Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 Dear Anna, If all the three conditions are met then only there will be Pitr-rin. Just by one combination alone your horoscope doesn't become a pitr- rin horoscope. Now let me take up your second question. Rahu is generally considered evil . Most of the time people forget that Rahu is also a karak of the total sum of our consciousness .Rahu is considered an inspiration behind most of the inventions , sudden flash of ideas etc. And may be it is for these reasons that Goddess Sarswati is considered the ishta devi of rahu . All occult knowledge is also controlled by rahu. Rahu in the 8th house : Rahu here is associated with dreams and premonitions , with regards to diseases it causes paralysis and cases of poisoning . It can cause quarrels , legal proceedings etc. Because of its aspect on the 2nd , the financial situation doesn't stay stable . If some one is troubled by rahu here then this is the remedy . Offer eight whole almonds at the temple or any religious place, and bring back four of them with you. Keep these blessed almond in your room. This upaya will have to be done for eight days continuously during the day time. If the affliction is serious in that case the remedy is to bury eight pieces of lead [ a metal] in a lonely place. It should be buried deep so that it doesn't get exposed in rain etc. Rahu in the 12th house : According to the Lal Kitab rahu here behaves like a smoke, a curtain of smoke on every thing. So much so a few people with rahu in the 12 th dream of smoke and of suffocating in it. Rahu here effects sensitive people more than any body else. It kills all imaginative plans and dreams thus hurting the sensitive person most. If it is with or aspected by saturn it effects the eyes. In this house only Rahu becomes a benefic in the company of Mars . If rahu causes affliction the remedy is to keep some sugar in your room ,in a small pouch of cloth . ymsgr:sendIM?bona_menteymsgr:sendIM?bona_mente"N.Anna" <anmar@a...> Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:15 pm Re: [GJ] Attn : Manoj Sharma - Pitr - Rin kundali Dear Upadhyay, I haven't seen better explanation of 'curses' from one you gave in your post, yet: "Since we enjoy the wealth, name and fame earned by our ancestors we are equally liable to suffer their misdeeds too"- both concept of karma and curse are made 'fair' and natural /we all tend to complain why we are experiencing bad things, not connecting them with good things we've received from our ancestors, as well. You made that so 'elegantly' clear in your statement above. As per what you wrote, I noticed that My Jup. is in Pi in 9th, and Mercury in 6th in Sag- seems like that is what you'd call 'curse of father'- if I understand you right? Would you please clarify this, why Mercury, etc. What kind of 'liability' is that, and what the suggested remedy would be? I'm sorry I do not anything about 'LK', except that it might be 'black'? What would Rahu in 12th or 8th H. mean? Thank you. Regards, Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 dear upadhyay ji, i have been reading your analysis over the last few days. really very enlightning specially with regards to pitr-rin. Is pitr-rin the same as pitr-dosh. You have explained rahus placement in the 8th house. In my chart rahu along with venus is in the eight house in capricorn. can you enlighten me as to what this would imply. thanks sandip - upadhyay_iitd <upadhyay_iitd <gjlist> 24 July 2003 12:50 PM [GJ] Attn: Anna - your querry regd rahu in 8th and 12th > Dear Anna, > If all the three conditions are met then only there will be Pitr-rin. > Just by one combination alone your horoscope doesn't become a pitr- > rin horoscope. > Now let me take up your second question. > > Rahu is generally considered evil . Most of the time > people forget that Rahu is also a karak of the total sum of our > consciousness .Rahu is considered an inspiration behind most of the > inventions , sudden flash of ideas etc. And may be it is for these > reasons that Goddess Sarswati is considered the ishta devi of rahu . > All occult knowledge is also controlled by rahu. > > Rahu in the 8th house : Rahu here is associated with dreams and > premonitions , with regards to diseases it causes paralysis and cases > of poisoning . It can cause quarrels , legal proceedings etc. > Because of its aspect on the 2nd , the financial situation doesn't > stay stable . If some one is troubled by rahu here then this is the > remedy . Offer eight whole almonds at the temple or any religious > place, and bring back four of them with you. Keep these blessed > almond in your room. This upaya will have to be done for eight days > continuously during the day time. If the affliction is serious in > that case the remedy is to bury eight pieces of lead [ a metal] in a > lonely place. It should be buried deep so that it doesn't get exposed > in rain etc. > > Rahu in the 12th house : According to the Lal Kitab rahu here > behaves like a smoke, a curtain of smoke on every thing. So much so a > few people with rahu in the 12 th dream of smoke and of suffocating > in it. Rahu here effects sensitive people more than any body else. It > kills all imaginative plans and dreams thus hurting the sensitive > person most. If it is with or aspected by saturn it effects the > eyes. In this house only Rahu becomes a benefic in the company of > Mars . If rahu causes affliction the remedy is to keep some sugar in > your room ,in a small pouch of cloth . > > > > ymsgr:sendIM?bona_menteymsgr:sendIM?bona_mente"N.Anna" > <anmar@a...> > Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:15 pm > Re: [GJ] Attn : Manoj Sharma - Pitr - Rin kundali > > > Dear Upadhyay, > > I haven't seen better explanation of 'curses' from one you gave in > your post, > yet: "Since we enjoy the wealth, name and fame earned by our > ancestors we are equally liable to suffer their misdeeds too"- both > concept of > karma and curse are made 'fair' and natural /we all tend to complain > why we are > experiencing bad things, not connecting them with good things we've > received > from our ancestors, as well. You made that so 'elegantly' clear in > your > statement above. > > As per what you wrote, I noticed that My Jup. is in Pi in 9th, and > Mercury in > 6th in Sag- seems like that is what you'd call 'curse of father'- if I > understand you right? Would you please clarify this, why Mercury, > etc. What > kind of 'liability' is that, and what the suggested remedy would be? > I'm sorry > I do not anything about 'LK', except that it might be 'black'? What > would Rahu > in 12th or 8th H. mean? > Thank you. > Regards, > Anna > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 dear sandip ji, Pitr-rin and pitr-dosh is the same thing where as pitr-shrap is a result of the wrath of our elders whom we might not have treated well. Venus and Rahu in the 8th will be very bad for marriage if it is done before the age of 25.The bad effects of this combination will depend largely on the planets in the 2nd house. The results could be very bad if it is not occupied at all. gjlist, "sandip" <sandip@s...> wrote: > dear upadhyay ji, > i have been reading your analysis over the last few days. really very > enlightning specially with regards to pitr-rin. Is pitr-rin the same as > pitr-dosh. You have explained rahus placement in the 8th house. In my chart > rahu along with venus is in the eight house in capricorn. can you enlighten > me as to what this would imply. > > thanks > > sandip > - > upadhyay_iitd <upadhyay_iitd> > <gjlist> > 24 July 2003 12:50 PM > [GJ] Attn: Anna - your querry regd rahu in 8th and 12th > > > > Dear Anna, > > If all the three conditions are met then only there will be Pitr- rin. > > Just by one combination alone your horoscope doesn't become a pitr- > > rin horoscope. > > Now let me take up your second question. > > > > Rahu is generally considered evil . Most of the time > > people forget that Rahu is also a karak of the total sum of our > > consciousness .Rahu is considered an inspiration behind most of the > > inventions , sudden flash of ideas etc. And may be it is for these > > reasons that Goddess Sarswati is considered the ishta devi of rahu . > > All occult knowledge is also controlled by rahu. > > > > Rahu in the 8th house : Rahu here is associated with dreams and > > premonitions , with regards to diseases it causes paralysis and cases > > of poisoning . It can cause quarrels , legal proceedings etc. > > Because of its aspect on the 2nd , the financial situation doesn't > > stay stable . If some one is troubled by rahu here then this is the > > remedy . Offer eight whole almonds at the temple or any religious > > place, and bring back four of them with you. Keep these blessed > > almond in your room. This upaya will have to be done for eight days > > continuously during the day time. If the affliction is serious in > > that case the remedy is to bury eight pieces of lead [ a metal] in a > > lonely place. It should be buried deep so that it doesn't get exposed > > in rain etc. > > > > Rahu in the 12th house : According to the Lal Kitab rahu here > > behaves like a smoke, a curtain of smoke on every thing. So much so a > > few people with rahu in the 12 th dream of smoke and of suffocating > > in it. Rahu here effects sensitive people more than any body else. It > > kills all imaginative plans and dreams thus hurting the sensitive > > person most. If it is with or aspected by saturn it effects the > > eyes. In this house only Rahu becomes a benefic in the company of > > Mars . If rahu causes affliction the remedy is to keep some sugar in > > your room ,in a small pouch of cloth . > > > > > > > > ymsgr:sendIM?bona_menteymsgr:sendIM?bona_mente"N.Anna" > > <anmar@a...> > > Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:15 pm > > Re: [GJ] Attn : Manoj Sharma - Pitr - Rin kundali > > > > > > Dear Upadhyay, > > > > I haven't seen better explanation of 'curses' from one you gave in > > your post, > > yet: "Since we enjoy the wealth, name and fame earned by our > > ancestors we are equally liable to suffer their misdeeds too"- both > > concept of > > karma and curse are made 'fair' and natural /we all tend to complain > > why we are > > experiencing bad things, not connecting them with good things we've > > received > > from our ancestors, as well. You made that so 'elegantly' clear in > > your > > statement above. > > > > As per what you wrote, I noticed that My Jup. is in Pi in 9th, and > > Mercury in > > 6th in Sag- seems like that is what you'd call 'curse of father'- if I > > understand you right? Would you please clarify this, why Mercury, > > etc. What > > kind of 'liability' is that, and what the suggested remedy would be? > > I'm sorry > > I do not anything about 'LK', except that it might be 'black'? What > > would Rahu > > in 12th or 8th H. mean? > > Thank you. > > Regards, > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 Dear Upadhyay, Thanks for your informative post- And since you presented this so clearly, without mystifications, this will certainly help better understanding of LK as well. I can confirm that most of what you wrote about Rahu in 8th holds true for me, where my Rahu in Aq is placed. /premonition, dreams-clairvoyance,- not litigation so far?, hopefully not paralysis- I got the point, if you wonder if I understand- just can't avoid impression if one side has been manifested already.. another will not, ha, ha It seems that Rahu 12th is even worse position. Thanks a lot, again, for your explanation. Best wishes, Anna - "upadhyay_iitd" <upadhyay_iitd <gjlist> Thursday, July 24, 2003 3:20 AM [GJ] Attn: Anna - your querry regd rahu in 8th and 12th > Dear Anna, > If all the three conditions are met then only there will be Pitr-rin. > Just by one combination alone your horoscope doesn't become a pitr- > rin horoscope. > Now let me take up your second question. > > Rahu is generally considered evil . Most of the time > people forget that Rahu is also a karak of the total sum of our > consciousness .Rahu is considered an inspiration behind most of the > inventions , sudden flash of ideas etc. And may be it is for these > reasons that Goddess Sarswati is considered the ishta devi of rahu . > All occult knowledge is also controlled by rahu. > > Rahu in the 8th house : Rahu here is associated with dreams and > premonitions , with regards to diseases it causes paralysis and cases > of poisoning . It can cause quarrels , legal proceedings etc. > Because of its aspect on the 2nd , the financial situation doesn't > stay stable . If some one is troubled by rahu here then this is the > remedy . Offer eight whole almonds at the temple or any religious > place, and bring back four of them with you. Keep these blessed > almond in your room. This upaya will have to be done for eight days > continuously during the day time. If the affliction is serious in > that case the remedy is to bury eight pieces of lead [ a metal] in a > lonely place. It should be buried deep so that it doesn't get exposed > in rain etc. > > Rahu in the 12th house : According to the Lal Kitab rahu here > behaves like a smoke, a curtain of smoke on every thing. So much so a > few people with rahu in the 12 th dream of smoke and of suffocating > in it. Rahu here effects sensitive people more than any body else. It > kills all imaginative plans and dreams thus hurting the sensitive > person most. If it is with or aspected by saturn it effects the > eyes. In this house only Rahu becomes a benefic in the company of > Mars . If rahu causes affliction the remedy is to keep some sugar in > your room ,in a small pouch of cloth . > > > > ymsgr:sendIM?bona_menteymsgr:sendIM?bona_mente"N.Anna" > <anmar@a...> > Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:15 pm > Re: [GJ] Attn : Manoj Sharma - Pitr - Rin kundali > > > Dear Upadhyay, > > I haven't seen better explanation of 'curses' from one you gave in > your post, > yet: "Since we enjoy the wealth, name and fame earned by our > ancestors we are equally liable to suffer their misdeeds too"- both > concept of > karma and curse are made 'fair' and natural /we all tend to complain > why we are > experiencing bad things, not connecting them with good things we've > received > from our ancestors, as well. You made that so 'elegantly' clear in > your > statement above. > > As per what you wrote, I noticed that My Jup. is in Pi in 9th, and > Mercury in > 6th in Sag- seems like that is what you'd call 'curse of father'- if I > understand you right? Would you please clarify this, why Mercury, > etc. What > kind of 'liability' is that, and what the suggested remedy would be? > I'm sorry > I do not anything about 'LK', except that it might be 'black'? What > would Rahu > in 12th or 8th H. mean? > Thank you. > Regards, > Anna > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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