Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 Hi Anna, There are scores of ways to look at all of these things, who will victimize who in the relationship and so on. I think it all comes down to assessing the basics in the chart and applying commonsense. For example, you see in the chart of a male, the Moon placed in the 8th/Aries, aspected by both Saturn and Rahu. Venus is debilitated, and asepcted by Mars, let's say its most problematic aspect, its 8th house aspect. The 7th lord is placed in a Trik house, giving rise to what is known as Dushkriti Yoga; this recurs from both the Moon and Venus, let's say. The Moon in the Navamsa is again challenged in some way, and Venus is Vargottma in the worst way, as it again is debilitated. Let's say also that Kuja Dosha is seen in this chart, the Navamsa as well, a very strong one. You see the Dasa of Mars coming up, keeping mind its Sandhi/Sama Dasa points, as well as the sub periods of Saturn, Rahu, Moon and Venus. All of this cannot look good in terms of relationships - let's assume that this guy has yet to turn age 30, too. Now, let's say that he's hooked up with a woman that has, among other things, no KD in either the Rasi or Navamsa charts. Her Asc is aspected by Saturn and the Lagnesh is weakly placed, both of these factors suggesting strongly a weak personality and overall strength of character. We can reasonably assume then, that this woman may indeed be on the receiving end of attacks and the like from this man. It is something to look out for. I have in my files the chart of a woman who has Cancer Asc with the Moon in the 7th and Venus in the 1st. No doubt, as such a combination would suggest, she is beautiful, but there are some serious relationship flies in the ointment. Note that 7th lord Saturn is in the 2nd house with Mars. From the Moon, this gives rise to a serious case of Kuja Dosha, as Mars is in the 8th house from the Moon and closely conjunct Saturn. In that both of these planets are in the 2nd from both the Asc and Venus, it suggests that there maybe a level of sexual dissatisfaction with the men she has hooked up with. Saturn's role here in the 2nd/8th houses can also suggest USING SEX in a strategic way, for leverage for gain in same way. This woman is an adult model, exotic dancer, and porn actress. Note also, how the Lords of the 1-7 axis are 6-8 from each other; this suggests strongly that this woman may se men as enemies in some way; there is a good bit of insecurity and the like here, clearly linked to the early home life (2nd house) and Father (9th lord Jupiter in the 12th with 12th lord Mercury and 2nd lord Sun). This woman's father left her early on in life, and has remained distant. Note that in the Navamsa, Mars is in the Cancer Asc, again bringing into focus Kuja Dosha. And, this placement of Mars definitely brings Martian qualities of the more problematic type; she be seen as bossy, demanding, even too pushy, for many men. It goes without saying that, without much introspection and understanding of her past, and, without linking her with a man who at the very least had a very strong Venus, things would be very difficult indeed for her. I hope this can helps along in our discussion a bit. Salaam, Mu --- "N.Anna" <anmar wrote: > Dear Mu, > > Thanks for the post and nicely explained connection > btw Kuja Dosha and > 4thH. > That's maybe the clue wrt /intensity of/ KD > real-life manifestations. > We find various opinions on KD : one say KD/Mangalic > person will be > victimized by partner not having KD, another /as in > this case/ KD native > will be a perpetrator. > What's your view on this? /what would be 2nd major > factor for either of two- > sure we can find the link, same 'theme', btw. victim > and perpetrator in each > case, but I guess that there must be another factor > for 'leaning' twd. > one of these poles/ > Thanks, > Anna > Thanks, > Anna ===== Mu'Min M. Bey Western and Vedic Astrologer Priority Email: jedimu11 AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu 267-467-5158 Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in Astrological Thought Lives! Just send a blank email to panastroforum- The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 Dear Mu, This is an excellent lesson on Jyotish- so articulate, elloquent, 'vibrant' text indeed! then your text on retrograde planets and their 'hidden agenda' /your term/ and your previous posts- my first idea was that you should publish your lucid observations, so that more students and jyotishi alike, can benefit from your talent and experience. Thanks for your posts, Anna - "Mu'Min Bey" <mumin_bey <gjlist> Sunday, April 27, 2003 10:28 AM [GJ] Kuja Dosha and Other Problematic Things, to Anna > Hi Anna, > > There are scores of ways to look at all of these > things, who will victimize who in the relationship and > so on. I think it all comes down to assessing the > basics in the chart and applying commonsense. > > For example, you see in the chart of a male, the Moon > placed in the 8th/Aries, aspected by both Saturn and > Rahu. Venus is debilitated, and asepcted by Mars, > let's say its most problematic aspect, its 8th house > aspect. > > The 7th lord is placed in a Trik house, giving rise to > what is known as Dushkriti Yoga; this recurs from both > the Moon and Venus, let's say. > > The Moon in the Navamsa is again challenged in some > way, and Venus is Vargottma in the worst way, as it > again is debilitated. Let's say also that Kuja Dosha > is seen in this chart, the Navamsa as well, a very > strong one. > > You see the Dasa of Mars coming up, keeping mind its > Sandhi/Sama Dasa points, as well as the sub periods of > Saturn, Rahu, Moon and Venus. All of this cannot look > good in terms of relationships - let's assume that > this guy has yet to turn age 30, too. > > Now, let's say that he's hooked up with a woman that > has, among other things, no KD in either the Rasi or > Navamsa charts. Her Asc is aspected by Saturn and the > Lagnesh is weakly placed, both of these factors > suggesting strongly a weak personality and overall > strength of character. We can reasonably assume then, > that this woman may indeed be on the receiving end of > attacks and the like from this man. It is something to > look out for. > > I have in my files the chart of a woman who has Cancer > Asc with the Moon in the 7th and Venus in the 1st. No > doubt, as such a combination would suggest, she is > beautiful, but there are some serious relationship > flies in the ointment. Note that 7th lord Saturn is in > the 2nd house with Mars. From the Moon, this gives > rise to a serious case of Kuja Dosha, as Mars is in > the 8th house from the Moon and closely conjunct > Saturn. In that both of these planets are in the 2nd > from both the Asc and Venus, it suggests that there > maybe a level of sexual dissatisfaction with the men > she has hooked up with. Saturn's role here in the > 2nd/8th houses can also suggest USING SEX in a > strategic way, for leverage for gain in same way. This > woman is an adult model, exotic dancer, and porn > actress. > > Note also, how the Lords of the 1-7 axis are 6-8 from > each other; this suggests strongly that this woman may > se men as enemies in some way; there is a good bit of > insecurity and the like here, clearly linked to the > early home life (2nd house) and Father (9th lord > Jupiter in the 12th with 12th lord Mercury and 2nd > lord Sun). This woman's father left her early on in > life, and has remained distant. > > Note that in the Navamsa, Mars is in the Cancer Asc, > again bringing into focus Kuja Dosha. And, this > placement of Mars definitely brings Martian qualities > of the more problematic type; she be seen as bossy, > demanding, even too pushy, for many men. > > It goes without saying that, without much > introspection and understanding of her past, and, > without linking her with a man who at the very least > had a very strong Venus, things would be very > difficult indeed for her. > > I hope this can helps along in our discussion a bit. > > Salaam, > Mu > --- "N.Anna" <anmar wrote: > > Dear Mu, > > > > Thanks for the post and nicely explained connection > > btw Kuja Dosha and > > 4thH. > > That's maybe the clue wrt /intensity of/ KD > > real-life manifestations. > > We find various opinions on KD : one say KD/Mangalic > > person will be > > victimized by partner not having KD, another /as in > > this case/ KD native > > will be a perpetrator. > > What's your view on this? /what would be 2nd major > > factor for either of two- > > sure we can find the link, same 'theme', btw. victim > > and perpetrator in each > > case, but I guess that there must be another factor > > for 'leaning' twd. > > one of these poles/ > > Thanks, > > Anna > > Thanks, > > Anna > > > ===== > Mu'Min M. Bey > Western and Vedic Astrologer > Priority Email: jedimu11 > AOL IM Screen Name: JediMu > 267-467-5158 > Join the Pan Astrological Forum, Where Freedom in Astrological Thought Lives! Just send a blank email to panastroforum- > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > http://search. > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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