Guest guest Posted March 17, 2003 Report Share Posted March 17, 2003 Om Hoom Ram Chaitanyayai Namah Dear Sanjay Ji, Could you help to understands the reasons of the schizophrenia for the lady, which chart is below? I did think, because she has KSY, but as I understood from the discussion list, if we have any planet with Ke (conjunction), we can't apply this Yoga to native. She was very spiritual and looked for spiritual progress before her illness, but now she doesn't believe to anything. She is really sick from 1989 and use everyday western medication. What could you recommend to her? If she can't do something by herself, may your recommend something for her husband? With the best wishes, Youry PS She wears Kavach now, but as seems to me, that it gives not so much results. Sat Jan 25,1964 08:49:22 Place of birth : Kyiv Kyiv Ukraine Long.: 30E31 00 Lat.: 50N26 00 Timezone : -3.00 Daylightsaving : 0.00 Sunrise at : Fri Jan 24,1964 08:48:30 Ayanamsh: 23:20:13 Rashi Kundali Navamsa (spouse) Range 08:47:03 to 08:56:09 ‚€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ƒ ‚€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ƒ \ Sk / \ Ke Bu / \ Ma / \ Ra / \ / \ / \ / \ / Gu \ 11/Sa Ma Sy \ 9 / \ 2 / Sy \ 12/ 12/ \ 8 3 / \ 11 / \ / \ / \ / \ Sk / \ 10 / \ / Ch \ 1 / \ / 1 \ / 7 \ / 4 \ / 10 \ \ / \ / \ / \ Gu / \ / 4 \ / \ / 7 \ / Ch \ / \ / Bu \ / \ / 2 \ / 6 5 \ / 9 / 3 \ / 5 \ / 6 \ / 8 \ /Ra \ / \ /Ke Sa \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ „€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€… „€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€… Graha Degree Rashi Dignity Avasthas Shad Bal Nakshatra Pada/Lord Lagna 10:50:52 Makara Sravana (1/Ch) Surya 10:56:09 Makara GrtEn Slp Old low 0.99 Sravana (1/Ch) Chandr 20:55:28 Vrishab Exalt Al Yth rad.lt 1.65 Rohini (4/Ch) Mangal 16:03:41 Makara Exalt Al Ado rad.lt Cb 1.31 Sravana (2/Ch) Budha 16:19:26 Dhanu Frnd Drm Ado serene 1.05 Poorvashadh(1/Sk) Guru 20:20:01 Meena Own Al Yth health 1.00 Revati (2/Bu) Sukra 16:34:09 Kumbha GrtFr Drm Ado happy 1.35 Sathabhisha(3/Ra) Sani 29:43:32 Makara Own Al Inf health 1.54 Dhanishta (2/Ma) Rahu 17:44:42 Mithuna Moolt Al Ado health Arudra (4/Ra) Ketu 17:44:42 Dhanu Moolt Al Ado health Poorvashadh(2/Sk) Wed, 16 Mar 1994 13:00:28 +0530 Sanjay Rath <vyasa Re: schizophrenia Om Gurave Namah Dear Robyn Try 2:52' PM..The Prasna indicated euther Libra or Aries Lagna, and I felt Aries would be the right one. The Tapaswi Yoga in the Rasi chart makes one appear as a recluse. Other indications are that such seclusion is self imposed as he is very independant in his thinking, rather unpredictable and the schizophrenia is superficial caused due to chronic depression resulting from self imposed seclusion. I don't think any of the parents exhibits this as much as him although there is some indication of the mother being a serious peron, preferring seclusion and this gene seems to have grown more in him. He does seem to have an aristrocratic background, but that also troubles him. The only way to get over the problem is to start playing some musical instrument...that is the ONLY way out. Water navamsa...not string instruments thats fire navamsa, not drums thats earth navamsa...any other types..flute, wind pipes are air navamsa..something soft..harmoniam or violin maybe..perhaps someone can suggest this. Did this man ever learn any technical skill, like say engineering or some machine? He has every reason to fear that he will go to the Devil after death - AK Rahu conjoins the Sun in Lagnamsa/Karakamsa. But do tell him that there is no hell. Venus nees to be propitiated and his wife is very good for him. With best regards, Sanjay Rath __________ Mail: H-5 B.J.B. Nagar, Bhubaneswar, OR 751014, India Web: http://srath.com SJC Web: http://.