Guest guest Posted June 22, 2003 Report Share Posted June 22, 2003 Dear manoj ji, { 1 } No i donot think he needs wearing a pearl now,we don't need strengthening the third house any way. { 2 } presently he needs a job and thats the priority.For that we have to provide strength to Saturn [ 10th lord ] and the Sun [the Karak for any job] It was for this reason I had suggested that he establishes a Kumbha [ an earthen pot filled with water ] in his house ; and offering liquor [ sharab ] to the rising sun. { 3 } Wearing a Diamond is going to cause problems and I had noticed that. It was for this reason I had suggested that his wife should bury any blue flower in a lonely place in the EVENING. this will provide strength to Venus minus the 6th lordship effects { 4 } I am glad that he is married because his wife will be like a Kamdhenu for him.He must respect her and serve her. She will protect him from all harm.So long as she is happy Mr Bhardwaj will prosper. { 5 } Around the age of 59 Mr Bhardwaj will turn to spiritualism, when all these worldly things are going to be meaningless any way ....Please confirm my other questions too from Mr Bhardwaj.. Upadhyay, IIT Delhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2003 Report Share Posted June 22, 2003 in the chart of Suresh Bhardwaj Jupiter as Lord of 8th and 11th is exact on the degree in Mrityu Bhaga. (Lahiri ayanamsa) What is the significance oft this? The native ran Jupiter Mahadasha from 9/1969 to 9/1985. Because a planet in Mrityu Bhaga is likly to produce adverse reuslts, i`m interested to know about the outcome in this case, where Jupiter is placed in he 2th house. regards Volker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 thank you for the reply... Volker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 I got in touch with Bhardwaj and he has replied in negative for all your questions. I have advised him to establish 'kumbha' in his house. Could you please tell the exact method as to how to establish kumbha like what should be the day, time and any matra has to be recited while establishing kumbha. You are right about his wife. His wife has a fabulous career and her annual salary is 80 K (Canadian Dollars) per annum. So she is doing great by all means. He is worred about his own career. One thing I needed a small clarification is that during Saturn main period so far, Bhardwaj has quite ok career. I mean he was always known as a good journalist and was working with Times of India at a reasonably good position and good salary in India. What I mean to emphasis is that as his Saturn main peirod started, he was never unemployed even for a single day. But now he is unemployed for the last six months. Is this because, Saturn's main period is about to finish in a year or so for which the effect of Saturn has started waning? Kindly educate me on this. When you say that Mr. Bhardwaj would turn to spritualism, would it be when Ketu main period would start? I think, he won't survive Ketu main period. What do you say? Waiting for your reply. Yhanks Manoj upadhyay_iitd <upadhyay_iitd > wrote: Dear manoj ji,{ 1 } No i donot think he needs wearing a pearl now,we don't need strengthening the third house any way.{ 2 } presently he needs a job and thats the priority.For that we have to provide strength to Saturn [ 10th lord ] and the Sun [the Karak for any job] It was for this reason I had suggested that he establishes a Kumbha [ an earthen pot filled with water ] in his house ; and offering liquor [ sharab ] to the rising sun.{ 3 } Wearing a Diamond is going to cause problems and I had noticed that. It was for this reason I had suggested that his wife should bury any blue flower in a lonely place in the EVENING. this will provide strength to Venus minus the 6th lordship effects{ 4 } I am glad that he is married because his wife will be like a Kamdhenu for him.He must respect her and serve her. She will protect him from all harm.So long as she is happy Mr Bhardwaj will prosper.