Guest guest Posted May 18, 2003 Report Share Posted May 18, 2003 Hi K and Pursottam, Appreciate the thoughts and insights. Thank you both. Yea, I'm fully aware of the importance of the Moon, it's house placement, phase, and sign its in, etc. For me, it represents the subconscious reason why the person approaches a jyotishi in the first place. It also can represent the issue at hand, depending on things at the time of inquiry. I'm also familiar with the Asc and its Lord, very often the sign rising at the time of the question being asked represents either the querent and/or the situation at hand. Again, the placement by house and sign of the Lagnesh, can and often will give clues into the matter, and it's placement can signify a positive or negative outcome. I am also aware of the approach of Prasna Tantra, but I don't thi9nk this seems to fit into the schema of Vedic Astrology overall. By the same token, I'm not sure of using the yogas, etc in quite the same way as one would in terms of a natal chart is the way to go either. I'll need to think more on this. At any rate, I have found that the approach discussed in Houck's "Hindu Astrology Lessons" seems to be a bit more, if I may, "authentic": the Kendras of the chart relates to an area of life. The Asc relates to the querent and all matters dealing with him/her overall; the 4th house relates to property and overall happiness; the 7th house relates both to relationships and questions dealing with illness; and the 10th house dealt with matters pertaining to career and changes of residence. The modalities of the signs, along with the Moon's movements, usually gave an accurate measure of quickly or slowly things would develop, if at all: Cardinal signs on the Angles, with the Moon in the same type of sign, usually suggested a quick outcome, good or bad; the reverse would be true if Fixed signs were on the Angles and/or the Moon; and lots of changes of the situation was likely to occur if Common, or Mutable signs were upon the Angles and/or the Moon. The Moon's passage through the house in question by transit could also trigger the outcome in terms of timing. I think Yogas can be helpful. For example, if someone approaches me on a day when a Chandra-Mangala Yoga was very strong, I would think that the person's question may have something to do with money and women, perhaps something a bit questionable in character? I also tend to rely a bit on the the days of the week (Vara); if a person comes to me on a Tuesday with a burning question, I am inclined to think that Mars has to be involved. Perhaps something going down in a southerly direction, etc, could be in the offing, etc. I just wanted to get some feedback from those in the forum who have some experience in these areas, and to clear up the muddle in my own mind. Thanks! Salaam, Mu --- Its Secret <kundalika wrote: > Hello Mu, > > As with everything else in astrology, Prasna chart > readings are > intuitive. I would ask you to follow the method that > you are most > comfortable with. > > Prasna relies a lot on the position of the Moon and > functional > lordships. You need to have a good grasp of things > like directions > specified by each sign, planets etc. Then look at > the dominant > influence in the chart, and how it affects the > current situation. > > Personally speaking, I do look at the aspects, yogas > in the chart, > but not in the same way that they may be applied in > a natal chart. A > Moon-Mars conjunction has a different connotation in > Prasna ( for > me ) than it does in natal chart. > > My sincere suggestion would be to first start > analysing the Prasna > chart for any queries that you have in mind, and > observe the dynamics. > > A lot of truths will unfold themselves, but its not > going to happen > if you don't start:) > > Best Wishes, > K. > > gjlist, Mu'Min Bey > <mumin_bey> wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > I was wondering if anyone out there could possibly > > help me with this. > > > > Prasna Jyotish, also known as Horary Astrology, > has a > > very long history in Vedic Astrology and India. > Many > > jyotishis, yesterday and today, often make use of > it > > in the place of natal charts to answer questions > and > > deal with situations. I am endeavouring to learn > this > > myself, and I do have a few books on the subject, > but > > for the most part, I am in the dark. I need > someone's > > assistance on this. > > > > Exactly how does one go about using Prasna? In the > > exact same ways one does a natal chart, that is to > > say, do the usual yogas and the like apply? Or are > > there more specific rules to observe? > > > > Raman, in his translation of Prasna Tantra, seems > to > > be of the belief that one has to apply differing > rules > > than that which would be the case for natal > charts. > > The anthology editied by the late Rick Houck, > Hindu > > Astrology Lessons, gives a totally different > method > > than that which is seen in Raman's work earlier > > mentioned. In the book, Light on Life, deFouw > > suggests, during a discussion on the birth chart > of > > Albert Einstein, that many of the usual rules that > > pertain to natal charts are to be applied to the > > horary chart as well. > > > > So I'm in something of a funk. Is there anyone out > > there, skilled in Prasna Jyotish, that can help me > > out? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Salaam, > > Mu > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > : > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > ===== Mu'Min M. Bey Western and Vedic Astrologer Priority Email: jedimu11 AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu 267-467-5158 Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in Astrological Thought Lives! Just send a blank email to panastroforum- The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2003 Report Share Posted May 19, 2003 Dear Mu I have a class on tape that was done on Prashna by Chakra Pani Illal. What I remember most is his emphasis that good planets on the angles bring good results. c - "Mu'Min Bey" <mumin_bey <gjlist> Sunday, May 18, 2003 4:40 PM [GJ] More Prasna Jyotish Ideas and Thoughts > Hi K and Pursottam, > > Appreciate the thoughts and insights. Thank you both. > > Yea, I'm fully aware of the importance of the Moon, > it's house placement, phase, and sign its in, etc. For > me, it represents the subconscious reason why the > person approaches a jyotishi in the first place. It > also can