Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Dear Vivek: Planetary Gemology: (www.agt-gems.com/book/contents.html): Here is some good background information. Blessings, Janna Satyam Shivam Sundaram http://seven_directions.tripod.com > > > Regarding gemstones -- How exactly do they work? -- From what > >I > > > have heard,they make changes in one's aura. > > > Best wishes, > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. First look to the lagna or rising sign and then check the lord of the rising sign to see if it is in an auspicious condition in the rasi and navamsa charts. If this is the case then we wholeheartedly prescribe the gemstone ruled by the lagna's lord. Example: If one has Leo rising we look to the position of the Sun (Lord of Leo) in the chart. If the Sun is posited in an auspicious sign, e.g., sign of exaltation, own sign, trine, or at least a friendly sign, it will act in a beneficial way. If any of these are the case then we may recommended ruby or another "Sun jewel" as one's first gem choice. A list of the primary rising sign gems is given as follows: ------ RISING SIGN (Lagna) RULING PLANET GEMSTONE Aries Mars Red Coral Taurus Venus Diamond Gemini Mercury Emerald Cancer Moon Pearl Leo Sun Ruby Virgo Mercury Emerald Libra Venus Diamond Scorpio Mars Coral Sagittarius Jupiter Yellow Sapphire Capricorn Saturn Blue Sapphire Aquarius Saturn Blue Sapphire Pisces Jupiter Yellow Sapphire ------ 2. We next check the position of the planet ruling one's mahadasha or major planetary period. If this planet is well-placed in both the rasi as well as the navamsa charts then we prescribe that planet's gemstone(s) for use during the duration of the mahadasha period. Example: If one is in or entering a Jupiter mahadasha and if Jupiter is posited in an auspicious sign and/or house position, then we recommend yellow sapphire or another natural yellow gemstone. 3. Next we look to one's birth sign or Moon rasi , i.e., the sign in which the Moon is posited at the time of one's birth. In sidereal astrology the Moon's sign position is considered very important. Example: If one's Moon sign is Leo, a sign ruled by the Sun, then we must look to the sign and house position of the Sun in the horoscope. If the Sun is located in an auspicious position in both the rasi chart and the navamsa chart then we can recommend a ruby or other red Sun jewel as one's "birth stone." The list of these Vedic "birthstones" as shown in Chapter II is repeated again here for easy reference: ------ BIRTHSTONE RULING PLANET MOON SIGN Ruby Sun Leo Pearl Moon Cancer Coral Mars Aries/Scorpio Emerald Mercury Gemini/Virgo Yellow Sapphire Jupiter Sagittarius/Pisces Diamond Venus Taurus/Libra Blue Sapphire Saturn Capricorn/Aquarius Hessonite Rahu N/A Cat's eye Ketu N/A ------ 4. We then check the janma-naksatra or the constellation in which the Moon is posited at birth. Each of these 27 birth stars is ruled by one of the nine planets recognized in sidereal astrology. Example: If one's birth constellation is "punarvasu" (the 7th constellation), which is ruled by Jupiter, then we look to the position of Jupiter in the horoscope. If Jupiter is located in an auspicious sign and/or house position in both the rasi chart and the navamsa chart, then we can recommend yellow sapphire or another yellow "Jupiter" jewel. Following is a list of the 27 constellations, their ruling planet and corresponding gemstone: ------ BIRTH STAR RULED BY GEM ASWINI KETU CAT'S EYE BHARANI VENUS DIAMOND KARTIKAI SUN RUBY ROHINI MOON PEARL MRIGASIRA MARS CORAL ADRA RAHU HESSONITE PUNARVASU JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE PUSHYAM SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE ASLESHA MERCURY EMERALD MAGHAM KETU CAT'S EYE POORVA-PHALGUNI VENUS DIAMOND UTTAR-PHALGUNI SUN RUBY HASTAM MOON PEARL CHITRA MARS CORAL SWATI RAHU HESSONITE VISHAKAM JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE ANURADHA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE JUSTHA MERCURY EMERALD MOOLAM KETU CAT'S EYE POORVASHADA VENUS DIAMOND UTTARSHADA SUN RUBY SRAVANA MOON PEARL DHANISTHA MARS CORAL POORVABADRAPADA JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE UTTARBHADRAPADA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE REVATHI MERCURY EMERALD ------ 5. Next we examine all the nine planets in the rasi chart to see if any are exalted. Planets which are in their sign of maximum strength (exaltation) give positive and beneficial results, and their gemstone(s) may be used with advantage. 6. Another consideration is sign ownership . A planet which is located in it's own sign will give beneficial results, and that planet's gem can also be used to advantage. 7. A further consideration is any planet which is in it's sign of mulatrikona or trine. A Planet in mulatrikona gives beneficial results similar to an exalted planet, and their gem(s) may be used to advantage. 8. A planet which is located in a friendly sign will also give beneficial results, and it's gemstone may be used to advantage. 9. Our final consideration is preference based on the characteristic "planetary influence." Example: If a person wishes to use a Sun jewel like ruby or red spinel to increase their name and fame, then we will recommend that stone provided the person's Sun is not located in an unfriendly or inauspicious sign and/or house position in their sidereal horoscope. NOTE: It is our practiced and well-considered opinion that fine, natural gemstones do indeed "strengthen" or magnify the influence of their associated planets. Therefore, lucky planets = lucky gems. If a person intends to wear their lucky gemstone then they should only use gems which are related to planets that are considered to be "lucky" or posited in an auspicious rasi (zodiac sign) and/or bhava (house) in their sidereal birth chart. Gemstones do not alter or change the angle, position or condition in which planets are placed in one's horoscope. Methods for propitiating or reducing the harmful effects of evil or malevolently placed planets in one's birth chart include the chanting of planetary mantras, prescribed sacrifices and charity. These may be performed along with the use of associated planetary gemstones to help "magnify" the prayer. A person who is unwilling to perform these meritorious acts should not use gems for unlucky planets. IMPORTANT: Which ever planetary gemstone(s) you choose must be free of visible flaws in order to properly transmit beneficial astral energy. Even though there is precious little direct information on the use of planetary gemstones in the Vedic texts, we do have the following quote from the ancient Agni-puranam, (Chapter 246, Verses 7 & 8): "A gem free from all impurities and radiating its characteristic internal luster should be looked upon as an "escort" of good luck. A gem which is cracked, fissured, devoid of luster, or appearing rough or sandy, should not be used at all." With all these methods it is necessary to first cast a person's sidereal horoscope or janma-patrika (birth chart). This requires very expert calculations based on one's birth date, time and place. If one doesn't know their birth "time" it is still possible to cast the horoscope accurately enough to see the planetary "sign" positions (although this is much less precise in other areas). After casting the horoscope, look to see if any of the planets are in "auspicious" rasi positions. All of these "auspicious" sign positions give good results. According to B.V. Raman, India's leading astrologer, "A planet in it's own sign is rendered powerful to do good. A planet in it's sign of exaltation is rendered even more powerful to do good than in it's own sign. A planet in it's sign of mulatrikona is rendered powerful to do good similar to when in exaltation." Planets which are in enemy signs or which are debilitated usually have harmful or inauspicious influences. Professor Raman also states that planets which are debilitated give results opposite of when in strong sign positions. In other words, "bad results." (NOTE: There are certain astrological considerations which may "cancel" harmful planetary positions; but it is the opinion of most sidereal astrologers that "once a bad planet, always a bad planet.") An example may be taken from one of my own experiences with gem therapy. According to my Sidereal horoscope I have some exalted (strong) planets, some weak planets and some negative planets. Saturn in particular is already a krura-graha or cruel planet and it's position in my horoscope is even worse. Still, I was advised by some sidereal astrologers to use a blue sapphire, the gem for Saturn, in order to "pacify" Saturn's harmful influence on me. This brings up the question of how gems should be chosen and what their effects will be. One group opines that gems should be used to "pacify" harmful planets; another group believes that gems should be used to "strengthen" weak planetary influences. While yet another belief is in "strengthening" beneficial or auspicious planets. Let me relate my own experience and tell what my final conclusion is. Every Sidereal astrologer who has read my chart points out that Saturn in Cancer in the 12th house is quite malefic and is causing me many of the more long lasting problems in my life. I was advised to wear a blue sapphire to "pacify" Saturn. After a long search I found a 7 carat flawless, unburned, "Brahmin" colored blue sapphire from Burma. I bought the gem, immediately had it set into a special gold ring, and on Saturday, two hours and forty minutes before sunset, I installed the ring after reciting the appropriate mantras. Almost as soon as I started wearing this most auspicious blue sapphire I began having ill fortune. I started getting frequent headaches and my business started slowing down along with my energy level. Almost everything I did was beset with obstacles. Finally, after using the stone for almost 1 year, I took it off in frustration. Later I had the opportunity to show my birth chart to Pandit Vidyadhar Shukla (the Chief Brahmin Priest of Thailand) who confirmed that Saturn was indeed a "bad influence" for me. He further suggested that as the blue sapphire had made matters worse this was a good case against the theory that gems "pacify" harmful planets. He suggested that I should wear a ruby to "strengthen" the Sun in order to counteract Saturn's harmful influence. Since following this advise I have experienced much better effects on both my heath, business and over-all outlook. ------ *Since Rahu and Ketu are Aprakasha or "shadow planets," they reflect the qualities of the lord of the sign they occupy. Example: If Rahu is located in Virgo, a sign ruled by Mercury, you should look to the position of Mercury in the chart and predict similar results for Rahu. ------ We welcome any input from readers about their own experiences with gems and their astral powers. ------ Ancient Astrological Gemstones & Talismans index, Astral Gemstone Talismans main directory. ------ Click here agt_gems to contact AGT. ------ HRISIKESH LTD. 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Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 Hello Dear Janna, Hari Bol ! Hope you are in the best of your health and spirit. Thank you for sharing such a elabrated knowledge and your personal experience on wearing gems as per article below. It appears from your article that you are a leo ascendent and saturn is placed in 12h of Cancer in your native chart. I request you to please confirm if you did wear the said blue saphire gem in gold in middle finger of your left hand on an auspicous time? Thank you again for your kind co-operation. Best wishes...........................Amar Puri. >"Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn >gjlist >gjlist >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology >Fri, 12 Sep 2003 22:06:35 -0000 > >Dear Vivek: Planetary Gemology: >(www.agt-gems.com/book/contents.html): Here is some good >background information. > >Blessings, > >Janna >Satyam Shivam Sundaram > >http://seven_directions.tripod.com > > > > > > Regarding gemstones -- How exactly do they work? -- From >what > > >I > > > > have heard,they make changes in one's aura. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >1. First look to the lagna or rising sign and then check the lord of >the rising sign to see if it is in an auspicious condition in the rasi >and navamsa charts. If this is the case then we wholeheartedly >prescribe the gemstone ruled by the lagna's lord. Example: If >one has Leo rising we look to the position of the Sun (Lord of >Leo) in the chart. If the Sun is posited in an auspicious sign, e.g., >sign of exaltation, own sign, trine, or at least a friendly sign, it will >act in a beneficial way. If any of these are the case then we may >recommended ruby or another "Sun jewel" as one's first gem >choice. > >A list of the primary rising sign gems is given as follows: >------ > >RISING SIGN (Lagna) RULING PLANET GEMSTONE >Aries Mars Red Coral >Taurus Venus Diamond >Gemini Mercury Emerald >Cancer Moon Pearl >Leo Sun Ruby >Virgo Mercury Emerald >Libra Venus Diamond >Scorpio Mars Coral >Sagittarius Jupiter Yellow Sapphire >Capricorn Saturn Blue Sapphire >Aquarius Saturn Blue Sapphire >Pisces Jupiter Yellow Sapphire >------ > >2. We next check the position of the planet ruling one's >mahadasha or major planetary period. If this planet is >well-placed in both the rasi as well as the navamsa charts then >we prescribe that planet's gemstone(s) for use during the >duration of the mahadasha period. Example: If one is in or >entering a Jupiter mahadasha and if Jupiter is posited in an >auspicious sign and/or house position, then we recommend >yellow sapphire or another natural yellow gemstone. > >3. Next we look to one's birth sign or Moon rasi , i.e., the sign in >which the Moon is posited at the time of one's birth. In sidereal >astrology the Moon's sign position is considered very important. >Example: If one's Moon sign is Leo, a sign ruled by the Sun, then >we must look to the sign and house position of the Sun in the >horoscope. If the Sun is located in an auspicious position in both >the rasi chart and the navamsa chart then we can recommend a >ruby or other red Sun jewel as one's "birth stone." > >The list of these Vedic "birthstones" as shown in Chapter II is >repeated again here for easy reference: >------ > >BIRTHSTONE > >RULING PLANET > >MOON SIGN > >Ruby Sun Leo >Pearl Moon Cancer >Coral Mars Aries/Scorpio >Emerald Mercury Gemini/Virgo >Yellow Sapphire Jupiter Sagittarius/Pisces >Diamond Venus Taurus/Libra >Blue Sapphire Saturn Capricorn/Aquarius >Hessonite Rahu N/A >Cat's eye Ketu N/A >------ > >4. We then check the janma-naksatra or the constellation in >which the Moon is posited at birth. Each of these 27 birth stars is >ruled by one of the nine planets recognized in sidereal astrology. >Example: If one's birth constellation is "punarvasu" (the 7th >constellation), which is ruled by Jupiter, then we look to the >position of Jupiter in the horoscope. If Jupiter is located in an >auspicious sign and/or house position in both the rasi chart and >the navamsa chart, then we can recommend yellow sapphire or >another yellow "Jupiter" jewel. > >Following is a list of the 27 constellations, their ruling planet and >corresponding gemstone: >------ > >BIRTH STAR RULED BY GEM >ASWINI KETU CAT'S EYE >BHARANI VENUS DIAMOND >KARTIKAI SUN RUBY >ROHINI MOON PEARL >MRIGASIRA MARS CORAL >ADRA RAHU HESSONITE >PUNARVASU JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE >PUSHYAM SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE >ASLESHA MERCURY EMERALD >MAGHAM KETU CAT'S EYE >POORVA-PHALGUNI VENUS DIAMOND >UTTAR-PHALGUNI SUN RUBY >HASTAM MOON PEARL >CHITRA MARS CORAL >SWATI RAHU HESSONITE >VISHAKAM JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE >ANURADHA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE >JUSTHA MERCURY EMERALD >MOOLAM KETU CAT'S EYE >POORVASHADA VENUS DIAMOND >UTTARSHADA SUN RUBY >SRAVANA MOON PEARL >DHANISTHA MARS CORAL >POORVABADRAPADA JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE >UTTARBHADRAPADA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE >REVATHI MERCURY EMERALD >------ > >5. Next we examine all the nine planets in the rasi chart to see if >any are exalted. Planets which are in their sign of maximum >strength (exaltation) give positive and beneficial results, and their >gemstone(s) may be used with advantage. > >6. Another consideration is sign ownership . A planet which is >located in it's own sign will give beneficial results, and that >planet's gem can also be used to advantage. > >7. A further consideration is any planet which is in it's sign of >mulatrikona or trine. A Planet in mulatrikona gives beneficial >results similar to an exalted planet, and their gem(s) may be >used to advantage. > >8. A planet which is located in a friendly sign will also give >beneficial results, and it's gemstone may be used to advantage. > >9. Our final consideration is preference based on the >characteristic "planetary influence." Example: If a person wishes >to use a Sun jewel like ruby or red spinel to increase their name >and fame, then we will recommend that stone provided the >person's Sun is not located in an unfriendly or inauspicious sign >and/or house position in their sidereal horoscope. > >NOTE: It is our practiced and well-considered opinion that fine, >natural gemstones do indeed "strengthen" or magnify the >influence of their associated planets. Therefore, lucky planets = >lucky gems. If a person intends to wear their lucky gemstone >then they should only use gems which are related to planets that >are considered to be "lucky" or posited in an auspicious rasi >(zodiac sign) and/or bhava (house) in their sidereal birth chart. >Gemstones do not alter or change the angle, position or >condition in which planets are placed in one's horoscope. >Methods for propitiating or reducing the harmful effects of evil or >malevolently placed planets in one's birth chart include the >chanting of planetary mantras, prescribed sacrifices and charity. >These may be performed along with the use of associated >planetary gemstones to help "magnify" the prayer. A person who >is unwilling to perform these meritorious acts should not use >gems for unlucky planets. > >IMPORTANT: Which ever planetary gemstone(s) you choose >must be free of visible flaws in order to properly transmit >beneficial astral energy. Even though there is precious little >direct information on the use of planetary gemstones in the >Vedic texts, we do have the following quote from the ancient >Agni-puranam, (Chapter 246, Verses 7 & 8): >"A gem free from all impurities >and radiating its characteristic internal luster >should be looked upon as an "escort" of good luck. >A gem which is cracked, fissured, devoid of luster, >or appearing rough or sandy, >should not be used at all." > >With all these methods it is necessary to first cast a person's >sidereal horoscope or janma-patrika (birth chart). This requires >very expert calculations based on one's birth date, time and >place. If one doesn't know their birth "time" it is still possible to >cast the horoscope accurately enough to see the planetary "sign" >positions (although this is much less precise in other areas). >After casting the horoscope, look to see if any of the planets are >in "auspicious" rasi positions. All of these "auspicious" sign >positions give good results. According to B.V. Raman, India's >leading astrologer, "A planet in it's own sign is rendered >powerful to do good. A planet in it's sign of exaltation is rendered >even more powerful to do good than in it's own sign. A planet in >it's sign of mulatrikona is rendered powerful to do good similar >to when in exaltation." Planets which are in enemy signs or >which are debilitated usually have harmful or inauspicious >influences. Professor Raman also states that planets which are >debilitated give results opposite of when in strong sign >positions. In other words, "bad results." (NOTE: There are certain >astrological considerations which may "cancel" harmful >planetary positions; but it is the opinion of most sidereal >astrologers that "once a bad planet, always a bad planet.") > >An example may be taken from one of my own experiences with >gem therapy. According to my Sidereal horoscope I have some >exalted (strong) planets, some weak planets and some negative >planets. Saturn in particular is already a krura-graha or cruel >planet and it's position in my horoscope is even worse. Still, I >was advised by some sidereal astrologers to use a blue >sapphire, the gem for Saturn, in order to "pacify" Saturn's harmful >influence on me. This brings up the question of how gems >should be chosen and what their effects will be. One group >opines that gems should be used to "pacify" harmful planets; >another group believes that gems should be used to >"strengthen" weak planetary influences. While yet another belief >is in "strengthening" beneficial or auspicious planets. Let me >relate my own experience and tell what my final conclusion is. >Every Sidereal astrologer who has read my chart points out that >Saturn in Cancer in the 12th house is quite malefic and is >causing me many of the more long lasting problems in my life. I >was advised to wear a blue sapphire to "pacify" Saturn. After a >long search I found a 7 carat flawless, unburned, "Brahmin" >colored blue sapphire from Burma. I bought the gem, >immediately had it set into a special gold ring, and on Saturday, >two hours and forty minutes before sunset, I installed the ring >after reciting the appropriate mantras. > >Almost as soon as I started wearing this most auspicious blue >sapphire I began having ill fortune. I started getting frequent >headaches and my business started slowing down along with >my energy level. Almost everything I did was beset with >obstacles. Finally, after using the stone for almost 1 year, I took it >off in frustration. Later I had the opportunity to show my birth chart >to Pandit Vidyadhar Shukla (the Chief Brahmin Priest of >Thailand) who confirmed that Saturn was indeed a "bad >influence" for me. He further suggested that as the blue sapphire >had made matters worse this was a good case against the >theory that gems "pacify" harmful planets. He suggested that I >should wear a ruby to "strengthen" the Sun in order to counteract >Saturn's harmful influence. Since following this advise I have >experienced much better effects on both my heath, business and >over-all outlook. >------ > >*Since Rahu and Ketu are Aprakasha or "shadow planets," they >reflect the qualities of the lord of the sign they occupy. Example: If >Rahu is located in Virgo, a sign ruled by Mercury, you should look >to the position of Mercury in the chart and predict similar results >for Rahu. > > > >------ > >We welcome any input from readers about their own >experiences with gems and their astral powers. >------ >Ancient Astrological Gemstones & Talismans index, Astral >Gemstone Talismans main directory. >------ >Click here agt_gems to contact AGT. >------ > >HRISIKESH LTD. >Hrisikesh Plaza, C3 Building Joe Louis Theatre, >Lumpini Night Bazaar, 1875 Rama 4 Road, >Lumpini, Pathumwan, Bangkok, Kingdom of Thailand >Tel: (66-2) 2521230 / Fax: (66-2) 241-2535 >E-mail: E-mail > >_ > > > > Law meets Electronics; Veena Weds Sanjay. > > > > Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match !! > > > > Visit http://rediff.com/matchmaker?1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat >Sat > > > > : > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > >: > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_ > > Law meets Electronics; Veena Weds Sanjay. > > Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match !! > > Visit http://rediff.com/matchmaker?1 > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > _______________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 Oh dear, oh dear, Amar Puri, it is not my writing but a very learned astrologer. I got the information from his web site ((www.agt-gems.com/book/contents.html) because Vivek requested more information on planetary gemology. In fact, I am Cancer lagna (with Cancer Sun 1 degree combust Sani in H-1) and TR Sani is in H-12. Actually, I am wondering from other Cancer lagnas (and others on the list) about the effect of 12th house TR Saturn in Gemini for the next couple of years? But thank you for wishing me to be the best in health and spirit, since Rahu dasa ends in 21 days, followed by Jupiter dasa! I am hoping Jupiter dasa will counteract TR Sani in H-12. (And also, we are waiting to see if Hurricane Isabel will strike the US southeast coast in the next few days). RE: "I request you to please confirm if you did wear the said blue saphire gem > in gold in middle finger of your left hand on an auspicous time?" I am thinking that a yellow sapphire or yellow topaz would be better for me than a blue sapphire (if Brhaspataye brings any abundance my way)? > Satyam Shivam Sundaram Janna http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ gjlist, "fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...