Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 Hare Rama Krisna The practice of Yoga, in all its facets, is the surest way to attain happiness. Happiness is seen from the 4th house, its lord, and karaka (Moon). If the fourth house, it’s lord and Moon are happy then the person is content and wears a smile on their face. The deity associated with the lord of the fourth house can be worshipped for contentment. This is important as Santosh (contentment) is one of the Yama and Niyama that are the foundations of yoga taught by Patanjali. The Moon must be made strong/happy, as karaka for the fourth and the manas. Beneficial aspects to the Moon must be strengthened via mantra, gems and foods of the beneficial planets. Negative aspects should be appeased through puja, prayer, mantra, dana. Then the Moon itself must be strengthened. A powerful way to do this is to find the deity associated with your Moon. For Papa/Purva karma we are concerned with Bhagavan. For Sukha/Dukha (happiness/suffering) we are concerned with the Mother. So the goddess associated with the Moon must be correctly calculated and She is to be worshipped in the proper way. See Prasna Marga, to begin with, for determining the Goddess of the Moon and Guruji’s Vedic Remedies for mantra to Her. Also insure the Lagnesh is well supported. Namah Sivaya Freedom 10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial"> -----Original Message----- Pavan [pk-vemuri (AT) enviroscience-ems (DOT) com] Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:55 AM gjlist Re: [GJ] happiness Happiness is a frame of mind. The strength of Moon (mind) helps us to be happy. The placement of Moon shows the things (related to that house) that make us happy. No one can be always happy, but if we choose to be happy we can, by developing a correct frame of mind. As explained in Bhagawadh Geeta - by becoming a "Sthita Pragna" (A person unattached to the consequences of his Karma and who acts according to the demands of his situation). Such a person can and will be happy coz he realises that whatever is happening to him is just a game of eternity reducing his past debts. An unhappy persons soul seeks happiness which makes it to take a rebirth. A happy persons soul satisfied with the things this earth and life has to offer moves towards emancipation. So, dont worry, be happy. The favorable aspects from other planets on Moon indicate the relations (ruled by those planets) who make us happy. The reverse (unfavorable) is also true. To take charge of our happiness - we could choose not to be attached to our karma. Moon is good between 8th tithi of both pakshas (Waxing). Moon is favorable in 2, 5, 9, 10, 11 houses. Neutral in 1, 3, 8, 12 houses and unfavorable in 4, 6, 7 houses unless these houses are not owned by Mercury (who logically negates Moon always. sometimes logic creates a mental abberation) and Saturn (who detaches the Mind from the heart creating a tension between the right or wrong thing to do). windowtext"> This is my humble opinion on this topic. Pavan margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">----- Original Message ----- margin-left:39.75pt;background:#E4E4E4;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> font-weight:bold"> Tanvir Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> font-weight:bold">gjlist font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> font-weight:bold">Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:05 AM margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> font-weight:bold">Re: [GJ] happiness margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">Hi Cynthia, windowtext"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">I thought I would share my feelings with you :-) margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">You are right that it depends a lot on he native itself. margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">Astrologically, I would see the 4th house and Lord, Moon, 4th from Moon. I would see the 9th lord and Sani also. mso-color-alt:windowtext"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">This is the general approach, this would decide how person "take" the sorrows... (The thing you mentioned that it depends on the native), these bhavas and planets being good indicates he or she can adjust himself or herself easily and thus become comparatively happy. I would also see the position of 6th and 8th lords and their strengths. margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">Imp to keep in mind that there is nothing called 'ever happiness' but it is a matter of the flow of time so periods and transits are helpful. If the major period of life passes with a malefic maha dasha, (Say 20 yrs Ve maha dasha) then it would effect the native's life greatly, and looking him/her having an unhappy life. mso-color-alt:windowtext"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">Regards, Tanvir windowtext"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">PS. To judge happiness, it is good to have an overall look to all houses esp 1st, 7th, 2nd, 10th, 5th, 9th etc - if any of these are seriously troubled then the happiness would be hampered surely - most of the times unhappiness comes from these houses you know. mso-color-alt:windowtext"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">Just my two cents :-))) mso-color-alt:windowtext"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">What can not happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">Tanvir Chowdhury tanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) com http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding: 0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">----- Original Message ----- 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"> margin-left:43.5pt;background:#E4E4E4;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> font-weight:bold"> cynthianovak Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"> margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding: 0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">To: color:black"> gjlist color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"> margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding: 0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">Sent: color:black"> Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:51 PM color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"> margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding: 0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">Subject: color:black"> Re: [GJ] happiness mso-color-alt:windowtext"> margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding: 