May 8, Clarification Mars-Jupiter T-Square

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Dear Anna:

 

Yes, your reply does help: I think I have leapt light years in my

understanding with these replies from you, Trish, and Sateesh. I

tend to look (Western overview-house/sign) at the Grand Cross,

and it DOES impact H-1-7 axis and H-4-10 axis, but by degree, it

"looks like" only on May 8, Mars-Jupiter at 15 degrees exactly

squares [CLARIFICATION]: NT Moon (Aries), AND TR MARS

ALSO OPPOSES TR MOON IN CANCER AND TR JUPITER at 15

degrees, which is a T-square, TO NATAL MOON.

 

With the information Trish supplied, I'm intuitively guided to seek

the "missing piece" of this T-square in H-4. It "sounds like" it

could be a change of residence on the surface and possibly a

deep inner change underneath the surface, possibly more

emotional since it is a Moon aspect, but with Mars sub-dasa, it

could also be action-oriented externally—either way this will

keep "mind" busy for awhile.

 

Thanks to you too for another "missing piece of the puzzle."

 

Satyam Shivam Sundaram

 

Janna

 

http://seven_directions.tripod.com

gjlist, "N." <anmar@a...> wrote:

> Dear Janna,

> Trish explained the situation very well.

> I'd just emphasize that you always keep in mind configuaration

and placements you have in YOUR NT chart- 'grand cross' that

transiting planets form with your natal planets will activate the

area/s/ of life as Trish explained- on a bigger scale than it would

be the case when only tr. planets form confuguration.

>

> As per your situation, Full Moon will activate 4/10 and 1/7axes

by itself- Jupiter and mars /long term tr/ would do the same-

however tr. jupiter over your first house planets, and aspect with

natal Moon, promises protection, good outcome, though it may

be upsetting at the time /tr mars your NATAL MOON/ - whenever

natal configuation, placements are activated that's the most

significant.

> For longer impact see what's going on with your progression at

the moment, or which period and sub-p you are running- or

better yet, BOTH. in other words, which ALREADY existing

promisses will be 'triggered by particular configuration- that will

set up the the stage for all manifestations that can be expected.

>

> Hope this helps.

> Anna

>

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> bharani@a...

> gjlist

> Saturday, April 12, 2003 1:30 PM

> Re: [GJ] Re:Mars in Capricorn & April 16 Libra Full

Moon

>

>

> Dear Janna,

>

> I'm usually a lurker on the list but thought I would throw my

two cents in. I have a fair amount of experience in Western and

more limited understanding of jyotish, and have always had a

keen interest in the formations you asked about.

>

> Mars in Cap/Jupiter in Cancer: In general terms, both are

exalted, they are friends and in mutual aspect. In Western this

might be viewed as an energizing or even "lucky" aspect (there

was some type of Mars/Jupiter aspect going on in OJ's chart

when he was acquitted); however, it is worth noting that this

opposition/mutual aspect is by sign only at this point as there is

a large separation by degree (orb) right now. Mars and Jupiter

will not be exactly opposite one another until May 8th. With

respect to your chart, look at the functional status of Mars

(yogakaraka) and Jupiter (ruler of 6th and 9th so somewhat

mixed) and where each is transiting precisely relative to your first

house planets (quite a mixture, there) or 10th house moon.

Whichever of your planets is aspected most closely by Mars or

Jupiter (up to about a 3 degree orb) would be the ones to watch

first, in my mind.

>

> Don't forget that the full moon means that the Sun (exalted

right now) is also a player in your 10th -- exactly opposite the

transiting Full Moon. By degree, there is an almost exact

T-square among transiting Sun/Moon/Mars, with the "empty

space" or "outlet" (the exact point that would make for a Grand

Cross were it inhabited by a transiting planet) placed over your

lagna. (My understanding of T-squares is that they represent

particular challenges or stresses and that the unoccupied

kendra can become the focus or outlet for that activity or

pressure -- with the nature of the issue depending on the nature

of the planets and houses involved.) While transiting Jupiter

could be considered as filling that void somewhat as it

participates in a Grand Cross by SIGN, from a Western

perspective Jupiter would be considered out of orb due to its

degree placement, so that there is still a T-square effect to some

extent. Another major factor to consider is how closely you r

natal Moon is aspected by the Sun/Moon/Mars or (from a

Western perspective only) is squared by transiting Jupiter.

(Obviously, from a vedic perspective, Jupiter would not cast an

aspect onto your tenth house Moon.)

>

> While I do think there is some mixing of apples and oranges

going on here (i.e., mixing aspects of transiting planets with

aspects of natal planets), that doesn't mean that looking at these

formations is not worthwhile -- it just creates a third type of

planetary formation (comprised of transiting to natal planets) to

consider. Just keep in mind that their impact will depend on

which aspects are more personal to you (rather than the general

population) because they "hit" on one of your natal planets

closely by degree or because you are running their dasa, etc.

>

> In your chart, all this activity falls across the 1/7 (you v.

significant others) axis and 4/10 (home-family v. public-career)

axis. I think the obvious interpretation just looking at houses

involved (without knowing your other natal placements, degrees

of all those 1st house planets, dasa you are running, etc.) is that

focus is being brought to bear on these areas of your life; that

there may be some stresses or balancing act going on among

them, possibly straining your health or detracting from your

sense of self (1st house). In particular, the effect of the Libra full

moon would be to illuminate 4th house matters relative to the

other three houses also being affected.

>

> Don't let the concepts of "Grand Cross" or "T-Square" scare

you in and of themselves. (After all, with a Grand Cross, there is

some balance with all the elements -- earth, water, fire and air

involved. With a T-square, always note which element is

"missing" and see if it's absence resonates with you in any way.)

While these formations can be quite challenging, they can also

mark times of great achievement or opportunity. Again, you have

to look at the nature and particular combination of planets

involved -- of these transiting planets, they are all from a mutually

"friendly" group and all relatively friendly to a Cancer ascendant

person. Also, they are in "cardinal" signs rather than "fixed"

signs like Scorpio, Leo, etc. This says to me that any events

these aspects prompt could happen fast or are more likely to

generate activity toward resolution -- though there could be some

heat involved -- than, say, if fixed signs were involved and, du e to

inflexible attitudes or positions, matters might get strained to a

breaking point.

>

> That said, and not knowing how Saturn operates in your chart,

I would be mindful of when transiting Mars directly opposes your

natal lst house Saturn and/or Mercury as either or those

oppositions might create some tension or frustration or

otherwise be somewhat problematic (tiredness, etc.).

>

> I hope some of this is helpful.

>

> Regards,

>

> Trish Francis

>

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

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Good luck with the transits!

Trish