> wrote: > Hello Dear Janna, > > Hari Bol ! > > Hope you are in the best of your health and spirit. > > Thank you for sharing such a elabrated knowledge and your personal > experience on wearing gems as per article below. It appears from your > article that you are a leo ascendent and saturn is placed in 12h of Cancer > in your native chart. > > I request you to please confirm if you did wear the said blue saphire gem > in gold in middle finger of your left hand on an auspicous time? > > Thank you again for your kind co-operation. > > Best wishes...........................Amar Puri. > > > > > >"Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn> > >gjlist > >gjlist > >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > >Fri, 12 Sep 2003 22:06:35 -0000 > > > >Dear Vivek: Planetary Gemology: > >(www.agt-gems.com/book/contents.html): Here is some good > >background information. > > > >Blessings, > > > >Janna > >Satyam Shivam Sundaram > > > >http://seven_directions.tripod.com > > > > > > > > > Regarding gemstones -- How exactly do they work? -- From > >what > > > >I > > > > > have heard,they make changes in one's aura. > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >1. First look to the lagna or rising sign and then check the lord of > >the rising sign to see if it is in an auspicious condition in the rasi > >and navamsa charts. If this is the case then we wholeheartedly > >prescribe the gemstone ruled by the lagna's lord. Example: If > >one has Leo rising we look to the position of the Sun (Lord of > >Leo) in the chart. If the Sun is posited in an auspicious sign, e.g., > >sign of exaltation, own sign, trine, or at least a friendly sign, it will > >act in a beneficial way. If any of these are the case then we may > >recommended ruby or another "Sun jewel" as one's first gem > >choice. > > > >A list of the primary rising sign gems is given as follows: > >------ > > > >RISING SIGN (Lagna) RULING PLANET GEMSTONE > >Aries Mars Red Coral > >Taurus Venus Diamond > >Gemini Mercury Emerald > >Cancer Moon Pearl > >Leo Sun Ruby > >Virgo Mercury Emerald > >Libra Venus Diamond > >Scorpio Mars Coral > >Sagittarius Jupiter Yellow Sapphire > >Capricorn Saturn Blue Sapphire > >Aquarius Saturn Blue Sapphire > >Pisces Jupiter Yellow Sapphire > >------ > > > >2. We next check the position of the planet ruling one's > >mahadasha or major planetary period. If this planet is > >well-placed in both the rasi as well as the navamsa charts then > >we prescribe that planet's gemstone(s) for use during the > >duration of the mahadasha period. Example: If one is in or > >entering a Jupiter mahadasha and if Jupiter is posited in an > >auspicious sign and/or house position, then we recommend > >yellow sapphire or another natural yellow gemstone. > > > >3. Next we look to one's birth sign or Moon rasi , i.e., the sign in > >which the Moon is posited at the time of one's birth. In sidereal > >astrology the Moon's sign position is considered very important. > >Example: If one's Moon sign is Leo, a sign ruled by the Sun, then > >we must look to the sign and house position of the Sun in the > >horoscope. If the Sun is located in an auspicious position in both > >the rasi chart and the navamsa chart then we can recommend a > >ruby or other red Sun jewel as one's "birth stone." > > > >The list of these Vedic "birthstones" as shown in Chapter II is > >repeated again here for easy reference: > >------ > > > >BIRTHSTONE > > > >RULING PLANET > > > >MOON SIGN > > > >Ruby Sun Leo > >Pearl Moon Cancer > >Coral Mars Aries/Scorpio > >Emerald Mercury Gemini/Virgo > >Yellow Sapphire Jupiter Sagittarius/Pisces > >Diamond Venus Taurus/Libra > >Blue Sapphire Saturn Capricorn/Aquarius > >Hessonite Rahu N/A > >Cat's eye Ketu N/A > >------ > > > >4. We then check the janma-naksatra or the constellation in > >which the Moon is posited at birth. Each of these 27 birth stars is > >ruled by one of the nine planets recognized in sidereal astrology. > >Example: If one's birth constellation is "punarvasu" (the 7th > >constellation), which is ruled by Jupiter, then we look to the > >position of Jupiter in the horoscope. If Jupiter is located in an > >auspicious sign and/or house position in both the rasi chart and > >the navamsa chart, then we can recommend yellow sapphire or > >another yellow "Jupiter" jewel. > > > >Following is a list of the 27 constellations, their ruling planet and > >corresponding gemstone: > >------ > > > >BIRTH STAR RULED BY GEM > >ASWINI KETU CAT'S EYE > >BHARANI VENUS DIAMOND > >KARTIKAI SUN RUBY > >ROHINI MOON PEARL > >MRIGASIRA MARS CORAL > >ADRA RAHU HESSONITE > >PUNARVASU JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > >PUSHYAM SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > >ASLESHA MERCURY EMERALD > >MAGHAM KETU CAT'S EYE > >POORVA-PHALGUNI VENUS DIAMOND > >UTTAR-PHALGUNI SUN RUBY > >HASTAM MOON PEARL > >CHITRA MARS CORAL > >SWATI RAHU HESSONITE > >VISHAKAM JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > >ANURADHA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > >JUSTHA MERCURY EMERALD > >MOOLAM KETU CAT'S EYE > >POORVASHADA VENUS DIAMOND > >UTTARSHADA SUN RUBY > >SRAVANA MOON PEARL > >DHANISTHA MARS CORAL > >POORVABADRAPADA JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > >UTTARBHADRAPADA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > >REVATHI MERCURY EMERALD > >------ > > > >5. Next we examine all the nine planets in the rasi chart to see if > >any are exalted. Planets which are in their sign of maximum > >strength (exaltation) give positive and beneficial results, and their > >gemstone(s) may be used with advantage. > > > >6. Another consideration is sign ownership . A planet which is > >located in it's own sign will give beneficial results, and that > >planet's gem can also be used to advantage. > > > >7. A further consideration is any planet which is in it's sign of > >mulatrikona or trine. A Planet in mulatrikona gives beneficial > >results similar to an exalted planet, and their gem(s) may be > >used to advantage. > > > >8. A planet which is located in a friendly sign will also give > >beneficial results, and it's gemstone may be used to advantage. > > > >9. Our final consideration is preference based on the > >characteristic "planetary influence." Example: If a person wishes > >to use a Sun jewel like ruby or red spinel to increase their name > >and fame, then we will recommend that stone provided the > >person's Sun is not located in an unfriendly or inauspicious sign > >and/or house position in their sidereal horoscope. > > > >NOTE: It is our practiced and well-considered opinion that fine, > >natural gemstones do indeed "strengthen" or magnify the > >influence of their associated planets. Therefore, lucky planets = > >lucky gems. If a person intends to wear their lucky gemstone > >then they should only use gems which are related to planets that > >are considered to be "lucky" or posited in an auspicious rasi > >(zodiac sign) and/or bhava (house) in their sidereal birth chart. > >Gemstones do not alter or change the angle, position or > >condition in which planets are placed in one's horoscope. > >Methods for propitiating or reducing the harmful effects of evil or > >malevolently placed planets in one's birth chart include the > >chanting of planetary mantras, prescribed sacrifices and charity. > >These may be performed along with the use of associated > >planetary gemstones to help "magnify" the prayer. A person who > >is unwilling to perform these meritorious acts should not use > >gems for unlucky planets. > > > >IMPORTANT: Which ever planetary gemstone(s) you choose > >must be free of visible flaws in order to properly transmit > >beneficial astral energy. Even though there is precious little > >direct information on the use of planetary gemstones in the > >Vedic texts, we do have the following quote from the ancient > >Agni-puranam, (Chapter 246, Verses 7 & 8): > >"A gem free from all impurities > >and radiating its characteristic internal luster > >should be looked upon as an "escort" of good luck. > >A gem which is cracked, fissured, devoid of luster, > >or appearing rough or sandy, > >should not be used at all." > > > >With all these methods it is necessary to first cast a person's > >sidereal horoscope or janma-patrika (birth chart). This requires > >very expert calculations based on one's birth date, time and > >place. If one doesn't know their birth "time" it is still possible to > >cast the horoscope accurately enough to see the planetary "sign" > >positions (although this is much less precise in other areas). > >After casting the horoscope, look to see if any of the planets are > >in "auspicious" rasi positions. All of these "auspicious" sign > >positions give good results. According to B.V. Raman, India's > >leading astrologer, "A planet in it's own sign is rendered > >powerful to do good. A planet in it's sign of exaltation is rendered > >even more powerful to do good than in it's own sign. A planet in > >it's sign of mulatrikona is rendered powerful to do good similar > >to when in exaltation." Planets which are in enemy signs or > >which are debilitated usually have harmful or inauspicious > >influences. Professor Raman also states that planets which are > >debilitated give results opposite of when in strong sign > >positions. In other words, "bad results." (NOTE: There are certain > >astrological considerations which may "cancel" harmful > >planetary positions; but it is the opinion of most sidereal > >astrologers that "once a bad planet, always a bad planet.") > > > >An example may be taken from one of my own experiences with > >gem therapy. According to my Sidereal horoscope I have some > >exalted (strong) planets, some weak planets and some negative > >planets. Saturn in particular is already a krura-graha or cruel > >planet and it's position in my horoscope is even worse. Still, I > >was advised by some sidereal astrologers to use a blue > >sapphire, the gem for Saturn, in order to "pacify" Saturn's harmful > >influence on me. This brings up the question of how gems > >should be chosen and what their effects will be. One group > >opines that gems should be used to "pacify" harmful planets; > >another group believes that gems should be used to > >"strengthen" weak planetary influences. While yet another belief > >is in "strengthening" beneficial or auspicious planets. Let me > >relate my own experience and tell what my final conclusion is. > >Every Sidereal astrologer who has read my chart points out that > >Saturn in Cancer in the 12th house is quite malefic and is > >causing me many of the more long lasting problems in my life. I > >was advised to wear a blue sapphire to "pacify" Saturn. After a > >long search I found a 7 carat flawless, unburned, "Brahmin" > >colored blue sapphire from Burma. I bought the gem, > >immediately had it set into a special gold ring, and on Saturday, > >two hours and forty minutes before sunset, I installed the ring > >after reciting the appropriate mantras. > > > >Almost as soon as I started wearing this most auspicious blue > >sapphire I began having ill fortune. I started getting frequent > >headaches and my business started slowing down along with > >my energy level. Almost everything I did was beset with > >obstacles. Finally, after using the stone for almost 1 year, I took it > >off in frustration. Later I had the opportunity to show my birth chart > >to Pandit Vidyadhar Shukla (the Chief Brahmin Priest of > >Thailand) who confirmed that Saturn was indeed a "bad > >influence" for me. He further suggested that as the blue sapphire > >had made matters worse this was a good case against the > >theory that gems "pacify" harmful planets. He suggested that I > >should wear a ruby to "strengthen" the Sun in order to counteract > >Saturn's harmful influence. Since following this advise I have > >experienced much better effects on both my heath, business and > >over-all outlook. > >------ > > > >*Since Rahu and Ketu are Aprakasha or "shadow planets," they > >reflect the qualities of the lord of the sign they occupy. 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Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 Dear Janna, Thank you for the clarification. You are truly engaged in spiritual activities. Materially, you may experience difficulty. However, you are able and well versed to transend in to spiritual activities. You are like a lotus flower never touched by water, thus, never let material nature effects your spiritual growth. That is why lord saturn is transitting in your natal 12h of detechment as well as guru in the 2nd. house of your natal chart indicating service to the guru and helping to the needy people. My little suggestion to you is that please do not wear any yellow or blue saphire at all. You must propitiate the guru and shani (including Ra/Ke.) which ever way you are able to do. May Guru enlighten your mind and remove all the obstacles on your way. Hari Bol. Best wishes.............................Amar Puri. >"Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn >gjlist >gjlist >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology >Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:50:45 -0000 > >Oh dear, oh dear, Amar Puri, it is not my writing but a very >learned astrologer. I got the information from his web site >((www.agt-gems.com/book/contents.html) because Vivek >requested more information on planetary gemology. > >In fact, I am Cancer lagna (with Cancer Sun 1 degree combust >Sani in H-1) and TR Sani is in H-12. Actually, I am wondering >from other Cancer lagnas (and others on the list) about the effect >of 12th house TR Saturn in Gemini for the next couple of years? > >But thank you for wishing me to be the best in health and spirit, >since Rahu dasa ends in 21 days, followed by Jupiter dasa! I am >hoping Jupiter dasa will counteract TR Sani in H-12. (And also, >we are waiting to see if Hurricane Isabel will strike the US >southeast coast in the next few days). > >RE: "I request you to please confirm if you did wear the said >blue saphire gem > > in gold in middle finger of your left hand on an auspicous >time?" > >I am thinking that a yellow sapphire or yellow topaz would be >better for me than a blue sapphire (if Brhaspataye brings any >abundance my way)? > > > >Satyam Shivam Sundaram > >Janna > >http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ > > >gjlist, "fas fas" ><foreignersassistance@h...> wrote: > > Hello Dear Janna, > > > > Hari Bol ! > > > > Hope you are in the best of your health and spirit. > > > > Thank you for sharing such a elabrated knowledge and your >personal > > experience on wearing gems as per article below. It appears >from your > > article that you are a leo ascendent and saturn is placed in 12h >of Cancer > > in your native chart. > > > > I request you to please confirm if you did wear the said blue >saphire gem > > in gold in middle finger of your left hand on an auspicous >time? > > > > Thank you again for your kind co-operation. > > > > Best wishes...........................Amar Puri. > > > > > > > > > > >"Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn> > > >gjlist > > >gjlist > > >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > > >Fri, 12 Sep 2003 22:06:35 -0000 > > > > > >Dear Vivek: Planetary Gemology: > > >(www.agt-gems.com/book/contents.html): Here is some >good > > >background information. > > > > > >Blessings, > > > > > >Janna > > >Satyam Shivam Sundaram > > > > > >http://seven_directions.tripod.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding gemstones -- How exactly do they work? -- >From > > >what > > > > >I > > > > > > have heard,they make changes in one's aura. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >1. First look to the lagna or rising sign and then check the lord >of > > >the rising sign to see if it is in an auspicious condition in the >rasi > > >and navamsa charts. If this is the case then we >wholeheartedly > > >prescribe the gemstone ruled by the lagna's lord. Example: If > > >one has Leo rising we look to the position of the Sun (Lord of > > >Leo) in the chart. If the Sun is posited in an auspicious sign, >e.g., > > >sign of exaltation, own sign, trine, or at least a friendly sign, it >will > > >act in a beneficial way. If any of these are the case then we >may > > >recommended ruby or another "Sun jewel" as one's first gem > > >choice. > > > > > >A list of the primary rising sign gems is given as follows: > > > >------ > > > > > >RISING SIGN (Lagna) RULING PLANET GEMSTONE > > >Aries Mars Red Coral > > >Taurus Venus Diamond > > >Gemini Mercury Emerald > > >Cancer Moon Pearl > > >Leo Sun Ruby > > >Virgo Mercury Emerald > > >Libra Venus Diamond > > >Scorpio Mars Coral > > >Sagittarius Jupiter Yellow Sapphire > > >Capricorn Saturn Blue Sapphire > > >Aquarius Saturn Blue Sapphire > > >Pisces Jupiter Yellow Sapphire > > > >------ > > > > > >2. We next check the position of the planet ruling one's > > >mahadasha or major planetary period. If this planet is > > >well-placed in both the rasi as well as the navamsa charts >then > > >we prescribe that planet's gemstone(s) for use during the > > >duration of the mahadasha period. Example: If one is in or > > >entering a Jupiter mahadasha and if Jupiter is posited in an > > >auspicious sign and/or house position, then we recommend > > >yellow sapphire or another natural yellow gemstone. > > > > > >3. Next we look to one's birth sign or Moon rasi , i.e., the sign >in > > >which the Moon is posited at the time of one's birth. In >sidereal > > >astrology the Moon's sign position is considered very >important. > > >Example: If one's Moon sign is Leo, a sign ruled by the Sun, >then > > >we must look to the sign and house position of the Sun in the > > >horoscope. If the Sun is located in an auspicious position in >both > > >the rasi chart and the navamsa chart then we can >recommend a > > >ruby or other red Sun jewel as one's "birth stone." > > > > > >The list of these Vedic "birthstones" as shown in Chapter II is > > >repeated again here for easy reference: > > > >------ > > > > > >BIRTHSTONE > > > > > >RULING PLANET > > > > > >MOON SIGN > > > > > >Ruby Sun Leo > > >Pearl Moon Cancer > > >Coral Mars Aries/Scorpio > > >Emerald Mercury Gemini/Virgo > > >Yellow Sapphire Jupiter Sagittarius/Pisces > > >Diamond Venus Taurus/Libra > > >Blue Sapphire Saturn Capricorn/Aquarius > > >Hessonite Rahu N/A > > >Cat's eye Ketu N/A > > > >------ > > > > > >4. We then check the janma-naksatra or the constellation in > > >which the Moon is posited at birth. Each of these 27 birth >stars is > > >ruled by one of the nine planets recognized in sidereal >astrology. > > >Example: If one's birth constellation is "punarvasu" (the 7th > > >constellation), which is ruled by Jupiter, then we look to the > > >position of Jupiter in the horoscope. If Jupiter is located in an > > >auspicious sign and/or house position in both the rasi chart >and > > >the navamsa chart, then we can recommend yellow sapphire >or > > >another yellow "Jupiter" jewel. > > > > > >Following is a list of the 27 constellations, their ruling planet >and > > >corresponding gemstone: > > > >------ > > > > > >BIRTH STAR RULED BY GEM > > >ASWINI KETU CAT'S EYE > > >BHARANI VENUS DIAMOND > > >KARTIKAI SUN RUBY > > >ROHINI MOON PEARL > > >MRIGASIRA MARS CORAL > > >ADRA RAHU HESSONITE > > >PUNARVASU JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > >PUSHYAM SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > >ASLESHA MERCURY EMERALD > > >MAGHAM KETU CAT'S EYE > > >POORVA-PHALGUNI VENUS DIAMOND > > >UTTAR-PHALGUNI SUN RUBY > > >HASTAM MOON PEARL > > >CHITRA MARS CORAL > > >SWATI RAHU HESSONITE > > >VISHAKAM JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > >ANURADHA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > >JUSTHA MERCURY EMERALD > > >MOOLAM KETU CAT'S EYE > > >POORVASHADA VENUS DIAMOND > > >UTTARSHADA SUN RUBY > > >SRAVANA MOON PEARL > > >DHANISTHA MARS CORAL > > >POORVABADRAPADA JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > >UTTARBHADRAPADA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > >REVATHI MERCURY EMERALD > > > >------ > > > > > >5. Next we examine all the nine planets in the rasi chart to >see if > > >any are exalted. Planets which are in their sign of maximum > > >strength (exaltation) give positive and beneficial results, and >their > > >gemstone(s) may be used with advantage. > > > > > >6. Another consideration is sign ownership . A planet which is > > >located in it's own sign will give beneficial results, and that > > >planet's gem can also be used to advantage. > > > > > >7. A further consideration is any planet which is in it's sign of > > >mulatrikona or trine. A Planet in mulatrikona gives beneficial > > >results similar to an exalted planet, and their gem(s) may be > > >used to advantage. > > > > > >8. A planet which is located in a friendly sign will also give > > >beneficial results, and it's gemstone may be used to >advantage. > > > > > >9. Our final consideration is preference based on the > > >characteristic "planetary influence." Example: If a person >wishes > > >to use a Sun jewel like ruby or red spinel to increase their >name > > >and fame, then we will recommend that stone provided the > > >person's Sun is not located in an unfriendly or inauspicious >sign > > >and/or house position in their sidereal horoscope. > > > > > >NOTE: It is our practiced and well-considered opinion that >fine, > > >natural gemstones do indeed "strengthen" or magnify the > > >influence of their associated planets. Therefore, lucky planets >= > > >lucky gems. If a person intends to wear their lucky gemstone > > >then they should only use gems which are related to planets >that > > >are considered to be "lucky" or posited in an auspicious rasi > > >(zodiac sign) and/or bhava (house) in their sidereal birth >chart. > > >Gemstones do not alter or change the angle, position or > > >condition in which planets are placed in one's horoscope. > > >Methods for propitiating or reducing the harmful effects of evil >or > > >malevolently placed planets in one's birth chart include the > > >chanting of planetary mantras, prescribed sacrifices and >charity. > > >These may be performed along with the use of associated > > >planetary gemstones to help "magnify" the prayer. A person >who > > >is unwilling to perform these meritorious acts should not use > > >gems for unlucky planets. > > > > > >IMPORTANT: Which ever planetary gemstone(s) you choose > > >must be free of visible flaws in order to properly transmit > > >beneficial astral energy. Even though there is precious little > > >direct information on the use of planetary gemstones in the > > >Vedic texts, we do have the following quote from the ancient > > >Agni-puranam, (Chapter 246, Verses 7 & 8): > > >"A gem free from all impurities > > >and radiating its characteristic internal luster > > >should be looked upon as an "escort" of good luck. > > >A gem which is cracked, fissured, devoid of luster, > > >or appearing rough or sandy, > > >should not be used at all." > > > > > >With all these methods it is necessary to first cast a person's > > >sidereal horoscope or janma-patrika (birth chart). This >requires > > >very expert calculations based on one's birth date, time and > > >place. If one doesn't know their birth "time" it is still possible >to > > >cast the horoscope accurately enough to see the planetary >"sign" > > >positions (although this is much less precise in