0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding: 0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">Dear All I am always struck when someone places a message asking if they will be happy. My first response is that being happy is up to the individual, being miserable is also a choice. Still, the placement of the Moon by nakshatra or simply by aspect or being hemmed in between difficult planets often indicates a person who is not "happy." As astrologers or jyotishis, do you look at the chart and answer, "you will never be happy." Do you look and ask "have you ever been happy?" in the case of the latter, perhaps a SAturn transit is influencing at the time. Or, do you help the client see how his or her perceptions (Moon) influence happiness or misery? I guess what I am asking is a discussion on is this. Are perceptions limited by the chart or can a person learn to work well within the confines of difficult transits and aspects? I have seen folks who would never consider themselve happy with very easy lives and folks who would never presume that happiness is the responsibility of anyone but themselves. Perhaps this is a cultural difference....or is it the difference of age and wisdom? Hoping for discussion cynthia windowtext"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> color:black"> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. mso-color-alt:windowtext"> color:black"> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. mso-color-alt:windowtext"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 ThanksvenusgaalFreedom <freedom (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Hare Rama Krisna The practice of Yoga, in all its facets, is the surest way to attain happiness. Happiness is seen from the 4th house, its lord, and karaka (Moon). If the fourth house, it’s lord and Moon are happy then the person is content and wears a smile on their face. The deity associated with the lord of the fourth house can be worshipped for contentment. This is important as Santosh (contentment) is one of the Yama and Niyama that are the foundations of yoga taught by Patanjali. The Moon must be made strong/happy, as karaka for the fourth and the manas. Beneficial aspects to the Moon must be strengthened via mantra, gems and foods of the beneficial planets. Negative aspects should be appeased through puja, prayer, mantra, dana. Then the Moon itself must be strengthened. A powerful way to do this is to find the deity associated with your Moon. For Papa/Purva karma we are concerned with Bhagavan. For Sukha/Dukha (happiness/suffering) we are concerned with the Mother. So the goddess associated with the Moon must be correctly calculated and She is to be worshipped in the proper way. See Prasna Marga, to begin with, for determining the Goddess of the Moon and Guruji’s Vedic Remedies for mantra to Her. Also insure the Lagnesh is well supported. Namah Sivaya Freedom Pavan [pk-vemuri (AT) enviroscience-ems (DOT) com]Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:55 AMgjlistSubject: Re: [GJ] happiness Happiness is a frame of mind. The strength of Moon (mind) helps us to be happy. The placement of Moon shows the things (related to that house) that make us happy. No one can be always happy, but if we choose to be happy we can, by developing a correct frame of mind. As explained in Bhagawadh Geeta - by becoming a "Sthita Pragna" (A person unattached to the consequences of his Karma and who acts according to the demands of his situation). Such a person can and will be happy coz he realises that whatever is happening to him is just a game of eternity reducing his past debts. An unhappy persons soul seeks happiness which makes it to take a rebirth. A happy persons soul satisfied with the things this earth and life has to offer moves towards emancipation. So, dont worry, be happy. The favorable aspects from other planets on Moon indicate the relations (ruled by those planets) who make us happy. The reverse (unfavorable) is also true. To take charge of our happiness - we could choose not to be attached to our karma. Moon is good between 8th tithi of both pakshas (Waxing). Moon is favorable in 2, 5, 9, 10, 11 houses. Neutral in 1, 3, 8, 12 houses and unfavorable in 4, 6, 7 houses unless these houses are not owned by Mercury (who logically negates Moon always. sometimes logic creates a mental abberation) and Saturn (who detaches the Mind from the heart creating a tension between the right or wrong thing to do). This is my humble opinion on this topic. Pavan - Tanvir gjlist Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:05 AM Re: [GJ] happiness Hi Cynthia, I thought I would share my feelings with you :-) You are right that it depends a lot on he native itself. Astrologically, I would see the 4th house and Lord, Moon, 4th from Moon. I would see the 9th lord and Sani also. This is the general approach, this would decide how person "take" the sorrows... (The thing you mentioned that it depends on the native), these bhavas and planets being good indicates he or she can adjust himself or herself easily and thus become comparatively happy. I would also see the position of 6th and 8th lords and their strengths. Imp to keep in mind that there is nothing called 'ever happiness' but it is a matter of the flow of time so periods and transits are helpful. If the major period of life passes with a malefic maha dasha, (Say 20 yrs Ve maha dasha) then it would effect the native's life greatly, and looking him/her having an unhappy life. Regards,Tanvir PS. To judge happiness, it is good to have an overall look to all houses esp 1st, 7th, 2nd, 10th, 5th, 9th etc - if any of these are seriously troubled then the happiness would be hampered surely - most of the times unhappiness comes from these houses you know. Just my two cents :-))) What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro - cynthianovak gjlist Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:51 PM Re: [GJ] happiness Dear AllI am always struck when someone places a message asking if they will behappy. My first response is that being happy is up to the individual, beingmiserable is also a choice.Still, the placement of the Moon by nakshatra or simply by aspect or beinghemmed in between difficult planets often indicates a person who is not"happy."As astrologers or jyotishis, do you look at the chart and answer, "you willnever be happy." Do you look and ask "have you ever been happy?" in thecase of the latter, perhaps a SAturn transit is influencing at the time.Or, do you help the client see how his or her perceptions (Moon) influencehappiness or misery?I guess what I am asking is a discussion on is this. Are