Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 Hi, thanks for sharing all those different things Natabara, i'll check out those pages, thanks for typing them out. Take care, Angie gjlist, "natabara" <natabara@n...> wrote: > Dear Angie > > you > <<have you also studied the transits of planets triggering illnesses that have connections with a particular chakra?>> > > me > No, it is a very interesting study but the lack of time and my lack of medical qualifications have avoided all that. I have heard that the dwadasamsa chart indicates epidemic illnesses. > > you > <<have you done a similar research, maybe a bit more organsied, that would show these chakra connections more directly? take care, angie>> > > me > > No, But i know that the 4th chakra is connected to the thymus gland, and this gland is in charge of the flow of electrical energies in the body. According to Harish Johari "the nature of sense-percepcion is fundamentally electrical". (page 81, Leela). > > The ego (soul) needs the mind to move on in this material universe, and the mind needs the senses to perceive. Without that sense of percepction, the senses would not work and the mind would be like blind. Therefore, the function of the 4th chakra is primordial. > > To answer your email, i have been researching some notes and books and perhaps the following quotation may be interesting to you. It is from page 77 of the book Leela by Harish Johari. > > "The danger of getting caught by adharma is greatest in the fourt chakra, the fourth row of the game. In the first three chakras energy was devoted to the physical, celestial and astral planes. Now in the fourth chakra, the player attains a degree of balance and begins to understand the importance of apt religion. While seeking his own role in the game there is the possibility he may ignore the existing dharmas and attempt to start his own way, ignoring planetary laws and the laws of existence. > Here, faith is the key. > > Faith is the key of the fourth chakra: faith, devotion, bhakti. This faith can lead the player -if he acts in harmony with his true nature, sudharma- to the plan of austerity. But if it is not in tune with his innermost vibrations, it can draw him back to delusion. This is adharma. Acting on faith alone is liable to create irreligiosity. Faith alone, without a grounding in the laws of existence, is blind faith. And blind faith is the most frequent cause of energy-loss in this plane. Faith in accordance with the laws of existence is sudharma; but faith alone is adharma." > > > Best wishes > Natabara Das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2002 Report Share Posted February 15, 2002 om gurave namah------------------------Dear Natabara Prabhu, You friend seems to be very wise but has no filled you completely. The Dwadasamsa chart is also used for past life but ONLY in the conception chart as taught clearly by Jaimini. In fact the Venus position in Dwadasamsa in the conception chart shall give the physical body type that the native was having - animal or human and type of animal etc. these details are guarded secrets as they can cause a lot of hurt to people, but then we should remember that even Indra the King of Swarga incarnated as a pig and was most unwilling to give up that body!!! I agree fully about your - to be careful. that is why I ask for the source as i have my sources well documented and am very careful in this regard as mis-teaching can lead to a lot of sin. thank you so much for sharing - With best wishesSanjay RathWeb: http://sanjayrath.tripod.comServices: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htmJyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/ - natabara GJlist Friday, February 15, 2002 3:08 PM [GJ] Chakras Dear Sanjay Prabhu Hare Krishna <<Where did you read that about the dwadasamsa? I shall be grateful for the source. The dwadasamsa can indicate genetic traits and disorders as this is for inheritance. In any case it is also called the SURYA-AMSA.>> Many thanks for your attention to that information. I really should have said that although i have heard that the dwadasamsa shows epidemic illnesses, i could not verify the source of the information and i did not have the time either to study or research about it. I heard about it from a friend vedic astrologer while i was visiting Amsterdam in 1992. At that time i told him that i have never heard about it and that i whised more information like about the source or/and examples. He told me that he was going to do so but somehow i have lost contact with him. If destiny wills, next time i meet him i will request for that info. Sometimes it happens that a student misunderstands the teachings and therefore we get misinformation. Other times, the student wants to "discover" a new rule and "finds" that rule working. In this way, if we are not careful we may end with a concocted soup and the original rules just disappear. It is already happening and we have to be careful. <<The dwadasamsa can indicate genetic traits and disorders as this is for inheritance. In any case it is also called the SURYA-AMSA.>> Thank you for this information as well. So far i knew it to be for parents. By Surya-amsa means to me a lot. Now that you have mentioned inheritance, i remember that my friend also told me that the dwadasamsa refers as well to previous lives. He may well confounded parental inheritance gene wise with previous life. In any way i have not done much reaserch yet about the sodasavargas due to a lack of time but i know it to be promising and a future generation may come forward with relevant evidence about it. Best wishes Natabara Das Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Hi, Here is some information on chakras http://www.healer.ch/Chakras-e.html Regards, vivek _ Law meets Electronics; Veena Weds Sanjay. Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match !! Visit http://rediff.com/matchmaker?1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Dear Vivek: I have the chakras in PDF files (in the correct position). But your personal email address is incomplete. I tried sending them to you and could not, although I sent them to another member of the list (Anil) who received them successfully. Please let me know your correct email address, and I will send them to you. With regard to your questions about the subtle body, it is also known as the "astral body" that separates from the physical body at the time of death and "returns" in future embodiments. It is composed of "27" elementts: ignorance (avidya or the causal body), subtle desire (kama), karma (karmic impressions), 5 subtle elements (earth, air, fire, water, ether), 5 senses, 4 aspects of mind (intellect, ego, chitta, and manas); 5 pranas, 5 subtle bases for the organs = 27. Yes, if one had developed yogic vision or "siddhis," one could "read the mind," (in its four components) which would be the same as "reading the aura" (all of the astral body).Many masters have this ability and to a lesser extent, many psychics who are able to perceive the astral body or astral plane. Certainly jyotishis on this list can advise you on gemstones. It is a science and the wearing of gemstones to balance the auric body depends on purity of the stone, the weight, etc. and many factors according to the astrological/karmic makeup of the individual. It can be quite expensive to purchase these stones, and I would choose carefully in this area. Far better to begin with yogic practices of purification: meditation, asana, repetition of mantra, devotion to deity, etc. I am also Cancer lagna with Cancer Sun combust Sani in H-1 by one degree. I maintain a stable, consistent morning practice of meditation and incorporate mantra repetition. With Rahu Dasa ending in 26 days, having passed through the torturous Sade Sati in the latter part of it, I can advise you from my personal experience that without my spiritual practice of meditation, contemplation, and reflection, I could not have survived the past 18 years. Satyam Shivam Sundaram Janna http://seven_directions.tripod.com gjlist, "Vivek " <keviv90@r...> wrote: > Dear Janna, > Thanks for your response and sorry for my delayed reply. > I will be glad if you send me the file.I do not know how to rotate > it from vertical to horizontal. > You have written -- >When someone has the ability to see auras, > they are perceiving > >the subtle body, or the chakra system, which is the subtle body > >and often see colors corresponding to the chakras that may > >predominate according to the "state" that a person is in, > >emotional, evolutionary, etc. > ------------------------ The mind is often referred to as the > subtle body.So when one perceives the aura of another person is he > actually perceiving (or reading) the other person's mind? > OR to put it another way -- are MIND,SUBTLE BODY,AURA,CHAKRA > SYSTEM the same? > Regarding gemstones -- How exactly do they work? what is the > mechanism? > From what I have heard,gems have an aura of their own which mixes > with your aura and causes changes. > I know of course that destiny cannot be changed.So if one is to > get benefit from using gemstones,that is predestined too. > I am a cancer ascendant with mars combust in 9th house and moon > debilitated in 5th.Will I benefit greatly by wearing the gemstones > of these two planets? > Thank you, > vivek. > > > On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 Janna Lynn wrote : > > > >Dear Vivek: > > > >I have each of the chakras and their qualities in 4 PDF and jpg > >files. One of the problems is that I scanned them vertically > >and > >they should be horizontal. If when you open them you can > >rotate > >them, you can get the information. Since doesn't > >allow attachments anymore, please email me, and I will email > >them to you as attachments. I was also able to copy them into a > >Word 2001 file. I work on a Mac, so you would probably have to > >have compatible OS/MSW to read them in the Word format. > > > >Briefly each of the chakras has a color, element, a deity, a > >root > >letter, etc., i.e., 1st , (root) chakra, red, Earth element, > >presiding > >deity Ganesha; 2nd chakra (reproduction), white, water element, > >deity Brahman; 3rd chakra, (navel), yellow, fire element, deity > >Vishnu; 4th chakra, heart, color green, air element, presiding > >deity Ishan Rudra; 5th chakra (throat), blue, ether element, > >presiding deity, Sada Shiva; 6th chakra (between eyebrows), > >white, element Cosmic Mind, deity, Shiva; 7th chakra (crown of > >head), multicolored (thousand-petaled lotus), beyond all > >elements and colors, presiding deity Lord Shiva, the Absolute. > > > >When someone has the ability to see auras, they are perceiving > >the subtle body, or the chakra system, which is the subtle body > >and often see colors corresponding to the chakras that may > >predominate according to the "state" that a person is in, > >emotional, evolutionary, etc. > > > >The source for the information that I have in PDF/jpg files > >is: > > > >Yoga Secrets of Psychic Powers by Swami Jyotirmayananda > >6111 SW 74th Ave, Miami, FL 33143 (305/666-2006) www.yrf.org > > > >Janna > >-- Satyam Shivam Sundaram > > > >Please visit my web site: http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ > > > > > >gjlist, "Vivek " <keviv90@r...> wrote: > > > Hi list, > > > I have been trying to find information regarding CHAKRAS on > >the > > > net. > > > From what I understand so far,Chakras are energy centres in > >the > > > body or a kind of antenna to absorb cosmic energy.There are > >7 > > > major chakras and each corresponds to one planet (rahu/ketu > > > excluded). > > > Chakras are non physical and it is through them that the > >gross > > > material world is perceived.Rather,the gross is manifest due > >to > > > the subtle and the gross physical body is the end point of > >the > > > higher energies. > > > ------ Could someone please give detailed information > >regarding > > > the above? I wish to understand how things work at a subtle > > > level. > > > One more thing -- what exactly is aura? I have heard that > >some > > > people have the ability to perceive the aura of others.Does > >aura > > > have anything to do with chakras? > > > Regarding gemstones -- How exactly do they work? -- From > >what I > > > have heard,they make changes in one's aura. > > > Best wishes, > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ _ > >_ > > > Law meets Electronics; Veena Weds Sanjay. > > > Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match !! > > > Visit http://rediff.com/matchmaker?1 > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > >: > >gjlist- > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > _ > Law meets Electronics; Veena Weds Sanjay. > Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match !! > Visit http://rediff.com/matchmaker?1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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