Guest guest Posted September 2, 2001 Report Share Posted September 2, 2001 Dear Denis Very first thing it is not my effort to convince you about your system. I know that this is accurate. Now take the case of your father's chart. If the time is changed, his marriage in saturn sub period is correct. As for as the profession is concerned, it should be Mercury and Saturn. This can also give Computer repair also. It is also indicated he must have some subordinates. Now when he was managing team of engineers under him, so definitely he must be giving them training. ( can be consider a teachers job) Now a days I am too busy and under tension of more work load. So in hurry if I am not giving full details, it is my fault. In this system every thing is denoted by numerical value. so no body can menipulate the things. 1) your father was in service. He can not have his own business. 2) He was having good reputation. 3) He was having subordinates, working undser him. 4) He might be training those persons so a teachers job. 5) He was a hard worker. 6) His salary must be less compared to his work. ( this is relative statement) 7) He marry in the sub of Saturn, being lord of house E. I am unable to understand, where the rules of this system are not satisfying the results. About your chart, Why you have not got married till today? The numewrical values for 7th house in the worksheet gives less then 12 points for most of the planets. This is not coinsident. and no body can manupuate those points. If in this situation if you would have got married then it would have been against the rules. If there is any failure of the results, it is my fault not the system. If I am unable to get proper meaning It is my fault. Why your father was not in his own business? He would have not got success in any business, where he would have invested his money. It may be your preoccupied mind, who is not seeing the results, and unable to accept them. If you realy want to study this system, please keep aside all the knowedge you were doing till today. Consentrate on this, If you still find this system is useless, you can leave it. Now the death of your father, as per 6:17 pm time it may be in the sub of mercury at the age 63/64. and if the time 6:30 given by you it may be in the sub of Venus or Moon. Now dear, You are studying astrology for a long time, how many of the above 7 results would you have been able to give seeing the chart at a glance. If you realy feel that you can give similar results with good accuracy, with what ever the system you are using, I must congratulate you, and would sujjest you to develope your system. Till today I have predicted hundreds of correct results, using this system, with a pin point accuracy, now if any result comes correct it is not thrill for me, Similarly if any result goes wrong, I can not blame the system, I blame my self, that I have not done my work honestly. I have not adopted astrology as my profession, no earning from this science, on the contrary I spend about $200 per month, for this. For my prediction I do not charge in general, If any body is capable, some time I charge, and that amount I donate for charity. If any body asks about my charges, I tell him If my result comes true you may give money, and some gives upto $100, I donate all such collections for charity. Any how I would like a fair discussion, having some share of your knowedge, your long experience in the field. With your opposition, I take it granted that one day you will advocate this system. Namaste krushna , " DENIS LABOURE " <Laboure@W...> wrote: > Dear Krushna, > > He was very hard working. But he was not in a clerical job. He was at the > head of the local IBM section. He was managing a team of ingeneers who > repaired computers in the regional companies. He was himself making the > maintenance of the old big computers. > > To be sincere, my two small experiences in the ashtakavarga do not seem > satisfying... Now, the members of the list who use this ashatakavarga system > have my father's chart, my mother's chart, my own chart. So, it should be > easy to fix the right birthtime for any of these three charts. Could anybody > find something convincing about these charts (sex and number of children, > subperiod in which the others children were born, subperiod in which my > father died). It should be encouraging. > > Thanks a lot > Denis > > > krushanain@h... > Re: My second attempts > > Dear Denis, > If you change the time to 18:17 in the chart you have given > whole thing will change. Saturn again lord of E, but gives more > points. > Now with old time he should have his own business, or should > be in service with good post. > Chart with 18:17 gives that the person earned by aervice, > very hard work, less income, but was very much satisfied with his > work. He must be head and must have some subordinates. Very good > foresight. There is zero point in 2nd house, so much hereditary > property is not indicated. He must be having very good reputation (36 > points in 6th). > In both the charts Saturn is lord of E so it is eager to give > marriage. Now