perceptionslimited by the chart or can a person learn to work well within the confinesof difficult transits and aspects? I have seen folks who would neverconsider themselve happy with very easy lives and folks who would neverpresume that happiness is the responsibility of anyone but themselves.Perhaps this is a cultural difference....or is it the difference of age andwisdom?Hoping for discussioncynthia Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 Om Gurave Namah, Dear Shreeya, As already mentioned 4th house is for Happiness. True happiness is when the soul i.e Atma is set free from desires and this is done by the Ishta Devata. Ishta Devata is indicated by the 12th house from Atma Kaaraka in Navamsa. True Happiness comes when Ishta devata planets is related to the 4th house in Rasi Chart. Warm regards, S. Prabhakaran gjlist, Shreeya <venusgaal2003> wrote: > Hi > I would like to ask what if the moon is unaspected by any planet then what is the situation regarding the mind of the person?but with malefics like ketu ...how does ketu effect moon?why do u find the moon ketu combination in the spiritual people like Chaitnya Mahaprbhu? > Thanks > venusgaal > > Freedom <freedom@s...> wrote: > > > Hare Rama Krisna > > The practice of Yoga, in all its facets, is the surest way to attain happiness. > > > > Happiness is seen from the 4th house, its lord, and karaka (Moon). If the fourth house, it's lord and Moon are happy then the person is content and wears a smile on their face. The deity associated with the lord of the fourth house can be worshipped for contentment. This is important as Santosh (contentment) is one of the Yama and Niyama that are the foundations of yoga taught by Patanjali. > > The Moon must be made strong/happy, as karaka for the fourth and the manas. Beneficial aspects to the Moon must be strengthened via mantra, gems and foods of the beneficial planets. Negative aspects should be appeased through puja, prayer, mantra, dana. Then the Moon itself must be strengthened. A powerful way to do this is to find the deity associated with your Moon. For Papa/Purva karma we are concerned with Bhagavan. For Sukha/Dukha (happiness/suffering) we are concerned with the Mother. So the goddess associated with the Moon must be correctly calculated and She is to be worshipped in the proper way. See Prasna Marga, to begin with, for determining the Goddess of the Moon and Guruji's Vedic Remedies for mantra to Her. > > Also insure the Lagnesh is well supported. > > Namah Sivaya > > Freedom > > > > > Pavan [pk-vemuri@e...] > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:55 AM > gjlist > Re: [GJ] happiness > > > > Happiness is a frame of mind. The strength of Moon (mind) helps us to be happy. The placement of Moon shows the things (related to that house) that make us happy. No one can be always happy, but if we choose to be happy we can, by developing a correct frame of mind. As explained in Bhagawadh Geeta - by becoming a "Sthita Pragna" (A person unattached to the consequences of his Karma and who acts according to the demands of his situation). Such a person can and will be happy coz he realises that whatever is happening to him is just a game of eternity reducing his past debts. > > > > An unhappy persons soul seeks happiness which makes it to take a rebirth. A happy persons soul satisfied with the things this earth and life has to offer moves towards emancipation. So, dont worry, be happy. > > > > The favorable aspects from other planets on Moon indicate the relations (ruled by those planets) who make us happy. The reverse (unfavorable) is also true. To take charge of our happiness - we could choose not to be attached to our karma. > > > > Moon is good between 8th tithi of both pakshas (Waxing). Moon is favorable in 2, 5, 9, 10, 11 houses. Neutral in 1, 3, 8, 12 houses and unfavorable in 4, 6, 7 houses unless these houses are not owned by Mercury (who logically negates Moon always. sometimes logic creates a mental abberation) and Saturn (who detaches the Mind from the heart creating a tension between the right or wrong thing to do). > > > > This is my humble opinion on this topic. > > > > Pavan > > - > > Tanvir > > > > gjlist > > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:05 AM > > Re: [GJ] happiness > > > > Hi Cynthia, > > I thought I would share my feelings with you :-) > > > > You are right that it depends a lot on he native itself. > > > > Astrologically, I would see the 4th house and Lord, Moon, 4th from Moon. I would see the 9th lord and Sani also. > > > > This is the general approach, this would decide how person "take" the sorrows... (The thing you mentioned that it depends on the native), these bhavas and planets being good indicates he or she can adjust himself or herself easily and thus become comparatively happy. I would also see the position of 6th and 8th lords and their strengths. > > > > Imp to keep in mind that there is nothing called 'ever happiness' but it is a matter of the flow of time so periods and transits are helpful. If the major period of life passes with a malefic maha dasha, (Say 20 yrs Ve maha dasha) then it would effect the native's life greatly, and looking him/her having an unhappy life. > > > > Regards, > Tanvir > > > > PS. To judge happiness, it is good to have an overall look to all houses esp 1st, 7th, 2nd, 10th, 5th, 9th etc - if any of these are seriously troubled then the happiness would be hampered surely - most of the times unhappiness comes from these houses you know. > > > > Just my two cents :-))) > What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > Tanvir Chowdhury > tanvir@s... > http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > > > > - > > cynthianovak > > > > gjlist > > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:51 PM > > Re: [GJ] happiness > > > > Dear All > I am always struck when someone places a message asking if they will be > happy. My first response is that being happy is up to the individual, being > miserable is also a choice. > > Still, the placement of the Moon by nakshatra or simply by aspect or being > hemmed in between difficult planets often indicates a person who is not > "happy." > > As astrologers or jyotishis, do you look at the chart and answer, "you will > never be happy." Do you look and ask "have you ever been happy?" in the > case of the latter, perhaps a SAturn transit is influencing at the time. > > Or, do you help the client see how his or her perceptions (Moon) influence > happiness or misery? > > I guess what I am asking is a discussion on is this. Are perceptions > limited by the chart or can a person learn to work well within the confines > of difficult