{ 5 } Around the age of 59 Mr Bhardwaj will turn to spiritualism, when all these worldly things are going to be meaningless any way...Please confirm my other questions too from Mr Bhardwaj..Upadhyay, IIT DelhiOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 I got in touch with Bhardwaj and he has told me that Jupiter Mahadasha can't be termed as good. His education did continue---I mean he never failed. But during his student life he faced lot of hardships in his studies. He had problems with his teachers and his peers. It was very difficult, he says. But since that period was spent under the wings of his parents, nothing irrepairable was done. In fact, if we see strictly from education point of view, then one thing is interesting is that he continued his education during Jupiter period in spite of all hardships. But his education was disrupted during Saturn--which is supposed to be lord of 10 th house and directly related to career. Had lot of difficulty in having his marriage solemnised. Eventually got married at the age of 35-36. I thing the aforesaid info would suffice. If you need any more in puts in this regard, please convey. Thanks Manojvokae (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Dear Upadhyay and List Members,in the chart of Suresh Bhardwaj Jupiter as Lord of8th and 11th is exact on the degree in Mrityu Bhaga.(Lahiri ayanamsa)What is the significance oft this? The native ran Jupiter Mahadasha from 9/1969 to 9/1985.Because a planet in Mrityu Bhaga is likly to produce adverse reuslts,i`m interested to know about the outcome in this case, where Jupiteris placed in he 2th house.regards VolkerOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Terms of Service. The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 Hello Manoj, I am a beginner student of astrology. So, I am not in a position to give any advise but to make few comments based on my knowledge and learning of jyotish I have had from the learned people in this group and others. So, I invite every one involved in this discussion group to correct me in my attempt of understanding and interpretation of Mr. Bhardwaj's horoscope which is as follows; 1. Inspite of higher studies, he has failed to get hold of his desired job (profession) whcih has caused frustration in his professional career. The reason being 8 and 11 lord (Jupiter) holds the key sitting in 2nd h of general wealth and family. It is further confirmed in the Navamsa chart. Lord Jupiter blessed him with a nice wife who is helping him. Also Jupiter rules the 10h in the Navamsa. In the natal chart weak Saturn the lord of 10h of profession occupies the 11h of gain in the house of functional malefic Jupiter afflicted by functional malefic Ke. becomes very help less and weak to protect and promote the significance of 10-11h. At present he is in the sub period of malefic Jup. in the main period of weak Saturn and Saturn is transiting in Gemini, in the 2nd.house occupied by malefic Ju. rendering the native loss of job and all sorts of obstacles. Even Lord Jupiter is transitting the 4th h is not helpful to the native because of the weak dispositor Moon in the 6h. All the efforts of the native in initiating any venture becomes fruitless. Solution is that he must appease the malefics ; Lord Jupiter, Veneus, Mars, Ra and Ke and strengthen the weak Lord Moon and Saturn immediately. Sun and Mer. are very well placed. Awaiting further comments. Best wishes..................Amar Puri. >Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 >gjlist >gjlist >Re: [GJ] Bhardwaj's Horoscope >Mon, 23 Jun 2003 06:15:56 -0700 (PDT) > >Hi. >I got in touch with Bhardwaj and he has told me that Jupiter Mahadasha >can't be termed as good. His education did continue---I mean he never >failed. But during his student life he faced lot of hardships in his >studies. He had problems with his teachers and his peers. It was very >difficult, he says. But since that period was spent under the wings of his >parents, nothing irrepairable was done. > >In fact, if we see strictly from education point of view, then one thing is >interesting is that he continued his education during Jupiter period in >spite of all hardships. But his education was disrupted during >Saturn--which is supposed to be lord of 10 th house and directly related to >career. > >Had lot of difficulty in having his marriage solemnised. Eventually got >married at the age of 35-36. > >I thing the aforesaid info would suffice. > >If you need any more in puts in this regard, please convey. > >Thanks >Manoj > >vokae wrote: >Dear Upadhyay and List Members, > >in the chart of Suresh Bhardwaj Jupiter as Lord of >8th and 11th is exact on the degree