Attn : Tapas - Mr Upadhyay

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Upadhyay,

 

Thanks a lot for spending your valuable time and willingness to help

me. I'm really glad. I have some further confusions in this regards.

 

(1) Can you please explain this 'Pitra-run' theory? I have received

similar kind of input(s) from other people (local people not from

this group) also. So I'm curious to know what is this.

 

(2) Question of faith is always debatable because what I believe is

if someone has faith then there must be reason(s) for that and

someone does not have faith then also there must be reason(s) for

that. Frankly speaking I'm neutral and I'm not against in believing

this. But I will do this with faith in God.

 

(3) What do you mean by term 'family members'? My elder brother's

wife and my wife should be considered in family? (specially in this

regard)

 

(4)Remedy one and two are easy for me, but for three it is difficult

for me, because I'm moving person so it is almost impossible for me

for doing this continously for 43 days. River is also 10km away from

my house. By heart I want to do this seriously but practically I'm

not confident whether I will be able to do it or not? As you are

saying this must not be break for 43 days so seems little difficult.

Is there any alternate 'upay' ?

 

(5) Drinking special water is for 43 days or permanently ?

 

(6) What is the meaning of 'Brass utensil'? Is this to be established

permanently or for this 'upay' period only?

 

 

Bye the way are you Gujarati ?

 

Thanks again for your kind help,

 

regards,

Tapas

 

 

gjlist, "upadhyay_iitd" <upadhyay_iitd>

wrote:

> Dear Tapas,

> I have gone through your horoscope. Two

planets

> sun and venus are in the neech rasi where as moon is

> neechabhilashi ie one more degree and it will be neech too.

> These apart , your horoscope suffers from

the '

> Pitra-rin ' ...the debts you have to pay for the wrong doings of

your

> forefathers . Your life must have been miserable from the 25th year

> onwards and unless remedies are performed it is likely to

continue

> till you are 37.

> There are three 'Pitra-rin ' planets ,

merc ,

> venus and rahu for which the upaya has to be done. Do these upaya

> only if you have faith in the traditional upaya . All upaya have

to

> be done during the day. No two upaya should be done at the same

time.

>

> [ a ] Take as many Nariyals [ full coconut

> with husk and dry the one which is used for pooja ] as there are

> family members . Suppose there are ten family members including

> parents , brothers and sisters etc then take ten nariyals and offer

[

> baha dena ] them to the flowing river . Upaya to be done only once

on

> any day.

>

> [ b ] Feed green fodder to as many cows as

the

> members in the family. Do it on as many Fridays as you can .

>

> [ c ] Take as many cawries [ small sea

shells ]

> as the members of the family. These cawries should be yellowish and

> not white. Burn them to ashes and the same day offer the ash to the

> flowing river. Collecting cawries, burning them to ashes and

throwing

> the ash into the river should be done on the same day and during

the

> day time.. ie after the sunrise and before the sunset.

>

> [ d ] After you have done these three upaya

> you should not drink bare water.. ie put a little sugar in the

water

> you drink just a grain or two of sugar will do. The easiest way to

do

> is to carry your own water bottle with your treated water. This

> upaya has to be done for 43 days.. and there should not be a break

in

> between . If you forget even for a day you will have to do it all

> over again for 43 days.

>

>

> Your Jupiter too has been affected by Rahu and to strengthen it

> establish Ganga-jal in a brass utensil in your own room.

>

> I hope and pray that this helps you

>

> With regards,

>

> upadhyay

[Guest guest]

gjlist, "nocomments_please"

<nocomments_please> wrote:

> Dear Mr. Upadhyay,

>

> Thanks a lot for spending your valuable time and willingness to

help

> me. I'm really glad. I have some further confusions in this regards.

>

> (1) Can you please explain this 'Pitra-run' theory? I have received

> similar kind of input(s) from other people (local people not from

> this group) also. So I'm curious to know what is this.

>

 

[ Pitra - rin means the debt or karz of the forefathers. One or

two family members may have to pay for the wrong doings of

our forefathers.Like in your case I read that some lady might

have died at the time of child birth due to the negligence

of the family members , or may be some lady was harassed

or tortured and she gave a shrap to the family .