transits and aspects? I have seen folks who would never > consider themselve happy with very easy lives and folks who would never > presume that happiness is the responsibility of anyone but themselves. > > Perhaps this is a cultural difference....or is it the difference of age and > wisdom? > > Hoping for discussion > cynthia > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Terms of Service. > > Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 Does moon and Rahu indicate materialistic tendencies? Thanks & Regards,SHreeyasanjayprabhakaran <sanjayp (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Om Gurave Namah,Dear Shreeya,As already mentioned 4th house is for Happiness. True happiness is when the soul i.e Atma is set free from desires and this is done by the Ishta Devata. Ishta Devata is indicated by the 12th house from Atma Kaaraka in Navamsa. True Happiness comes when Ishta devata planets is related to the 4th house in Rasi Chart.Warm regards,S. Prabhakaran--- In gjlist, Shreeya wrote:> Hi> I would like to ask what if the moon is unaspected by any planet then what is the situation regarding the mind of the person?but with malefics like ketu ...how does ketu effect moon?why do u find the moon ketu combination in the spiritual people like Chaitnya Mahaprbhu?> Thanks> venusgaal> > Freedom wrote:> > > Hare Rama Krisna> > The practice of Yoga, in all its facets, is the surest way to attain happiness. > > > > Happiness is seen from the 4th house, its lord, and karaka (Moon). If the fourth house, it's lord and Moon are happy then the person is content and wears a smile on their face. The deity associated with the lord of the fourth house can be worshipped for contentment. This is important as Santosh (contentment) is one of the Yama and Niyama that are the foundations of yoga taught by Patanjali. > > The Moon must be made strong/happy, as karaka for the fourth and the manas. Beneficial aspects to the Moon must be strengthened via mantra, gems and foods of the beneficial planets. Negative aspects should be appeased through puja, prayer, mantra, dana. Then the Moon itself must be strengthened. A powerful way to do this is to find the deity associated with your Moon. For Papa/Purva karma we are concerned with Bhagavan. For Sukha/Dukha (happiness/suffering) we are concerned with the Mother. So the goddess associated with the Moon must be correctly calculated and She is to be worshipped in the proper way. See Prasna Marga, to begin with, for determining the Goddess of the Moon and Guruji's Vedic Remedies for mantra to Her.> > Also insure the Lagnesh is well supported. > > Namah Sivaya> > Freedom> > > > > Pavan [pk-vemuri@e...]> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:55 AM> gjlist> Re: [GJ] happiness> > > > Happiness is a frame of mind. The strength of Moon (mind) helps us to be happy. The placement of Moon shows the things (related to that house) that make us happy. No one can be always happy, but if we choose to be happy we can, by developing a correct frame of mind. As explained in Bhagawadh Geeta - by becoming a "Sthita Pragna" (A person unattached to the consequences of his Karma and who acts according to the demands of his situation). Such a person can and will be happy coz he realises that whatever is happening to him is just a game of eternity reducing his past debts.> > > > An unhappy persons soul seeks happiness which makes it to take a rebirth. A happy persons soul satisfied with the things this earth and life has to offer moves towards emancipation. So, dont worry, be happy.> > > > The favorable aspects from other planets on Moon indicate the relations (ruled by those planets) who make us happy. The reverse (unfavorable) is also true. To take charge of our happiness - we could choose not to be attached to our karma.> > > > Moon is good between 8th tithi of both pakshas (Waxing). Moon is favorable in 2, 5, 9, 10, 11 houses. Neutral in 1, 3, 8, 12 houses and unfavorable in 4, 6, 7 houses unless these houses are not owned by Mercury (who logically negates Moon always. sometimes logic creates a mental abberation) and Saturn (who detaches the Mind from the heart creating a tension between the right or wrong thing to do).> > > > This is my humble opinion on this topic.> > > > Pavan> > - > > Tanvir > > > > gjlist > > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:05 AM> > Re: [GJ] happiness> > > > Hi Cynthia,> > I thought I would share my feelings with you :-)> > > > You are right that it depends a lot on he native itself.> > > > Astrologically, I would see the 4th house and Lord, Moon, 4th from Moon. I would see the 9th lord and Sani also.> > > > This is the general approach, this would decide how person "take" the sorrows... (The thing you mentioned that it depends on the native), these bhavas and planets being good indicates he or she can adjust himself or herself easily and thus become comparatively happy. I would also see the position of 6th and 8th lords and their strengths.> > > > Imp to keep in mind that there is nothing called 'ever happiness' but it is a matter of the flow of time so periods and transits are helpful. If the major period of life passes with a malefic maha dasha, (Say 20 yrs Ve maha dasha) then it would effect the native's life greatly, and looking him/her having an unhappy life.> > > > Regards,> Tanvir> > > > PS. To judge happiness, it is good to have an overall look to all houses esp 1st, 7th, 2nd, 10th, 5th, 9th etc - if any of these are seriously troubled then the happiness would be hampered surely - most of the times unhappiness comes from these houses you know.> > > > Just my two cents :-)))> > > > > > > > What can not happen, can never happen.> Which is mine, is forever mine.> > > > Tanvir Chowdhury> tanvir@s...> http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir> http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > cynthianovak > > > > gjlist > > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:51 PM> > Re: [GJ] happiness> > > > Dear All> I am always struck when someone places a message asking if they will be> happy. My first response is that being happy is up to the individual, being> miserable is also a choice.> > Still, the placement of the Moon by nakshatra or simply by aspect or being> hemmed in between difficult planets often indicates a person who is not> "happy."> > As astrologers or jyotishis, do you look at the chart and answer, "you will> never be happy." Do you look and ask "have you ever been happy?" in the> case of the latter, perhaps a SAturn transit is influencing at the time.> > Or, do you help the client see how his or her perceptions (Moon) influence> happiness or misery?