in Mrityu Bhaga. >(Lahiri ayanamsa) > >What is the significance oft this? > >The native ran Jupiter Mahadasha from 9/1969 to 9/1985. > >Because a planet in Mrityu Bhaga is likly to produce adverse reuslts, >i`m interested to know about the outcome in this case, where Jupiter >is placed in he 2th house. > >regards >Volker > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: gjlist- > > > > > > > > >The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. _______________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 Dear Manoj ji, [ 1 ] I had asked all those questions to find out which of the planets are functioning as malefics.I am glad that except for moon all the planets are ok. [ 2 ] establishing a Kumbha is to appease Saturn..and therefore he should do it on a Saturday after the sunset.Well he can think of any Ishta Dev while doing it. [ 3 ]offering sharab to the sun is also for the saturn.The things that are under the Karkatwa of saturn are : iron and iron products , leather products , Liquor and Mustard oil. The last two being in the liquid form and they can be offered . If he were in India i would have suggested offering Mustard oil in a shani temple or a Bharav temple.the other alternative is liquor offered to Sun [ he is Saturn's father] [ 4 ] Manoj ji how on earth can you say ' he will not survive the Ketu period'? he will not only survive that but much beyond too. [ 5 ] sure he will be 59 during the Ketu period and Jup sub in the Ketu is likely to be the time with regards, upadhyay In gjlist, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000> wrote: > Dear Upadhyay saheb, > > I got in touch with Bhardwaj and he has replied in negative for all your questions. > I have advised him to establish 'kumbha' in his house. Could you please tell the exact method as to how to establish kumbha like what should be the day, time and any matra has to be recited while establishing kumbha. > You are right about his wife. His wife has a fabulous career and her annual salary is 80 K (Canadian Dollars) per annum. So she is doing great by all means. He is worred about his own career. > > One thing I needed a small clarification is that during Saturn main period so far, Bhardwaj has quite ok career. I mean he was always known as a good journalist and was working with Times of India at a reasonably good position and good salary in India. What I mean to emphasis is that as his Saturn main peirod started, he was never unemployed even for a single day. But now he is unemployed for the last six months. Is this because, Saturn's main period is about to finish in a year or so for which the effect of Saturn has started waning? Kindly educate me on this. > > When you say that Mr. Bhardwaj would turn to spritualism, would it be when Ketu main period would start? I think, he won't survive Ketu main period. What do you say? > > Waiting for your reply. > > Yhanks > Manoj > > > upadhyay_iitd <upadhyay_iitd> wrote: > Dear manoj ji, > > { 1 } No i donot think he needs wearing a pearl now,we don't need > strengthening the third house any way. > { 2 } presently he needs a job and thats the priority.For that we > have to provide strength to Saturn [ 10th lord ] and the Sun [the > Karak for any job] It was for this reason I had suggested that he > establishes a Kumbha [ an earthen pot filled with water ] in his > house ; and offering liquor [ sharab ] to the rising sun. > { 3 } Wearing a Diamond is going to cause problems and I had noticed > that. It was for this reason I had suggested that his wife should > bury any blue flower in a lonely place in the EVENING. this will > provide strength to Venus minus the 6th lordship effects > { 4 } I am glad that he is married because his wife will be like a > Kamdhenu for him.He must respect her and serve her. She will protect > him from all harm.So long as she is happy Mr Bhardwaj will prosper. > { 5 } Around the age of 59 Mr Bhardwaj will turn to spiritualism, > when all these worldly things are going to be meaningless any way > > ...Please confirm my other questions too from Mr Bhardwaj.. > > > Upadhyay, IIT Delhi > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 Thanks a lot for giving me your insight. You appear to be an erudite and learned astrologer. And you also seem to be helpful. I appreciate all your help. Mr. Bhardwaj is my personal friend and I know him since childhood. That is why I was slightly concerned about him. I have conveyed all your advice to him and he will be following all of them. Just a last question. Will he be blessed by a child and if yes then when is the likely period. Best Regards And thanks a lot for your help. Manoj Sharma upadhyay_iitd <upadhyay_iitd > wrote: Dear Manoj ji,[ 1 ] I had asked all those questions to find out which of the planets are functioning as malefics.I am glad that except for moonall the planets are ok.