Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 Dear fas fas ji, [ 1 ] I was talking of the malefic effects of Moon in the 6th and not moon as a malefic per se. Apart from the moon I wanted to make sure whether Rahu and Ketu too are giving any malefic effects or not . [ 2 ] Mr Bhardwaj is worried about his job and therefore the 10th lord Saturn comes into the picture.We got to strengthen it and hence establishing the kumbh [ 3 ] Sun is the Karak of employment and hence has to be appeased by the 10th lord Saturn.Saturn has the karkatwa over two things in the liquid form ie mustard oil and liquor . Therefore by offering either of these two things to the Sun we are trying to appease Sun . This is an effort by a son to appease his father . Remember Saturn is a Surya Putra. The time to make such an offering I had suggested is evening and not morning because this time period comes under the rule of saturn. [ 4 ] Even if a planet is benefic , you may have to provide it strength either through pooja , mantra or other remedies based on the folk wisdom . Strengthening a benefic will do no harm with regards, upadhyay gjlist, "fas fas" <foreignersassistance@h...> wrote: > Hello Mr. Upadhyay, > > As a student of learning Jyotish, may I ask questions which are in > CAP.letters below your reply; > > > >"upadhyay_iitd" <upadhyay_iitd> > >gjlist > >gjlist > >Re: [GJ] Bhardwaj's Horoscope > >Mon, 23 Jun 2003 17:46:58 -0000 > > > >Dear Manoj ji, > > [ 1 ] I had asked all those questions to find out which of > >the planets are functioning as malefics.I am glad that except for moon > >all the planets are ok. > > WHY MOON IS FUNCTIONAL MALEFIC IN THE CHART OF BHARDWAJ'S HOROSCOPE ? > > > [ 2 ] establishing a Kumbha is to appease Saturn..and > >therefore he should do it on a Saturday after the sunset.Well he can > >think of any Ishta Dev while doing it. > > IT SEEMS CONTRADICTION HERE. AS YOU SAID ABOVE THAT THERE ARE NO MALEFIC > EXCEPT MOON, CORRECT. > > THEN WHY TO APPEASE SATURN WHICH IS BENEFIC ? > > > > [ 3 ]offering sharab to the sun is also for the saturn.The > >things that are under the Karkatwa of saturn are : iron and iron > >products , leather products , Liquor and Mustard oil. The last two > >being in the liquid form and they can be offered . If he were in > >India i would have suggested offering Mustard oil in a shani temple > >or a Bharav temple.the other alternative is liquor offered to Sun [ > >he is Saturn's father] > > WHY ESTABLISH KUMBHA AND THE SAME TIME OFFER SARAB TO LORD SUN FOR > APPEASING SATURN ? > > WHILE BOTH SUN AND SATURN ARE BENEFIC, WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF DOING THIS > REMEDIAL PROPITIATIONS? > > AWAITING YOUR FURTHER COMMENTS. > > BEST WISHES....................................................AMAR PURI. > > > > [ 4 ] Manoj ji how on earth can you say ' he will not > >survive the Ketu period'? he will not only survive that but much > >beyond too. > > > > [ 5 ] sure he will be 59 during the Ketu period and > >Jup sub in the Ketu is likely to be the time > > > > > >with regards, > > > >upadhyay > > > > > > > > > >In gjlist, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000> > >wrote: > > > Dear Upadhyay saheb, > > > > > > I got in touch with Bhardwaj and he has replied in negative for all > >your questions. > > > I have advised him to establish 'kumbha' in his house. Could you > >please tell the exact method as to how to establish kumbha like what > >should be the day, time and any matra has to be recited while > >establishing kumbha. > > > You are right about his wife. His wife has a fabulous career and > >her annual salary is 80 K (Canadian Dollars) per annum. So she is > >doing great by all means. He is worred about his own career. > > > > > > One thing I needed a small clarification is that during Saturn main > >period so far, Bhardwaj has quite ok career. I mean he was always > >known as a good journalist and was working with Times of India at a > >reasonably good position and good salary in India. What I mean to > >emphasis is that as his Saturn main peirod started, he was never > >unemployed even for a