketu's things.

>

>Saturn's aspect is unstoppable, or anything about Saturn- one of his

>qualities is this great power- this overwhealming reality of impact that he

>has.

>

>So Ketu isn't "more powerful" than Saturn. So everything about Ketu is going

>to be "Saturnized".

>

>So in the material sense, this may often be good, but in the spiritual

>sense, it makes things even more intense than normal.

>

>Like it's one thing to meet a renunciate, a sannyasi. But it's even more

>intense if he's old and weak, approaching death. That's even more heavy.

>

>Yogi Karve is like a Ketu/Saturn conjunction.

>

>These two added together spell very spiritual, close to death, type

>expressions of energy.

>

>If it comes to a car, it will be old, breaking, but inspiring in some way,

>or awful and embarrasing to drive.

>

>The strongest of Hindu style Sannyas, like the combination would be very

>dear to the original Sankaracarya, or any real Sannyasi.

>

>It can expose one also to things like living in horrible conditions if it's

>the house of real estate. In house of money, it can be very depriving.

>

>In the mind, it's very spiritual, contemplating ultimate reality.

>

>

>

>

>Das Goravani, President

>

>2852 Willamette St, #353

>Eugene, OR, 97405, USA-America

>Voice: or in America

>

>

>http://www.DancingMoonInc.com

>

>

>

>

>Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

>: gjlist-

>

>

>

> Links

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> gjlist/

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Respected Das,

 

i have saturn in 10th house in aquarius.

my details are as follows:

name: Pradeep

dob: 23- 03- 1965

time of birth: 10.05 am (morning)

place of birth: Pune. Maharashtra. India

18 32 N lat

73 51 E long.

i have always struggled hard in my life till 28

years of my age.

i lost my father when i was 12 years old. The weakest

point in me is bluntness and being outspoken and

honest

which leads to tough times in life. I am sick of

facing financial problems and always surrounded by

controversy.

i am looking out for a job change so that i can

improve financially. what are my career prospects in

future. i request the

learned members to guide me in this regard.

 

regards.

pradeep.

 

 

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> "Vivek " <keviv90

>

> On one hand you say that saturn will constrict/restrict the ketu things.

> On the other hand you say that in the spiritual sense it makes things even

> more intense than normal.

> Ketu is about spirituality isn't he? So how can restricting ketu enhance

> spirituality?

 

Because Saturn is also about those things. In this way, these two agree. For

example, Ketu is the begger karaka, as in, the bhikshus, the saint beggars,

or monks, the danda carrying sannyasins- so Saturn supports that ashram.

They cross over in that area. So there are many such areas where Ketu and

Saturn agree. Both have touch with death and hardships, outcaste, low caste,

etc., both reduce and minimize, darken, tarnish, what have you. In spiritual

life, they both have their own ways of increasing spiritual life, but

together they are the ultimate punch, the 1-2 punch that can knock out

anything material. Together they create a mood, view, situation, which goes

towards liberation from attachment and life in this world in general. So

like I said, one may say "meet a Sannyasi", and with the other, it gets

changed to "meet and old sannyasi". Well an old Sannyasi is better because

he's even MORE likely to be burnt out on material life than the young

Sannyasi. So by adding Saturn to Ketu you increase many of it's better

parts, in spiritual life. Saturn is "Truth". So adding truth to anything is

good for spiritual life, which should be about truth, or Saturn.

 

 

> One more thing -- How does saturn being AK affect things? AK is supposed to

> lead one to ketu yet saturn restricts ketu??

 

I do not have realization about the karaka system.

 

 

> As you must have guessed,the thing worrying me now is whether I will get the

> full benefits of ketu dasha owing to saturn's aspect.

 

Those parts of Ketu which are not aligned with Saturn will be more

restricted than they would have been without Saturns aspect. Those things

that in agreement, such as renunciation, will be enhanced by the combination

of the two who agree. It's all restriction, but sometimes that's wanted,

sometimes not. Take for example when you use a strap to hold something

together. That's a restriction that you want to stay, to hold. Inside the

body are many such connections that are needed, and same with life, the

world, the emotions, our dealings.

