Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 Dear Jay I was looking at this chart already and was suspecting a time of about 10.50 pm on first looking at the chart. If the time of 10.25pm given is correct, I would bring it slightly back to about 10.23pm. I am still tossing up whether is is Mars sub sub lord or Jupiter. I am tempted to bring it back a little more but 10.23 looks ok to me so far. There are so many reasons but one of many is the fact Mars is applying to a hard square to Neptune under 1 degree at birth. Using a time of 10.23pm tertiary progressed Ascendant is 2 minutes applying to this natal Neptune at her murder, which is thumped by Mars from the 8th house by hard square aspect. The last solar eclipse was at 15.30 Taurus and her TP Mars was at 14.50 Taurus. Her TP Sun was at 15.25 Aquarius applying by 5 minutes to the last eclipse point by square aspect. With my rectified time, Ascendant in the D8 of longevity gives an ascendant of 6.21 Aquarius which was exactly conjunct transit Uranus at 6.20 and conjunct transit Mars who was applying in retrograde motion very closely at 7.58. This of course is opposed by her natal Pluto at 5.09 Leo. Retrograde Mars applying to an opposition to natal Pluto is a classic example of a murderous aspect given she was murdered on a lunar return almost to the exact hour. This is quite amazing as at the lunar return earlier that morning transit Jupiter at 9.23 was conjunct the ascendant at 9.46 Leo. Her Tertiary progressed Pluto was at 9.38 Leo. Transit Mars was at about 8 degrees Aquarius so it it a murderous set up for violence. The transiting angles in the MC an IC were conjunct her natal Rahu/Ketu axis as well at the lunar return. Under her mahadasha I had her entering Ketu/Saturn/Ketu period on the 5/9/2003. For KP fans it is very accurate as Ketu/Sat sub in Leo starts at 9.20 Leo and her ascendant lord Jupiter was at 9.24 Leo when she was murdered. This transit Jupiter was opposed by transit Mars and totally conjunct TP Pluto. Makes some sense. Transiting Moon was in the star of Jupiter and sub of Moon which is her 8th lord. What is interesting is transit Venus was conjunct her natal lagna lord Jupiter. Both were exactly opposing the transiting Moon. Venus at birth is directly on the 7th house cusp in the star of Jupiter. This is is interesting given she was murdered. She was under Ketu/Sat/Ketu. Ketu in the sign of Mars gives its power to Mars and Saturn is a dire malefic and maraka in a serpent drekkana. Her nodes are in the shastiamsa of Dandayudha which indicates attack from a stick like weapon. All interesting. Finally her D9 chart has Saturn and Ketu in the maraka 2nd house in Scorpio aspected by hard square of Mars. All bad indications for Ketu/Saturn period. Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 Dear Andrew, I am currently trying to figure out the Shastyamsa (D-60) and suspect the time around 22:24:30 +-25sec to be 'more or less' correct with Scorpio Asc. 22:23 will give a Libra Asc. in D-60. Well let's dig into it some more ... Kind regards /Jay Weiss - "Andrew Lynn" <skinbags <gjlist> Wednesday, September 24, 2003 6:09 PM [GJ] Anna Lindh's chart > Dear Jay > > I was looking at this chart already and was suspecting a time of about 10.50 > pm on first looking at the chart. If the time of 10.25pm given is correct, I > would bring it slightly back to about 10.23pm. I am still tossing up whether > is is Mars sub sub lord or Jupiter. > > I am tempted to bring it back a little more but 10.23 looks ok to me so far. > There are so many reasons but one of many is the fact Mars is applying to a > hard square to Neptune under 1 degree at birth. > > Using a time of 10.23pm tertiary progressed Ascendant is 2 minutes applying > to this natal Neptune at her murder, which is thumped by Mars from the 8th > house by hard square aspect. > > The last solar eclipse was at 15.30 Taurus and her TP Mars was at 14.50 > Taurus. Her TP Sun was at 15.25 Aquarius applying by 5 minutes to the last > eclipse point by square aspect. > > With my rectified time, Ascendant in the D8 of longevity gives an ascendant > of 6.21 Aquarius which was exactly conjunct transit Uranus at 6.20 and > conjunct transit Mars who was applying in retrograde motion very closely at > 7.58. This of course is opposed by her natal Pluto at 5.09 Leo. > > Retrograde Mars applying to an opposition to natal Pluto is a classic > example of a murderous aspect given she was murdered on a lunar return > almost to the exact hour. > > This is quite amazing as at the lunar return earlier that morning transit > Jupiter at 9.23 was conjunct the ascendant at 9.46 Leo. Her Tertiary > progressed Pluto was at 9.38 Leo. Transit Mars was at about 8 degrees > Aquarius so it it a murderous set up for violence. > > The transiting angles in the MC an IC were conjunct her natal Rahu/Ketu axis > as well at the lunar return. Under her mahadasha I had her entering > Ketu/Saturn/Ketu period on the 5/9/2003. > > For KP fans it is very accurate as Ketu/Sat sub in Leo starts at 9.20 Leo > and her ascendant lord Jupiter was at 9.24 Leo when she was murdered. This > transit Jupiter was opposed by transit Mars and totally conjunct TP Pluto. > Makes some sense. > > Transiting Moon was in the star of Jupiter and sub of Moon which is her 8th > lord. What is interesting is transit Venus was conjunct her natal lagna lord > Jupiter. Both were exactly opposing the transiting Moon. Venus at birth is > directly on the 7th house cusp in the star of Jupiter. This is is > interesting given she was murdered. > > She was under Ketu/Sat/Ketu. Ketu in the sign of Mars gives its power to > Mars and Saturn is a dire malefic and maraka in a serpent drekkana. Her > nodes are in the shastiamsa of Dandayudha which indicates attack from a > stick like weapon. All interesting. > > Finally her D9 chart has Saturn and Ketu in the maraka 2nd house in Scorpio > aspected by hard square of Mars. All bad indications for Ketu/Saturn period. > > > Andrew > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 Dear Jay and Andrew and List, I've entered this information: 10:23 PM, July 19, 1957, Ludvika, Sweden, but not getting a chart that matches what you have written here, Andrew. Using Krishnamurti ayanamsa, I'm not getting an Asc with either Mars or Jupiter as the sub-sub lord. I'm getting 23 Sag 10, with Venus lorded Nakshatra, P Shad, Shani sub and Moon sub-sub. Can anyone confirm? Many thanks, Patrice ___________ Andrew wrote: I was looking at this chart already and was suspecting a time of about 10.50 pm on first looking at the chart. If the time of 10.25pm given is correct, I would bring it slightly back to about 10.23pm. I am still tossing up whether is is Mars sub sub lord or Jupiter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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