[hanskpvedic] Subject -Brotthers Sisters

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<I'm sending my son's data for your /welcome!/ research

Definitively the only child,

July 11, 1976, at 5:10

Belgrade, Serbia,

/Labour difficult- blue asphyxia on birth, didn't cry/breath at birth-

reanimated /recorded 3 min. after birth/>

Dear List ,

Indira Gandhi was born on 19.11.1917 at 23.03Hrs at Allahabad,

 

So for i always used Navmasha Chart for predicting siblings etc. But going

Through Jamini Sutra's it occure to me that by application of Gaun Pada the

Muni has reffered to the idividual identification in the world as is

revealed through his wife , brothers sisters and children. He has used

Arudha lagna to define ones projection due to his own step in the world and

Gauna Pada for defining individual through ones siblings wife and children.

 

Jamini has defined Saturan Venus and Mercury in ascendent as obstructing

birth, he has further hinted at the loss of the mother with pregency when

Venus goes to the 8th house from the concerned pregnency. Odd signs give

many births and even less births.

This many and few will be applicable as per the nation and community.

 

Some author use the ilustration for Gaun Pada as for D-7 and D-3. I agree to

its application to a greater extent to D-7 andD-3. But then too considering

the Gauna pada linkning it in D-3 as well as in d-7.

 

For me application of KP cusp chart is like looking at the molecule of a

compound made up of 12 different elements and the cusp points relating to

the particular individual elobrating about each element.

In application of the Divisional Chart , every body use Vargotam, planet in

his own varga , rashi aspects etc.

The Divisional Chartrs are used and applied as one applies the same

qualities to the molecule of a matter, looking into division as a whole and

applying same aspects etc as are applied in the Rashi Chart. Where as

division chart act like an element of a compound made of different elements

differentiating different

patterns of the elements of which an individual is made of.Thus a division

chart can never reflect as a rashi chart can reflect, but combining the two

will

give specfic picture of the native.

To emerge the two , I give one method to the fellow astrologers to see the

strength of a planet and his aspect.

To look at the Navmasha Chart and like division charts where we do not miss

any sign;

it is for all the charts avoiding Hora and Trinshash. Draw Two charts side

by side, keeping the planets in the same house but exchange the signs with

division Charts. (this is for north Indian charts) .

Look at the aspects in the Natal Chart with exchanged sign and their

strength as per these signs, look in natal that does it aspect his own signs

in the Division Chart. In the Divsion Chart does they attain the house to

which they lord in Natal Chart, or are in fall or adverse to those signs.

You will find the results a planet will deficit in various vargas with

relation to Natal Chart.And this will keep the natal aspect in tact.

 

Looking at Indra Gandhi Chart her Gaun Pada or UL falls in 10th house in

aries. In her D-3 Saturan and Mercury Occupy ascendent . Her 10th house in

D-3 is occupied by Mars and is disposited by Rahu, Mars is Bhatru Karka in 7

karka scheme, so she was her own brother and sister.In her Karkaamsha chart

Mars is in the 8th house is a lord of sign of obstruction from Karakaamsha

in 8th does not give any other representration to the self. Mars is

Vargoatam too.

Thus it certainily shows that she was the only born child of her

parents.

But D-9 giveanother picture, D-9 shows her the result of 2nd concepion and

even one abortion to her mother after that . We have no body to confirm

this.

 

So the chart of Anna sons in concerned, it also follow the same rules.

The Gauna Pada of Anna son is in capricorn the sign is aspected by Venus and

Saturan from the capricorn,

Bhatru Karka Mercury is in 8th in Natal with full aspect from Moon , a

badhka for Scorpio ascendent. In karka amsha chart it is in exchange with

Mars in the 5th which is in 7th to the Sagitarius the Badhka place for the

Karka amsha, the planets in 6th 8th or 12th to Karkaamsha casuses

deficiency/trouble in that Chara karka area to the person.

Indira Gandhi has Sun and Mars in 8th both representing Dara Karka and

Bhatru Karka.

Anna Son has Venus and Sun in the 6th 8th house both are Chara karka for

Amitya (representing 2nd house or family life) and Gunan Karka representing

6th house , cousion brothers and mother's relatives.

In the Dreshkana Chart venus is in ascendent , saturan aspect to this

ascendent.

The 3rd lord representing gauna pada is mercury in 8th to dreshkana

sacendent with rahu and Sun. Thus representing deficient in siblings.

I have one more chart , it is of my cousion brother, he is also the only son

of his parents,

Date of birth is 31stOctober 1967, Time 7.05AM IST

Place of Birth Amritsar 74e53, 31n 53

Gauna Pada is in Gemini in 9th house , it has aspect of Mars Saturan and

Moon (rashi aspect),

Rashi aspect of dual signs also emerge with each other, it clearly indicate

problmes to the softest planet Moon and passing collectly to the Gauna Pada.

Bhatru Karka Saturan is in 12th in Karka amsha chart, he himself is

dispositing Sun a badhka of Natal Chart.

Mars dispositing Saturan is in 8th , fininshing any thing Atmakarka can

derive from the Bhatru Karka.