 

At other times, we want looseness and not a bond. Like for example, someone

might say "My neck is tight and sore". That's not good. So it depends on the

application of Saturn.

 

Just in general, acceptance of and peace with Saturn is required for

Spiritual Life. But Saints don't display the negative qualities of Saturn-

the are past it, that's the point, they learned it and are past it. But they

tend to then bear and carry those things in the eyes of others, like "Gosh

the monks live in such austere conditions". They don't care, but to others,

it seems like Saturn.

 

So in general, Saturn is in agreement with many of the things Ketu wants to

teach and do.

 

Rick

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Thanks Das,I have understood.

vivek.

 

On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 Das Goravani wrote :

>

>

> > "Vivek " <keviv90

> >

> > On one hand you say that saturn will constrict/restrict the ketu things.

> > On the other hand you say that in the spiritual sense it makes things even

> > more intense than normal.

> > Ketu is about spirituality isn't he? So how can restricting ketu enhance

> > spirituality?

>

>Because Saturn is also about those things. In this way, these two agree. For

>example, Ketu is the begger karaka, as in, the bhikshus, the saint beggars,

>or monks, the danda carrying sannyasins- so Saturn supports that ashram.

>They cross over in that area. So there are many such areas where Ketu and

>Saturn agree. Both have touch with death and hardships, outcaste, low caste,

>etc., both reduce and minimize, darken, tarnish, what have you. In spiritual

>life, they both have their own ways of increasing spiritual life, but

>together they are the ultimate punch, the 1-2 punch that can knock out

>anything material. Together they create a mood, view, situation, which goes

>towards liberation from attachment and life in this world in general. So

>like I said, one may say "meet a Sannyasi", and with the other, it gets

>changed to "meet and old sannyasi". Well an old Sannyasi is better because

>he's even MORE likely to be burnt out on material life than the young

>Sannyasi. So by adding Saturn to Ketu you increase many of it's better

>parts, in spiritual life. Saturn is "Truth". So adding truth to anything is

>good for spiritual life, which should be about truth, or Saturn.

>

>

> > One more thing -- How does saturn being AK affect things? AK is supposed to

> > lead one to ketu yet saturn restricts ketu??

>

>I do not have realization about the karaka system.

>

>

> > As you must have guessed,the thing worrying me now is whether I will get the

> > full benefits of ketu dasha owing to saturn's aspect.

>

>Those parts of Ketu which are not aligned with Saturn will be more

>restricted than they would have been without Saturns aspect. Those things

>that in agreement, such as renunciation, will be enhanced by the combination

>of the two who agree. It's all restriction, but sometimes that's wanted,

>sometimes not. Take for example when you use a strap to hold something

>together. That's a restriction that you want to stay, to hold. Inside the

>body are many such connections that are needed, and same with life, the

>world, the emotions, our dealings.

>

>At other times, we want looseness and not a bond. Like for example, someone

>might say "My neck is tight and sore". That's not good. So it depends on the

>application of Saturn.

>

>Just in general, acceptance of and peace with Saturn is required for

>Spiritual Life. But Saints don't display the negative qualities of Saturn-

>the are past it, that's the point, they learned it and are past it. But they

>tend to then bear and carry those things in the eyes of others, like "Gosh

>the monks live in such austere conditions". They don't care, but to others,

>it seems like Saturn.

>

>So in general, Saturn is in agreement with many of the things Ketu wants to

>teach and do.

>

>Rick

>

>

>

>

>Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

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>

>

>

> Links

>

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> gjlist/

>

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> gjlist

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When it comes to renunciation,moksha,spiritual development,etc -- which is the

bigger deciding factor? ketu or the 12th house.

I mean you could have good placement of ketu and ketu dasha but if the 12th

house isn't promising,will the result materialise?

You have seen my chart.I have lagna lord moon with exalted ketu in 5th house and

jupiter in 12th house.