other areas). > > >After casting the horoscope, look to see if any of the planets >are > > >in "auspicious" rasi positions. All of these "auspicious" sign > > >positions give good results. According to B.V. Raman, India's > > >leading astrologer, "A planet in it's own sign is rendered > > >powerful to do good. A planet in it's sign of exaltation is >rendered > > >even more powerful to do good than in it's own sign. A planet >in > > >it's sign of mulatrikona is rendered powerful to do good >similar > > >to when in exaltation." Planets which are in enemy signs or > > >which are debilitated usually have harmful or inauspicious > > >influences. Professor Raman also states that planets which >are > > >debilitated give results opposite of when in strong sign > > >positions. In other words, "bad results." (NOTE: There are >certain > > >astrological considerations which may "cancel" harmful > > >planetary positions; but it is the opinion of most sidereal > > >astrologers that "once a bad planet, always a bad planet.") > > > > > >An example may be taken from one of my own experiences >with > > >gem therapy. According to my Sidereal horoscope I have >some > > >exalted (strong) planets, some weak planets and some >negative > > >planets. Saturn in particular is already a krura-graha or cruel > > >planet and it's position in my horoscope is even worse. Still, I > > >was advised by some sidereal astrologers to use a blue > > >sapphire, the gem for Saturn, in order to "pacify" Saturn's >harmful > > >influence on me. This brings up the question of how gems > > >should be chosen and what their effects will be. One group > > >opines that gems should be used to "pacify" harmful planets; > > >another group believes that gems should be used to > > >"strengthen" weak planetary influences. While yet another >belief > > >is in "strengthening" beneficial or auspicious planets. Let me > > >relate my own experience and tell what my final conclusion is. > > >Every Sidereal astrologer who has read my chart points out >that > > >Saturn in Cancer in the 12th house is quite malefic and is > > >causing me many of the more long lasting problems in my >life. I > > >was advised to wear a blue sapphire to "pacify" Saturn. After a > > >long search I found a 7 carat flawless, unburned, "Brahmin" > > >colored blue sapphire from Burma. I bought the gem, > > >immediately had it set into a special gold ring, and on >Saturday, > > >two hours and forty minutes before sunset, I installed the ring > > >after reciting the appropriate mantras. > > > > > >Almost as soon as I started wearing this most auspicious >blue > > >sapphire I began having ill fortune. I started getting frequent > > >headaches and my business started slowing down along >with > > >my energy level. Almost everything I did was beset with > > >obstacles. Finally, after using the stone for almost 1 year, I >took it > > >off in frustration. Later I had the opportunity to show my birth >chart > > >to Pandit Vidyadhar Shukla (the Chief Brahmin Priest of > > >Thailand) who confirmed that Saturn was indeed a "bad > > >influence" for me. He further suggested that as the blue >sapphire > > >had made matters worse this was a good case against the > > >theory that gems "pacify" harmful planets. He suggested that I > > >should wear a ruby to "strengthen" the Sun in order to >counteract > > >Saturn's harmful influence. Since following this advise I have > > >experienced much better effects on both my heath, business >and > > >over-all outlook. > > > >------ > > > > > >*Since Rahu and Ketu are Aprakasha or "shadow planets," >they > > >reflect the qualities of the lord of the sign they occupy. >Example: If > > >Rahu is located in Virgo, a sign ruled by Mercury, you should >look > > >to the position of Mercury in the chart and predict similar >results > > >for Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > >We welcome any input from readers about their own > > >experiences with gems and their astral powers. > > > >------ > > >Ancient Astrological Gemstones & Talismans index, Astral > > >Gemstone Talismans main directory. > > > >------ > > >Click here agt_gems@a... to contact AGT. > > > >------ > > > > > >HRISIKESH LTD. > > >Hrisikesh Plaza, C3 Building Joe Louis Theatre, > > >Lumpini Night Bazaar, 1875 Rama 4 Road, > > >Lumpini, Pathumwan, Bangkok, Kingdom of Thailand > > >Tel: (66-2) 2521230 / Fax: (66-2) 241-2535 > > >E-mail: E-mail > > > >_______________ >_ > > >_ > > > > > > Law meets Electronics; Veena Weds Sanjay. > > > > > > Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match !! > > > > > > Visit http://rediff.com/matchmaker?1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om >Tat > > >Sat > > > > > > : > > > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat >Sat > > > > >: > > > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ >_ > > >_ > > > > Law meets Electronics; Veena Weds Sanjay. > > > > Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match !! > > > > Visit http://rediff.com/matchmaker?1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > >: >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > _______________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 Dear Janna and Amar, I agree with you- no sapphire neither Blue nor yellow- let Ju MD do it it's own way! Regards, Anna - "fas fas" <foreignersassistance <gjlist> Saturday, September 13, 2003 3:33 PM Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > Dear Janna, > > Thank you for the clarification. You are truly engaged in spiritual > activities. Materially, you may experience difficulty. However, you are > able and well versed to transend in to spiritual activities. You are like > a lotus flower never touched by water, thus, never let material nature > effects your spiritual growth. That is why lord saturn is transitting in > your natal 12h of detechment as well as guru in the 2nd. house of your natal > chart indicating service to the guru and helping to the needy people. > > My little suggestion to you is that please do not wear any yellow or blue > saphire at all. You must propitiate the guru and shani (including Ra/Ke.) > which ever way you are able to do. > > May Guru enlighten your mind and remove all the obstacles on your way. > Hari Bol. > > Best wishes.............................Amar Puri. > > > > >"Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn > >gjlist > >gjlist > >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > >Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:50:45 -0000 > > > >Oh dear, oh dear, Amar Puri, it is not my writing but a very > >learned astrologer. I got the information from his web site > >((www.agt-gems.com/book/contents.html) because Vivek > >requested more information on planetary gemology. > > > >In fact, I am Cancer lagna (with Cancer Sun 1 degree combust > >Sani in H-1) and TR Sani is in H-12. Actually, I am wondering > >from other Cancer lagnas (and others on the list) about the effect > >of 12th house TR Saturn in Gemini for the next couple of years? > > > >But thank you for wishing me to be the best in health and spirit, > >since Rahu dasa ends in 21 days, followed by Jupiter dasa! I am > >hoping Jupiter dasa will counteract TR Sani in H-12. (And also, > >we are waiting to see if Hurricane Isabel will strike the US > >southeast coast in the next few days). > > > >RE: "I request you to please confirm if you did wear the said > >blue saphire gem > > > in gold in middle finger of your left hand on an auspicous > >time?" > > > >I am thinking that a yellow sapphire or yellow topaz would be > >better for me than a blue sapphire (if Brhaspataye brings any > >abundance my way)? > > > > > > >Satyam Shivam Sundaram > > > >Janna > > > >http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ > > > > > >gjlist, "fas fas" > ><foreignersassistance@h...> wrote: > > > Hello Dear Janna, > > > > > > Hari Bol ! > > > > > > Hope you are in the best of your health and spirit. > > > > > > Thank you for sharing such a elabrated knowledge and your > >personal > > > experience on wearing gems as per article below. It appears > >from your > > > article that you are a leo ascendent and saturn is placed in 12h > >of Cancer > > > in your native chart. > > > > > > I request you to please confirm if you did wear the said blue > >saphire gem > > > in gold in middle finger of your left hand on an auspicous > >time? > > > > > > Thank you again for your kind co-operation. > > > > > > Best wishes...........................Amar Puri. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn> > > > >gjlist > > > >gjlist > > > >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > > > >Fri, 12 Sep 2003 22:06:35 -0000 > > > > > > > >Dear Vivek: Planetary Gemology: > > > >(www.agt-gems.com/book/contents.html): Here is some > >good > > > >background information. > > > > > > > >Blessings, > > > > > > > >Janna > > > >Satyam Shivam Sundaram > > > > > > > >http://seven_directions.tripod.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding gemstones -- How exactly do they work? -- > >From > > > >what > > > > > >I > > > > > > > have heard,they make changes in one's aura. > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >1. First look to the lagna or rising sign and then check the lord > >of > > > >the rising sign to see if it is in an auspicious condition in the > >rasi > > > >and navamsa charts. If this is the case then we > >wholeheartedly > > > >prescribe the gemstone ruled by the lagna's lord. Example: If > > > >one has Leo rising we look to the position of the Sun (Lord of > > > >Leo) in the chart. If the Sun is posited in an auspicious sign, > >e.g., > > > >sign of exaltation, own sign, trine, or at least a friendly sign, it > >will > > > >act in a beneficial way. If any of these are the case then we > >may > > > >recommended ruby or another "Sun jewel" as one's first gem > > > >choice. > > > > > > > >A list of the primary rising sign gems is given as follows: > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > >RISING SIGN (Lagna) RULING PLANET GEMSTONE > > > >Aries Mars Red Coral > > > >Taurus Venus Diamond > > > >Gemini Mercury Emerald > > > >Cancer Moon Pearl > > > >Leo Sun Ruby > > > >Virgo Mercury Emerald > > > >Libra Venus Diamond > > > >Scorpio Mars Coral > > > >Sagittarius Jupiter Yellow Sapphire > > > >Capricorn Saturn Blue Sapphire > > > >Aquarius Saturn Blue Sapphire > > > >Pisces Jupiter Yellow Sapphire > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > >2. We next check the position of the planet ruling one's > > > >mahadasha or major planetary period. If this planet is > > > >well-placed in both the rasi as well as the navamsa charts > >then > > > >we prescribe that planet's gemstone(s) for use during the > > > >duration of the mahadasha period. Example: If one is in or > > > >entering a Jupiter mahadasha and if Jupiter is posited in an > > > >auspicious sign and/or house position, then we recommend > > > >yellow sapphire or another natural yellow gemstone. > > > > > > > >3. Next we look to one's birth sign or Moon rasi , i.e., the sign > >in > > > >which the Moon is posited at the time of one's birth. In > >sidereal > > > >astrology the Moon's sign position is considered very > >important. > > > >Example: If one's Moon sign is Leo, a sign ruled by the Sun, > >then > > > >we must look to the sign and house position of the Sun in the > > > >horoscope. If the Sun is located in an auspicious position in > >both > > > >the rasi chart and the navamsa chart then we can > >recommend a > > > >ruby or other red Sun jewel as one's "birth stone." > > > > > > > >The list of these Vedic "birthstones" as shown in Chapter II is > > > >repeated again here for easy reference: > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > >BIRTHSTONE > > > > > > > >RULING PLANET > > > > > > > >MOON SIGN > > > > > > > >Ruby Sun Leo > > > >Pearl Moon Cancer > > > >Coral Mars Aries/Scorpio > > > >Emerald Mercury Gemini/Virgo > > > >Yellow Sapphire Jupiter Sagittarius/Pisces > > > >Diamond Venus Taurus/Libra > > > >Blue Sapphire Saturn Capricorn/Aquarius > > > >Hessonite Rahu N/A > > > >Cat's eye Ketu N/A > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > >4. We then check the janma-naksatra or the constellation in > > > >which the Moon is posited at birth. Each of these 27 birth > >stars is > > > >ruled by one of the nine planets recognized in sidereal > >astrology. > > > >Example: If one's birth constellation is "punarvasu" (the 7th > > > >constellation), which is ruled by Jupiter, then we look to the > > > >position of Jupiter in the horoscope. If Jupiter is located in an > > > >auspicious sign and/or house position in both the rasi chart > >and > > > >the navamsa chart, then we can recommend yellow sapphire > >or > > > >another yellow "Jupiter" jewel. > > > > > > > >Following is a list of the 27 constellations, their ruling planet > >and > > > >corresponding gemstone: > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > >BIRTH STAR RULED BY GEM > > > >ASWINI KETU CAT'S EYE > > > >BHARANI VENUS DIAMOND > > > >KARTIKAI SUN RUBY > > > >ROHINI MOON PEARL > > > >MRIGASIRA MARS CORAL > > > >ADRA RAHU HESSONITE > > > >PUNARVASU JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > > >PUSHYAM SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > > >ASLESHA MERCURY EMERALD > > > >MAGHAM KETU CAT'S EYE > > > >POORVA-PHALGUNI VENUS DIAMOND > > > >UTTAR-PHALGUNI SUN RUBY > > > >HASTAM MOON PEARL > > > >CHITRA MARS CORAL > > > >SWATI RAHU HESSONITE > > > >VISHAKAM JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > > >ANURADHA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > > >JUSTHA MERCURY EMERALD > > > >MOOLAM KETU CAT'S EYE > > > >POORVASHADA VENUS DIAMOND > > > >UTTARSHADA SUN RUBY > > > >SRAVANA MOON PEARL > > > >DHANISTHA MARS CORAL > > > >POORVABADRAPADA JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > > >UTTARBHADRAPADA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > > >REVATHI MERCURY EMERALD > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > >5. Next we examine all the nine planets in the rasi chart to > >see if > > > >any are exalted. Planets which are in their sign of maximum > > > >strength (exaltation) give positive and beneficial results, and > >their > > > >gemstone(s) may be used with advantage. > > > > > > > >6. Another consideration is sign ownership . A planet which is > > > >located in it's own sign will give beneficial results, and that > > > >planet's gem can also be used to advantage. > > > > > > > >7. A further consideration is any planet which is in it's sign of > > > >mulatrikona or trine. A Planet in mulatrikona gives beneficial > > > >results similar to an exalted planet, and their gem(s) may be > > > >used to advantage. > > > > > > > >8. A planet which is located in a friendly sign will also give > > > >beneficial results, and it's gemstone may be used to > >advantage. > > > > > > > >9. Our final consideration is preference based on the > > > >characteristic "planetary influence." Example: If a person > >wishes > > > >to use a Sun jewel like ruby or red spinel to increase their > >name > > > >and fame, then we will recommend that stone provided the > > > >person's Sun is not located in an unfriendly or inauspicious > >sign > > > >and/or house position in their sidereal horoscope. > > > > > > > >NOTE: It is our practiced and well-considered opinion that > >fine, > > > >natural gemstones do indeed "strengthen" or magnify the > > > >influence of their associated planets. Therefore, lucky planets > >= > > > >lucky gems. If a person intends to wear their lucky gemstone > > > >then they should only use gems which are related to planets > >that > > > >are considered to be "lucky" or posited in an auspicious rasi > > > >(zodiac sign) and/or bhava (house) in their sidereal birth > >chart. > > > >Gemstones do not alter or change the angle, position or > > > >condition in which planets are placed in one's horoscope. > > > >Methods for propitiating or reducing the harmful effects of evil > >or > > > >malevolently placed planets in one's birth chart include the > > > >chanting of planetary mantras, prescribed sacrifices and > >charity. > > > >These may be performed along with the use of associated > > > >planetary gemstones to help "magnify" the prayer. A person > >who > > > >is unwilling to perform these meritorious acts should not use > > > >gems for unlucky planets. > > > > > > > >IMPORTANT: Which ever planetary gemstone(s) you choose > > > >must be free of visible flaws in order to properly transmit > > > >beneficial astral energy. Even though there is precious little > > > >direct information on the use of planetary gemstones in the > > > >Vedic texts, we do have the following quote from the ancient > > > >Agni-puranam, (Chapter 246, Verses 7 & 8): > > > >"A gem free from all impurities > > > >and radiating its characteristic internal luster > > > >should be looked upon as an "escort" of good luck. > > > >A gem which is cracked, fissured, devoid of luster, > > > >or appearing rough or sandy, > > > >should not be used at all." > > > > > > > >With all these methods it is necessary to first cast a person's > > > >sidereal horoscope or janma-patrika (birth chart). This > >requires > > > >very expert calculations based on one's birth date, time and > > > >place. If one doesn't know their birth "time" it is still possible > >to > > > >cast the horoscope accurately enough to see the planetary > >"sign" > > > >positions (although this is much less precise in other areas). > > > >After casting the horoscope, look to see if any of the planets > >are > > > >in "auspicious" rasi positions. All of these "auspicious" sign > > > >positions give good results. According to B.V. Raman, India's > > > >leading astrologer, "A planet in it's own sign is rendered > > > >powerful to do good. A planet in it's sign of exaltation is > >rendered > > > >even more powerful to do good than in it's own sign. A planet > >in > > > >it's sign of mulatrikona is rendered powerful to do good > >similar > > > >to when in exaltation." Planets which are in enemy signs or > > > >which are debilitated usually have harmful or inauspicious > > > >influences. Professor Raman also states that planets which > >are > > > >debilitated give results opposite of when in strong sign > > > >positions. In other words, "bad results." (NOTE: There are > >certain > > > >astrological considerations which may "cancel" harmful > > > >planetary positions; but it is the opinion of most sidereal > > > >astrologers that "once a bad planet, always a bad planet.") > > > > > > > >An example may be taken from one of my own experiences > >with > > > >gem therapy. According to my Sidereal horoscope I have > >some > > > >exalted (strong) planets, some weak planets and some > >negative > > > >planets. Saturn in particular is already a krura-graha or cruel > > > >planet and it's position in my horoscope is even worse. Still, I > > > >was advised by some sidereal astrologers to use a blue > > > >sapphire, the gem for Saturn, in order to "pacify" Saturn's > >harmful > > > >influence on me. This brings up the question of how gems > > > >should be chosen and what their effects will be. One group > > > >opines that gems should be used to "pacify" harmful planets; > > > >another group believes that gems should be used to > > > >"strengthen" weak planetary influences. While yet another > >belief > > > >is in "strengthening" beneficial or auspicious planets. Let me > > > >relate my own experience and tell what my final conclusion is. > > > >Every Sidereal astrologer who has read my chart points out > >that > > > >Saturn in Cancer in the 12th house is quite malefic and is > > > >causing me many of the more long lasting problems in my > >life. I > > > >was advised to wear a blue sapphire to "pacify" Saturn. After a > > > >long search I found a 7 carat flawless, unburned, "Brahmin" > > > >colored blue sapphire from Burma. I bought the gem, > > > >immediately had it set into a special gold ring, and on > >Saturday, > > > >two hours and forty minutes before sunset, I installed the ring > > > >after reciting the appropriate mantras. > > > > > > > >Almost as soon as I started wearing this most auspicious > >blue > > > >sapphire I began having ill fortune. I started getting frequent > > > >headaches and my business started slowing down along > >with > > > >my energy level. Almost everything I did was beset with > > > >obstacles. Finally, after using the stone for almost 1 year, I > >took it > > > >off in frustration. Later I had the opportunity to show my birth > >chart > > > >to Pandit Vidyadhar Shukla (the Chief Brahmin Priest of > > > >Thailand) who confirmed that Saturn was indeed a "bad > > > >influence" for me. He further suggested that as the blue > >sapphire > > > >had made matters worse this was a good case against the > > > >theory that gems "pacify" harmful planets. He suggested that I > > > >should wear a ruby to "strengthen" the Sun in order to > >counteract > > > >Saturn's harmful influence. Since following this advise I have > > > >experienced much better effects on both my heath, business > >and > > > >over-all outlook. > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > >*Since Rahu and Ketu are Aprakasha or "shadow planets," > >they > > > >reflect the qualities of the lord of the sign they occupy. > >Example: If > > > >Rahu is located in Virgo, a sign ruled by Mercury, you should > >look > > > >to the position of Mercury in the chart and predict similar > >results > > > >for Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > >We welcome any input from readers about their own > > > >experiences with gems and their astral powers. > > > > > >------ > > > >Ancient Astrological Gemstones & Talismans index, Astral > > > >Gemstone Talismans main directory. > > > > > >------ > > > >Click here agt_gems@a... to contact AGT. > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > >HRISIKESH LTD. > > > >Hrisikesh Plaza, C3 Building Joe Louis Theatre, > > > >Lumpini Night Bazaar, 1875 Rama 4 Road, > > > >Lumpini, Pathumwan, Bangkok, Kingdom of Thailand > > > >Tel: (66-2) 2521230 / Fax: (66-2) 241-2535 > > > >E-mail: E-mail > > > > > >_______________ > >_ > > > >_ > > > > > > > Law meets Electronics; Veena Weds Sanjay. > > > > > > > Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match !! > > > > > > > Visit http://rediff.com/matchmaker?1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om > >Tat > > > >Sat > > > > > > > : > > > > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > >Sat > > > > > >: > > > > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > >_ > > > >_ > > > > > Law meets Electronics; Veena Weds Sanjay. > > > > > Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match !! > > > > > Visit http://rediff.com/matchmaker?1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > >: > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > >: gjlist- > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > _______________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 Dear Amar, I am just curios to hear the reason why you think second H Ju Transit is limitted to service to Guru and needy ? Thanks, Anna - "fas fas" <foreignersassistance <gjlist> Saturday, September 13, 2003 3:33 PM Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > Dear Janna, > > Thank you for the clarification. You are truly engaged in spiritual > activities. Materially, you may experience difficulty. However, you are > able and well versed to transend in to spiritual activities. You are like > a lotus flower never touched by water, thus, never let material nature > effects your spiritual growth. That is why lord saturn is transitting in > your natal 12h of detechment as well as guru in the 2nd. house of your natal > chart indicating service to the guru and helping to the needy people. > > My little suggestion to you is that please do not wear any yellow or blue > saphire at all. You must propitiate the guru and shani (including Ra/Ke.) > which ever way you are able to do. > > May Guru enlighten your mind and remove all the obstacles on your way. > Hari Bol. > > Best wishes.............................Amar Puri. > > > > >"Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn > >gjlist > >gjlist > >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > >Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:50:45 -0000 > > > >Oh dear, oh dear, Amar Puri, it is not my writing but a very > >learned astrologer. I got the information from his web site > >((www.agt-gems.com/book/contents.html) because Vivek > >requested more information on planetary gemology. > > > >In fact, I am Cancer lagna (with Cancer Sun 1 degree combust > >Sani in H-1) and TR Sani is in H-12. Actually, I am wondering > >from other Cancer lagnas (and others on the list) about the effect > >of 12th house TR Saturn in Gemini for the next couple of years? > > > >But thank you for wishing me to be the best in health and spirit, > >since Rahu dasa ends in 21 days, followed by Jupiter dasa! I am > >hoping Jupiter dasa will counteract TR Sani in H-12. (And also, > >we are waiting to see if Hurricane Isabel will strike the US > >southeast coast in the next few days). > > > >RE: "I request you to please confirm if you did wear the said > >blue saphire gem > > > in gold in middle finger of your left hand on an auspicous > >time?" > > > >I am thinking that a yellow sapphire or yellow topaz would be > >better for me than a blue sapphire (if Brhaspataye brings any > >abundance my way)? > > > > > > >Satyam Shivam Sundaram > > > >Janna > > > >http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ > > > > > >gjlist, "fas fas" > ><foreignersassistance@h...