> > I guess what I am asking is a discussion on is this. Are perceptions> limited by the chart or can a person learn to work well within the confines> of difficult transits and aspects? I have seen folks who would never> consider themselve happy with very easy lives and folks who would never> presume that happiness is the responsibility of anyone but themselves.> > Perhaps this is a cultural difference....or is it the difference of age and> wisdom?> > Hoping for discussion> cynthia> > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> To , send an email to: gjlist-> http://www.goravani.com> > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> To , send an email to: gjlist-> http://www.goravani.com> > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> To , send an email to: gjlist-> http://www.goravani.com> > > Your use of is subject to the > > Catch all the cricket action. Download Score trackerOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to Catch all the cricket action. 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Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 Dear Ms Shreeya Only conjunction of Moon & Ketu within 5 deg orb. cannot provide spiritualism besides other factors in the chart like good placement of Jupiter, Sun & Mercury are also needed. The conjunction of Moon & Ketu/Rahu can also indulge a person in materialism, vices, eating disorders. A single conjunction/combination cannot be responsible for a particular feature/effect. With best Wishes. Narinder Juneja. www.MyWebAstrologer.com K-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2, Gurgaon-122002, Haryana. INDIA Ph.91-124-2564567, 5014567, mobile-091-9810058186 - "Shreeya" <venusgaal2003 <gjlist> Thursday, May 22, 2003 09:07 AM Re: [GJ] happiness, how to get more:) > Respected Prabhakaranji, > Thanks for replying to my question.I would also like to know what is the effect when moon conjoins ketu since we take moon also as a major factore counting in our happiness.Does this conjunction indicate spirituality because we take nodes to be malefics and conjoing with moon should harm the indications of moon but we see it in the charts of spiritual people. > Does moon and Rahu indicate materialistic tendencies? > Thanks & Regards, > SHreeya > > sanjayprabhakaran <sanjayp wrote: > Om Gurave Namah, > Dear Shreeya, > As already mentioned 4th house is for Happiness. True happiness is > when the soul i.e Atma is set free from desires and this is done by > the Ishta Devata. Ishta Devata is indicated by the 12th house from > Atma Kaaraka in Navamsa. True Happiness comes when Ishta devata > planets is related to the 4th house in Rasi Chart. > > Warm regards, > S. Prabhakaran > > > > gjlist, Shreeya wrote: > > Hi > > I would like to ask what if the moon is unaspected by any planet > then what is the situation regarding the mind of the person?but with > malefics like ketu ...how does ketu effect moon?why do u find the > moon ketu combination in the spiritual people like Chaitnya > Mahaprbhu? > > Thanks > > venusgaal > > > > Freedom wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krisna > > > > The practice of Yoga, in all its facets, is the surest way to > attain happiness. > > > > > > > > Happiness is seen from the 4th house, its lord, and karaka (Moon). > If the fourth house, it's lord and Moon are happy then the person is > content and wears a smile on their face. The deity associated with > the lord of the fourth house can be worshipped for contentment. This > is important as Santosh (contentment) is one of the Yama and Niyama > that are the foundations of yoga taught by Patanjali. > > > > The Moon must be made strong/happy, as karaka for the fourth and > the manas. Beneficial aspects to the Moon must be strengthened via > mantra, gems and foods of the beneficial planets. Negative aspects > should be appeased through puja, prayer, mantra, dana. Then the Moon > itself must be strengthened. A powerful way to do this is to find > the deity associated with your Moon. For Papa/Purva karma we are > concerned with Bhagavan. For Sukha/Dukha (happiness/suffering) we > are concerned with the Mother. So the goddess associated with the > Moon must be correctly calculated and She is to be worshipped in the > proper way. See Prasna Marga, to begin with, for determining the > Goddess of the Moon and Guruji's Vedic Remedies for mantra to Her. > > > > Also insure the Lagnesh is well supported. > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > Freedom > > > > > > > > > > Pavan [pk-vemuri@e...] > > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:55 AM > > gjlist > > Re: [GJ] happiness > > > > > > > > Happiness is a frame of mind. The strength of Moon (mind) helps us > to be happy. The placement of Moon shows the things (related to that > house) that make us happy. No one can be always happy, but if we > choose to be happy we can, by developing a correct frame of mind. As > explained in Bhagawadh Geeta - by becoming a "Sthita Pragna" (A > person unattached to the consequences of his Karma and who acts > according to the demands of his situation). Such a person can and > will be happy coz he realises that whatever is happening to him is > just a game of eternity reducing his past debts. > > > > > > > > An unhappy persons soul seeks happiness which makes it to take a > rebirth. A happy persons soul satisfied with the things this earth > and life has to offer moves towards emancipation. So, dont worry, be > happy. > > > > > > > > The favorable aspects from other planets on Moon indicate the > relations (ruled by those planets) who make us happy. The reverse > (unfavorable) is also true. To take charge of our happiness - we > could choose not to be attached to our karma. > > > > > > > > Moon is good between 8th tithi of both pakshas (Waxing). Moon is > favorable in 2, 5, 9, 10, 11 houses. Neutral in 1, 3, 8, 12 houses > and unfavorable in 4, 6, 7 houses unless these houses are not owned > by Mercury (who logically negates Moon always. sometimes logic > creates a mental abberation) and Saturn (who detaches the Mind from > the heart creating a tension between the right or wrong thing to do). > > > > > > > > This is my humble opinion on this topic. > > > > > > > > Pavan > > > > - > > > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > gjlist > > > > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:05 AM > > > > Re: [GJ] happiness > > > > > > > > Hi Cynthia, > > > > I thought I would share my feelings with you :-) > > > > > > > > You are right that it depends a lot on he native itself. > > > > > > > > Astrologically, I would see the 4th house and Lord, Moon, 4th from > Moon. I would see the 9th lord and Sani also. > > > > > > > > This is the general approach, this would decide how person "take" > the sorrows... (The thing you mentioned that it depends on the > native), these bhavas and planets being good indicates he or she can > adjust himself or herself easily and thus become comparatively > happy. I would also see the position of 6th and 8th lords and their > strengths. > > > > > > > > Imp to keep in mind that there is nothing called 'ever happiness' > but it is a matter of the flow of time so periods and transits are > helpful. If the major period of life passes with a malefic maha > dasha, (Say 20 yrs Ve maha dasha) then it would effect the native's > life greatly, and looking him/her having an unhappy life. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > PS. To judge happiness, it is good to have an overall look to all > houses esp 1st, 7th, 2nd, 10th, 5th, 9th etc - if any of these are > seriously troubled then the happiness would be hampered surely - > most of the times unhappiness comes from these houses you know. > > > > > > > > Just my two cents :-))) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > > > > > Tanvir Chowdhury > > tanvir@s... > > http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > > > > > > > > - > > > > cynthianovak > > > > > > > > gjlist > > > > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:51 PM > > > > Re: [GJ] happiness > > > > > > > > Dear All > > I am always struck when someone places a message asking if they > will be > > happy. My first response is that being happy is up to the > individual, being > > miserable is also a choice. > > > > Still, the placement of the Moon by nakshatra or simply by aspect > or being > > hemmed in between difficult planets often indicates a person who > is not > > "happy." > > > > As astrologers or jyotishis, do you look at the chart and > answer, "you will > > never be happy." Do you look and ask "have you ever been happy?" > in the > > case of the latter, perhaps a SAturn transit is influencing at the > time. > > > > Or, do you help the client see how his or her perceptions (Moon) > influence > > happiness or misery? > > > > I guess what I am asking is a discussion on is this. Are > perceptions > > limited by the chart or can a person learn to work well within the > confines > > of difficult transits and aspects? I have seen folks who would > never > > consider themselve happy with very easy lives and folks who would > never > > presume that happiness is the responsibility of anyone but > themselves. > > > > Perhaps this is a cultural difference....or is it the difference > of age and > > wisdom? > > > > Hoping for discussion > > cynthia > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Catch all the cricket action. 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Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 Om Shree ChandraShekaraya Namah Dear Shreeya, Moon conjoined ketu brings down the mind it can cause a sense of void. Moon conjoined Rahu causes Shakti Yoga, This yoga gives lot of Shakti and can drive a person very to reach the goal. For Shakti Yoga to be benificial it should not aspect 9th house or it's lord else dharma gets destroyed. Opposite of Shakti Yoga is Shiva Yoga caused by Sun and Ketu combination. Shiva yoga give sacrificing tendency. Warm Regards S. Prabhakaran gjlist, Shreeya <venusgaal2003> wrote: > Respected Prabhakaranji, > Thanks for replying to my question.I would also like to know what is the effect when moon conjoins ketu since we take moon also as a major factore counting in our happiness.Does this conjunction indicate spirituality because we take nodes to be malefics and conjoing with moon should harm the indications of moon but we see it in the charts of spiritual people. > Does moon and Rahu indicate materialistic tendencies? > Thanks & Regards, > SHreeya > > sanjayprabhakaran <sanjayp@s...> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah, > Dear Shreeya, > As already mentioned 4th house is for Happiness. True happiness is > when the soul i.e Atma is set free from desires and this is done by > the Ishta Devata. Ishta Devata is indicated by the 12th house from > Atma Kaaraka in Navamsa. True Happiness comes when Ishta devata > planets is related to the 4th house in Rasi Chart. > > Warm regards, > S. Prabhakaran > > > > gjlist, Shreeya wrote: > > Hi > > I would like to ask what if the moon is unaspected by any planet > then what is the situation regarding the mind of the person?but with > malefics like ketu ...how does ketu effect moon?why do u find the > moon ketu combination in the spiritual people like Chaitnya > Mahaprbhu? > > Thanks > > venusgaal > > > > Freedom wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krisna > > > > The practice of Yoga, in all its facets, is the surest way to > attain happiness. > > > > > > > > Happiness is seen from the 4th house, its lord, and karaka (Moon). > If the fourth house, it's lord and Moon are happy then the person is > content and wears a smile on their face. The deity associated with > the lord of the fourth house can be worshipped for contentment. This > is important as Santosh (contentment) is one of the Yama and Niyama > that are the foundations of yoga taught by Patanjali. > > > > The Moon must be made strong/happy, as karaka for the fourth and > the manas. Beneficial aspects to the Moon must be strengthened via > mantra, gems and foods of the beneficial planets. Negative aspects > should be appeased through puja, prayer, mantra, dana. Then the Moon > itself must be strengthened. A powerful way to do this is to find > the deity associated with your Moon. For Papa/Purva karma we are > concerned with Bhagavan. For Sukha/Dukha (happiness/suffering) we > are concerned with the Mother. So the goddess associated with the > Moon must be correctly calculated and She is to be worshipped in the > proper way. See Prasna Marga, to begin with, for determining the > Goddess of the Moon and Guruji's Vedic Remedies for mantra to Her. > > > > Also insure the Lagnesh is well supported. > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > Freedom > > > > > > > > > > Pavan [pk-vemuri@e...] > > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:55 AM > > gjlist > > Re: [GJ] happiness > > > > > > > > Happiness is a frame of mind. The strength of Moon (mind) helps us > to be happy. The placement of Moon shows the things (related to that > house) that make us happy. No one can be always happy, but if we > choose to be happy we can, by developing a correct frame of mind. As > explained in Bhagawadh Geeta - by becoming a "Sthita Pragna" (A > person unattached to the consequences of his