it is you to decide. Both the charts indicates teachers > job or Claricle job. ( Mercury+Saturn) > krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2001 Report Share Posted September 7, 2001 Dear Denis, " I am sorry about my rough English. I devote all my spare time to my > researches in astrology. I am interested by such a numerical method. I am interested in your work as I didn't find any book satisfying about ashtakavarga. And when a usually efficient method fails, I am interested to undertand the origin of the failure. " ***There is no book available on this system, The books on astakvarg are for away from the theme of this system. I am thinking to publish some books, but due to heavy work load, unable to devote more time. Hope in near future I may be able to do it. My father died in Venus period and Venus subperiod (8 April 98). So, you (and the 6.30 chart) are right. *** Thanks. > I am now studying the messages in the archives from the first. I am ready to > accept there are plenty of rules I have not understood. In this case, I have not clearly understood how the Saturn subperiod (with the 6.30 chart) could give mariage. Is its lordship on the 11th house enough, whatever the number of bindus acquired? ***The lords of D and E are eager to give the result, it is immaterial how many points they are getting. krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2003 Report Share Posted May 4, 2003 Dear Nicholas, Thank you for your reply. >His life is not going to be easy . The 7th Lord is Mars only 14 minutes >away from the Moon in the nakshatra Satabhisa . >Now from that he has got to be a really moody sort of guy . Your analysis is very correct. My father was forced to marry my mother by his (and her) parents, because I appeared on the scene as an accident. After the marriage, my father went mad, really a moody type of person, and so my mother left him for another man (see the retrograde Venus alongwith Mercury in 7th). Due to the marriage and later the divorce my father ended up in mental hospital. Because of this all I was raised by my parental grandparents. >It closely afflicts the Lagna Lord in the 7th so I am sure there are >bound to be problems there particularly as he was running Mercury MD >between 1981 and 1998. Yes, in that period the mental problems continued, though the Saturn period was the worst. In the Mercury maha-dasha he became completely dependent on his parents, and government social security, without employment. His income thus was quite low. >Sounds like he has a problem knowing who is friends and ememies are . Yes, fights with his friends and accepts flatteries from his enemies. That's true also. His health is also badly afflicted, see, 6th lord has parivartana yoga with 11th lord, while 11th lord is badhakesh. He has had couple of heart attacks, suffers from lungs etc. and still drinks and smokes due to bad association with friends. Honestly, I don't think he will be going on very long like this anymore. He also has very weak self-confidence and willpower. Yours, Dhira Krsna dasa, Jyotisha http://www.radhadesh.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2003 Report Share Posted May 4, 2003 Dear Dhira Krsna Prabhu Thanks A very interesting case study Nicholas > Dear Nicholas, > > Thank you for your reply. > > >His life is not going to be easy . The 7th Lord is Mars only 14 minutes > >away from the Moon in the nakshatra Satabhisa . > >Now from that he has got to be a really moody sort of guy . > > Your analysis is very correct. My father was forced to marry my mother by > his (and her) parents, because I appeared on the scene as an accident. > After the marriage, my father went mad, really a moody type of person, and > so my mother left him for another man (see the retrograde Venus alongwith > Mercury in 7th). Due to the marriage and later the divorce my father ended > up in mental hospital. Because of this all I was raised by my parental > grandparents. > > >It closely afflicts the Lagna Lord in the 7th so I am sure there are > >bound to be problems there particularly as he was running Mercury MD > >between 1981 and 1998. > > Yes, in that period the mental problems continued, though the Saturn > period was the worst. In the Mercury maha-dasha he became completely > dependent on his parents, and government social security, without > employment. His income thus was quite low. > > >Sounds like he has a problem knowing who is friends and ememies are . > > Yes, fights with his friends and accepts flatteries from his enemies. > That's true also. His health is also badly afflicted, see, 6th lord has > parivartana yoga with 11th lord, while 11th lord is badhakesh. He has had > couple of heart attacks, suffers from lungs etc. and still drinks and > smokes due to bad association with friends. Honestly, I don't think he > will be going on very long like this anymore. He also has very weak > self-confidence and willpower. > > Yours, > Dhira Krsna dasa, > Jyotisha > http://www.radhadesh.com > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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