[ 2 ] establishing a Kumbha is to appease Saturn..and therefore he should do it on a Saturday after the sunset.Well he can think of any Ishta Dev while doing it.[ 3 ]offering sharab to the sun is also for the saturn.The things that are under the Karkatwa of saturn are : iron and iron products , leather products , Liquor and Mustard oil. The last two being in the liquid form and they can be offered . If he were in India i would have suggested offering Mustard oil in a shani temple or a Bharav temple.the other alternative is liquor offered to Sun [ he is Saturn's father][ 4 ] Manoj ji how on earth can you say ' he will not survive the Ketu period'? he will not only survive that but much beyond too.[ 5 ] sure he will be 59 during the Ketu period andJup sub in the Ketu is likely to be the timewith regards,upadhyayIn gjlist, Manoj Sharma wrote:> Dear Upadhyay saheb,> > I got in touch with Bhardwaj and he has replied in negative for all your questions.> I have advised him to establish 'kumbha' in his house. Could you please tell the exact method as to how to establish kumbha like what should be the day, time and any matra has to be recited while establishing kumbha.> You are right about his wife. His wife has a fabulous career and her annual salary is 80 K (Canadian Dollars) per annum. So she is doing great by all means. He is worred about his own career.> > One thing I needed a small clarification is that during Saturn main period so far, Bhardwaj has quite ok career. I mean he was always known as a good journalist and was working with Times of India at a reasonably good position and good salary in India. What I mean to emphasis is that as his Saturn main peirod started, he was never unemployed even for a single day. But now he is unemployed for the last six months. Is this because, Saturn's main period is about to finish in a year or so for which the effect of Saturn has started waning? Kindly educate me on this.> > When you say that Mr. Bhardwaj would turn to spritualism, would it be when Ketu main period would start? I think, he won't survive Ketu main period. What do you say?> > Waiting for your reply.> > Yhanks> Manoj> > > upadhyay_iitd wrote:> Dear manoj ji,> > { 1 } No i donot think he needs wearing a pearl now,we don't need > strengthening the third house any way.> { 2 } presently he needs a job and thats the priority.For that we > have to provide strength to Saturn [ 10th lord ] and the Sun [the > Karak for any job] It was for this reason I had suggested that he > establishes a Kumbha [ an earthen pot filled with water ] in his > house ; and offering liquor [ sharab ] to the rising sun.> { 3 } Wearing a Diamond is going to cause problems and I had noticed > that. It was for this reason I had suggested that his wife should > bury any blue flower in a lonely place in the EVENING. this will > provide strength to Venus minus the 6th lordship effects> { 4 } I am glad that he is married because his wife will be like a > Kamdhenu for him.He must respect her and serve her. She will protect > him from all harm.So long as she is happy Mr Bhardwaj will prosper.> { 5 } Around the age of 59 Mr Bhardwaj will turn to spiritualism, > when all these worldly things are going to be meaningless any way> > ...Please confirm my other questions too from Mr Bhardwaj..