single day. But now he is unemployed for the > >last six months. Is this because, Saturn's main period is about to > >finish in a year or so for which the effect of Saturn has started > >waning? Kindly educate me on this. > > > > > > When you say that Mr. Bhardwaj would turn to spritualism, would it > >be when Ketu main period would start? I think, he won't survive Ketu > >main period. What do you say? > > > > > > Waiting for your reply. > > > > > > Yhanks > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > upadhyay_iitd <upadhyay_iitd> wrote: > > > Dear manoj ji, > > > > > > { 1 } No i donot think he needs wearing a pearl now,we don't need > > > strengthening the third house any way. > > > { 2 } presently he needs a job and thats the priority.For that we > > > have to provide strength to Saturn [ 10th lord ] and the Sun [the > > > Karak for any job] It was for this reason I had suggested that he > > > establishes a Kumbha [ an earthen pot filled with water ] in his > > > house ; and offering liquor [ sharab ] to the rising sun. > > > { 3 } Wearing a Diamond is going to cause problems and I had > >noticed > > > that. It was for this reason I had suggested that his wife should > > > bury any blue flower in a lonely place in the EVENING. this will > > > provide strength to Venus minus the 6th lordship effects > > > { 4 } I am glad that he is married because his wife will be like a > > > Kamdhenu for him.He must respect her and serve her. She will > >protect > > > him from all harm.So long as she is happy Mr Bhardwaj will prosper. > > > { 5 } Around the age of 59 Mr Bhardwaj will turn to spiritualism, > > > when all these worldly things are going to be meaningless any way > > > > > > ...Please confirm my other questions too from Mr Bhardwaj.. > > > > > > > > > Upadhyay, IIT Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. 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Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 I have asked some doubts in horoscope pls look into and reply me sridharanupadhyay_iitd <upadhyay_iitd > wrote: Dear fas fas ji,[ 1 ] I was talking of the malefic effects of Moon in the 6th and not moon as a malefic per se. Apart from the moon I wanted to make sure whether Rahu and Ketu too are giving any malefic effects or not .[ 2 ] Mr Bhardwaj is worried about his job and therefore the 10th lord Saturn comes into the picture.We got to strengthen it and hence establishing the kumbh[ 3 ] Sun is the Karak of employment and hence has to be appeased by the 10th lord Saturn.Saturn has the karkatwa over two things in the liquid form ie mustard oil and liquor . Therefore by offering either of these two things to the Sun we are trying to appease Sun . This is an effort by a son to appease his father . Remember Saturn is a Surya Putra. The time to make such an offering I had suggested is evening and not morning because this time period comes under the rule of saturn. [ 4 ] Even if a planet is benefic , you may have to provide it strength either through pooja , mantra or other remedies based on the folk wisdom . Strengthening a benefic will do no harm with regards,upadhyay--- In gjlist, "fas fas" wrote:> Hello Mr. Upadhyay,> > As a student of learning Jyotish, may I ask questions which are in > CAP.letters below your reply;> > > >"upadhyay_iitd" > >gjlist> >To: gjlist> >Re: [GJ] Bhardwaj's Horoscope> >Mon, 23 Jun 2003 17:46:58 -0000> >> >Dear Manoj ji,> > [ 1 ] I had asked all those questions to find out which of> >the planets are functioning as malefics.I am glad that except for moon> >all the planets are ok.> > WHY MOON IS FUNCTIONAL MALEFIC IN THE CHART OF BHARDWAJ'S HOROSCOPE ?> > > [ 2 ] establishing a Kumbha is to appease Saturn..and> >therefore he should do it on a Saturday after the sunset.Well he can> >think of any Ishta Dev while doing it.> > IT SEEMS CONTRADICTION HERE. AS YOU SAID ABOVE THAT THERE ARE NO MALEFIC > EXCEPT MOON, CORRECT.> > THEN WHY TO APPEASE SATURN WHICH IS BENEFIC ?