How will this jupiter influence ketu dasha?

How will moon's debilitation influence ketu's effects? Both are very close-- a

fraction of a degree apart.

How will ketu dasha perform materially? You have referred to ketu as a beggar

sanyasi or bhikshuk.Does it mean that I will become the same?

My birth details: 8th April 1966 -- 2.28 PM -- Bombay -- cancer lagna.

You were kind enough to reply to my questions earlier.I hope you will do the

same now.

Best wishes,

vivek.

 

 

 

On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 Das Goravani wrote :

>

>

> > "Vivek " <keviv90

> >

> > On one hand you say that saturn will constrict/restrict the ketu things.

> > On the other hand you say that in the spiritual sense it makes things even

> > more intense than normal.

> > Ketu is about spirituality isn't he? So how can restricting ketu enhance

> > spirituality?

>

>Because Saturn is also about those things. In this way, these two agree. For

>example, Ketu is the begger karaka, as in, the bhikshus, the saint beggars,

>or monks, the danda carrying sannyasins- so Saturn supports that ashram.

>They cross over in that area. So there are many such areas where Ketu and

>Saturn agree. Both have touch with death and hardships, outcaste, low caste,

>etc., both reduce and minimize, darken, tarnish, what have you. In spiritual

>life, they both have their own ways of increasing spiritual life, but

>together they are the ultimate punch, the 1-2 punch that can knock out

>anything material. Together they create a mood, view, situation, which goes

>towards liberation from attachment and life in this world in general. So

>like I said, one may say "meet a Sannyasi", and with the other, it gets

>changed to "meet and old sannyasi". Well an old Sannyasi is better because

>he's even MORE likely to be burnt out on material life than the young

>Sannyasi. So by adding Saturn to Ketu you increase many of it's better

>parts, in spiritual life. Saturn is "Truth". So adding truth to anything is

>good for spiritual life, which should be about truth, or Saturn.

>

>

> > One more thing -- How does saturn being AK affect things? AK is supposed to

> > lead one to ketu yet saturn restricts ketu??

>

>I do not have realization about the karaka system.

>

>

> > As you must have guessed,the thing worrying me now is whether I will get the

> > full benefits of ketu dasha owing to saturn's aspect.

>

>Those parts of Ketu which are not aligned with Saturn will be more

>restricted than they would have been without Saturns aspect. Those things

>that in agreement, such as renunciation, will be enhanced by the combination

>of the two who agree. It's all restriction, but sometimes that's wanted,

>sometimes not. Take for example when you use a strap to hold something

>together. That's a restriction that you want to stay, to hold. Inside the

>body are many such connections that are needed, and same with life, the

>world, the emotions, our dealings.

>

>At other times, we want looseness and not a bond. Like for example, someone

>might say "My neck is tight and sore". That's not good. So it depends on the

>application of Saturn.

>

>Just in general, acceptance of and peace with Saturn is required for

>Spiritual Life. But Saints don't display the negative qualities of Saturn-

>the are past it, that's the point, they learned it and are past it. But they

>tend to then bear and carry those things in the eyes of others, like "Gosh

>the monks live in such austere conditions". They don't care, but to others,

>it seems like Saturn.

>

>So in general, Saturn is in agreement with many of the things Ketu wants to

>teach and do.

>

>Rick

>

>

>

>

>Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

>: gjlist-

>

>

>

> Links

>

>

> gjlist/

>

>

> gjlist

>

>Your

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello dear Vivek,

 

Hare Krishna.

 

It is a human nature to seek higher spiritual advice when the time comes.

Lord Shri Krishna says in Bhagavat Gita, " Time I am ". This is what the

astrology is all about, Kal - Time, to know the purpose of Hhuman Form of

life before the time is over. This opportunity is only available to the

Human Species of life i.e. us.