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2003 Report Share Posted March 17, 2003 Om Gurave NamahDear Youry (& Anna also) There is a classic combination for Matibhramana Yoga and that occurs if Saturn and Mars have a strong say on the ascendant without any relieving factors. This classic combination is present in the chart given by you. Just like the chart posted by Robyn, we find the ascendant with Saturn in it afflicted by Mars (or Ketu previous case). Thus you can clearly see that both the cases are of schiezophrenia, but the main cause is depression, chronic depression caused by Saturn. The solution to the problem caused by Saturn can be overcome by the Sun. Look for what the Sun is indicating. In the previous case, the Sun conjoined AK in Navamsa Lagna indicating an eclipse and the way to take the Sun out of such an eclipse is to worship Dakshinamurti Shiva. However, I used a more realistic approach and advised MUSIC therapy as the Sun in trines to Navamsa Lagna gets activated with music, especially good beats. Slow beat music can be regressive. In this case also the Sun is in Navamsa Lagna and the same prescription applies - MUSIC THERAPY. Advise the use of good music. Gift them a copy of the Mrityunjaya Mantra cassette where this is recited 108 times and let them just relax and listen to it in the evening..Evening please as this is when the lunar nodes strike...especially on the full Moon. At the feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha,I remain,Sanjay RathMail: 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, IndiaTel: +91-11-2713201; SJC Web pages: http://.org; Personal Web: http://srath.com - Youry gjlist Monday, March 17, 2003 2:11 PM [GJ] Re: Re: schizophrenia - To Sanjay Ji Om Hoom Ram Chaitanyayai Namah Dear Sanjay Ji, Could you help to understands the reasons of the schizophrenia for the lady, which chart is below? I did think, because she has KSY, but as I understood from the discussion list, if we have any planet with Ke (conjunction), we can't apply this Yoga to native. She was very spiritual and looked for spiritual progress before her illness, but now she doesn't believe to anything. She is really sick from 1989 and use everyday western medication. What could you recommend to her? If she can't do something by herself, may your recommend something for her husband?With the best wishes, Youry PS She wears Kavach now, but as seems to me, that it gives not so much results.Sat Jan 25,1964 08:49:22 Place of birth : Kyiv Kyiv Ukraine Long.: 30E31 00 Lat.: 50N26 00 Timezone : -3.00 Daylightsaving : 0.00 Sunrise at : Fri Jan 24,1964 08:48:30 Ayanamsh: 23:20:13 Rashi Kundali Navamsa (spouse) Range 08:47:03 to 08:56:09 ‚€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ƒ ‚€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ƒ \ Sk / \ Ke Bu / \ Ma / \ Ra / \ / \ / \ / \ / Gu \ 11/Sa Ma Sy \ 9 / \ 2 / Sy \ 12/ 12/ \ 8 3 / \ 11 / \ / \ / \ / \ Sk / \ 10 / \ / Ch \ 1 / \ / 1 \ / 7 \ / 4 \ / 10 \ \ / \ / \ / \ Gu / \ / 4 \ / \ / 7 \ / Ch \ / \ / Bu \ / \ / 2 \ / 6 5 \ / 9 / 3 \ / 5 \ / 6 \ / 8 \ /Ra \ / \ /Ke Sa \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ „€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€… „€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€… Graha Degree Rashi Dignity Avasthas Shad Bal Nakshatra Pada/Lord Lagna 10:50:52 Makara Sravana (1/Ch) Surya 10:56:09 Makara GrtEn Slp Old low 0.99 Sravana (1/Ch) Chandr 20:55:28 Vrishab Exalt Al Yth rad.lt 1.65 Rohini (4/Ch) Mangal 16:03:41 Makara Exalt Al Ado rad.lt Cb 1.31 Sravana (2/Ch) Budha 16:19:26 Dhanu