Attn : Manoj Sharma - Pitr - Rin kundali

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Dear Manoj ji ,

 

Pitra-Rin

 

Since we enjoy the wealth, name and fame earned by our

ancestors we are equally liable to suffer their misdeeds too. The

dosh created as a result of the bad deeds of our ancestors is paitrik-

dosh or pitra-rin or pitra-shrap. Even in the legal system we are

held responsible for the debts of our forefathers similarly in

astrology too we have to pay their debts. Brahat parashar gives 14

kinds of pitra-shrap, Mantreshwar in phal deepika says that rahu in

the 5th creates pishach-badha, Gopal Ratnakar calls it sarp-shrap. In

the traditional vedic astrology Rahu is considered the main cause of

these dosh .

Lal Kitab in its 1952 edition discusses this problem in great

detail along with its remedies . I quote from Lal Kitab :

{ghar nauve ho koi grah baitha,

budh baitha jad saathi ho

rin pitri us ghar se hoga ,

asar grah sab nisphal ho ;

saathi grah jab jad koi kate ,

drishti magar wo chhupta ho

paanch ,barah, do, nau koi mande,

rin pitri ban jaata ho }

 

These lines describe three conditions of pitra-rin:

[ 1 ] ' ghar nauve ho koi grah baitha , budh baitha jad saathi

ho ' ---- If there is a grah in the 9th house and Mercury occupies

the rashi of that grah then it will be a pitr-rin kundali. For

example jupiter is in the 9th house and if Mercury is in either

sagittarius or pisces , or venus is in the 9th and mercury is in

taurus or libra .

 

[ 2 ] ' saathi grah jab jad koi kate , drishti magar wo chhuptaa

ho ' --- when the enemy planets occupy a rashi and is not aspected by

the rashi lord , the kundali will be of pitr-rin. For example if the

enemy planets of saturn like sun , moon or mars occupy either makar

or kumbha and if not aspected by saturn .

 

[ 3 ] 'paanch barah nau do koi mande , rin pitra ban jaata ho' --- if

there is an enemy planet of Jupiter like venus or mercury in the

5th , 12th , 9th and 2nd then also it will be a pitr-rin kundali .

 

 

The Lal kitab suggests remedies in detail for pitr-rin arising out of

such situations . It provides the detailed cause of these debts , the

grah involved and its remedies. I have not seen such a detail in any

other book on astrology.

 

With regards

upadhyay

 

 

In gjlist, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000>

wrote:

> Dear Mr. Upadhyay,

> Hope you have been good all this while.

>

> I have a small query--what is pitra dosha in the horoscope and what

is the remedy to dilute this dosha.

>

 

> Regards

> Manoj Sharma

[Guest guest]

Dear Upadhayay saheb,

Thanks for your prompt reply. So in Suresh Bhardwaj's case what kind of pitra

rin dosha it is. Please tell the remedy also. He has offering mustard oil daily

to the setting sun for getting employment. But so far he has not got any

success.

Thanks

 

upadhyay_iitd <upadhyay_iitd wrote:

 

Dear Manoj ji ,

 

Pitra-Rin

 

Since we enjoy the wealth, name and fame earned by our

ancestors we are equally liable to suffer their misdeeds too. The

dosh created as a result of the bad deeds of our ancestors is paitrik-

dosh or pitra-rin or pitra-shrap. Even in the legal system we are

held responsible for the debts of our forefathers similarly in

astrology too we have to pay their debts. Brahat parashar gives 14

kinds of pitra-shrap, Mantreshwar in phal deepika says that rahu in

the 5th creates pishach-badha, Gopal Ratnakar calls it sarp-shrap. In

the traditional vedic astrology Rahu is considered the main cause of

these dosh .

Lal Kitab in its 1952 edition discusses this problem in great

detail along with its remedies . I quote from Lal Kitab :

{ghar nauve ho koi grah baitha,

budh baitha jad saathi ho

rin pitri us ghar se hoga ,

asar grah sab nisphal ho ;

saathi grah jab jad koi kate ,

drishti magar wo chhupta ho

paanch ,barah, do, nau koi mande,

rin pitri ban jaata ho }

 

These lines describe three conditions of pitra-rin:

[ 1 ] ' ghar nauve ho koi grah baitha , budh baitha jad saathi

ho ' ---- If there is a grah in the 9th house and Mercury occupies

the rashi of that grah then it will be a pitr-rin kundali. For

example jupiter is in the 9th house and if Mercury is in either

sagittarius or pisces , or venus is in the 9th and mercury is in

taurus or libra .

 

[ 2 ] ' saathi grah jab jad koi kate , drishti magar wo chhuptaa

ho ' --- when the enemy planets occupy a rashi and is not aspected by

the rashi lord , the kundali will be of pitr-rin. For example if the

enemy planets of saturn like sun , moon or mars occupy either makar

or kumbha and if not aspected by saturn .