represent the issue at hand, depending on > things at the time of inquiry. I'm also familiar with > the Asc and its Lord, very often the sign rising at > the time of the question being asked represents either > the querent and/or the situation at hand. Again, the > placement by house and sign of the Lagnesh, can and > often will give clues into the matter, and it's > placement can signify a positive or negative outcome. > > I am also aware of the approach of Prasna Tantra, but > I don't thi9nk this seems to fit into the schema of > Vedic Astrology overall. By the same token, I'm not > sure of using the yogas, etc in quite the same way as > one would in terms of a natal chart is the way to go > either. I'll need to think more on this. > > At any rate, I have found that the approach discussed > in Houck's "Hindu Astrology Lessons" seems to be a bit > more, if I may, "authentic": the Kendras of the chart > relates to an area of life. The Asc relates to the > querent and all matters dealing with him/her overall; > the 4th house relates to property and overall > happiness; the 7th house relates both to relationships > and questions dealing with illness; and the 10th house > dealt with matters pertaining to career and changes of > residence. The modalities of the signs, along with the > Moon's movements, usually gave an accurate measure of > quickly or slowly things would develop, if at all: > > Cardinal signs on the Angles, with the Moon in the > same type of sign, usually suggested a quick outcome, > good or bad; the reverse would be true if Fixed signs > were on the Angles and/or the Moon; and lots of > changes of the situation was likely to occur if > Common, or Mutable signs were upon the Angles and/or > the Moon. The Moon's passage through the house in > question by transit could also trigger the outcome in > terms of timing. > > I think Yogas can be helpful. For example, if someone > approaches me on a day when a Chandra-Mangala Yoga was > very strong, I would think that the person's question > may have something to do with money and women, perhaps > something a bit questionable in character? I also tend > to rely a bit on the the days of the week (Vara); if a > person comes to me on a Tuesday with a burning > question, I am inclined to think that Mars has to be > involved. Perhaps something going down in a southerly > direction, etc, could be in the offing, etc. > > I just wanted to get some feedback from those in the > forum who have some experience in these areas, and to > clear up the muddle in my own mind. > > Thanks! > > Salaam, > Mu > --- Its Secret <kundalika wrote: > > Hello Mu, > > > > As with everything else in astrology, Prasna chart > > readings are > > intuitive. I would ask you to follow the method that > > you are most > > comfortable with. > > > > Prasna relies a lot on the position of the Moon and > > functional > > lordships. You need to have a good grasp of things > > like directions > > specified by each sign, planets etc. Then look at > > the dominant > > influence in the chart, and how it affects the > > current situation. > > > > Personally speaking, I do look at the aspects, yogas > > in the chart, > > but not in the same way that they may be applied in > > a natal chart. A > > Moon-Mars conjunction has a different connotation in > > Prasna ( for > > me ) than it does in natal chart. > > > > My sincere suggestion would be to first start > > analysing the Prasna > > chart for any queries that you have in mind, and > > observe the dynamics. > > > > A lot of truths will unfold themselves, but its not > > going to happen > > if you don't start:) > > > > Best Wishes, > > K. > > > > gjlist, Mu'Min Bey > > <mumin_bey> wrote: > > > Hello All, > > > > > > I was wondering if anyone out there could possibly > > > help me with this. > > > > > > Prasna Jyotish, also known as Horary Astrology, > > has a > > > very long history in Vedic Astrology and India. > > Many > > > jyotishis, yesterday and today, often make use of > > it > > > in the place of natal charts to answer questions > > and > > > deal with situations. I am endeavouring to learn > > this > > > myself, and I do have a few books on the subject, > > but > > > for the most part, I am in the dark. I need > > someone's > > > assistance on this. > > > > > > Exactly how does one go about using Prasna? In the > > > exact same ways one does a natal chart, that is to > > > say, do the usual yogas and the like apply? Or are > > > there more specific rules to observe? > > > > > > Raman, in his translation of Prasna Tantra, seems > > to > > > be of the belief that one has to apply differing > > rules > > > than that which would be the case for natal > > charts. > > > The anthology editied by the late Rick Houck, > > Hindu > > > Astrology Lessons, gives a totally different > > method > > > than that which is seen in Raman's work earlier > > > mentioned. In the book, Light on Life, deFouw > > > suggests, during a discussion on the birth chart > > of > > > Albert Einstein, that many of the usual rules that > > > pertain to natal charts are to be applied to the > > > horary chart as well. > > > > > > So I'm in something of a funk. Is there anyone out > > > there, skilled in Prasna Jyotish, that can help me > > > out? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Salaam, > > > Mu > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > > Sat > > : > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > ===== > Mu'Min M. Bey > Western and Vedic Astrologer > Priority Email: jedimu11 > AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu > 267-467-5158 > Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in Astrological Thought Lives! Just send a blank email to panastroforum- > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > http://search. > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2003 Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 Hello Mu, The Birth Chart and the Horary Chart are both holographic snapshots of an individual. The charts basically, try to capture the space/time intersect. The rules for reading both are identical. The advantage of the Horary Chart over Birth Chart is that it also reflects the effects of the Free Will exercised by an individual in their current incarnation. If the astrological subject is an older individual, Horary Chart will give a better perspective. Regards, Arun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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