Frnd Drm Ado serene 1.05 Poorvashadh(1/Sk) Guru 20:20:01 Meena Own Al Yth health 1.00 Revati (2/Bu) Sukra 16:34:09 Kumbha GrtFr Drm Ado happy 1.35 Sathabhisha(3/Ra) Sani 29:43:32 Makara Own Al Inf health 1.54 Dhanishta (2/Ma) Rahu 17:44:42 Mithuna Moolt Al Ado health Arudra (4/Ra) Ketu 17:44:42 Dhanu Moolt Al Ado health Poorvashadh(2/Sk) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 13:00:28 +0530 Sanjay Rath <vyasa (AT) (DOT) org>Re: schizophreniaOm Gurave NamahDear RobynTry 2:52' PM..The Prasna indicated euther Libra or Aries Lagna, and I felt Aries would be the right one. The Tapaswi Yoga in the Rasi chart makes one appear as a recluse. Other indications are that such seclusion is self imposed as he is very independant in his thinking, rather unpredictable and the schizophrenia is superficial caused due to chronic depression resulting from self imposed seclusion.I don't think any of the parents exhibits this as much as him although there is some indication of the mother being a serious peron, preferring seclusion and this gene seems to have grown more in him.He does seem to have an aristrocratic background, but that also troubles him. The only way to get over the problem is to start playing some musical instrument...that is the ONLY way out. Water navamsa...not string instruments thats fire navamsa, not drums thats earth navamsa...any other types..flute, wind pipes are air navamsa..something soft..harmoniam or violin maybe..perhaps someone can suggest this.Did this man ever learn any technical skill, like say engineering or some machine?He has every reason to fear that he will go to the Devil after death - AK Rahu conjoins the Sun in Lagnamsa/Karakamsa. But do tell him that there is no hell. Venus nees to be propitiated and his wife is very good for him.With best regards,Sanjay Rath__________Mail: H-5 B.J.B. Nagar, Bhubaneswar, OR 751014, IndiaWeb: http://srath.com SJC Web: http://.orgOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.com Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2003 Report Share Posted March 17, 2003 Dear Sanjay, This explains a lot- and is of far-reaching consenquence: to make us make an effort to find ''appropriate'' /realistic as you said/ remedies for each particular case- this is what I've been searching for since I started studying Jyotish approach you represent. Sure, it's easier to pull readily available mantras from the hat, but not always appropriate. I see your standing differently now. Thanks a lot. My respect goes to you. Anna - Sanjay Rath gjlist Monday, March 17, 2003 11:56 AM Re: [GJ] Re: Re: schizophrenia - To Sanjay Ji Om Gurave NamahDear Youry (& Anna also) There is a classic combination for Matibhramana Yoga and that occurs if Saturn and Mars have a strong say on the ascendant without any relieving factors. This classic combination is present in the chart given by you. Just like the chart posted by Robyn, we find the ascendant with Saturn in it afflicted by Mars (or Ketu previous case). Thus you can clearly see that both the cases are of schiezophrenia, but the main cause is depression, chronic depression caused by Saturn. The solution to the problem caused by Saturn can be overcome by the Sun. Look for what the Sun is indicating. In the previous case, the Sun conjoined AK in Navamsa Lagna indicating an eclipse and the way to take the Sun out of such an eclipse is to worship Dakshinamurti Shiva. However, I used a more realistic approach and advised MUSIC therapy as the Sun in trines to Navamsa Lagna gets activated with music, especially good beats. Slow beat music can be regressive. In this case also the Sun is in Navamsa Lagna and the same prescription applies - MUSIC