Mars in 8th is Gan Karka showing 6th house matters dealing with cousins, the

person is my maternal cousion brother and has has no terms with paternal or

maternal relationships.

The Navmasha Chart makes the things more clear, i leave it on the readers to

judge and to assess.

 

With Best wishes,

Inder Jit sahni

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Inder Jit,

It seems you are /we are/ on the right track- let me apply the rule you feel

workable- I myself have an elder brother- UL has Ju in Lagna,

afflicted by Saturn- and I almost lost him. In D3, Lagna is occupied hy

exalted Ju and Moon in own sign /Cancer Lagna/- however, threat to his life

is confirmed here again: Sa from 11th H- badhaka stana -/elder brother/-

afflicts Ju and Moon in first, by textile aspect. However, Ju and Moon being

stronger than obstruction will endure /if lagna rrepresents myself , as I

was though- it was me indeed who 'saved' him, after he 'gave up', and that

was stronger that Sa depressed giving up.

Hope this ads to the picture.

Anna

-

<isawhney

<hanskpvedic>

Cc: <gjlist>

Sunday, December 14, 2003 8:30 AM

[GJ] Re: [hanskpvedic] Subject -Brotthers Sisters

 

 

> <I'm sending my son's data for your /welcome!/ research

> Definitively the only child,

> July 11, 1976, at 5:10

> Belgrade, Serbia,

> /Labour difficult- blue asphyxia on birth, didn't cry/breath at birth-

> reanimated /recorded 3 min. after birth/>

> Dear List ,

> Indira Gandhi was born on 19.11.1917 at 23.03Hrs at Allahabad,

>

> So for i always used Navmasha Chart for predicting siblings etc. But going

> Through Jamini Sutra's it occure to me that by application of Gaun Pada

the

> Muni has reffered to the idividual identification in the world as is

> revealed through his wife , brothers sisters and children. He has used

> Arudha lagna to define ones projection due to his own step in the world

and

> Gauna Pada for defining individual through ones siblings wife and

children.

>

> Jamini has defined Saturan Venus and Mercury in ascendent as obstructing

> birth, he has further hinted at the loss of the mother with pregency when

> Venus goes to the 8th house from the concerned pregnency. Odd signs give

> many births and even less births.

> This many and few will be applicable as per the nation and community.

>

> Some author use the ilustration for Gaun Pada as for D-7 and D-3. I agree

to

> its application to a greater extent to D-7 andD-3. But then too

considering

> the Gauna pada linkning it in D-3 as well as in d-7.

>

> For me application of KP cusp chart is like looking at the molecule of a

> compound made up of 12 different elements and the cusp points relating to

> the particular individual elobrating about each element.

> In application of the Divisional Chart , every body use Vargotam, planet

in

> his own varga , rashi aspects etc.

> The Divisional Chartrs are used and applied as one applies the same

> qualities to the molecule of a matter, looking into division as a whole

and

> applying same aspects etc as are applied in the Rashi Chart. Where as

> division chart act like an element of a compound made of different

elements

> differentiating different

> patterns of the elements of which an individual is made of.Thus a division

> chart can never reflect as a rashi chart can reflect, but combining the

two

> will

> give specfic picture of the native.

> To emerge the two , I give one method to the fellow astrologers to see the

> strength of a planet and his aspect.

> To look at the Navmasha Chart and like division charts where we do not

miss

> any sign;

> it is for all the charts avoiding Hora and Trinshash. Draw Two charts side

> by side, keeping the planets in the same house but exchange the signs with

> division Charts. (this is for north Indian charts) .

> Look at the aspects in the Natal Chart with exchanged sign and their

> strength as per these signs, look in natal that does it aspect his own

signs

> in the Division Chart. In the Divsion Chart does they attain the house to

> which they lord in Natal Chart, or are in fall or adverse to those signs.

> You will find the results a planet will deficit in various vargas with

> relation to Natal Chart.And this will keep the natal aspect in tact.

>

> Looking at Indra Gandhi Chart her Gaun Pada or UL falls in 10th house in

> aries. In her D-3 Saturan and Mercury Occupy ascendent . Her 10th house in

> D-3 is occupied by Mars and is disposited by Rahu, Mars is Bhatru Karka in

7

> karka scheme, so she was her own brother and sister.In her Karkaamsha

chart

> Mars is in the 8th house is a lord of sign of obstruction from Karakaamsha

> in 8th does not give any other representration to the self. Mars is

> Vargoatam too.

> Thus it certainily shows that she was the only born child of her

> parents.

> But D-9 giveanother picture, D-9 shows her the result of 2nd concepion and

> even one abortion to her mother after that . We have no body to confirm

> this.

>

> So the chart of Anna sons in concerned, it also follow the same rules.

> The Gauna Pada of Anna son is in capricorn the sign is aspected by Venus

and

> Saturan from the capricorn,

> Bhatru Karka Mercury is in 8th in Natal with full aspect from Moon , a

> badhka for Scorpio ascendent. In karka amsha chart it is in exchange with

> Mars in the 5th which is in 7th to the Sagitarius the Badhka place for the

> Karka amsha, the planets in 6th 8th or 12th to Karkaamsha casuses

> deficiency/trouble in that Chara karka area to the person.