 

At present you are in the sub period of weak Mars till April 07,2005 under

the influence of malefic transit Jupiter in Virgo aspecting closely natal

Mars and Sun in the 9h of Jupiter at mid point of Pisces beside the transit

Ketu your main dasha Lord in 4h. of Libra aspecting malefic natal Jupiter in

12h and the transit of Saturn in 12h of Gemini as well indicate strongly

to impell you to inquire about Moksha as per your query after getting

materially frustrated. The weak sub period of Mars will end on April 7,2005

and the exalted sub-period of Rahu will commence in the main period of

exalted Ketu which will last till April 25,2006. During this period you

will cultivate some good Karmic account, no doubt.

 

Your ultimate goal is to cultivate spiritual life. My suggestion to you is

that you must have a balance plan to avert any set back after the good

period of Rahu is over as the planets configuration in your natal chart at

birth also strongly indicate that you should cultivate spiritually more to

make your life sublime.

 

May Lord Shri Krishna bless you and your family.

 

Hari BOL. OM TAT SAT.

 

With my best wishes..............Amar Puri.

 

>"Vivek " <keviv90

>valist

>valist

>Re: [GJ] 936 members?

>18 Feb 2005 10:02:10 -0000

>

>

>When it comes to renunciation,moksha,spiritual development,etc -- which is

>the bigger deciding factor? ketu or the 12th house.

>I mean you could have good placement of ketu and ketu dasha but if the 12th

>house isn't promising,will the result materialise?

>You have seen my chart.I have lagna lord moon with exalted ketu in 5th

>house and jupiter in 12th house.

>How will this jupiter influence ketu dasha?

>How will moon's debilitation influence ketu's effects? Both are very

>close-- a fraction of a degree apart.

>How will ketu dasha perform materially? You have referred to ketu as a

>beggar sanyasi or bhikshuk.Does it mean that I will become the same?

>My birth details: 8th April 1966 -- 2.28 PM -- Bombay -- cancer lagna.

>You were kind enough to reply to my questions earlier.I hope you will do

>the same now.

>Best wishes,

>vivek.

>

>

>On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 Das Goravani wrote :

> >

> >

> > > "Vivek " <keviv90

> > >

> > > On one hand you say that saturn will constrict/restrict the ketu

>things.

> > > On the other hand you say that in the spiritual sense it makes things

>even

> > > more intense than normal.

> > > Ketu is about spirituality isn't he? So how can restricting ketu

>enhance

> > > spirituality?

> >

> >Because Saturn is also about those things. In this way, these two agree.

>For

> >example, Ketu is the begger karaka, as in, the bhikshus, the saint

>beggars,

> >or monks, the danda carrying sannyasins- so Saturn supports that ashram.

> >They cross over in that area. So there are many such areas where Ketu and

> >Saturn agree. Both have touch with death and hardships, outcaste, low

>caste,

> >etc., both reduce and minimize, darken, tarnish, what have you. In

>spiritual

> >life, they both have their own ways of increasing spiritual life, but

> >together they are the ultimate punch, the 1-2 punch that can knock out

> >anything material. Together they create a mood, view, situation, which

>goes

> >towards liberation from attachment and life in this world in general. So

> >like I said, one may say "meet a Sannyasi", and with the other, it gets

> >changed to "meet and old sannyasi". Well an old Sannyasi is better

>because

> >he's even MORE likely to be burnt out on material life than the young

> >Sannyasi. So by adding Saturn to Ketu you increase many of it's better

> >parts, in spiritual life. Saturn is "Truth". So adding truth to anything

>is

> >good for spiritual life, which should be about truth, or Saturn.

> >

> >

> > > One more thing -- How does saturn being AK affect things? AK is

>supposed to

> > > lead one to ketu yet saturn restricts ketu??

> >

> >I do not have realization about the karaka system.

> >

> >

> > > As you must have guessed,the thing worrying me now is whether I will

>get the

> > > full benefits of ketu dasha owing to saturn's aspect.