> wrote: > > > Hello Dear Janna, > > > > > > Hari Bol ! > > > > > > Hope you are in the best of your health and spirit. > > > > > > Thank you for sharing such a elabrated knowledge and your > >personal > > > experience on wearing gems as per article below. It appears > >from your > > > article that you are a leo ascendent and saturn is placed in 12h > >of Cancer > > > in your native chart. > > > > > > I request you to please confirm if you did wear the said blue > >saphire gem > > > in gold in middle finger of your left hand on an auspicous > >time? > > > > > > Thank you again for your kind co-operation. > > > > > > Best wishes...........................Amar Puri. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn> > > > >gjlist > > > >gjlist > > > >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > > > >Fri, 12 Sep 2003 22:06:35 -0000 > > > > > > > >Dear Vivek: Planetary Gemology: > > > >(www.agt-gems.com/book/contents.html): Here is some > >good > > > >background information. > > > > > > > >Blessings, > > > > > > > >Janna > > > >Satyam Shivam Sundaram > > > > > > > >http://seven_directions.tripod.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding gemstones -- How exactly do they work? -- > >From > > > >what > > > > > >I > > > > > > > have heard,they make changes in one's aura. > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >1. First look to the lagna or rising sign and then check the lord > >of > > > >the rising sign to see if it is in an auspicious condition in the > >rasi > > > >and navamsa charts. If this is the case then we > >wholeheartedly > > > >prescribe the gemstone ruled by the lagna's lord. Example: If > > > >one has Leo rising we look to the position of the Sun (Lord of > > > >Leo) in the chart. If the Sun is posited in an auspicious sign, > >e.g., > > > >sign of exaltation, own sign, trine, or at least a friendly sign, it > >will > > > >act in a beneficial way. If any of these are the case then we > >may > > > >recommended ruby or another "Sun jewel" as one's first gem > > > >choice. > > > > > > > >A list of the primary rising sign gems is given as follows: > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > >RISING SIGN (Lagna) RULING PLANET GEMSTONE > > > >Aries Mars Red Coral > > > >Taurus Venus Diamond > > > >Gemini Mercury Emerald > > > >Cancer Moon Pearl > > > >Leo Sun Ruby > > > >Virgo Mercury Emerald > > > >Libra Venus Diamond > > > >Scorpio Mars Coral > > > >Sagittarius Jupiter Yellow Sapphire > > > >Capricorn Saturn Blue Sapphire > > > >Aquarius Saturn Blue Sapphire > > > >Pisces Jupiter Yellow Sapphire > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > >2. We next check the position of the planet ruling one's > > > >mahadasha or major planetary period. If this planet is > > > >well-placed in both the rasi as well as the navamsa charts > >then > > > >we prescribe that planet's gemstone(s) for use during the > > > >duration of the mahadasha period. Example: If one is in or > > > >entering a Jupiter mahadasha and if Jupiter is posited in an > > > >auspicious sign and/or house position, then we recommend > > > >yellow sapphire or another natural yellow gemstone. > > > > > > > >3. Next we look to one's birth sign or Moon rasi , i.e., the sign > >in > > > >which the Moon is posited at the time of one's birth. In > >sidereal > > > >astrology the Moon's sign position is considered very > >important. > > > >Example: If one's Moon sign is Leo, a sign ruled by the Sun, > >then > > > >we must look to the sign and house position of the Sun in the > > > >horoscope. If the Sun is located in an auspicious position in > >both > > > >the rasi chart and the navamsa chart then we can > >recommend a > > > >ruby or other red Sun jewel as one's "birth stone." > > > > > > > >The list of these Vedic "birthstones" as shown in Chapter II is > > > >repeated again here for easy reference: > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > >BIRTHSTONE > > > > > > > >RULING PLANET > > > > > > > >MOON SIGN > > > > > > > >Ruby Sun Leo > > > >Pearl Moon Cancer > > > >Coral Mars Aries/Scorpio > > > >Emerald Mercury Gemini/Virgo > > > >Yellow Sapphire Jupiter Sagittarius/Pisces > > > >Diamond Venus Taurus/Libra > > > >Blue Sapphire Saturn Capricorn/Aquarius > > > >Hessonite Rahu N/A > > > >Cat's eye Ketu N/A > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > >4. We then check the janma-naksatra or the constellation in > > > >which the Moon is posited at birth. Each of these 27 birth > >stars is > > > >ruled by one of the nine planets recognized in sidereal > >astrology. > > > >Example: If one's birth constellation is "punarvasu" (the 7th > > > >constellation), which is ruled by Jupiter, then we look to the > > > >position of Jupiter in the horoscope. If Jupiter is located in an > > > >auspicious sign and/or house position in both the rasi chart > >and > > > >the navamsa chart, then we can recommend yellow sapphire > >or > > > >another yellow "Jupiter" jewel. > > > > > > > >Following is a list of the 27 constellations, their ruling planet > >and > > > >corresponding gemstone: > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > >BIRTH STAR RULED BY GEM > > > >ASWINI KETU CAT'S EYE > > > >BHARANI VENUS DIAMOND > > > >KARTIKAI SUN RUBY > > > >ROHINI MOON PEARL > > > >MRIGASIRA MARS CORAL > > > >ADRA RAHU HESSONITE > > > >PUNARVASU JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > > >PUSHYAM SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > > >ASLESHA MERCURY EMERALD > > > >MAGHAM KETU CAT'S EYE > > > >POORVA-PHALGUNI VENUS DIAMOND > > > >UTTAR-PHALGUNI SUN RUBY > > > >HASTAM MOON PEARL > > > >CHITRA MARS CORAL > > > >SWATI RAHU HESSONITE > > > >VISHAKAM JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > > >ANURADHA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > > >JUSTHA MERCURY EMERALD > > > >MOOLAM KETU CAT'S EYE > > > >POORVASHADA VENUS DIAMOND > > > >UTTARSHADA SUN RUBY > > > >SRAVANA MOON PEARL > > > >DHANISTHA MARS CORAL > > > >POORVABADRAPADA JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > > >UTTARBHADRAPADA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > > >REVATHI MERCURY EMERALD > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > >5. Next we examine all the nine planets in the rasi chart to > >see if > > > >any are exalted. Planets which are in their sign of maximum > > > >strength (exaltation) give positive and beneficial results, and > >their > > > >gemstone(s) may be used with advantage. > > > > > > > >6. Another consideration is sign ownership . A planet which is > > > >located in it's own sign will give beneficial results, and that > > > >planet's gem can also be used to advantage. > > > > > > > >7. A further consideration is any planet which is in it's sign of > > > >mulatrikona or trine. A Planet in mulatrikona gives beneficial > > > >results similar to an exalted planet, and their gem(s) may be > > > >used to advantage. > > > > > > > >8. A planet which is located in a friendly sign will also give > > > >beneficial results, and it's gemstone may be used to > >advantage. > > > > > > > >9. Our final consideration is preference based on the > > > >characteristic "planetary influence." Example: If a person > >wishes > > > >to use a Sun jewel like ruby or red spinel to increase their > >name > > > >and fame, then we will recommend that stone provided the > > > >person's Sun is not located in an unfriendly or inauspicious > >sign > > > >and/or house position in their sidereal horoscope. > > > > > > > >NOTE: It is our practiced and well-considered opinion that > >fine, > > > >natural gemstones do indeed "strengthen" or magnify the > > > >influence of their associated planets. Therefore, lucky planets > >= > > > >lucky gems. If a person intends to wear their lucky gemstone > > > >then they should only use gems which are related to planets > >that > > > >are considered to be "lucky" or posited in an auspicious rasi > > > >(zodiac sign) and/or bhava (house) in their sidereal birth > >chart. > > > >Gemstones do not alter or change the angle, position or > > > >condition in which planets are placed in one's horoscope. > > > >Methods for propitiating or reducing the harmful effects of evil > >or > > > >malevolently placed planets in one's birth chart include the > > > >chanting of planetary mantras, prescribed sacrifices and > >charity. > > > >These may be performed along with the use of associated > > > >planetary gemstones to help "magnify" the prayer. A person > >who > > > >is unwilling to perform these meritorious acts should not use > > > >gems for unlucky planets. > > > > > > > >IMPORTANT: Which ever planetary gemstone(s) you choose > > > >must be free of visible flaws in order to properly transmit > > > >beneficial astral energy. Even though there is precious little > > > >direct information on the use of planetary gemstones in the > > > >Vedic texts, we do have the following quote from the ancient > > > >Agni-puranam, (Chapter 246, Verses 7 & 8): > > > >"A gem free from all impurities > > > >and radiating its characteristic internal luster > > > >should be looked upon as an "escort" of good luck. > > > >A gem which is cracked, fissured, devoid of luster, > > > >or appearing rough or sandy, > > > >should not be used at all." > > > > > > > >With all these methods it is necessary to first cast a person's > > > >sidereal horoscope or janma-patrika (birth chart). This > >requires > > > >very expert calculations based on one's birth date, time and > > > >place. If one doesn't know their birth "time" it is still possible > >to > > > >cast the horoscope accurately enough to see the planetary > >"sign" > > > >positions (although this is much less precise in other areas). > > > >After casting the horoscope, look to see if any of the planets > >are > > > >in "auspicious" rasi positions. All of these "auspicious" sign > > > >positions give good results. According to B.V. Raman, India's > > > >leading astrologer, "A planet in it's own sign is rendered > > > >powerful to do good. A planet in it's sign of exaltation is > >rendered > > > >even more powerful to do good than in it's own sign. A planet > >in > > > >it's sign of mulatrikona is rendered powerful to do good > >similar > > > >to when in exaltation." Planets which are in enemy signs or > > > >which are debilitated usually have harmful or inauspicious > > > >influences. Professor Raman also states that planets which > >are > > > >debilitated give results opposite of when in strong sign > > > >positions. In other words, "bad results." (NOTE: There are > >certain > > > >astrological considerations which may "cancel" harmful > > > >planetary positions; but it is the opinion of most sidereal > > > >astrologers that "once a bad planet, always a bad planet.") > > > > > > > >An example may be taken from one of my own experiences > >with > > > >gem therapy. According to my Sidereal horoscope I have > >some > > > >exalted (strong) planets, some weak planets and some > >negative > > > >planets. Saturn in particular is already a krura-graha or cruel > > > >planet and it's position in my horoscope is even worse. Still, I > > > >was advised by some sidereal astrologers to use a blue > > > >sapphire, the gem for Saturn, in order to "pacify" Saturn's > >harmful > > > >influence on me. This brings up the question of how gems > > > >should be chosen and what their effects will be. One group > > > >opines that gems should be used to "pacify" harmful planets; > > > >another group believes that gems should be used to > > > >"strengthen" weak planetary influences. While yet another > >belief > > > >is in "strengthening" beneficial or auspicious planets. Let me > > > >relate my own experience and tell what my final conclusion is. > > > >Every Sidereal astrologer who has read my chart points out > >that > > > >Saturn in Cancer in the 12th house is quite malefic and is > > > >causing me many of the more long lasting problems in my > >life. I > > > >was advised to wear a blue sapphire to "pacify" Saturn. After a > > > >long search I found a 7 carat flawless, unburned, "Brahmin" > > > >colored blue sapphire from Burma. I bought the gem, > > > >immediately had it set into a special gold ring, and on > >Saturday, > > > >two hours and forty minutes before sunset, I installed the ring > > > >after reciting the appropriate mantras. > > > > > > > >Almost as soon as I started wearing this most auspicious > >blue > > > >sapphire I began having ill fortune. I started getting frequent > > > >headaches and my business started slowing down along > >with > > > >my energy level. Almost everything I did was beset with > > > >obstacles. Finally, after using the stone for almost 1 year, I > >took it > > > >off in frustration. Later I had the opportunity to show my birth > >chart > > > >to Pandit Vidyadhar Shukla (the Chief Brahmin Priest of > > > >Thailand) who confirmed that Saturn was indeed a "bad > > > >influence" for me. He further suggested that as the blue > >sapphire > > > >had made matters worse this was a good case against the > > > >theory that gems "pacify" harmful planets. He suggested that I > > > >should wear a ruby to "strengthen" the Sun in order to > >counteract > > > >Saturn's harmful influence. Since following this advise I have > > > >experienced much better effects on both my heath, business > >and > > > >over-all outlook. > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > >*Since Rahu and Ketu are Aprakasha or "shadow planets," > >they > > > >reflect the qualities of the lord of the sign they occupy. > >Example: If > > > >Rahu is located in Virgo, a sign ruled by Mercury, you should > >look > > > >to the position of Mercury in the chart and predict similar > >results > > > >for Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > >We welcome any input from readers about their own > > > >experiences with gems and their astral powers. > > > > > >------ > > > >Ancient Astrological Gemstones & Talismans index, Astral > > > >Gemstone Talismans main directory. > > > > > >------ > > > >Click here agt_gems@a... to contact AGT. > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > >HRISIKESH LTD. > > > >Hrisikesh Plaza, C3 Building Joe Louis Theatre, > > > >Lumpini Night Bazaar, 1875 Rama 4 Road, > > > >Lumpini, Pathumwan, Bangkok, Kingdom of Thailand > > > >Tel: (66-2) 2521230 / Fax: (66-2) 241-2535 > > > >E-mail: E-mail > > > > > >_______________ > >_ > > > >_ > > > > > > > Law meets Electronics; Veena Weds Sanjay. > > > > > > > Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match !! > > > > > > > Visit http://rediff.com/matchmaker?1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om > >Tat > > > >Sat > > > > > > > : > > > > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > >Sat > > > > > >: > > > > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > >_ > > > >_ > > > > > Law meets Electronics; Veena Weds Sanjay. > > > > > Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match !! > > > > > Visit http://rediff.com/matchmaker?1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > >: > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > >: gjlist- > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > _______________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 Dear Anna and Amar: I humbly thank you both for your advice, and I will take it without asking the reason, as it is generously offered. Actually, I do not have the means to purchase either a blue or a yellow sapphire: it is through mantra and meditation, reflection and contemplation, discrimination and detachment that I propitiate the planets and thus try to keep my auric body in balance. (Perhaps I should clarify that it is my abyasa, or self-effort, to keep these ideals as a daily conscious practice in my life in the hope that I may one day integrate them more fully in my practical life). Yes. I have an appreciation for gemology, as I do astrology and many of the sacred, occult sciences, but I also believe from my personal experience that these are "points of departure" and should be incorporated to enhance spiritual practice, not substitute for it, so that one day these material "names and forms" may be transcended. In the meantime, they are among those who serve as "guides" and gurus to true illumination. Satyam Shivam Sundaram Janna http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ gjlist, "N.Anna" <anmar@a...> wrote: > Dear Janna and Amar, > > I agree with you- no sapphire neither Blue nor yellow- let Ju MD do it it's > own way! > > Regards, > Anna > - > "fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...> > <gjlist> > Saturday, September 13, 2003 3:33 PM > Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > > > > Dear Janna, > > > > Thank you for the clarification. You are truly engaged in spiritual > > activities. Materially, you may experience difficulty. However, you are > > able and well versed to transend in to spiritual activities. You are > like > > a lotus flower never touched by water, thus, never let material nature > > effects your spiritual growth. That is why lord saturn is transitting in > > your natal 12h of detechment as well as guru in the 2nd. house of your > natal > > chart indicating service to the guru and helping to the needy people. > > > > My little suggestion to you is that please do not wear any yellow or blue > > saphire at all. You must propitiate the guru and shani (including Ra/Ke.) > > which ever way you are able to do. > > > > May Guru enlighten your mind and remove all the obstacles on your way. > > Hari Bol. > > > > Best wishes.............................Amar Puri. > > > > > > > > >"Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn> > > >gjlist > > >gjlist > > >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > > >Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:50:45 -0000 > > > > > >Oh dear, oh dear, Amar Puri, it is not my writing but a very > > >learned astrologer. I got the information from his web site > > >((www.agt-gems.com/book/contents.html) because Vivek > > >requested more information on planetary gemology. > > > > > >In fact, I am Cancer lagna (with Cancer Sun 1 degree combust > > >Sani in H-1) and TR Sani is in H-12. Actually, I am wondering > > >from other Cancer lagnas (and others on the list) about the effect > > >of 12th house TR Saturn in Gemini for the next couple of years? > > > > > >But thank you for wishing me to be the best in health and spirit, > > >since Rahu dasa ends in 21 days, followed by Jupiter dasa! I am > > >hoping Jupiter dasa will counteract TR Sani in H-12. (And also, > > >we are waiting to see if Hurricane Isabel will strike the US > > >southeast coast in the next few days). > > > > > >RE: "I request you to please confirm if you did wear the said > > >blue saphire gem > > > > in gold in middle finger of your left hand on an auspicous > > >time?" > > > > > >I am thinking that a yellow sapphire or yellow topaz would be > > >better for me than a blue sapphire (if Brhaspataye brings any > > >abundance my way)? > > > > > > > > > >Satyam Shivam Sundaram > > > > > >Janna > > > > > >http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ > > > > > > > > >gjlist, "fas fas" > > ><foreignersassistance@h...> wrote: > > > > Hello Dear Janna, > > > > > > > > Hari Bol ! > > > > > > > > Hope you are in the best of your health and spirit. > > > > > > > > Thank you for sharing such a elabrated knowledge and your > > >personal > > > > experience on wearing gems as per article below. It appears > > >from your > > > > article that you are a leo ascendent and saturn is placed in 12h > > >of Cancer > > > > in your native chart. > > > > > > > > I request you to please confirm if you did wear the said blue > > >saphire gem > > > > in gold in middle finger of your left hand on an auspicous > > >time? > > > > > > > > Thank you again for your kind co-operation. > > > > > > > > Best wishes...........................Amar Puri. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn> > > > > >gjlist > > > > >gjlist > > > > >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > > > > >Fri, 12 Sep 2003 22:06:35 -0000 > > > > > > > > > >Dear Vivek: Planetary Gemology: > > > > >(www.agt-gems.com/book/contents.html): Here is some > > >good > > > > >background information. > > > > > > > > > >Blessings, > > > > > > > > > >Janna > > > > >Satyam Shivam Sundaram > > > > > > > > > >http://seven_directions.tripod.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding gemstones -- How exactly do they work? -- > > >From > > > > >what > > > > > > >I > > > > > > > > have heard,they make changes in one's aura. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >1. First look to the lagna or rising sign and then check the lord > > >of > > > > >the rising sign to see if it is in an auspicious condition in the > > >rasi > > > > >and navamsa charts. If this is the case then we > > >wholeheartedly > > > > >prescribe the gemstone ruled by the lagna's lord. Example: If > > > > >one has Leo rising we look to the position of the Sun (Lord of > > > > >Leo) in the chart. If the Sun is posited in an auspicious sign, > > >e.g., > > > > >sign of exaltation, own sign, trine, or at least a friendly sign, it > > >will > > > > >act in a beneficial way. If any of these are the case then we > > >may > > > > >recommended ruby or another "Sun jewel" as one's first gem > > > > >choice. > > > > > > > > > >A list of the primary rising sign gems is given as follows: > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > >RISING SIGN (Lagna) RULING PLANET GEMSTONE > > > > >Aries Mars Red Coral > > > > >Taurus Venus Diamond > > > > >Gemini Mercury Emerald > > > > >Cancer Moon Pearl > > > > >Leo Sun Ruby > > > > >Virgo Mercury Emerald > > > > >Libra Venus Diamond > > > > >Scorpio Mars Coral > > > > >Sagittarius Jupiter Yellow Sapphire > > > > >Capricorn Saturn Blue Sapphire > > > > >Aquarius Saturn Blue Sapphire > > > > >Pisces Jupiter Yellow Sapphire > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > >2. We next check the position of the planet ruling one's > > > > >mahadasha or major planetary period. If this planet is > > > > >well-placed in both the rasi as well as the navamsa charts > > >then > > > > >we prescribe that planet's gemstone(s) for use during the > > > > >duration of the mahadasha period. Example: If one is in or > > > > >entering a Jupiter mahadasha and if Jupiter is posited in an > > > > >auspicious sign and/or house position, then we recommend > > > > >yellow sapphire or another natural yellow gemstone. > > > > > > > > > >3. Next we look to one's birth sign or Moon rasi , i.e., the sign > > >in > > > > >which the Moon is posited at the time of one's birth. In > > >sidereal > > > > >astrology the Moon's sign position is considered very > > >important. > > > > >Example: If one's Moon sign is Leo, a sign ruled by the Sun, > > >then > > > > >we must look to the sign and house position of the Sun in the > > > > >horoscope. If the Sun is located in an auspicious position in > > >both > > > > >the rasi chart and the navamsa chart then we can > > >recommend a > > > > >ruby or other red Sun jewel as one's "birth stone." > > > > > > > > > >The list of these Vedic "birthstones" as shown in Chapter II is > > > > >repeated again here for easy reference: > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > >BIRTHSTONE > > > > > > > > > >RULING PLANET > > > > > > > > > >MOON SIGN > > > > > > > > > >Ruby Sun Leo > > > > >Pearl Moon Cancer > > > > >Coral Mars Aries/Scorpio > > > > >Emerald Mercury Gemini/Virgo > > > > >Yellow Sapphire Jupiter Sagittarius/Pisces > > > > >Diamond Venus Taurus/Libra > > > > >Blue Sapphire Saturn Capricorn/Aquarius > > > > >Hessonite Rahu N/A > > > > >Cat's eye Ketu N/A > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > >4. We then check the janma-naksatra or the constellation in > > > > >which the Moon is posited at birth. Each of these 27 birth > > >stars is > > > > >ruled by one of the nine planets recognized in sidereal > > >astrology. > > > > >Example: If one's birth constellation is "punarvasu" (the 7th > > > > >constellation), which is ruled by Jupiter, then we look to the > > > > >position of Jupiter in the horoscope. If Jupiter is located in an > > > > >auspicious sign and/or house position in both the rasi chart > > >and > > > > >the navamsa chart, then we can recommend yellow sapphire > > >or > > > > >another yellow "Jupiter" jewel. > > > > > > > > > >Following is a list of the 27 constellations, their ruling planet > > >and > > > > >corresponding gemstone: > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > >BIRTH STAR RULED BY GEM > > > > >ASWINI KETU CAT'S EYE > > > > >BHARANI VENUS DIAMOND > > > > >KARTIKAI SUN RUBY > > > > >ROHINI MOON PEARL > > > > >MRIGASIRA MARS CORAL > > > > >ADRA RAHU HESSONITE > > > > >PUNARVASU JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > > > >PUSHYAM SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > > > >ASLESHA MERCURY EMERALD > > > > >MAGHAM KETU CAT'S EYE > > > > >POORVA-PHALGUNI VENUS DIAMOND > > > > >UTTAR-PHALGUNI SUN RUBY > > > > >HASTAM MOON PEARL > > > > >CHITRA MARS CORAL > > > > >SWATI RAHU HESSONITE > > > > >VISHAKAM JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > > > >ANURADHA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > > > >JUSTHA MERCURY EMERALD > > > > >MOOLAM KETU CAT'S EYE > > > > >POORVASHADA VENUS DIAMOND > > > > >UTTARSHADA SUN RUBY > > > > >SRAVANA MOON PEARL > > > > >DHANISTHA MARS CORAL > > > > >POORVABADRAPADA JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > > > >UTTARBHADRAPADA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > > > >REVATHI MERCURY EMERALD > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > >5. Next we examine all the nine planets in the rasi chart to > > >see if > > > > >any are exalted. Planets which are in their sign of maximum > > > > >strength (exaltation) give positive and beneficial results, and > > >their > > > > >gemstone(s) may be used with advantage. > > > > > > > > > >6. Another consideration is sign ownership . A planet which is > > > > >located in it's own sign will give beneficial results, and that > > > > >planet's gem can also be used to advantage. > > > > > > > > > >7. A further consideration is any planet which is in it's sign of > > > > >mulatrikona or trine. A Planet in mulatrikona gives beneficial > > > > >results similar to an exalted planet, and their gem(s) may be > > > > >used to advantage. > > > > > > > > > >8. A planet which is located in a friendly sign will also give > > > > >beneficial results, and it's gemstone may be used to > > >advantage. > > > > > > > > > >9. Our final consideration is preference based on the > > > > >characteristic "planetary influence." Example: If a person > > >wishes > > > > >to use a Sun jewel like ruby or red spinel to increase their > > >name > > > > >and fame, then we will recommend that stone provided the > > > > >person's Sun is not located in an unfriendly or inauspicious > > >sign > > > > >and/or house position in their sidereal horoscope. > > > > > > > > > >NOTE: It is our practiced and well-considered opinion that > > >fine, > > > > >natural gemstones do indeed "strengthen" or magnify the > > > > >influence of their associated planets. Therefore, lucky planets > > >= > > > > >lucky gems. If a person intends to wear their lucky gemstone > > > > >then they should only use gems which are related to planets > > >that > > > > >are considered to be "lucky" or posited in an auspicious rasi > > > > >(zodiac sign) and/or bhava (house) in their sidereal birth > > >chart. > > > > >Gemstones do not alter or change the angle, position or > > > > >condition in which planets are placed in one's horoscope. > > > > >Methods for propitiating or reducing the harmful effects of evil > > >or > > > > >malevolently placed planets in one's birth chart include the > > > > >chanting of planetary mantras, prescribed sacrifices and > > >charity. > > > > >These may be performed along with the use of associated > > > > >planetary gemstones to help "magnify" the prayer. A person > > >who > > > > >is unwilling to perform these meritorious acts should not use > > > > >gems for unlucky planets. > > > > > > > > > >IMPORTANT: Which ever planetary gemstone(s) you choose > > > > >must be free of visible flaws in order to properly transmit > > > > >beneficial astral energy. Even though there is precious little > > > > >direct information on the use of planetary gemstones in the > > > > >Vedic texts, we do have the following quote from the ancient > > > > >Agni-puranam, (Chapter 246, Verses 7 & 8): > > > > >"A gem free from all impurities > > > > >and radiating its characteristic internal luster > > > > >should be looked upon as an "escort" of good luck. > > > > >A gem which is cracked, fissured, devoid of luster, > > > > >or appearing rough or sandy, > > > > >should not be used at all." > > > > > > > > > >With all these methods it is necessary to first cast a person's > > > > >sidereal horoscope or janma-patrika (birth chart). This > > >requires > > > > >very expert calculations based on one's birth date, time and > > > > >place. If one doesn't know their birth "time" it is still possible > > >to > > > > >cast the horoscope accurately enough to see the planetary > > >"sign" > > > > >positions (although this is much less precise in other areas). > > > > >After casting the horoscope, look to see if any of the planets > > >are > > > > >in "auspicious" rasi positions. All of these "auspicious" sign > > > > >positions give good results. According to B.V. Raman, India's > > > > >leading astrologer, "A planet in it's own sign is rendered > > > > >powerful to do good. A planet in it's sign of exaltation is > > >rendered > > > > >even more powerful to do good than in it's own sign. A planet > > >in > > > > >it's sign of mulatrikona is rendered powerful to do good > > >similar > > > > >to when in exaltation." Planets which are in enemy signs or > > > > >which are debilitated usually have harmful or inauspicious > > > > >influences. Professor Raman also states that planets which > > >are > > > > >debilitated give results opposite of when in strong sign > > > > >positions. In other words, "bad results." (NOTE: There are > > >certain > > > > >astrological considerations which may "cancel" harmful > > > > >planetary positions; but it is the opinion of most sidereal > > > > >astrologers that "once a bad planet, always a bad planet.") > > > > > > > > > >An example may be taken from one of my own experiences > > >with > > > > >gem therapy. According to my Sidereal horoscope I have > > >some > > > > >exalted (strong) planets, some weak planets and some > > >negative > > > > >planets. Saturn in particular is already a krura-graha or cruel > > > > >planet and it's position in my horoscope is even worse. Still, I > > > > >was advised by some sidereal astrologers to use a blue > > > > >sapphire, the gem for Saturn, in order to "pacify" Saturn's > > >harmful > > > > >influence on me. This brings up the question of how gems > > > > >should be chosen and what their effects will be. One group > > > > >opines that gems should be used to "pacify" harmful planets; > > > > >another group believes that gems should be used to > > > > >"strengthen" weak planetary influences. While yet another > > >belief > > > > >is in "strengthening" beneficial or auspicious planets. Let me > > > > >relate my own experience and tell what my final conclusion is. > > > > >Every Sidereal astrologer who has read my chart points out > > >that > > > > >Saturn in Cancer in the 12th house is quite malefic and is > > > > >causing me many of the more long lasting problems in my > > >life. I > > > > >was advised to wear a blue sapphire to "pacify" Saturn. After a > > > > >long search I found a 7 carat flawless, unburned, "Brahmin" > > > > >colored blue sapphire from Burma. I bought the gem, > > > > >immediately had it set into a special gold ring, and on > > >Saturday, > > > > >two hours and forty minutes before sunset, I installed the ring > > > > >after reciting the appropriate mantras. > > > > > > > > > >Almost as soon as I started wearing this most auspicious > > >blue > > > > >sapphire I began having ill fortune. I started getting frequent > > > > >headaches and my business started slowing down along > > >with > > > > >my energy level. Almost everything I did was beset with > > > > >obstacles. Finally, after using the stone for almost 1 year, I > > >took it > > > > >off in frustration. Later I had the opportunity to show my birth > > >chart > > > > >to Pandit Vidyadhar Shukla (the Chief Brahmin Priest of > > > > >Thailand) who confirmed that Saturn was indeed a "bad > > > > >influence" for me. He further suggested that as the blue > > >sapphire > > > > >had made matters worse this was a good case against the > > > > >theory that gems "pacify" harmful planets. He suggested that I > > > > >should wear a ruby to "strengthen" the Sun in order to > > >counteract > > > > >Saturn's harmful influence. Since following this advise I have > > > > >experienced much better effects on both my heath, business > > >and > > > > >over-all outlook. > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > >*Since Rahu and Ketu are Aprakasha or "shadow planets," > > >they > > > > >reflect the qualities of the lord of the sign they occupy. > > >Example: If > > > > >Rahu is located in Virgo, a sign ruled by Mercury, you should > > >look > > > > >to the position of Mercury in the chart and predict similar > > >results > > > > >for Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > >We welcome any input from readers about their own > > > > >experiences with gems and their astral powers. > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > >Ancient Astrological Gemstones & Talismans index, Astral > > > > >Gemstone Talismans main directory. > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > >Click here agt_gems@a... to contact AGT. > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > >HRISIKESH LTD. > > > > >Hrisikesh Plaza, C3 Building Joe Louis Theatre, > > > > >Lumpini Night Bazaar, 1875 Rama 4 Road, > > > > >Lumpini, Pathumwan, Bangkok, Kingdom of Thailand > > > > >Tel: (66-2) 2521230 / Fax: (66-2) 241-2535 > > > > >E-mail: E-mail > > > > > > > >_______________ > > >_ > > > > >_ > > > > > > > > Law meets Electronics; Veena Weds Sanjay. > > > > > > > > Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match !! > > > > > > > > Visit http://rediff.com/matchmaker?1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om > > >Tat > > > > >Sat > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > > >Sat > > > > > > >: > > > > > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > > >_ > > > > >_ > > > > > > Law meets Electronics; Veena Weds Sanjay. > > > > > > Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match !! > > > > > > Visit http://rediff.com/matchmaker?1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > > >: > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ _ > > >_______________ > > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > >: gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 Dear Anna, Hope you are in the best of your health and spirit. Would you please clarify this where do you read as; second H Ju Transit is limited to service to Guru and needy? Best wishes.................................Amar Puri. >"N.Anna" <anmar >gjlist ><gjlist> >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology >Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:09:03 -0400 > >Dear Amar, > >I am just curios to hear the reason why you think second H Ju Transit is >limitted to service to Guru and needy ? >Thanks, >Anna > >- >"fas fas" <foreignersassistance ><gjlist> >Saturday, September 13, 2003 3:33 PM >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > > > > Dear Janna, > > > > Thank you for the clarification. You are truly engaged in spiritual > > activities. Materially, you may experience difficulty. However, you >are > > able and well versed to transend in to spiritual activities. You are >like > > a lotus flower never touched by water, thus, never let material nature > > effects your spiritual growth. That is why lord saturn is transitting >in > > your natal 12h of detechment as well as guru in the 2nd. house of your >natal > > chart indicating service to the guru and helping to the needy people. > > > > My little suggestion to you is that please do not wear any yellow or >blue > > saphire at all. You must propitiate the guru and shani (including >Ra/Ke.) > > which ever way you are able to do. > > > > May Guru enlighten your mind and remove all the obstacles on your way. > > Hari Bol. > > > > Best wishes.............................Amar Puri. > > > > > > > > >"Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn > > >gjlist > > >gjlist > > >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > > >Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:50:45 -0000 > > > > > >Oh dear, oh dear, Amar Puri, it is not my writing but a very > > >learned astrologer. I got the information from his web site > > >((www.agt-gems.com/book/contents.html) because Vivek > > >requested more information on planetary gemology. > > > > > >In fact, I am Cancer lagna (with Cancer Sun 1 degree combust > > >Sani in H-1) and TR Sani is in H-12. Actually, I am wondering > > >from other Cancer lagnas (and others on the list) about the effect > > >of 12th house TR Saturn in Gemini for the next couple of years? > > > > > >But thank you for wishing me to be the best in health and spirit, > > >since Rahu dasa ends in 21 days, followed by Jupiter dasa! I am > > >hoping Jupiter dasa will counteract TR Sani in H-12. (And also, > > >we are waiting to see if Hurricane Isabel will strike the US > > >southeast coast in the next few days). > > > > > >RE: "I request you to please confirm if you did wear the said > > >blue saphire gem > > > > in gold in middle finger of your left hand on an auspicous > > >time?" > > > > > >I am thinking that a yellow sapphire or yellow topaz would be > > >better for me than a blue sapphire (if Brhaspataye brings any > > >abundance my way)? > > > > > > > > > >Satyam Shivam Sundaram > > > > > >Janna > > > > > >http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ > > > > > > > > >gjlist, "fas fas" > > ><foreignersassistance@h...> wrote: > > > > Hello Dear Janna, > > > > > > > > Hari Bol ! > > > > > > > > Hope you are in the best of your health and spirit. > > > > > > > > Thank you for sharing such a elabrated knowledge and your > > >personal > > > > experience on wearing gems as per article below. It appears > > >from your > > > > article that you are a leo ascendent and saturn is placed in 12h > > >of Cancer > > > > in your native chart. > > > > > > > > I request you to please confirm if you did wear the said blue > > >saphire gem > > > > in gold in middle finger of your left hand on an auspicous > > >time? > > > > > > > > Thank you again for your kind co-operation. > > > > > > > > Best wishes...........................Amar Puri. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn> > > > > >gjlist > > > > >gjlist > > > > >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > > > > >Fri, 12 Sep 2003 22:06:35 -0000 > > > > > > > > > >Dear Vivek: Planetary Gemology: > > > > >(www.agt-gems.com/book/contents.html): Here is some > > >good > > > > >background information. > > > > > > > > > >Blessings, > > > > > > > > > >Janna > > > > >Satyam Shivam Sundaram > > > > > > > > > >http://seven_directions.tripod.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding gemstones -- How exactly do they work? -- > > >From > > > > >what > > > > > > >I > > > > > > > > have heard,they make changes in one's aura. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >1. First look to the lagna or rising sign and then check the lord > > >of > > > > >the rising sign to see if it is in an auspicious condition in the > > >rasi > > > > >and navamsa charts. If this is the case then we > > >wholeheartedly > > > > >prescribe the gemstone ruled by the lagna's lord. Example: If > > > > >one has Leo rising we look to the position of the Sun (Lord of > > > > >Leo) in the chart. If the Sun is posited in an auspicious sign, > > >e.g., > > > > >sign of exaltation, own sign, trine, or at least a friendly sign, >it > > >will > > > > >act in a beneficial way. If any of these are the case then we > > >may > > > > >recommended ruby or another "Sun jewel" as one's first gem > > > > >choice. > > > > > > > > > >A list of the primary rising sign gems is given as follows: > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > >RISING SIGN (Lagna) RULING PLANET GEMSTONE > > > > >Aries Mars Red Coral > > > > >Taurus Venus Diamond > > > > >Gemini Mercury Emerald > > > > >Cancer Moon Pearl > > > > >Leo Sun Ruby > > > > >Virgo Mercury Emerald > > > > >Libra Venus Diamond > > > > >Scorpio Mars Coral > > > > >Sagittarius Jupiter Yellow Sapphire > > > > >Capricorn Saturn Blue Sapphire > > > > >Aquarius Saturn Blue Sapphire > > > > >Pisces Jupiter Yellow Sapphire > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > >2. We next check the position of the planet ruling one's > > > > >mahadasha or major planetary period. If this planet is > > > > >well-placed in both the rasi as well as the navamsa charts > > >then > > > > >we prescribe that planet's gemstone(s) for use during the > > > > >duration of the mahadasha period. Example: If one is in or > > > > >entering a Jupiter mahadasha and if Jupiter is posited in an > > > > >auspicious sign and/or house position, then we recommend > > > > >yellow sapphire or another natural yellow gemstone. > > > > > > > > > >3. Next we look to one's birth sign or Moon rasi , i.e., the sign > > >in > > > > >which the Moon is posited at the time of one's birth. In > > >sidereal > > > > >astrology the Moon's sign position is considered very > > >important. > > > > >Example: If one's Moon sign is Leo, a sign ruled by the Sun, > > >then > > > > >we must look to the sign and house position of the Sun in the > > > > >horoscope. If the Sun is located in an auspicious position in > > >both > > > > >the rasi chart and the navamsa chart then we can > > >recommend a > > > > >ruby or other red Sun jewel as one's "birth stone." > > > > > > > > > >The list of these Vedic "birthstones" as shown in Chapter II is > > > > >repeated again here for easy reference: > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > >BIRTHSTONE > > > > > > > > > >RULING PLANET > > > > > > > > > >MOON SIGN > > > > > > > > > >Ruby Sun Leo > > > > >Pearl Moon Cancer > > > > >Coral Mars Aries/Scorpio > > > > >Emerald Mercury Gemini/Virgo > > > > >Yellow Sapphire Jupiter Sagittarius/Pisces > > > > >Diamond Venus Taurus/Libra > > > > >Blue Sapphire Saturn Capricorn/Aquarius > > > > >Hessonite Rahu N/A > > > > >Cat's eye Ketu N/A > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > >4. We then check the janma-naksatra or the constellation in > > > > >which the Moon is posited at birth. Each of these 27 birth > > >stars is > > > > >ruled by one of the nine planets recognized in sidereal > > >astrology. > > > > >Example: If one's birth constellation is "punarvasu" (the 7th > > > > >constellation), which is ruled by Jupiter, then we look to the > > > > >position of Jupiter in the horoscope. If Jupiter is located in an > > > > >auspicious sign and/or house position in both the rasi chart > > >and > > > > >the navamsa chart, then we can recommend yellow sapphire > > >or > > > > >another yellow "Jupiter" jewel. > > > > > > > > > >Following is a list of the 27 constellations, their ruling planet > > >and > > > > >corresponding gemstone: > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > >BIRTH STAR RULED BY GEM > > > > >ASWINI KETU CAT'S EYE > > > > >BHARANI VENUS DIAMOND > > > > >KARTIKAI SUN RUBY > > > > >ROHINI MOON PEARL > > > > >MRIGASIRA MARS CORAL > > > > >ADRA RAHU HESSONITE > > > > >PUNARVASU JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > > > >PUSHYAM SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > > > >ASLESHA MERCURY EMERALD > > > > >MAGHAM KETU CAT'S EYE > > > > >POORVA-PHALGUNI VENUS DIAMOND > > > > >UTTAR-PHALGUNI SUN RUBY > > > > >HASTAM MOON PEARL > > > > >CHITRA MARS CORAL > > > > >SWATI RAHU HESSONITE > > > > >VISHAKAM JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > > > >ANURADHA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > > > >JUSTHA MERCURY EMERALD > > > > >MOOLAM KETU CAT'S EYE > > > > >POORVASHADA VENUS DIAMOND > > > > >UTTARSHADA SUN RUBY > > > > >SRAVANA MOON PEARL > > > > >DHANISTHA MARS CORAL > > > > >POORVABADRAPADA JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > > > >UTTARBHADRAPADA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > > > >REVATHI MERCURY EMERALD > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > >5. Next we examine all the nine planets in the rasi chart to > > >see if > > > > >any are exalted. Planets which are in their sign of maximum > > > > >strength (exaltation) give positive and beneficial results, and > > >their > > > > >gemstone(s) may be used with advantage. > > > > > > > > > >6. Another consideration is sign ownership . A planet which is > > > > >located in it's own sign will give beneficial results, and that > > > > >planet's gem can also be used to advantage. > > > > > > > > > >7. A further consideration is any planet which is in it's sign of > > > > >mulatrikona or trine. A Planet in mulatrikona gives beneficial > > > > >results similar to an exalted planet, and their gem(s) may be > > > > >used to advantage. > > > > > > > > > >8. A planet which is located in a friendly sign will also give > > > > >beneficial results, and it's gemstone may be used to > > >advantage. > > > > > > > > > >9. Our final consideration is preference based on the > > > > >characteristic "planetary influence." Example: If a person > > >wishes > > > > >to use a Sun jewel like ruby or red spinel to increase their > > >name > > > > >and fame, then we will recommend that stone provided the > > > > >person's Sun is not located in an unfriendly or inauspicious > > >sign > > > > >and/or house position in their sidereal horoscope. > > > > > > > > > >NOTE: It is our practiced and well-considered opinion that > > >fine, > > > > >natural gemstones do indeed "strengthen" or magnify the > > > > >influence of their associated planets. Therefore, lucky planets > > >= > > > > >lucky gems. If a person intends to wear their lucky gemstone > > > > >then they should only use gems which are related to planets > > >that > > > > >are considered to be "lucky" or posited in an auspicious rasi > > > > >(zodiac sign) and/or bhava (house) in their sidereal birth > > >chart. > > > > >Gemstones do not alter or change the angle, position or > > > > >condition in which planets are placed in one's horoscope. > > > > >Methods for propitiating or reducing the harmful effects of evil > > >or > > > > >malevolently placed planets in one's birth chart include the > > > > >chanting of planetary mantras, prescribed sacrifices and > > >charity. > > > > >These may be performed along with the use of associated > > > > >planetary gemstones to help "magnify" the prayer. A person > > >who > > > > >is unwilling to perform these meritorious acts should not use > > > > >gems for unlucky planets. > > > > > > > > > >IMPORTANT: Which ever