Therefore the upaya has to be done for the planets that

indicate this Pitra-rin.]

 

 

 

> (2) Question of faith is always debatable because what I believe is

> if someone has faith then there must be reason(s) for that and

> someone does not have faith then also there must be reason(s) for

> that. Frankly speaking I'm neutral and I'm not against in believing

> this. But I will do this with faith in God.

>

> (3) What do you mean by term 'family members'? My elder brother's

> wife and my wife should be considered in family? (specially in this

> regard)

>

 

[ sure. family means your blood relations and their

spouses too.]

 

 

 

> (4)Remedy one and two are easy for me, but for three it is

difficult

> for me, because I'm moving person so it is almost impossible for me

> for doing this continously for 43 days. River is also 10km away

from

> my house. By heart I want to do this seriously but practically I'm

> not confident whether I will be able to do it or not? As you are

> saying this must not be break for 43 days so seems little

difficult.

> Is there any alternate 'upay' ?

>

 

[ collecting the yellowish cawries , burning them to ashes,

and then throwing that ash into a river on the same day

isn't all that difficult.I am afraid there is no

alternative upaya ]

 

 

 

> (5) Drinking special water is for 43 days or permanently ?

>

[ drinking water treated with a crystal or two of

sugar should be taken for 43 days only and not

permanently.But during those 43 days you should

not drink ordinary water. ]

 

 

> (6) What is the meaning of 'Brass utensil'? Is this to be

established

> permanently or for this 'upay' period only?

>

 

[ Brass means ' peetal '. you have to keep Ganga-jal

in a brass utensil permanently ]

 

 

 

 

>

> Bye the way are you Gujarati ?

>

[ No. I am from UP ]

 

 

> Thanks again for your kind help,

>

> regards,

> Tapas

>

>

> gjlist, "upadhyay_iitd" <upadhyay_iitd>

> wrote:

> > Dear Tapas,

> > I have gone through your horoscope. Two

> planets

> > sun and venus are in the neech rasi where as moon is

> > neechabhilashi ie one more degree and it will be neech too.

> > These apart , your horoscope suffers from

> the '

> > Pitra-rin ' ...the debts you have to pay for the wrong doings of

> your

> > forefathers . Your life must have been miserable from the 25th

year

> > onwards and unless remedies are performed it is likely to

> continue

> > till you are 37.

> > There are three 'Pitra-rin ' planets ,

> merc ,

> > venus and rahu for which the upaya has to be done. Do these upaya

> > only if you have faith in the traditional upaya . All upaya have

> to

> > be done during the day. No two upaya should be done at the same

> time.

> >

> > [ a ] Take as many Nariyals [ full coconut

> > with husk and dry the one which is used for pooja ] as there are

> > family members . Suppose there are ten family members including

> > parents , brothers and sisters etc then take ten nariyals and

offer

> [

> > baha dena ] them to the flowing river . Upaya to be done only

once

> on

> > any day.

> >

> > [ b ] Feed green fodder to as many cows as

> the

> > members in the family. Do it on as many Fridays as you can .

> >

> > [ c ] Take as many cawries [ small sea

> shells ]

> > as the members of the family. These cawries should be yellowish

and

> > not white. Burn them to ashes and the same day offer the ash to

the

> > flowing river. Collecting cawries, burning them to ashes and

> throwing

> > the ash into the river should be done on the same day and during

> the

> > day time.. ie after the sunrise and before the sunset.

> >

> > [ d ] After you have done these three

upaya

> > you should not drink bare water.. ie put a little sugar in the

> water

> > you drink just a grain or two of sugar will do. The easiest way

to

> do

> > is to carry your own water bottle with your treated water. This

> > upaya has to be done for 43 days.. and there should not be a

break

> in

> > between . If you forget even for a day you will have to do it all

> > over again for 43 days.

> >

> >

> > Your Jupiter too has been affected by Rahu and to strengthen it

> > establish Ganga-jal in a brass utensil in your own room.

> >

> > I hope and pray that this helps you

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > upadhyay