> > > Upadhyay, IIT Delhi> > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> : gjlist-> http://www.goravani.com> > > Your use of Groups is subject to > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 Hello Mr. Upadhyay, As a student of learning Jyotish, may I ask questions which are in CAP.letters below your reply; >"upadhyay_iitd" <upadhyay_iitd >gjlist >gjlist >Re: [GJ] Bhardwaj's Horoscope >Mon, 23 Jun 2003 17:46:58 -0000 > >Dear Manoj ji, > [ 1 ] I had asked all those questions to find out which of >the planets are functioning as malefics.I am glad that except for moon >all the planets are ok. WHY MOON IS FUNCTIONAL MALEFIC IN THE CHART OF BHARDWAJ'S HOROSCOPE ? > [ 2 ] establishing a Kumbha is to appease Saturn..and >therefore he should do it on a Saturday after the sunset.Well he can >think of any Ishta Dev while doing it. IT SEEMS CONTRADICTION HERE. AS YOU SAID ABOVE THAT THERE ARE NO MALEFIC EXCEPT MOON, CORRECT. THEN WHY TO APPEASE SATURN WHICH IS BENEFIC ? > [ 3 ]offering sharab to the sun is also for the saturn.The >things that are under the Karkatwa of saturn are : iron and iron >products , leather products , Liquor and Mustard oil. The last two >being in the liquid form and they can be offered . If he were in >India i would have suggested offering Mustard oil in a shani temple >or a Bharav temple.the other alternative is liquor offered to Sun [ >he is Saturn's father] WHY ESTABLISH KUMBHA AND THE SAME TIME OFFER SARAB TO LORD SUN FOR APPEASING SATURN ? WHILE BOTH SUN AND SATURN ARE BENEFIC, WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF DOING THIS REMEDIAL PROPITIATIONS? AWAITING YOUR FURTHER COMMENTS. BEST WISHES....................................................AMAR PURI. > [ 4 ] Manoj ji how on earth can you say ' he will not >survive the Ketu period'? he will not only survive that but much >beyond too. > > [ 5 ] sure he will be 59 during the Ketu period and >Jup sub in the Ketu is likely to be the time > > >with regards, > >upadhyay > > > > >In gjlist, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000> >wrote: > > Dear Upadhyay saheb, > > > > I got in touch with Bhardwaj and he has replied in negative for all >your questions. > > I have advised him to establish 'kumbha' in his house. Could you >please tell the exact method as to how to establish kumbha like what >should be the day, time and any matra has to be recited while >establishing kumbha. > > You are right about his wife. His wife has a fabulous career and >her annual salary is 80 K (Canadian Dollars) per annum. So she is >doing great by all means. He is worred about his own career. > > > > One thing I needed a small clarification is that during Saturn main >period so far, Bhardwaj has quite ok career. I mean he was always >known as a good journalist and was working with Times of India at a >reasonably good position and good salary in India. What I mean to >emphasis is that as his Saturn main peirod started, he was never >unemployed even for a single day. But now he is unemployed for the >last six months. Is this because, Saturn's main period is about to >finish in a year or so for which the effect of Saturn has started >waning? Kindly educate me on this. > > > > When you say that Mr. Bhardwaj would turn to spritualism, would it >be when Ketu main period would start? I think, he won't survive Ketu >main period. What do you say? > > > > Waiting for your reply. > > > > Yhanks > > Manoj > > > > > > upadhyay_iitd <upadhyay_iitd> wrote: > > Dear manoj ji, > > > > { 1 } No i donot think he needs wearing a pearl now,we don't need > > strengthening the third house any way. > > { 2 } presently he needs a job and thats the priority.For that we > > have to provide strength to Saturn [ 10th lord ] and the Sun [the > > Karak for any job] It was for this reason I had suggested that he > > establishes a Kumbha [ an earthen pot filled with water ] in his > > house ; and offering liquor [ sharab ] to the rising sun. > > { 3 } Wearing a Diamond is going to cause problems and I had >noticed > > that. It was for this reason I had suggested that his wife should > > bury any blue flower in a lonely place in the EVENING. this will > > provide strength to Venus minus the 6th lordship effects > > { 4 } I am glad that he is married because his wife will be like a > > Kamdhenu for him.He must respect her and serve her. She will >protect > > him from all harm.So long as she is happy Mr Bhardwaj will prosper. > > { 5 } Around the age of 59 Mr Bhardwaj will turn to spiritualism, > > when all these worldly things are going to be meaningless any way > > > > ...Please confirm my other questions too from Mr Bhardwaj.. > > > > > > Upadhyay, IIT Delhi > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > _______________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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