planetary gemstone(s) you choose > > > > >must be free of visible flaws in order to properly transmit > > > > >beneficial astral energy. Even though there is precious little > > > > >direct information on the use of planetary gemstones in the > > > > >Vedic texts, we do have the following quote from the ancient > > > > >Agni-puranam, (Chapter 246, Verses 7 & 8): > > > > >"A gem free from all impurities > > > > >and radiating its characteristic internal luster > > > > >should be looked upon as an "escort" of good luck. > > > > >A gem which is cracked, fissured, devoid of luster, > > > > >or appearing rough or sandy, > > > > >should not be used at all." > > > > > > > > > >With all these methods it is necessary to first cast a person's > > > > >sidereal horoscope or janma-patrika (birth chart). This > > >requires > > > > >very expert calculations based on one's birth date, time and > > > > >place. If one doesn't know their birth "time" it is still possible > > >to > > > > >cast the horoscope accurately enough to see the planetary > > >"sign" > > > > >positions (although this is much less precise in other areas). > > > > >After casting the horoscope, look to see if any of the planets > > >are > > > > >in "auspicious" rasi positions. All of these "auspicious" sign > > > > >positions give good results. According to B.V. Raman, India's > > > > >leading astrologer, "A planet in it's own sign is rendered > > > > >powerful to do good. A planet in it's sign of exaltation is > > >rendered > > > > >even more powerful to do good than in it's own sign. A planet > > >in > > > > >it's sign of mulatrikona is rendered powerful to do good > > >similar > > > > >to when in exaltation." Planets which are in enemy signs or > > > > >which are debilitated usually have harmful or inauspicious > > > > >influences. Professor Raman also states that planets which > > >are > > > > >debilitated give results opposite of when in strong sign > > > > >positions. In other words, "bad results." (NOTE: There are > > >certain > > > > >astrological considerations which may "cancel" harmful > > > > >planetary positions; but it is the opinion of most sidereal > > > > >astrologers that "once a bad planet, always a bad planet.") > > > > > > > > > >An example may be taken from one of my own experiences > > >with > > > > >gem therapy. According to my Sidereal horoscope I have > > >some > > > > >exalted (strong) planets, some weak planets and some > > >negative > > > > >planets. Saturn in particular is already a krura-graha or cruel > > > > >planet and it's position in my horoscope is even worse. Still, I > > > > >was advised by some sidereal astrologers to use a blue > > > > >sapphire, the gem for Saturn, in order to "pacify" Saturn's > > >harmful > > > > >influence on me. This brings up the question of how gems > > > > >should be chosen and what their effects will be. One group > > > > >opines that gems should be used to "pacify" harmful planets; > > > > >another group believes that gems should be used to > > > > >"strengthen" weak planetary influences. While yet another > > >belief > > > > >is in "strengthening" beneficial or auspicious planets. Let me > > > > >relate my own experience and tell what my final conclusion is. > > > > >Every Sidereal astrologer who has read my chart points out > > >that > > > > >Saturn in Cancer in the 12th house is quite malefic and is > > > > >causing me many of the more long lasting problems in my > > >life. I > > > > >was advised to wear a blue sapphire to "pacify" Saturn. After a > > > > >long search I found a 7 carat flawless, unburned, "Brahmin" > > > > >colored blue sapphire from Burma. I bought the gem, > > > > >immediately had it set into a special gold ring, and on > > >Saturday, > > > > >two hours and forty minutes before sunset, I installed the ring > > > > >after reciting the appropriate mantras. > > > > > > > > > >Almost as soon as I started wearing this most auspicious > > >blue > > > > >sapphire I began having ill fortune. I started getting frequent > > > > >headaches and my business started slowing down along > > >with > > > > >my energy level. Almost everything I did was beset with > > > > >obstacles. Finally, after using the stone for almost 1 year, I > > >took it > > > > >off in frustration. Later I had the opportunity to show my birth > > >chart > > > > >to Pandit Vidyadhar Shukla (the Chief Brahmin Priest of > > > > >Thailand) who confirmed that Saturn was indeed a "bad > > > > >influence" for me. He further suggested that as the blue > > >sapphire > > > > >had made matters worse this was a good case against the > > > > >theory that gems "pacify" harmful planets. He suggested that I > > > > >should wear a ruby to "strengthen" the Sun in order to > > >counteract > > > > >Saturn's harmful influence. Since following this advise I have > > > > >experienced much better effects on both my heath, business > > >and > > > > >over-all outlook. > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > >*Since Rahu and Ketu are Aprakasha or "shadow planets," > > >they > > > > >reflect the qualities of the lord of the sign they occupy. > > >Example: If > > > > >Rahu is located in Virgo, a sign ruled by Mercury, you should > > >look > > > > >to the position of Mercury in the chart and predict similar > > >results > > > > >for Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > >We welcome any input from readers about their own > > > > >experiences with gems and their astral powers. > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > >Ancient Astrological Gemstones & Talismans index, Astral > > > > >Gemstone Talismans main directory. > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > >Click here agt_gems@a... to contact AGT. > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > >HRISIKESH LTD. > > > > >Hrisikesh Plaza, C3 Building Joe Louis Theatre, > > > > >Lumpini Night Bazaar, 1875 Rama 4 Road, > > > > >Lumpini, Pathumwan, Bangkok, Kingdom of Thailand > > > > >Tel: (66-2) 2521230 / Fax: (66-2) 241-2535 > > > > >E-mail: E-mail > > > > > > > >_______________ > > >_ > > > > >_ > > > > > > > > Law meets Electronics; Veena Weds Sanjay. > > > > > > > > Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match !! > > > > > > > > Visit http://rediff.com/matchmaker?1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om > > >Tat > > > > >Sat > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > > >Sat > > > > > > >: > > > > > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > > >_ > > > > >_ > > > > > > Law meets Electronics; Veena Weds Sanjay. > > > > > > Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match !! > > > > > > Visit http://rediff.com/matchmaker?1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > > >: > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > >: gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 Dear Janna, Very good explanation:...should be incorporated to enhance spiritual practice, not > substitute for it, For YS- Ju is Lord of sixth H /not only 9th/ for Cn Lagna, and even though I intimately agree that 9th H is much stronger, I do not see the reason for wearing the gem /Our Das, Roik, with his impressive Ju in 9th H -Yoga with Sa as well, never accepted to try YS- I would try coral, though, dear Roik, if I were you!!/ Ju will work well with prayers and faith, anyway, if not better! I do see good things related to 6th H /my 6th at least/ that can be well incorporated with 9th, but no need for YS. Before I learned from Sanjay's teachings that Moon is my AK, I was told to wear pearls by many good astrologers, /and I did- white, pink, yellow../- I tried and gave up quickly.. I am in fact grateful that Moon MD hasn't been worse /pradaba karma, fifth H; AK and lagnesh, Molotov Cocktail!!. /AK is 'good' for purification through suffering, so, strengthening AK with Pearl would increase pain and help one renounce the material world- which has never been my intention- so, better to avoid if small life happiness is what you need/ No harm in trying, though. As everything else, 'it depends...' on so many factors. Best wishes, Anna - "Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn <gjlist> Saturday, September 13, 2003 4:34 PM Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > Dear Anna and Amar: > > I humbly thank you both for your advice, and I will take it without > asking the reason, as it is generously offered. Actually, I do not > have the means to purchase either a blue or a yellow sapphire: it > is through mantra and meditation, reflection and contemplation, > discrimination and detachment that I propitiate the planets and > thus try to keep my auric body in balance. (Perhaps I should > clarify that it is my abyasa, or self-effort, to keep these ideals as a > daily conscious practice in my life in the hope that I may one day > integrate them more fully in my practical life). > > Yes. I have an appreciation for gemology, as I do astrology and > many of the sacred, occult sciences, but I also believe from my > personal experience that these are "points of departure" and > should be incorporated to enhance spiritual practice, not > substitute for it, so that one day these material "names and > forms" may be transcended. In the meantime, they are among > those who serve as "guides" and gurus to true illumination. > > Satyam Shivam Sundaram > > Janna > > http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ > > > > gjlist, "N.Anna" <anmar@a...> wrote: > > Dear Janna and Amar, > > > > I agree with you- no sapphire neither Blue nor yellow- let Ju MD > do it it's > > own way! > > > > Regards, > > Anna > > - > > "fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...> > > <gjlist> > > Saturday, September 13, 2003 3:33 PM > > Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > > > > > > > Dear Janna, > > > > > > Thank you for the clarification. You are truly engaged in > spiritual > > > activities. Materially, you may experience difficulty. However, > you are > > > able and well versed to transend in to spiritual activities. You > are > > like > > > a lotus flower never touched by water, thus, never let material > nature > > > effects your spiritual growth. That is why lord saturn is > transitting in > > > your natal 12h of detechment as well as guru in the 2nd. > house of your > > natal > > > chart indicating service to the guru and helping to the needy > people. > > > > > > My little suggestion to you is that please do not wear any > yellow or blue > > > saphire at all. You must propitiate the guru and shani > (including Ra/Ke.) > > > which ever way you are able to do. > > > > > > May Guru enlighten your mind and remove all the obstacles > on your way. > > > Hari Bol. > > > > > > Best wishes.............................Amar Puri. > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn> > > > >gjlist > > > >gjlist > > > >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > > > >Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:50:45 -0000 > > > > > > > >Oh dear, oh dear, Amar Puri, it is not my writing but a very > > > >learned astrologer. I got the information from his web site > > > >((www.agt-gems.com/book/contents.html) because Vivek > > > >requested more information on planetary gemology. > > > > > > > >In fact, I am Cancer lagna (with Cancer Sun 1 degree > combust > > > >Sani in H-1) and TR Sani is in H-12. Actually, I am > wondering > > > >from other Cancer lagnas (and others on the list) about the > effect > > > >of 12th house TR Saturn in Gemini for the next couple of > years? > > > > > > > >But thank you for wishing me to be the best in health and > spirit, > > > >since Rahu dasa ends in 21 days, followed by Jupiter dasa! > I am > > > >hoping Jupiter dasa will counteract TR Sani in H-12. (And > also, > > > >we are waiting to see if Hurricane Isabel will strike the US > > > >southeast coast in the next few days). > > > > > > > >RE: "I request you to please confirm if you did wear the said > > > >blue saphire gem > > > > > in gold in middle finger of your left hand on an > auspicous > > > >time?" > > > > > > > >I am thinking that a yellow sapphire or yellow topaz would > be > > > >better for me than a blue sapphire (if Brhaspataye brings > any > > > >abundance my way)? > > > > > > > > > > > > >Satyam Shivam Sundaram > > > > > > > >Janna > > > > > > > >http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > >gjlist, "fas fas" > > > ><foreignersassistance@h...> wrote: > > > > > Hello Dear Janna, > > > > > > > > > > Hari Bol ! > > > > > > > > > > Hope you are in the best of your health and spirit. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for sharing such a elabrated knowledge and > your > > > >personal > > > > > experience on wearing gems as per article below. It > appears > > > >from your > > > > > article that you are a leo ascendent and saturn is placed > in 12h > > > >of Cancer > > > > > in your native chart. > > > > > > > > > > I request you to please confirm if you did wear the said > blue > > > >saphire gem > > > > > in gold in middle finger of your left hand on an > auspicous > > > >time? > > > > > > > > > > Thank you again for your kind co-operation. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes...........................Amar Puri. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn> > > > > > >gjlist > > > > > >gjlist > > > > > >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > > > > > >Fri, 12 Sep 2003 22:06:35 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Vivek: Planetary Gemology: > > > > > >(www.agt-gems.com/book/contents.html): Here is some > > > >good > > > > > >background information. > > > > > > > > > > > >Blessings, > > > > > > > > > > > >Janna > > > > > >Satyam Shivam Sundaram > > > > > > > > > > > >http://seven_directions.tripod.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding gemstones -- How exactly do they > work? -- > > > >From > > > > > >what > > > > > > > >I > > > > > > > > > have heard,they make changes in one's aura. > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >1. First look to the lagna or rising sign and then check > the lord > > > >of > > > > > >the rising sign to see if it is in an auspicious condition in > the > > > >rasi > > > > > >and navamsa charts. If this is the case then we > > > >wholeheartedly > > > > > >prescribe the gemstone ruled by the lagna's lord. > Example: If > > > > > >one has Leo rising we look to the position of the Sun > (Lord of > > > > > >Leo) in the chart. If the Sun is posited in an auspicious > sign, > > > >e.g., > > > > > >sign of exaltation, own sign, trine, or at least a friendly > sign, it > > > >will > > > > > >act in a beneficial way. If any of these are the case then > we > > > >may > > > > > >recommended ruby or another "Sun jewel" as one's first > gem > > > > > >choice. > > > > > > > > > > > >A list of the primary rising sign gems is given as follows: > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > >RISING SIGN (Lagna) RULING PLANET GEMSTONE > > > > > >Aries Mars Red Coral > > > > > >Taurus Venus Diamond > > > > > >Gemini Mercury Emerald > > > > > >Cancer Moon Pearl > > > > > >Leo Sun Ruby > > > > > >Virgo Mercury Emerald > > > > > >Libra Venus Diamond > > > > > >Scorpio Mars Coral > > > > > >Sagittarius Jupiter Yellow Sapphire > > > > > >Capricorn Saturn Blue Sapphire > > > > > >Aquarius Saturn Blue Sapphire > > > > > >Pisces Jupiter Yellow Sapphire > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > >2. We next check the position of the planet ruling one's > > > > > >mahadasha or major planetary period. If this planet is > > > > > >well-placed in both the rasi as well as the navamsa > charts > > > >then > > > > > >we prescribe that planet's gemstone(s) for use during > the > > > > > >duration of the mahadasha period. Example: If one is in > or > > > > > >entering a Jupiter mahadasha and if Jupiter is posited > in an > > > > > >auspicious sign and/or house position, then we > recommend > > > > > >yellow sapphire or another natural yellow gemstone. > > > > > > > > > > > >3. Next we look to one's birth sign or Moon rasi , i.e., the > sign > > > >in > > > > > >which the Moon is posited at the time of one's birth. In > > > >sidereal > > > > > >astrology the Moon's sign position is considered very > > > >important. > > > > > >Example: If one's Moon sign is Leo, a sign ruled by the > Sun, > > > >then > > > > > >we must look to the sign and house position of the Sun > in the > > > > > >horoscope. If the Sun is located in an auspicious > position in > > > >both > > > > > >the rasi chart and the navamsa chart then we can > > > >recommend a > > > > > >ruby or other red Sun jewel as one's "birth stone." > > > > > > > > > > > >The list of these Vedic "birthstones" as shown in > Chapter II is > > > > > >repeated again here for easy reference: > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > >BIRTHSTONE > > > > > > > > > > > >RULING PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > >MOON SIGN > > > > > > > > > > > >Ruby Sun Leo > > > > > >Pearl Moon Cancer > > > > > >Coral Mars Aries/Scorpio > > > > > >Emerald Mercury Gemini/Virgo > > > > > >Yellow Sapphire Jupiter Sagittarius/Pisces > > > > > >Diamond Venus Taurus/Libra > > > > > >Blue Sapphire Saturn Capricorn/Aquarius > > > > > >Hessonite Rahu N/A > > > > > >Cat's eye Ketu N/A > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > >4. We then check the janma-naksatra or the > constellation in > > > > > >which the Moon is posited at birth. Each of these 27 > birth > > > >stars is > > > > > >ruled by one of the nine planets recognized in sidereal > > > >astrology. > > > > > >Example: If one's birth constellation is "punarvasu" (the > 7th > > > > > >constellation), which is ruled by Jupiter, then we look to > the > > > > > >position of Jupiter in the horoscope. If Jupiter is located > in an > > > > > >auspicious sign and/or house position in both the rasi > chart > > > >and > > > > > >the navamsa chart, then we can recommend yellow > sapphire > > > >or > > > > > >another yellow "Jupiter" jewel. > > > > > > > > > > > >Following is a list of the 27 constellations, their ruling > planet > > > >and > > > > > >corresponding gemstone: > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > >BIRTH STAR RULED BY GEM > > > > > >ASWINI KETU CAT'S EYE > > > > > >BHARANI VENUS DIAMOND > > > > > >KARTIKAI SUN RUBY > > > > > >ROHINI MOON PEARL > > > > > >MRIGASIRA MARS CORAL > > > > > >ADRA RAHU HESSONITE > > > > > >PUNARVASU JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > > > > >PUSHYAM SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > > > > >ASLESHA MERCURY EMERALD > > > > > >MAGHAM KETU CAT'S EYE > > > > > >POORVA-PHALGUNI VENUS DIAMOND > > > > > >UTTAR-PHALGUNI SUN RUBY > > > > > >HASTAM MOON PEARL > > > > > >CHITRA MARS CORAL > > > > > >SWATI RAHU HESSONITE > > > > > >VISHAKAM JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > > > > >ANURADHA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > > > > >JUSTHA MERCURY EMERALD > > > > > >MOOLAM KETU CAT'S EYE > > > > > >POORVASHADA VENUS DIAMOND > > > > > >UTTARSHADA SUN RUBY > > > > > >SRAVANA MOON PEARL > > > > > >DHANISTHA MARS CORAL > > > > > >POORVABADRAPADA JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > > > > >UTTARBHADRAPADA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > > > > >REVATHI MERCURY EMERALD > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > >5. Next we examine all the nine planets in the rasi chart > to > > > >see if > > > > > >any are exalted. Planets which are in their sign of > maximum > > > > > >strength (exaltation) give positive and beneficial results, > and > > > >their > > > > > >gemstone(s) may be used with advantage. > > > > > > > > > > > >6. Another consideration is sign ownership . A planet > which is > > > > > >located in it's own sign will give beneficial results, and > that > > > > > >planet's gem can also be used to advantage. > > > > > > > > > > > >7. A further consideration is any planet which is in it's > sign of > > > > > >mulatrikona or trine. A Planet in mulatrikona gives > beneficial > > > > > >results similar to an exalted planet, and their gem(s) > may be > > > > > >used to advantage. > > > > > > > > > > > >8. A planet which is located in a friendly sign will also > give > > > > > >beneficial results, and it's gemstone may be used to > > > >advantage. > > > > > > > > > > > >9. Our final consideration is preference based on the > > > > > >characteristic "planetary influence." Example: If a person > > > >wishes > > > > > >to use a Sun jewel like ruby or red spinel to increase > their > > > >name > > > > > >and fame, then we will recommend that stone provided > the > > > > > >person's Sun is not located in an unfriendly or > inauspicious > > > >sign > > > > > >and/or house position in their sidereal horoscope. > > > > > > > > > > > >NOTE: It is our practiced and well-considered opinion > that > > > >fine, > > > > > >natural gemstones do indeed "strengthen" or magnify > the > > > > > >influence of their associated planets. Therefore, lucky > planets > > > >= > > > > > >lucky gems. If a person intends to wear their lucky > gemstone > > > > > >then they should only use gems which are related to > planets > > > >that > > > > > >are considered to be "lucky" or posited in an auspicious > rasi > > > > > >(zodiac sign) and/or bhava (house) in their sidereal birth > > > >chart. > > > > > >Gemstones do not alter or change the angle, position or > > > > > >condition in which planets are placed in one's > horoscope. > > > > > >Methods for propitiating or reducing the harmful effects > of evil > > > >or > > > > > >malevolently placed planets in one's birth chart include > the > > > > > >chanting of planetary mantras, prescribed sacrifices > and > > > >charity. > > > > > >These may be performed along with the use of > associated > > > > > >planetary gemstones to help "magnify" the prayer. A > person > > > >who > > > > > >is unwilling to perform these meritorious acts should > not use > > > > > >gems for unlucky planets. > > > > > > > > > > > >IMPORTANT: Which ever planetary gemstone(s) you > choose > > > > > >must be free of visible flaws in order to properly transmit > > > > > >beneficial astral energy. Even though there is precious > little > > > > > >direct information on the use of planetary gemstones in > the > > > > > >Vedic texts, we do have the following quote from the > ancient > > > > > >Agni-puranam, (Chapter 246, Verses 7 & 8): > > > > > >"A gem free from all impurities > > > > > >and radiating its characteristic internal luster > > > > > >should be looked upon as an "escort" of good luck. > > > > > >A gem which is cracked, fissured, devoid of luster, > > > > > >or appearing rough or sandy, > > > > > >should not be used at all." > > > > > > > > > > > >With all these methods it is necessary to first cast a > person's > > > > > >sidereal horoscope or janma-patrika (birth chart). This > > > >requires > > > > > >very expert calculations based on one's birth date, time > and > > > > > >place. If one doesn't know their birth "time" it is still > possible > > > >to > > > > > >cast the horoscope accurately enough to see the > planetary > > > >"sign" > > > > > >positions (although this is much less precise in other > areas). > > > > > >After casting the horoscope, look to see if any of the > planets > > > >are > > > > > >in "auspicious" rasi positions. All of these "auspicious" > sign > > > > > >positions give good results. According to B.V. Raman, > India's > > > > > >leading astrologer, "A planet in it's own sign is rendered > > > > > >powerful to do good. A planet in it's sign of exaltation is > > > >rendered > > > > > >even more powerful to do good than in it's own sign. A > planet > > > >in > > > > > >it's sign of mulatrikona is rendered powerful to do good > > > >similar > > > > > >to when in exaltation." Planets which are in enemy signs > or > > > > > >which are debilitated usually have harmful or > inauspicious > > > > > >influences. Professor Raman also states that planets > which > > > >are > > > > > >debilitated give results opposite of when in strong sign > > > > > >positions. In other words, "bad results." (NOTE: There > are > > > >certain > > > > > >astrological considerations which may "cancel" harmful > > > > > >planetary positions; but it is the opinion of most sidereal > > > > > >astrologers that "once a