> Indira Gandhi has Sun and Mars in 8th both representing Dara Karka and

> Bhatru Karka.

> Anna Son has Venus and Sun in the 6th 8th house both are Chara karka for

> Amitya (representing 2nd house or family life) and Gunan Karka

representing

> 6th house , cousion brothers and mother's relatives.

> In the Dreshkana Chart venus is in ascendent , saturan aspect to this

> ascendent.

> The 3rd lord representing gauna pada is mercury in 8th to dreshkana

> sacendent with rahu and Sun. Thus representing deficient in siblings.

> I have one more chart , it is of my cousion brother, he is also the only

son

> of his parents,

> Date of birth is 31stOctober 1967, Time 7.05AM IST

> Place of Birth Amritsar 74e53, 31n 53

> Gauna Pada is in Gemini in 9th house , it has aspect of Mars Saturan and

> Moon (rashi aspect),

> Rashi aspect of dual signs also emerge with each other, it clearly

indicate

> problmes to the softest planet Moon and passing collectly to the Gauna

Pada.

> Bhatru Karka Saturan is in 12th in Karka amsha chart, he himself is

> dispositing Sun a badhka of Natal Chart.

> Mars dispositing Saturan is in 8th , fininshing any thing Atmakarka can

> derive from the Bhatru Karka.

> Mars in 8th is Gan Karka showing 6th house matters dealing with cousins,

the

> person is my maternal cousion brother and has has no terms with paternal

or

> maternal relationships.

> The Navmasha Chart makes the things more clear, i leave it on the readers

to

> judge and to assess.

>

> With Best wishes,

> Inder Jit sahni

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Inder Jit,

<It seems you are /we are/ on the right track- let me apply the rule you

feel

workable- I myself have an elder brother- UL has Ju in Lagna,

afflicted by Saturn- and I almost lost him. In D3, Lagna is occupied hy

exalted Ju and Moon in own sign /Cancer Lagna/- however, threat to his life

is confirmed here again: Sa from 11th H- badhaka stana -/elder brother/-

afflicts Ju and Moon in first, by textile aspect. However, Ju and Moon being

stronger than obstruction will endure /if lagna rrepresents myself , as I

was though- it was me indeed who 'saved' him, after he 'gave up', and that

was stronger that Sa depressed giving up.

Hope this ads to the picture.>

 

Dear Anna,

Yes it do add to the picture,

in the natal the UL is in 9th house with jupiter in it, the jupiter is

dispositing Venus a badhka for cancer. This UL is aspected by Venus Mercury

and Saturan , all the three afflicting to UL causing no more birth. And even

harming to the already present. In D-3 look at the 9th house again the Venus

common badhka for natal and D-3 chart is aspecting 9th with rashi aspect,

the lord Jupiter is with moon, saturan in 3rd to 9th has barred for any

other birth through venus.

Now look at 2nd to UL , it contains Gulika and Mandi, it has sign aspect of

Mars. These three jointly project your married life.(I consider your

rectified time 4 15 56) You shall post for the list benefit.

 

Inder

[Guest guest]

Dear brother

 

Namaste

 

Boy, 31 March 2000, 10:27 AM, New Delhi. The only child of his parents.

 

LOve

 

RG

 

 

-

"Inder Jit Sahni" <isawhney

<gjlist>; <hanskpvedic>

Monday, December 15, 2003 7:54 PM

Re: [GJ] Re: [hanskpvedic] Subject -Brotthers Sisters

 

 

> Dear Inder Jit,

> <It seems you are /we are/ on the right track- let me apply the rule you

> feel

> workable- I myself have an elder brother- UL has Ju in Lagna,

> afflicted by Saturn- and I almost lost him. In D3, Lagna is occupied hy

> exalted Ju and Moon in own sign /Cancer Lagna/- however, threat to his

life

> is confirmed here again: Sa from 11th H- badhaka stana -/elder brother/-

> afflicts Ju and Moon in first, by textile aspect. However, Ju and Moon

being

> stronger than obstruction will endure /if lagna rrepresents myself , as I

> was though- it was me indeed who 'saved' him, after he 'gave up', and that

> was stronger that Sa depressed giving up.

> Hope this ads to the picture.>

>

> Dear Anna,

> Yes it do add to the picture,

> in the natal the UL is in 9th house with jupiter in it, the jupiter is

> dispositing Venus a badhka for cancer. This UL is aspected by Venus

Mercury

> and Saturan , all the three afflicting to UL causing no more birth. And

even

> harming to the already present. In D-3 look at the 9th house again the

Venus

> common badhka for natal and D-3 chart is aspecting 9th with rashi aspect,

> the lord Jupiter is with moon, saturan in 3rd to 9th has barred for any

> other birth through venus.

> Now look at 2nd to UL , it contains Gulika and Mandi, it has sign aspect

of

> Mars. These three jointly project your married life.(I consider your

> rectified time 4 15 56) You shall post for the list benefit.

>

> Inder

>

>

>

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>

>