Karma and who acts > according to the demands of his situation). Such a person can and > will be happy coz he realises that whatever is happening to him is > just a game of eternity reducing his past debts. > > > > > > > > An unhappy persons soul seeks happiness which makes it to take a > rebirth. A happy persons soul satisfied with the things this earth > and life has to offer moves towards emancipation. So, dont worry, be > happy. > > > > > > > > The favorable aspects from other planets on Moon indicate the > relations (ruled by those planets) who make us happy. The reverse > (unfavorable) is also true. To take charge of our happiness - we > could choose not to be attached to our karma. > > > > > > > > Moon is good between 8th tithi of both pakshas (Waxing). Moon is > favorable in 2, 5, 9, 10, 11 houses. Neutral in 1, 3, 8, 12 houses > and unfavorable in 4, 6, 7 houses unless these houses are not owned > by Mercury (who logically negates Moon always. sometimes logic > creates a mental abberation) and Saturn (who detaches the Mind from > the heart creating a tension between the right or wrong thing to do). > > > > > > > > This is my humble opinion on this topic. > > > > > > > > Pavan > > > > - > > > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > gjlist > > > > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:05 AM > > > > Re: [GJ] happiness > > > > > > > > Hi Cynthia, > > > > I thought I would share my feelings with you :-) > > > > > > > > You are right that it depends a lot on he native itself. > > > > > > > > Astrologically, I would see the 4th house and Lord, Moon, 4th from > Moon. I would see the 9th lord and Sani also. > > > > > > > > This is the general approach, this would decide how person "take" > the sorrows... (The thing you mentioned that it depends on the > native), these bhavas and planets being good indicates he or she can > adjust himself or herself easily and thus become comparatively > happy. I would also see the position of 6th and 8th lords and their > strengths. > > > > > > > > Imp to keep in mind that there is nothing called 'ever happiness' > but it is a matter of the flow of time so periods and transits are > helpful. If the major period of life passes with a malefic maha > dasha, (Say 20 yrs Ve maha dasha) then it would effect the native's > life greatly, and looking him/her having an unhappy life. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > PS. To judge happiness, it is good to have an overall look to all > houses esp 1st, 7th, 2nd, 10th, 5th, 9th etc - if any of these are > seriously troubled then the happiness would be hampered surely - > most of the times unhappiness comes from these houses you know. > > > > > > > > Just my two cents :-))) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > > > > > Tanvir Chowdhury > > tanvir@s... > > http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > > > > > > > > - > > > > cynthianovak > > > > > > > > gjlist > > > > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:51 PM > > > > Re: [GJ] happiness > > > > > > > > Dear All > > I am always struck when someone places a message asking if they > will be > > happy. My first response is that being happy is up to the > individual, being > > miserable is also a choice. > > > > Still, the placement of the Moon by nakshatra or simply by aspect > or being > > hemmed in between difficult planets often indicates a person who > is not > > "happy." > > > > As astrologers or jyotishis, do you look at the chart and > answer, "you will > > never be happy." Do you look and ask "have you ever been happy?" > in the > > case of the latter, perhaps a SAturn transit is influencing at the > time. > > > > Or, do you help the client see how his or her perceptions (Moon) > influence > > happiness or misery? > > > > I guess what I am asking is a discussion on is this. Are > perceptions > > limited by the chart or can a person learn to work well within the > confines > > of difficult transits and aspects? I have seen folks who would > never > > consider themselve happy with very easy lives and folks who would > never > > presume that happiness is the responsibility of anyone but > themselves. > > > > Perhaps this is a cultural difference....or is it the difference > of age and > > wisdom? > > > > Hoping for discussion > > cynthia > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > : gjlist- > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Catch all the cricket action. 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Guest guest Posted May 23, 2003 Report Share Posted May 23, 2003 Thanks for telling me about the shakti yoga but could you also please tell me what would be the situation if moon is the lord of 9th as for scorpio lagna...would the yoga so produced still harm the dharma of the person. ThanksShreeya Dear Shreeya,Moon conjoined ketu brings down the mind it can cause a sense of void.Moon conjoined Rahu causes Shakti Yoga, This yoga gives lot of Shakti and can drive a person very to reach the goal. For Shakti Yoga to be benificial it should not aspect 9th house or it's lord else dharma gets destroyed. Opposite of Shakti Yoga is Shiva Yoga caused by Sun and Ketu combination. Shiva yoga give sacrificing tendency.Warm RegardsS. Prabhakaran--- In gjlist, Shreeya wrote:> Respected Prabhakaranji,> Thanks for replying to my question.I would also like to know what is the effect when moon conjoins ketu since we take moon also as a major factore counting in our happiness.Does this conjunction indicate spirituality because we take nodes to be malefics and conjoing with moon should harm the indications of moon but we see it in the charts of spiritual people.> Does moon and Rahu indicate materialistic tendencies?> Thanks & Regards,> SHreeya> > sanjayprabhakaran wrote:> Om Gurave Namah,> Dear Shreeya,> As already mentioned 4th house is for Happiness. True happiness is > when the soul i.e Atma is set free from desires and this is done by > the Ishta Devata. Ishta Devata is indicated by the 12th house from > Atma Kaaraka in Navamsa. True Happiness comes when Ishta devata > planets is related to the 4th house in Rasi Chart.> > Warm regards,> S. Prabhakaran> > > > gjlist, Shreeya wrote:> > Hi> > I would like to ask what if the moon is unaspected by any planet > then what is the situation regarding the mind of the person?but with > malefics like ketu ....how does ketu effect moon?why do u find the > moon ketu combination in the spiritual people like Chaitnya > Mahaprbhu?