bad planet, always a bad > planet.") > > > > > > > > > > > >An example may be taken from one of my own > experiences > > > >with > > > > > >gem therapy. According to my Sidereal horoscope I have > > > >some > > > > > >exalted (strong) planets, some weak planets and some > > > >negative > > > > > >planets. Saturn in particular is already a krura-graha or > cruel > > > > > >planet and it's position in my horoscope is even worse. > Still, I > > > > > >was advised by some sidereal astrologers to use a > blue > > > > > >sapphire, the gem for Saturn, in order to "pacify" > Saturn's > > > >harmful > > > > > >influence on me. This brings up the question of how > gems > > > > > >should be chosen and what their effects will be. One > group > > > > > >opines that gems should be used to "pacify" harmful > planets; > > > > > >another group believes that gems should be used to > > > > > >"strengthen" weak planetary influences. While yet > another > > > >belief > > > > > >is in "strengthening" beneficial or auspicious planets. > Let me > > > > > >relate my own experience and tell what my final > conclusion is. > > > > > >Every Sidereal astrologer who has read my chart points > out > > > >that > > > > > >Saturn in Cancer in the 12th house is quite malefic and > is > > > > > >causing me many of the more long lasting problems in > my > > > >life. I > > > > > >was advised to wear a blue sapphire to "pacify" Saturn. > After a > > > > > >long search I found a 7 carat flawless, unburned, > "Brahmin" > > > > > >colored blue sapphire from Burma. I bought the gem, > > > > > >immediately had it set into a special gold ring, and on > > > >Saturday, > > > > > >two hours and forty minutes before sunset, I installed > the ring > > > > > >after reciting the appropriate mantras. > > > > > > > > > > > >Almost as soon as I started wearing this most > auspicious > > > >blue > > > > > >sapphire I began having ill fortune. I started getting > frequent > > > > > >headaches and my business started slowing down > along > > > >with > > > > > >my energy level. Almost everything I did was beset with > > > > > >obstacles. Finally, after using the stone for almost 1 > year, I > > > >took it > > > > > >off in frustration. Later I had the opportunity to show my > birth > > > >chart > > > > > >to Pandit Vidyadhar Shukla (the Chief Brahmin Priest of > > > > > >Thailand) who confirmed that Saturn was indeed a "bad > > > > > >influence" for me. He further suggested that as the blue > > > >sapphire > > > > > >had made matters worse this was a good case against > the > > > > > >theory that gems "pacify" harmful planets. He suggested > that I > > > > > >should wear a ruby to "strengthen" the Sun in order to > > > >counteract > > > > > >Saturn's harmful influence. Since following this advise I > have > > > > > >experienced much better effects on both my heath, > business > > > >and > > > > > >over-all outlook. > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > >*Since Rahu and Ketu are Aprakasha or "shadow > planets," > > > >they > > > > > >reflect the qualities of the lord of the sign they occupy. > > > >Example: If > > > > > >Rahu is located in Virgo, a sign ruled by Mercury, you > should > > > >look > > > > > >to the position of Mercury in the chart and predict similar > > > >results > > > > > >for Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > >We welcome any input from readers about their own > > > > > >experiences with gems and their astral powers. > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > >Ancient Astrological Gemstones & Talismans index, > Astral > > > > > >Gemstone Talismans main directory. > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > >Click here agt_gems@a... to contact AGT. > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > >HRISIKESH LTD. > > > > > >Hrisikesh Plaza, C3 Building Joe Louis Theatre, > > > > > >Lumpini Night Bazaar, 1875 Rama 4 Road, > > > > > >Lumpini, Pathumwan, Bangkok, Kingdom of Thailand > > > > > >Tel: (66-2) 2521230 / Fax: (66-2) 241-2535 > > > > > >E-mail: E-mail > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > > > >_ > > > > > >_ > > > > > > > > > Law meets Electronics; Veena Weds Sanjay. > > > > > > > > > Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting > match !! > > > > > > > > > Visit http://rediff.com/matchmaker?1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; > Om > > > >Tat > > > > > >Sat > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; > Om Tat > > > >Sat > > > > > > > >: > > > > > > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > > > >_ > > > > > >_ > > > > > > > Law meets Electronics; Veena Weds Sanjay. > > > > > > > Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match > !! > > > > > > > Visit http://rediff.com/matchmaker?1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om > Tat Sat > > > > > >: > > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > _ > > > >_______________ > > > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months > FREE* > > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > > > >: > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 Dear Amar, Thanks, I'm fine- You didn't mean that, it seems, sorry it seems I misunderstood what you wrote: " effects your spiritual growth. That is why lord Saturn is transiting in > > your natal 12h of detechment as well as guru in the 2nd. house of your > natal > > chart indicating service to the guru and helping to the needy people" Best wishes, Anna - "fas fas" <foreignersassistance <gjlist> Saturday, September 13, 2003 6:07 PM Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > Dear Anna, > > Hope you are in the best of your health and spirit. > > Would you please clarify this where do you read as; second H Ju Transit is > limited to service to Guru and needy? > > Best wishes.................................Amar Puri. > > > >"N.Anna" <anmar > >gjlist > ><gjlist> > >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > >Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:09:03 -0400 > > > >Dear Amar, > > > >I am just curios to hear the reason why you think second H Ju Transit is > >limitted to service to Guru and needy ? > >Thanks, > >Anna > > > >- > >"fas fas" <foreignersassistance > ><gjlist> > >Saturday, September 13, 2003 3:33 PM > >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > > > > > > > Dear Janna, > > > > > > Thank you for the clarification. You are truly engaged in spiritual > > > activities. Materially, you may experience difficulty. However, you > >are > > > able and well versed to transend in to spiritual activities. You are > >like > > > a lotus flower never touched by water, thus, never let material nature > > > effects your spiritual growth. That is why lord saturn is transitting > >in > > > your natal 12h of detechment as well as guru in the 2nd. house of your > >natal > > > chart indicating service to the guru and helping to the needy people. > > > > > > My little suggestion to you is that please do not wear any yellow or > >blue > > > saphire at all. You must propitiate the guru and shani (including > >Ra/Ke.) > > > which ever way you are able to do. > > > > > > May Guru enlighten your mind and remove all the obstacles on your way. > > > Hari Bol. > > > > > > Best wishes.............................Amar Puri. > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn > > > >gjlist > > > >gjlist > > > >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > > > >Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:50:45 -0000 > > > > > > > >Oh dear, oh dear, Amar Puri, it is not my writing but a very > > > >learned astrologer. I got the information from his web site > > > >((www.agt-gems.com/book/contents.html) because Vivek > > > >requested more information on planetary gemology. > > > > > > > >In fact, I am Cancer lagna (with Cancer Sun 1 degree combust > > > >Sani in H-1) and TR Sani is in H-12. Actually, I am wondering > > > >from other Cancer lagnas (and others on the list) about the effect > > > >of 12th house TR Saturn in Gemini for the next couple of years? > > > > > > > >But thank you for wishing me to be the best in health and spirit, > > > >since Rahu dasa ends in 21 days, followed by Jupiter dasa! I am > > > >hoping Jupiter dasa will counteract TR Sani in H-12. (And also, > > > >we are waiting to see if Hurricane Isabel will strike the US > > > >southeast coast in the next few days). > > > > > > > >RE: "I request you to please confirm if you did wear the said > > > >blue saphire gem > > > > > in gold in middle finger of your left hand on an auspicous > > > >time?" > > > > > > > >I am thinking that a yellow sapphire or yellow topaz would be > > > >better for me than a blue sapphire (if Brhaspataye brings any > > > >abundance my way)? > > > > > > > > > > > > >Satyam Shivam Sundaram > > > > > > > >Janna > > > > > > > >http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > >gjlist, "fas fas" > > > ><foreignersassistance@h...> wrote: > > > > > Hello Dear Janna, > > > > > > > > > > Hari Bol ! > > > > > > > > > > Hope you are in the best of your health and spirit. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for sharing such a elabrated knowledge and your > > > >personal > > > > > experience on wearing gems as per article below. It appears > > > >from your > > > > > article that you are a leo ascendent and saturn is placed in 12h > > > >of Cancer > > > > > in your native chart. > > > > > > > > > > I request you to please confirm if you did wear the said blue > > > >saphire gem > > > > > in gold in middle finger of your left hand on an auspicous > > > >time? > > > > > > > > > > Thank you again for your kind co-operation. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes...........................Amar Puri. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn> > > > > > >gjlist > > > > > >gjlist > > > > > >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > > > > > >Fri, 12 Sep 2003 22:06:35 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Vivek: Planetary Gemology: > > > > > >(www.agt-gems.com/book/contents.html): Here is some > > > >good > > > > > >background information. > > > > > > > > > > > >Blessings, > > > > > > > > > > > >Janna > > > > > >Satyam Shivam Sundaram > > > > > > > > > > > >http://seven_directions.tripod.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding gemstones -- How exactly do they work? -- > > > >From > > > > > >what > > > > > > > >I > > > > > > > > > have heard,they make changes in one's aura. > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >1. First look to the lagna or rising sign and then check the lord > > > >of > > > > > >the rising sign to see if it is in an auspicious condition in the > > > >rasi > > > > > >and navamsa charts. If this is the case then we > > > >wholeheartedly > > > > > >prescribe the gemstone ruled by the lagna's lord. Example: If > > > > > >one has Leo rising we look to the position of the Sun (Lord of > > > > > >Leo) in the chart. If the Sun is posited in an auspicious sign, > > > >e.g., > > > > > >sign of exaltation, own sign, trine, or at least a friendly sign, > >it > > > >will > > > > > >act in a beneficial way. If any of these are the case then we > > > >may > > > > > >recommended ruby or another "Sun jewel" as one's first gem > > > > > >choice. > > > > > > > > > > > >A list of the primary rising sign gems is given as follows: > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > >RISING SIGN (Lagna) RULING PLANET GEMSTONE > > > > > >Aries Mars Red Coral > > > > > >Taurus Venus Diamond > > > > > >Gemini Mercury Emerald > > > > > >Cancer Moon Pearl > > > > > >Leo Sun Ruby > > > > > >Virgo Mercury Emerald > > > > > >Libra Venus Diamond > > > > > >Scorpio Mars Coral > > > > > >Sagittarius Jupiter Yellow Sapphire > > > > > >Capricorn Saturn Blue Sapphire > > > > > >Aquarius Saturn Blue Sapphire > > > > > >Pisces Jupiter Yellow Sapphire > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > >2. We next check the position of the planet ruling one's > > > > > >mahadasha or major planetary period. If this planet is > > > > > >well-placed in both the rasi as well as the navamsa charts > > > >then > > > > > >we prescribe that planet's gemstone(s) for use during the > > > > > >duration of the mahadasha period. Example: If one is in or > > > > > >entering a Jupiter mahadasha and if Jupiter is posited in an > > > > > >auspicious sign and/or house position, then we recommend > > > > > >yellow sapphire or another natural yellow gemstone. > > > > > > > > > > > >3. Next we look to one's birth sign or Moon rasi , i.e., the sign > > > >in > > > > > >which the Moon is posited at the time of one's birth. In > > > >sidereal > > > > > >astrology the Moon's sign position is considered very > > > >important. > > > > > >Example: If one's Moon sign is Leo, a sign ruled by the Sun, > > > >then > > > > > >we must look to the sign and house position of the Sun in the > > > > > >horoscope. If the Sun is located in an auspicious position in > > > >both > > > > > >the rasi chart and the navamsa chart then we can > > > >recommend a > > > > > >ruby or other red Sun jewel as one's "birth stone." > > > > > > > > > > > >The list of these Vedic "birthstones" as shown in Chapter II is > > > > > >repeated again here for easy reference: > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > >BIRTHSTONE > > > > > > > > > > > >RULING PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > >MOON SIGN > > > > > > > > > > > >Ruby Sun Leo > > > > > >Pearl Moon Cancer > > > > > >Coral Mars Aries/Scorpio > > > > > >Emerald Mercury Gemini/Virgo > > > > > >Yellow Sapphire Jupiter Sagittarius/Pisces > > > > > >Diamond Venus Taurus/Libra > > > > > >Blue Sapphire Saturn Capricorn/Aquarius > > > > > >Hessonite Rahu N/A > > > > > >Cat's eye Ketu N/A > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > >4. We then check the janma-naksatra or the constellation in > > > > > >which the Moon is posited at birth. Each of these 27 birth > > > >stars is > > > > > >ruled by one of the nine planets recognized in sidereal > > > >astrology. > > > > > >Example: If one's birth constellation is "punarvasu" (the 7th > > > > > >constellation), which is ruled by Jupiter, then we look to the > > > > > >position of Jupiter in the horoscope. If Jupiter is located in an > > > > > >auspicious sign and/or house position in both the rasi chart > > > >and > > > > > >the navamsa chart, then we can recommend yellow sapphire > > > >or > > > > > >another yellow "Jupiter" jewel. > > > > > > > > > > > >Following is a list of the 27 constellations, their ruling planet > > > >and > > > > > >corresponding gemstone: > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > >BIRTH STAR RULED BY GEM > > > > > >ASWINI KETU CAT'S EYE > > > > > >BHARANI VENUS DIAMOND > > > > > >KARTIKAI SUN RUBY > > > > > >ROHINI MOON PEARL > > > > > >MRIGASIRA MARS CORAL > > > > > >ADRA RAHU HESSONITE > > > > > >PUNARVASU JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > > > > >PUSHYAM SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > > > > >ASLESHA MERCURY EMERALD > > > > > >MAGHAM KETU CAT'S EYE > > > > > >POORVA-PHALGUNI VENUS DIAMOND > > > > > >UTTAR-PHALGUNI SUN RUBY > > > > > >HASTAM MOON PEARL > > > > > >CHITRA MARS CORAL > > > > > >SWATI RAHU HESSONITE > > > > > >VISHAKAM JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > > > > >ANURADHA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > > > > >JUSTHA MERCURY EMERALD > > > > > >MOOLAM KETU CAT'S EYE > > > > > >POORVASHADA VENUS DIAMOND > > > > > >UTTARSHADA SUN RUBY > > > > > >SRAVANA MOON PEARL > > > > > >DHANISTHA MARS CORAL > > > > > >POORVABADRAPADA JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > > > > >UTTARBHADRAPADA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > > > > >REVATHI MERCURY EMERALD > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > >5. Next we examine all the nine planets in the rasi chart to > > > >see if > > > > > >any are exalted. Planets which are in their sign of maximum > > > > > >strength (exaltation) give positive and beneficial results, and > > > >their > > > > > >gemstone(s) may be used with advantage. > > > > > > > > > > > >6. Another consideration is sign ownership . A planet which is > > > > > >located in it's own sign will give beneficial results, and that > > > > > >planet's gem can also be used to advantage. > > > > > > > > > > > >7. A further consideration is any planet which is in it's sign of > > > > > >mulatrikona or trine. A Planet in mulatrikona gives beneficial > > > > > >results similar to an exalted planet, and their gem(s) may be > > > > > >used to advantage. > > > > > > > > > > > >8. A planet which is located in a friendly sign will also give > > > > > >beneficial results, and it's gemstone may be used to > > > >advantage. > > > > > > > > > > > >9. Our final consideration is preference based on the > > > > > >characteristic "planetary influence." Example: If a person > > > >wishes > > > > > >to use a Sun jewel like ruby or red spinel to increase their > > > >name > > > > > >and fame, then we will recommend that stone provided the > > > > > >person's Sun is not located in an unfriendly or inauspicious > > > >sign > > > > > >and/or house position in their sidereal horoscope. > > > > > > > > > > > >NOTE: It is our practiced and well-considered opinion that > > > >fine, > > > > > >natural gemstones do indeed "strengthen" or magnify the > > > > > >influence of their associated planets. Therefore, lucky planets > > > >= > > > > > >lucky gems. If a person intends to wear their lucky gemstone > > > > > >then they should only use gems which are related to planets > > > >that > > > > > >are considered to be "lucky" or posited in an auspicious rasi > > > > > >(zodiac sign) and/or bhava (house) in their sidereal birth > > > >chart. > > > > > >Gemstones do not alter or change the angle, position or > > > > > >condition in which planets are placed in one's horoscope. > > > > > >Methods for propitiating or reducing the harmful effects of evil > > > >or > > > > > >malevolently placed planets in one's birth chart include the > > > > > >chanting of planetary mantras, prescribed sacrifices and > > > >charity. > > > > > >These may be performed along with the use of associated > > > > > >planetary gemstones to help "magnify" the prayer. A person > > > >who > > > > > >is unwilling to perform these meritorious acts should not use > > > > > >gems for unlucky planets. > > > > > > > > > > > >IMPORTANT: Which ever planetary gemstone(s) you choose > > > > > >must be free of visible flaws in order to properly transmit > > > > > >beneficial astral energy. Even though there is precious little > > > > > >direct information on the use of planetary gemstones in the > > > > > >Vedic texts, we do have the following quote from the ancient > > > > > >Agni-puranam, (Chapter 246, Verses 7 & 8): > > > > > >"A gem free from all impurities > > > > > >and radiating its characteristic internal luster > > > > > >should be looked upon as an "escort" of good luck. > > > > > >A gem which is cracked, fissured, devoid of luster, > > > > > >or appearing rough or sandy, > > > > > >should not be used at all." > > > > > > > > > > > >With all these methods it is necessary to first cast a person's > > > > > >sidereal horoscope or janma-patrika (birth chart). This > > > >requires > > > > > >very expert calculations based on one's birth date, time and > > > > > >place. If one doesn't know their birth "time" it is still possible > > > >to > > > > > >cast the horoscope accurately enough to see the planetary > > > >"sign" > > > > > >positions (although this is much less precise in other areas). > > > > > >After casting the horoscope, look to see if any of the planets > > > >are > > > > > >in "auspicious" rasi positions. All of these "auspicious" sign > > > > > >positions give good results. According to B.V. Raman, India's > > > > > >leading astrologer, "A planet in it's own sign is rendered > > > > > >powerful to do good. A planet in it's sign of exaltation is > > > >rendered > > > > > >even more powerful to do good than in it's own sign. A planet > > > >in > > > > > >it's sign of mulatrikona is rendered powerful to do good > > > >similar > > > > > >to when in exaltation." Planets which are in enemy signs or > > > > > >which are debilitated usually have harmful or inauspicious > > > > > >influences. Professor Raman also states that planets which > > > >are > > > > > >debilitated give results opposite of when in strong sign > > > > > >positions. In other words, "bad results." (NOTE: There are > > > >certain > > > > > >astrological considerations which may "cancel" harmful > > > > > >planetary positions; but it is the opinion of most sidereal > > > > > >astrologers that "once a bad planet, always a bad planet.") > > > > > > > > > > > >An example may be taken from one of my own experiences > > > >with > > > > > >gem therapy. According to my Sidereal horoscope I have > > > >some > > > > > >exalted (strong) planets, some weak planets and some > > > >negative > > > > > >planets. Saturn in particular is already a krura-graha or cruel > > > > > >planet and it's position in my horoscope is even worse. Still, I > > > > > >was advised by some sidereal astrologers to use a blue > > > > > >sapphire, the gem for Saturn, in order to "pacify" Saturn's > > > >harmful > > > > > >influence on me. This brings up the question of how gems > > > > > >should be chosen and what their effects will be. One group > > > > > >opines that gems should be used to "pacify" harmful planets; > > > > > >another group believes that gems should be used to > > > > > >"strengthen" weak planetary influences. While yet another > > > >belief > > > > > >is in "strengthening" beneficial or auspicious planets. Let me > > > > > >relate my own experience and tell what my final conclusion is. > > > > > >Every Sidereal astrologer who has read my chart points out > > > >that > > > > > >Saturn in Cancer in the 12th house is quite malefic and is > > > > > >causing me many of the more long lasting problems in my > > > >life. I > > > > > >was advised to wear a blue sapphire to "pacify" Saturn. After a > > > > > >long search I found a 7 carat flawless, unburned, "Brahmin" > > > > > >colored blue sapphire from Burma. I bought the gem, > > > > > >immediately had it set into a special gold ring, and on > > > >Saturday, > > > > > >two hours and forty minutes before sunset, I installed the ring > > > > > >after reciting the appropriate mantras. > > > > > > > > > > > >Almost as soon as I started wearing this most auspicious > > > >blue > > > > > >sapphire I began having ill fortune. I started getting frequent > > > > > >headaches and my business started slowing down along > > > >with > > > > > >my energy level. Almost everything I did was beset with > > > > > >obstacles. Finally, after using the stone for almost 1 year, I > > > >took it > > > > > >off in frustration. Later I had the opportunity to show my birth > > > >chart > > > > > >to Pandit Vidyadhar Shukla (the Chief Brahmin Priest of > > > > > >Thailand) who confirmed that Saturn was indeed a "bad > > > > > >influence" for me. He further suggested that as the blue > > > >sapphire > > > > > >had made matters worse this was a good case against the > > > > > >theory that gems "pacify" harmful planets. He suggested that I > > > > > >should wear a ruby to "strengthen" the Sun in order to > > > >counteract > > > > > >Saturn's harmful influence. 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Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 Dear Anna: I am worried anew about your explanation: /AK is 'good' for purification through suffering, so, strengthening > AK with Pearl would increase pain and help one renounce the material world- > which has never been my intention- so, better to > avoid if small life happiness is what you need/ If Jupiter is AK (NT H-3, Cancer lagna) and I am entering Jupiter MD, does this mean more suffering? Is so, please explain the nature. I have just been through 18 years of suffering (and it wasn't my intention either although I finally accepted it with Rahu Dasa, Rahu/lunar nodal return and sadesati the last 9 years: Molatov cocktail in threes!) It has all been about "purification through suffering." Doesn't JD change that??? Janna Satyam Shivam Sundaram http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ gjlist, "N.Anna" <anmar@a...