> > > > [ 3 ]offering sharab to the sun is also for the saturn.The> >things that are under the Karkatwa of saturn are : iron and iron> >products , leather products , Liquor and Mustard oil. The last two> >being in the liquid form and they can be offered . If he were in> >India i would have suggested offering Mustard oil in a shani temple> >or a Bharav temple.the other alternative is liquor offered to Sun [> >he is Saturn's father]> > WHY ESTABLISH KUMBHA AND THE SAME TIME OFFER SARAB TO LORD SUN FOR > APPEASING SATURN ?> > WHILE BOTH SUN AND SATURN ARE BENEFIC, WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF DOING THIS > REMEDIAL PROPITIATIONS?> > AWAITING YOUR FURTHER COMMENTS.> > BEST WISHES....................................................AMAR PURI.> > > > [ 4 ] Manoj ji how on earth can you say ' he will not> >survive the Ketu period'? he will not only survive that but much> >beyond too.> >> > [ 5 ] sure he will be 59 during the Ketu period and> >Jup sub in the Ketu is likely to be the time> >> >> >with regards,> >> >upadhyay> >> >> >> >> >In gjlist, Manoj Sharma > >wrote:> > > Dear Upadhyay saheb,> > >> > > I got in touch with Bhardwaj and he has replied in negative for all> >your questions.> > > I have advised him to establish 'kumbha' in his house. Could you> >please tell the exact method as to how to establish kumbha like what> >should be the day, time and any matra has to be recited while> >establishing kumbha.> > > You are right about his wife. His wife has a fabulous career and> >her annual salary is 80 K (Canadian Dollars) per annum. So she is> >doing great by all means. He is worred about his own career.> > >> > > One thing I needed a small clarification is that during Saturn main> >period so far, Bhardwaj has quite ok career. I mean he was always> >known as a good journalist and was working with Times of India at a> >reasonably good position and good salary in India. What I mean to> >emphasis is that as his Saturn main peirod started, he was never> >unemployed even for a single day. But now he is unemployed for the> >last six months. Is this because, Saturn's main period is about to> >finish in a year or so for which the effect of Saturn has started> >waning? Kindly educate me on this.> > >> > > When you say that Mr. Bhardwaj would turn to spritualism, would it> >be when Ketu main period would start? I think, he won't survive Ketu> >main period. What do you say?> > >> > > Waiting for your reply.> > >> > > Yhanks> > > Manoj> > >> > >> > > upadhyay_iitd wrote:> > > Dear manoj ji,> > >> > > { 1 } No i donot think he needs wearing a pearl now,we don't need> > > strengthening the third house any way.> > > { 2 } presently he needs a job and thats the priority.For that we> > > have to provide strength to Saturn [ 10th lord ] and the Sun [the> > > Karak for any job] It was for this reason I had suggested that he> > > establishes a Kumbha [ an earthen pot filled with water ] in his> > > house ; and offering liquor [ sharab ] to the rising sun.> > > { 3 } Wearing a Diamond is going to cause problems and I had> >noticed> > > that. It was for this reason I had suggested that his wife should> > > bury any blue flower in a lonely place in the EVENING. this will> > > provide strength to Venus minus the 6th lordship effects> > > { 4 } I am glad that he is married because his wife will be like a> > > Kamdhenu for him.He must respect her and serve her. She will> >protect> > > him from all harm.So long as she is happy Mr Bhardwaj will prosper.> > > { 5 } Around the age of 59 Mr Bhardwaj will turn to spiritualism,> > > when all these worldly things are going to be meaningless any way> > >> > > ...Please confirm my other questions too from Mr Bhardwaj..> > >> > >> > > Upadhyay, IIT Delhi> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> > > : gjlist-> > > http://www.goravani.com> > >> > >> > > Your use of is subject to> >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.> >> >> >> >> >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> >: gjlist-> >http://www.goravani.com> >> >> >Your use of is subject to > >> >> > _______________> MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virusOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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