> > Thanks> > venusgaal> > > > Freedom wrote:> > > > > > Hare Rama Krisna> > > > The practice of Yoga, in all its facets, is the surest way to > attain happiness. > > > > > > > > Happiness is seen from the 4th house, its lord, and karaka (Moon). > If the fourth house, it's lord and Moon are happy then the person is > content and wears a smile on their face. The deity associated with > the lord of the fourth house can be worshipped for contentment. This > is important as Santosh (contentment) is one of the Yama and Niyama > that are the foundations of yoga taught by Patanjali. > > > > The Moon must be made strong/happy, as karaka for the fourth and > the manas. Beneficial aspects to the Moon must be strengthened via > mantra, gems and foods of the beneficial planets. Negative aspects > should be appeased through puja, prayer, mantra, dana. Then the Moon > itself must be strengthened. A powerful way to do this is to find > the deity associated with your Moon. For Papa/Purva karma we are > concerned with Bhagavan. For Sukha/Dukha (happiness/suffering) we > are concerned with the Mother. So the goddess associated with the > Moon must be correctly calculated and She is to be worshipped in the > proper way. See Prasna Marga, to begin with, for determining the > Goddess of the Moon and Guruji's Vedic Remedies for mantra to Her.> > > > Also insure the Lagnesh is well supported. > > > > Namah Sivaya> > > > Freedom> > > > > > > > > > Pavan [pk-vemuri@e...]> > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:55 AM> > To: gjlist> > Re: [GJ] happiness> > > > > > > > Happiness is a frame of mind. The strength of Moon (mind) helps us > to be happy. The placement of Moon shows the things (related to that > house) that make us happy. No one can be always happy, but if we > choose to be happy we can, by developing a correct frame of mind. As > explained in Bhagawadh Geeta - by becoming a "Sthita Pragna" (A > person unattached to the consequences of his Karma and who acts > according to the demands of his situation). Such a person can and > will be happy coz he realises that whatever is happening to him is > just a game of eternity reducing his past debts.> > > > > > > > An unhappy persons soul seeks happiness which makes it to take a > rebirth. A happy persons soul satisfied with the things this earth > and life has to offer moves towards emancipation. So, dont worry, be > happy.> > > > > > > > The favorable aspects from other planets on Moon indicate the > relations (ruled by those planets) who make us happy. The reverse > (unfavorable) is also true. To take charge of our happiness - we > could choose not to be attached to our karma.> > > > > > > > Moon is good between 8th tithi of both pakshas (Waxing). Moon is > favorable in 2, 5, 9, 10, 11 houses. Neutral in 1, 3, 8, 12 houses > and unfavorable in 4, 6, 7 houses unless these houses are not owned > by Mercury (who logically negates Moon always. sometimes logic > creates a mental abberation) and Saturn (who detaches the Mind from > the heart creating a tension between the right or wrong thing to do).> > > > > > > > This is my humble opinion on this topic.> > > > > > > > Pavan> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > gjlist > > > > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:05 AM> > > > Re: [GJ] happiness> > > > > > > > Hi Cynthia,> > > > I thought I would share my feelings with you :-)> > > > > > > > You are right that it depends a lot on he native itself.> > > > > > > > Astrologically, I would see the 4th house and Lord, Moon, 4th from > Moon. I would see the 9th lord and Sani also.> > > > > > > > This is the general approach, this would decide how person "take" > the sorrows... (The thing you mentioned that it depends on the > native), these bhavas and planets being good indicates he or she can > adjust himself or herself easily and thus become comparatively > happy. I would also see the position of 6th and 8th lords and their > strengths.> > > > > > > > Imp to keep in mind that there is nothing called 'ever happiness' > but it is a matter of the flow of time so periods and transits are > helpful. If the major period of life passes with a malefic maha > dasha, (Say 20 yrs Ve maha dasha) then it would effect the native's > life greatly, and looking him/her having an unhappy life.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > Tanvir> > > > > > > > PS. To judge happiness, it is good to have an overall look to all > houses esp 1st, 7th, 2nd, 10th, 5th, 9th etc - if any of these are > seriously troubled then the happiness would be hampered surely - > most of the times unhappiness comes from these houses you know.> > > > > > > > Just my two cents :-)))> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What can not happen, can never happen.> > Which is mine, is forever mine.> > > > > > > > Tanvir Chowdhury> > tanvir@s...> > http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir> > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > cynthianovak > > > > > > > > To: gjlist > > > > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:51 PM> > > > Re: [GJ] happiness> > > > > > > > Dear All> > I am always struck when someone places a message asking if they > will be> > happy. My first response is that being happy is up to the > individual, being> > miserable is also a choice.> > > > Still, the placement of the Moon by nakshatra or simply by aspect > or being> > hemmed in between difficult planets often indicates a person who > is not> > "happy."> > > > As astrologers or jyotishis, do you look at the chart and > answer, "you will> > never be happy." Do you look and ask "have you ever been happy?" > in the> > case of the latter, perhaps a SAturn transit is influencing at the > time.> > > > Or, do you help the client see how his or her perceptions (Moon) > influence> > happiness or misery?> > > > I guess what I am asking is a discussion on is this. Are > perceptions> > limited by the chart or can a person learn to work well within the > confines> > of difficult transits and aspects? I have seen folks who would > never> > consider themselve happy with very easy lives and folks who would > never> > presume that happiness is the responsibility of anyone but > themselves.> > > > Perhaps this is a cultural difference....or is it the difference > of age and> > wisdom?> > > > Hoping for discussion> > cynthia> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> > : gjlist-> > http://www.goravani.com> > > > > > Your use of is subject to the Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> > To , send an email to: gjlist-> > http://www.goravani.com> > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat> > : gjlist-> > http://www.goravani.com> > > > > > Your use of is subject to the Terms of > Service. > > > > Catch all the cricket action. 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