 

[ 3 ] 'paanch barah nau do koi mande , rin pitra ban jaata ho' --- if

there is an enemy planet of Jupiter like venus or mercury in the

5th , 12th , 9th and 2nd then also it will be a pitr-rin kundali .

 

 

The Lal kitab suggests remedies in detail for pitr-rin arising out of

such situations . It provides the detailed cause of these debts , the

grah involved and its remedies. I have not seen such a detail in any

other book on astrology.

 

With regards

upadhyay

 

 

In gjlist, Manoj Sharma

wrote:

> Dear Mr. Upadhyay,

> Hope you have been good all this while.

>

> I have a small query--what is pitra dosha in the horoscope and what

is the remedy to dilute this dosha.

>

 

> Regards

> Manoj Sharma

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Upadhyay,

 

I haven't seen better explanation of 'curses' from one you gave in your post,

yet: "Since we enjoy the wealth, name and fame earned by our

ancestors we are equally liable to suffer their misdeeds too"- both concept of

karma and curse are made 'fair' and natural /we all tend to complain why we are

experiencing bad things, not connecting them with good things we've received

from our ancestors, as well. You made that so 'elegantly' clear in your

statement above.

 

As per what you wrote, I noticed that My Jup. is in Pi in 9th, and Mercury in

6th in Sag- seems like that is what you'd call 'curse of father'- if I

understand you right? Would you please clarify this, why Mercury, etc. What kind

of 'liability' is that, and what the suggested remedy would be? I'm sorry I do

not anything about 'LK', except that it might be 'black'? What would Rahu in

12th or 8th H. mean?

Thank you.

Regards,

Anna

 

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"upadhyay_iitd" <upadhyay_iitd

<gjlist>

Wednesday, July 23, 2003 2:18 PM

[GJ] Attn : Manoj Sharma - Pitr - Rin kundali

 

 

>

> Dear Manoj ji ,

>

> Pitra-Rin

>

> Since we enjoy the wealth, name and fame earned by our

> ancestors we are equally liable to suffer their misdeeds too. The

> dosh created as a result of the bad deeds of our ancestors is paitrik-

> dosh or pitra-rin or pitra-shrap. Even in the legal system we are

> held responsible for the debts of our forefathers similarly in

> astrology too we have to pay their debts. Brahat parashar gives 14

> kinds of pitra-shrap, Mantreshwar in phal deepika says that rahu in

> the 5th creates pishach-badha, Gopal Ratnakar calls it sarp-shrap. In

> the traditional vedic astrology Rahu is considered the main cause of

> these dosh .

> Lal Kitab in its 1952 edition discusses this problem in great

> detail along with its remedies . I quote from Lal Kitab :

> {ghar nauve ho koi grah baitha,

> budh baitha jad saathi ho

> rin pitri us ghar se hoga ,

> asar grah sab nisphal ho ;

> saathi grah jab jad koi kate ,

> drishti magar wo chhupta ho

> paanch ,barah, do, nau koi mande,

> rin pitri ban jaata ho }

>

> These lines describe three conditions of pitra-rin:

> [ 1 ] ' ghar nauve ho koi grah baitha , budh baitha jad saathi

> ho ' ---- If there is a grah in the 9th house and Mercury occupies

> the rashi of that grah then it will be a pitr-rin kundali. For

> example jupiter is in the 9th house and if Mercury is in either

> sagittarius or pisces , or venus is in the 9th and mercury is in

> taurus or libra .

>

> [ 2 ] ' saathi grah jab jad koi kate , drishti magar wo chhuptaa

> ho ' --- when the enemy planets occupy a rashi and is not aspected by

> the rashi lord , the kundali will be of pitr-rin. For example if the

> enemy planets of saturn like sun , moon or mars occupy either makar

> or kumbha and if not aspected by saturn .

>

> [ 3 ] 'paanch barah nau do koi mande , rin pitra ban jaata ho' --- if

> there is an enemy planet of Jupiter like venus or mercury in the

> 5th , 12th , 9th and 2nd then also it will be a pitr-rin kundali .

>

>

> The Lal kitab suggests remedies in detail for pitr-rin arising out of

> such situations . It provides the detailed cause of these debts , the

> grah involved and its remedies. I have not seen such a detail in any

> other book on astrology.

>

> With regards

> upadhyay

>

>

> In gjlist, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000>

> wrote:

> > Dear Mr. Upadhyay,

> > Hope you have been good all this while.

> >

> > I have a small query--what is pitra dosha in the horoscope and what

> is the remedy to dilute this dosha.

> >

>

> > Regards

> > Manoj Sharma

>

>

>

>

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

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