> >

> >Those parts of Ketu which are not aligned with Saturn will be more

> >restricted than they would have been without Saturns aspect. Those things

> >that in agreement, such as renunciation, will be enhanced by the

>combination

> >of the two who agree. It's all restriction, but sometimes that's wanted,

> >sometimes not. Take for example when you use a strap to hold something

> >together. That's a restriction that you want to stay, to hold. Inside the

> >body are many such connections that are needed, and same with life, the

> >world, the emotions, our dealings.

> >

> >At other times, we want looseness and not a bond. Like for example,

>someone

> >might say "My neck is tight and sore". That's not good. So it depends on

>the

> >application of Saturn.

> >

> >Just in general, acceptance of and peace with Saturn is required for

> >Spiritual Life. But Saints don't display the negative qualities of

>Saturn-

> >the are past it, that's the point, they learned it and are past it. But

>they

> >tend to then bear and carry those things in the eyes of others, like

>"Gosh

> >the monks live in such austere conditions". They don't care, but to

>others,

> >it seems like Saturn.

> >

> >So in general, Saturn is in agreement with many of the things Ketu wants

>to

> >teach and do.

> >

> >Rick

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> >: gjlist-

> >

> >

> >

> > Links

> >

> >

> > gjlist/

> >

> >

> > gjlist

> >

> >Your

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Hare krsna,

 

My name is Chandra Sekhar Sahal, born on 20 January 1969 in Calcutta at

23.55 Hours.

 

In my horoscope KETU is in 12th house with Jupiter.

The placement of other planets

 

Lagna : Libra

Libra (1 house): Mars

Capricorn (4 house): Mercury and Sun

Aqarius (5 house) : Venus and Moon

Pisces (6 House) : Saturn and Rahu

Virgo (12 house) : Jupiter and Ketu

Current Mahadasa : Saturn (from 12 December 1995)

Current Antardasa : Venus (upto December 2005)

 

I would be grateful if anyone could analyse MOKSHA for me.

 

Regards

 

Chandra Sekhar Sahal

 

>"fas fas" <foreignersassistance

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>valist

>RE: Re: [GJ] 936 members?

>Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:31:45 +0000

>

>

>Hello dear Vivek,

>

>Hare Krishna.

>

>It is a human nature to seek higher spiritual advice when the time comes.

>Lord Shri Krishna says in Bhagavat Gita, " Time I am ". This is what the

>astrology is all about, Kal - Time, to know the purpose of Hhuman Form of

>life before the time is over. This opportunity is only available to the

>Human Species of life i.e. us.

>

>At present you are in the sub period of weak Mars till April 07,2005 under

>the influence of malefic transit Jupiter in Virgo aspecting closely natal

>Mars and Sun in the 9h of Jupiter at mid point of Pisces beside the

>transit

>Ketu your main dasha Lord in 4h. of Libra aspecting malefic natal Jupiter

>in

>12h and the transit of Saturn in 12h of Gemini as well indicate strongly

>to impell you to inquire about Moksha as per your query after getting

>materially frustrated. The weak sub period of Mars will end on April

>7,2005

>and the exalted sub-period of Rahu will commence in the main period of

>exalted Ketu which will last till April 25,2006. During this period you

>will cultivate some good Karmic account, no doubt.

>

>Your ultimate goal is to cultivate spiritual life. My suggestion to you is

>that you must have a balance plan to avert any set back after the good

>period of Rahu is over as the planets configuration in your natal chart at

>birth also strongly indicate that you should cultivate spiritually more to

>make your life sublime.

>

>May Lord Shri Krishna bless you and your family.

>

>Hari BOL. OM TAT SAT.

>

>With my best wishes..............Amar Puri.

>

> >"Vivek " <keviv90

> >valist

> >valist

> >Re: [GJ] 936 members?

> >18 Feb 2005 10:02:10 -0000

> >

> >

> >When it comes to renunciation,moksha,spiritual development,etc -- which

>is

> >the bigger deciding factor? ketu or the 12th house.

> >I mean you could have good placement of ketu and ketu dasha but if the

>12th

> >house isn't promising,will the result materialise?

> >You have seen my chart.I have lagna lord moon with exalted ketu in 5th

> >house and jupiter in 12th house.