> wrote: > > > Dear Janna, > > Very good explanation:...should be incorporated to enhance spiritual > practice, not > > substitute for it, > > For YS- Ju is Lord of sixth H /not only 9th/ for Cn Lagna, and even though I > intimately agree that 9th H is much stronger, > I do not see the reason for wearing the gem /Our Das, Roik, with his > impressive Ju in 9th H -Yoga with Sa as well, never > accepted to try YS- I would try coral, though, dear Roik, if I were you!!/ > Ju will work well with prayers and faith, anyway, if not better! I do see > good things related to 6th H /my 6th at least/ that can > be well incorporated with 9th, but no need for YS. > > Before I learned from Sanjay's teachings that Moon is my AK, I was told to > wear pearls by many good astrologers, > /and I did- white, pink, yellow../- > I tried and gave up quickly.. > I am in fact grateful that Moon MD hasn't been worse /pradaba karma, fifth > H; > AK and lagnesh, Molotov Cocktail!!. > /AK is 'good' for purification through suffering, so, strengthening > AK with Pearl would increase pain and help one renounce the material world- > which has never been my intention- so, better to > avoid if small life happiness is what you need/ > > No harm in trying, though. > > As everything else, 'it depends...' on so many factors. > > Best wishes, > Anna > > > > > > - > "Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn> > <gjlist> > Saturday, September 13, 2003 4:34 PM > Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > > > > Dear Anna and Amar: > > > > I humbly thank you both for your advice, and I will take it without > > asking the reason, as it is generously offered. Actually, I do not > > have the means to purchase either a blue or a yellow sapphire: it > > is through mantra and meditation, reflection and contemplation, > > discrimination and detachment that I propitiate the planets and > > thus try to keep my auric body in balance. (Perhaps I should > > clarify that it is my abyasa, or self-effort, to keep these ideals as a > > daily conscious practice in my life in the hope that I may one day > > integrate them more fully in my practical life). > > > > Yes. I have an appreciation for gemology, as I do astrology and > > many of the sacred, occult sciences, but I also believe from my > > personal experience that these are "points of departure" and > > should be incorporated to enhance spiritual practice, not > > substitute for it, so that one day these material "names and > > forms" may be transcended. In the meantime, they are among > > those who serve as "guides" and gurus to true illumination. > > > > Satyam Shivam Sundaram > > > > Janna > > > > http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ > > > > > > > > gjlist, "N.Anna" <anmar@a...> wrote: > > > Dear Janna and Amar, > > > > > > I agree with you- no sapphire neither Blue nor yellow- let Ju MD > > do it it's > > > own way! > > > > > > Regards, > > > Anna > > > - > > > "fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...> > > > <gjlist> > > > Saturday, September 13, 2003 3:33 PM > > > Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > > > > > > > > > > Dear Janna, > > > > > > > > Thank you for the clarification. You are truly engaged in > > spiritual > > > > activities. Materially, you may experience difficulty. However, > > you are > > > > able and well versed to transend in to spiritual activities. You > > are > > > like > > > > a lotus flower never touched by water, thus, never let material > > nature > > > > effects your spiritual growth. That is why lord saturn is > > transitting in > > > > your natal 12h of detechment as well as guru in the 2nd. > > house of your > > > natal > > > > chart indicating service to the guru and helping to the needy > > people. > > > > > > > > My little suggestion to you is that please do not wear any > > yellow or blue > > > > saphire at all. You must propitiate the guru and shani > > (including Ra/Ke.) > > > > which ever way you are able to do. > > > > > > > > May Guru enlighten your mind and remove all the obstacles > > on your way. > > > > Hari Bol. > > > > > > > > Best wishes.............................Amar Puri. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn> > > > > >gjlist > > > > >gjlist > > > > >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > > > > >Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:50:45 -0000 > > > > > > > > > >Oh dear, oh dear, Amar Puri, it is not my writing but a very > > > > >learned astrologer. I got the information from his web site > > > > >((www.agt-gems.com/book/contents.html) because Vivek > > > > >requested more information on planetary gemology. > > > > > > > > > >In fact, I am Cancer lagna (with Cancer Sun 1 degree > > combust > > > > >Sani in H-1) and TR Sani is in H-12. Actually, I am > > wondering > > > > >from other Cancer lagnas (and others on the list) about the > > effect > > > > >of 12th house TR Saturn in Gemini for the next couple of > > years? > > > > > > > > > >But thank you for wishing me to be the best in health and > > spirit, > > > > >since Rahu dasa ends in 21 days, followed by Jupiter dasa! > > I am > > > > >hoping Jupiter dasa will counteract TR Sani in H-12. (And > > also, > > > > >we are waiting to see if Hurricane Isabel will strike the US > > > > >southeast coast in the next few days). > > > > > > > > > >RE: "I request you to please confirm if you did wear the said > > > > >blue saphire gem > > > > > > in gold in middle finger of your left hand on an > > auspicous > > > > >time?" > > > > > > > > > >I am thinking that a yellow sapphire or yellow topaz would > > be > > > > >better for me than a blue sapphire (if Brhaspataye brings > > any > > > > >abundance my way)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Satyam Shivam Sundaram > > > > > > > > > >Janna > > > > > > > > > >http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >gjlist, "fas fas" > > > > ><foreignersassistance@h...> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Dear Janna, > > > > > > > > > > > > Hari Bol ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope you are in the best of your health and spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for sharing such a elabrated knowledge and > > your > > > > >personal > > > > > > experience on wearing gems as per article below. It > > appears > > > > >from your > > > > > > article that you are a leo ascendent and saturn is placed > > in 12h > > > > >of Cancer > > > > > > in your native chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > I request you to please confirm if you did wear the said > > blue > > > > >saphire gem > > > > > > in gold in middle finger of your left hand on an > > auspicous > > > > >time? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you again for your kind co-operation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes...........................Amar Puri. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn> > > > > > > >gjlist > > > > > > >gjlist > > > > > > >Re: Sv: [GJ] Chakras/Planetary Gemology > > > > > > >Fri, 12 Sep 2003 22:06:35 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Vivek: Planetary Gemology: > > > > > > >(www.agt-gems.com/book/contents.html): Here is some > > > > >good > > > > > > >background information. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Blessings, > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Janna > > > > > > >Satyam Shivam Sundaram > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://seven_directions.tripod.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding gemstones -- How exactly do they > > work? -- > > > > >From > > > > > > >what > > > > > > > > >I > > > > > > > > > > have heard,they make changes in one's aura. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >1. First look to the lagna or rising sign and then check > > the lord > > > > >of > > > > > > >the rising sign to see if it is in an auspicious condition in > > the > > > > >rasi > > > > > > >and navamsa charts. If this is the case then we > > > > >wholeheartedly > > > > > > >prescribe the gemstone ruled by the lagna's lord. > > Example: If > > > > > > >one has Leo rising we look to the position of the Sun > > (Lord of > > > > > > >Leo) in the chart. If the Sun is posited in an auspicious > > sign, > > > > >e.g., > > > > > > >sign of exaltation, own sign, trine, or at least a friendly > > sign, it > > > > >will > > > > > > >act in a beneficial way. If any of these are the case then > > we > > > > >may > > > > > > >recommended ruby or another "Sun jewel" as one's first > > gem > > > > > > >choice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >A list of the primary rising sign gems is given as follows: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >RISING SIGN (Lagna) RULING PLANET GEMSTONE > > > > > > >Aries Mars Red Coral > > > > > > >Taurus Venus Diamond > > > > > > >Gemini Mercury Emerald > > > > > > >Cancer Moon Pearl > > > > > > >Leo Sun Ruby > > > > > > >Virgo Mercury Emerald > > > > > > >Libra Venus Diamond > > > > > > >Scorpio Mars Coral > > > > > > >Sagittarius Jupiter Yellow Sapphire > > > > > > >Capricorn Saturn Blue Sapphire > > > > > > >Aquarius Saturn Blue Sapphire > > > > > > >Pisces Jupiter Yellow Sapphire > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >2. We next check the position of the planet ruling one's > > > > > > >mahadasha or major planetary period. If this planet is > > > > > > >well-placed in both the rasi as well as the navamsa > > charts > > > > >then > > > > > > >we prescribe that planet's gemstone(s) for use during > > the > > > > > > >duration of the mahadasha period. Example: If one is in > > or > > > > > > >entering a Jupiter mahadasha and if Jupiter is posited > > in an > > > > > > >auspicious sign and/or house position, then we > > recommend > > > > > > >yellow sapphire or another natural yellow gemstone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >3. Next we look to one's birth sign or Moon rasi , i.e., the > > sign > > > > >in > > > > > > >which the Moon is posited at the time of one's birth. In > > > > >sidereal > > > > > > >astrology the Moon's sign position is considered very > > > > >important. > > > > > > >Example: If one's Moon sign is Leo, a sign ruled by the > > Sun, > > > > >then > > > > > > >we must look to the sign and house position of the Sun > > in the > > > > > > >horoscope. If the Sun is located in an auspicious > > position in > > > > >both > > > > > > >the rasi chart and the navamsa chart then we can > > > > >recommend a > > > > > > >ruby or other red Sun jewel as one's "birth stone." > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The list of these Vedic "birthstones" as shown in > > Chapter II is > > > > > > >repeated again here for easy reference: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >BIRTHSTONE > > > > > > > > > > > > > >RULING PLANET > > > > > > > > > > > > > >MOON SIGN > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Ruby Sun Leo > > > > > > >Pearl Moon Cancer > > > > > > >Coral Mars Aries/Scorpio > > > > > > >Emerald Mercury Gemini/Virgo > > > > > > >Yellow Sapphire Jupiter Sagittarius/Pisces > > > > > > >Diamond Venus Taurus/Libra > > > > > > >Blue Sapphire Saturn Capricorn/Aquarius > > > > > > >Hessonite Rahu N/A > > > > > > >Cat's eye Ketu N/A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >4. We then check the janma-naksatra or the > > constellation in > > > > > > >which the Moon is posited at birth. Each of these 27 > > birth > > > > >stars is > > > > > > >ruled by one of the nine planets recognized in sidereal > > > > >astrology. > > > > > > >Example: If one's birth constellation is "punarvasu" (the > > 7th > > > > > > >constellation), which is ruled by Jupiter, then we look to > > the > > > > > > >position of Jupiter in the horoscope. If Jupiter is located > > in an > > > > > > >auspicious sign and/or house position in both the rasi > > chart > > > > >and > > > > > > >the navamsa chart, then we can recommend yellow > > sapphire > > > > >or > > > > > > >another yellow "Jupiter" jewel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Following is a list of the 27 constellations, their ruling > > planet > > > > >and > > > > > > >corresponding gemstone: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >BIRTH STAR RULED BY GEM > > > > > > >ASWINI KETU CAT'S EYE > > > > > > >BHARANI VENUS DIAMOND > > > > > > >KARTIKAI SUN RUBY > > > > > > >ROHINI MOON PEARL > > > > > > >MRIGASIRA MARS CORAL > > > > > > >ADRA RAHU HESSONITE > > > > > > >PUNARVASU JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > > > > > >PUSHYAM SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > > > > > >ASLESHA MERCURY EMERALD > > > > > > >MAGHAM KETU CAT'S EYE > > > > > > >POORVA-PHALGUNI VENUS DIAMOND > > > > > > >UTTAR-PHALGUNI SUN RUBY > > > > > > >HASTAM MOON PEARL > > > > > > >CHITRA MARS CORAL > > > > > > >SWATI RAHU HESSONITE > > > > > > >VISHAKAM JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > > > > > >ANURADHA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > > > > > >JUSTHA MERCURY EMERALD > > > > > > >MOOLAM KETU CAT'S EYE > > > > > > >POORVASHADA VENUS DIAMOND > > > > > > >UTTARSHADA SUN RUBY > > > > > > >SRAVANA MOON PEARL > > > > > > >DHANISTHA MARS CORAL > > > > > > >POORVABADRAPADA JUPITER YELLOW-SAPPHIRE > > > > > > >UTTARBHADRAPADA SATURN BLUE-SAPPHIRE > > > > > > >REVATHI MERCURY EMERALD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >5. Next we examine all the nine planets in the rasi chart > > to > > > > >see if > > > > > > >any are exalted. Planets which are in their sign of > > maximum > > > > > > >strength (exaltation) give positive and beneficial results, > > and > > > > >their > > > > > > >gemstone(s) may be used with advantage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >6. Another consideration is sign ownership . A planet > > which is > > > > > > >located in it's own sign will give beneficial results, and > > that > > > > > > >planet's gem can also be used to advantage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >7. A further consideration is any planet which is in it's > > sign of > > > > > > >mulatrikona or trine. A Planet in mulatrikona gives > > beneficial > > > > > > >results similar to an exalted planet, and their gem(s) > > may be > > > > > > >used to advantage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >8. A planet which is located in a friendly sign will also > > give > > > > > > >beneficial results, and it's gemstone may be used to > > > > >advantage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >9. Our final consideration is preference based on the > > > > > > >characteristic "planetary influence." Example: If a person > > > > >wishes > > > > > > >to use a Sun jewel like ruby or red spinel to increase > > their > > > > >name > > > > > > >and fame, then we will recommend that stone provided > > the > > > > > > >person's Sun is not located in an unfriendly or > > inauspicious > > > > >sign > > > > > > >and/or house position in their sidereal horoscope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >NOTE: It is our practiced and well-considered opinion > > that > > > > >fine, > > > > > > >natural gemstones do indeed "strengthen" or magnify > > the > > > > > > >influence of their associated planets. Therefore, lucky > > planets > > > > >= > > > > > > >lucky gems. If a person intends to wear their lucky > > gemstone > > > > > > >then they should only use gems which are related to > > planets > > > > >that > > > > > > >are considered to be "lucky" or posited in an auspicious > > rasi > > > > > > >(zodiac sign) and/or bhava (house) in their sidereal birth > > > > >chart. > > > > > > >Gemstones do not alter or change the angle, position or > > > > > > >condition in which planets are placed in one's > > horoscope. > > > > > > >Methods for propitiating or reducing the harmful effects > > of evil > > > > >or > > > > > > >malevolently placed planets in one's birth chart include > > the > > > > > > >chanting of planetary mantras, prescribed sacrifices > > and > > > > >charity. > > > > > > >These may be performed along with the use of > > associated > > > > > > >planetary gemstones to help "magnify" the prayer. A > > person > > > > >who > > > > > > >is unwilling to perform these meritorious acts should > > not use > > > > > > >gems for unlucky planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >IMPORTANT: Which ever planetary gemstone(s) you > > choose > > > > > > >must be free of visible flaws in order to properly transmit > > > > > > >beneficial astral energy. Even though there is precious > > little > > > > > > >direct information on the use of planetary gemstones in > > the > > > > > > >Vedic texts, we do have the following quote from the > > ancient > > > > > > >Agni-puranam, (Chapter 246, Verses 7 & 8): > > > > > > >"A gem free from all impurities > > > > > > >and radiating its characteristic internal luster > > > > > > >should be looked upon as an "escort" of good luck. > > > > > > >A gem which is cracked, fissured, devoid of luster, > > > > > > >or appearing rough or sandy, > > > > > > >should not be used at all." > > > > > > > > > > > > > >With all these methods it is necessary to first cast a > > person's > > > > > > >sidereal horoscope or janma-patrika (birth chart). This > > > > >requires > > > > > > >very expert calculations based on one's birth date, time > > and > > > > > > >place. If one doesn't know their birth "time" it is still > > possible > > > > >to > > > > > > >cast the horoscope accurately enough to see the > > planetary > > > > >"sign" > > > > > > >positions (although this is much less precise in other > > areas). > > > > > > >After casting the horoscope, look to see if any of the > > planets > > > > >are > > > > > > >in "auspicious" rasi positions. All of these "auspicious" > > sign > > > > > > >positions give good results. According to B.V. Raman, > > India's > > > > > > >leading astrologer, "A planet in it's own sign is rendered > > > > > > >powerful to do good. A planet in it's sign of exaltation is > > > > >rendered > > > > > > >even more powerful to do good than in it's own sign. A > > planet > > > > >in > > > > > > >it's sign of mulatrikona is rendered powerful to do good > > > > >similar > > > > > > >to when in exaltation." Planets which are in enemy signs > > or > > > > > > >which are debilitated usually have harmful or > > inauspicious > > > > > > >influences. Professor Raman also states that planets > > which > > > > >are > > > > > > >debilitated give results opposite of when in strong sign > > > > > > >positions. In other words, "bad results." (NOTE: There > > are > > > > >certain > > > > > > >astrological considerations which may "cancel" harmful > > > > > > >planetary positions; but it is the opinion of most sidereal > > > > > > >astrologers that "once a bad planet, always a bad > > planet.") > > > > > > > > > > > > > >An example may be taken from one of my own > > experiences > > > > >with > > > > > > >gem therapy. According to my Sidereal horoscope I have > > > > >some > > > > > > >exalted (strong) planets, some weak planets and some > > > > >negative > > > > > > >planets. Saturn in particular is already a krura-graha or > > cruel > > > > > > >planet and it's position in my horoscope is even worse. > > Still, I > > > > > > >was advised by some sidereal astrologers to use a > > blue > > > > > > >sapphire, the gem for Saturn, in order to "pacify" > > Saturn's > > > > >harmful > > > > > > >influence on me. This brings up the question of how > > gems > > > > > > >should be chosen and what their effects will be. One > > group > > > > > > >opines that gems should be used to "pacify" harmful > > planets; > > > > > > >another group believes that gems should be used to > > > > > > >"strengthen" weak planetary influences. While yet > > another > > > > >belief > > > > > > >is in "strengthening" beneficial or auspicious planets. > > Let me > > > > > > >relate my own experience and tell what my final > > conclusion is. > > > > > > >Every Sidereal astrologer who has read my chart points > > out > > > > >that > > > > > > >Saturn in Cancer in the 12th house is quite malefic and > > is > > > > > > >causing me many of the more long lasting problems in > > my > > > > >life. I > > > > > > >was advised to wear a blue sapphire to "pacify" Saturn. > > After a > > > > > > >long search I found a 7 carat flawless, unburned, > > "Brahmin" > > > > > > >colored blue sapphire from Burma. I bought the gem, > > > > > > >immediately had it set into a special gold ring, and on > > > > >Saturday, > > > > > > >two hours and forty minutes before sunset, I installed > > the ring > > > > > > >after reciting the appropriate mantras. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Almost as soon as I started wearing this most > > auspicious > > > > >blue > > > > > > >sapphire I began having ill fortune. I started getting > > frequent > > > > > > >headaches and my business started slowing down > > along > > > > >with > > > > > > >my energy level. Almost everything I did was beset with > > > > > > >obstacles. Finally, after using the stone for almost 1 > > year, I > > > > >took it > > > > > > >off in frustration. Later I had the opportunity to show my > > birth > > > > >chart > > > > > > >to Pandit Vidyadhar Shukla (the Chief Brahmin Priest of > > > > > > >Thailand) who confirmed that Saturn was indeed a "bad > > > > > > >influence" for me. He further suggested that as the blue > > > > >sapphire > > > > > > >had made matters worse this was a good case against > > the > > > > > > >theory that gems "pacify" harmful planets. He suggested > > that I > > > > > > >should wear a ruby to "strengthen" the Sun in order to > > > > >counteract > > > > > > >Saturn's harmful influence. Since following this advise I > > have > > > > > > >experienced much better effects on both my heath, > > business > > > > >and > > > > > > >over-all outlook. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >*Since Rahu and Ketu are Aprakasha or "shadow > > planets," > > > > >they > > > > > > >reflect the qualities of the lord of the sign they occupy. > > > > >Example: If > > > > > > >Rahu is located in Virgo, a sign ruled by Mercury, you > > should > > > > >look > > > > > > >to the position of Mercury in the chart and predict similar > > > > >results > > > > > > >for Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >We welcome any input from readers about their own > > > > > > >experiences with gems and their astral powers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > >Ancient Astrological Gemstones & Talismans index, > > Astral > > > > > > >Gemstone Talismans main directory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > >Click here agt_gems@a... to contact AGT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >HRISIKESH LTD. > > > > > > >Hrisikesh Plaza, C3 Building Joe Louis Theatre, > > > > > > >Lumpini Night Bazaar, 1875 Rama 4 Road, > > > > > > >Lumpini, Pathumwan, Bangkok, Kingdom of Thailand > > > > > > >Tel: (66-2) 2521230 / Fax: (66-2) 241-2535 > > > > > > >E-mail: E-mail > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > > > > >_ > > > > > > >_ > > > > > > > > > > Law meets Electronics; Veena Weds Sanjay. > > > > > > > > > > Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting > > match !! > > > > > > > > > > Visit http://rediff.com/matchmaker?1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; > > Om > > > > >Tat > > > > > > >Sat > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; > > Om Tat > > > > >Sat > > > > > > > > >: > > > > > > > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > > > > >_ > > > > > > >_ > > > > > > > > Law meets Electronics; Veena Weds Sanjay. > > > > > > > > Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match > > !! > > > > > > > > Visit http://rediff.com/matchmaker?1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om > > Tat Sat > > > > > > >: > > > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > > _ > > > > >_______________ > > > > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months > > FREE* > > > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > > Sat > > > > >: > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > > > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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