> >How will this jupiter influence ketu dasha?

> >How will moon's debilitation influence ketu's effects? Both are very

> >close-- a fraction of a degree apart.

> >How will ketu dasha perform materially? You have referred to ketu as a

> >beggar sanyasi or bhikshuk.Does it mean that I will become the same?

> >My birth details: 8th April 1966 -- 2.28 PM -- Bombay -- cancer lagna.

> >You were kind enough to reply to my questions earlier.I hope you will do

> >the same now.

> >Best wishes,

> >vivek.

> > 

> >

> >

> >On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 Das Goravani wrote :

> > >

> > >

> > > > "Vivek " <keviv90

> > > >

> > > > On one hand you say that saturn will constrict/restrict the ketu

> >things.

> > > > On the other hand you say that in the spiritual sense it makes

>things

> >even

> > > > more intense than normal.

> > > > Ketu is about spirituality isn't he? So how can restricting ketu

> >enhance

> > > > spirituality?

> > >

> > >Because Saturn is also about those things. In this way, these two

>agree.

> >For

> > >example, Ketu is the begger karaka, as in, the bhikshus, the saint

> >beggars,

> > >or monks, the danda carrying sannyasins- so Saturn supports that

>ashram.

> > >They cross over in that area. So there are many such areas where Ketu

>and

> > >Saturn agree. Both have touch with death and hardships, outcaste, low

> >caste,

> > >etc., both reduce and minimize, darken, tarnish, what have you. In

> >spiritual

> > >life, they both have their own ways of increasing spiritual life, but

> > >together they are the ultimate punch, the 1-2 punch that can knock out

> > >anything material. Together they create a mood, view, situation, which

> >goes

> > >towards liberation from attachment and life in this world in general.

>So

> > >like I said, one may say "meet a Sannyasi", and with the other, it gets

> > >changed to "meet and old sannyasi". Well an old Sannyasi is better

> >because

> > >he's even MORE likely to be burnt out on material life than the young

> > >Sannyasi. So by adding Saturn to Ketu you increase many of it's better

> > >parts, in spiritual life. Saturn is "Truth". So adding truth to

>anything

> >is

> > >good for spiritual life, which should be about truth, or Saturn.

> > >

> > >

> > > > One more thing -- How does saturn being AK affect things? AK is

> >supposed to

> > > > lead one to ketu yet saturn restricts ketu??

> > >

> > >I do not have realization about the karaka system.

> > >

> > >

> > > > As you must have guessed,the thing worrying me now is whether I will

> >get the

> > > > full benefits of ketu dasha owing to saturn's aspect.

> > >

> > >Those parts of Ketu which are not aligned with Saturn will be more

> > >restricted than they would have been without Saturns aspect. Those

>things

> > >that in agreement, such as renunciation, will be enhanced by the

> >combination

> > >of the two who agree. It's all restriction, but sometimes that's

>wanted,

> > >sometimes not. Take for example when you use a strap to hold something

> > >together. That's a restriction that you want to stay, to hold. Inside

>the

> > >body are many such connections that are needed, and same with life, the

> > >world, the emotions, our dealings.

> > >

> > >At other times, we want looseness and not a bond. Like for example,

> >someone

> > >might say "My neck is tight and sore". That's not good. So it depends

>on

> >the

> > >application of Saturn.

> > >

> > >Just in general, acceptance of and peace with Saturn is required for

> > >Spiritual Life. But Saints don't display the negative qualities of

> >Saturn-

> > >the are past it, that's the point, they learned it and are past it. But

> >they

> > >tend to then bear and carry those things in the eyes of others, like

> >"Gosh

> > >the monks live in such austere conditions". They don't care, but to

> >others,

> > >it seems like Saturn.

> > >

> > >So in general, Saturn is in agreement with many of the things Ketu

>wants

> >to

> > >teach and do.

> > >

> > >Rick

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> > >: gjlist-

> > >

> > >

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> > > gjlist/

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> > > gjlist

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