THERAPY. Advise the use of good music. Gift them a copy of the Mrityunjaya Mantra cassette where this is recited 108 times and let them just relax and listen to it in the evening..Evening please as this is when the lunar nodes strike...especially on the full Moon. At the feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha,I remain,Sanjay RathMail: 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, IndiaTel: +91-11-2713201; SJC Web pages: http://.org; Personal Web: http://srath.com - Youry gjlist Monday, March 17, 2003 2:11 PM [GJ] Re: Re: schizophrenia - To Sanjay Ji Om Hoom Ram Chaitanyayai Namah Dear Sanjay Ji, Could you help to understands the reasons of the schizophrenia for the lady, which chart is below? I did think, because she has KSY, but as I understood from the discussion list, if we have any planet with Ke (conjunction), we can't apply this Yoga to native. She was very spiritual and looked for spiritual progress before her illness, but now she doesn't believe to anything. She is really sick from 1989 and use everyday western medication. What could you recommend to her? If she can't do something by herself, may your recommend something for her husband?With the best wishes, Youry PS She wears Kavach now, but as seems to me, that it gives not so much results.Sat Jan 25,1964 08:49:22 Place of birth : Kyiv Kyiv Ukraine Long.: 30E31 00 Lat.: 50N26 00 Timezone : -3.00 Daylightsaving : 0.00 Sunrise at : Fri Jan 24,1964 08:48:30 Ayanamsh: 23:20:13 Rashi Kundali Navamsa (spouse) Range 08:47:03 to 08:56:09 ‚€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ƒ ‚€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ƒ \ Sk / \ Ke Bu / \ Ma / \ Ra / \ / \ / \ / \ / Gu \ 11/Sa Ma Sy \ 9 / \ 2 / Sy \ 12/ 12/ \ 8 3 / \ 11 / \ / \ / \ / \ Sk / \ 10 / \ / Ch \ 1 / \ / 1 \ / 7 \ / 4 \ / 10 \ \ / \ / \ / \ Gu / \ / 4 \ / \ / 7 \ / Ch \ / \ / Bu \ / \ / 2 \ / 6 5 \ / 9 / 3 \ / 5 \ / 6 \ / 8 \ /Ra \ / \ /Ke Sa \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ „€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€… „€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€… Graha Degree Rashi Dignity Avasthas Shad Bal Nakshatra Pada/Lord Lagna 10:50:52 Makara Sravana (1/Ch) Surya 10:56:09 Makara GrtEn Slp Old low 0.99 Sravana (1/Ch) Chandr 20:55:28 Vrishab Exalt Al Yth rad.lt 1.65 Rohini (4/Ch) Mangal 16:03:41 Makara Exalt Al Ado rad.lt Cb 1.31 Sravana (2/Ch) Budha 16:19:26 Dhanu Frnd Drm Ado serene 1.05 Poorvashadh(1/Sk) Guru 20:20:01 Meena Own Al Yth health 1.00 Revati (2/Bu) Sukra 16:34:09 Kumbha GrtFr Drm Ado happy 1.35 Sathabhisha(3/Ra) Sani 29:43:32 Makara Own Al Inf health 1.54 Dhanishta (2/Ma) Rahu 17:44:42 Mithuna Moolt Al Ado health Arudra (4/Ra) Ketu 17:44:42 Dhanu Moolt Al Ado health Poorvashadh(2/Sk) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 13:00:28 +0530 Sanjay Rath <vyasa (AT) (DOT) org>Re: schizophreniaOm Gurave NamahDear RobynTry 2:52' PM..The Prasna indicated euther Libra or Aries Lagna, and I felt Aries would be the right one. The Tapaswi Yoga in the Rasi chart makes one appear as a recluse. Other indications are that such seclusion is self imposed as he is very independant in his thinking, rather unpredictable and the schizophrenia is superficial caused due to chronic depression resulting from self imposed seclusion.I don't think any of the parents exhibits this as much as him although there is some indication of the mother being a serious peron, preferring seclusion and this gene seems to have grown more in him.He does seem to have an aristrocratic background, but that also troubles him. The only way to get over the problem is to start playing some musical instrument...that is the ONLY way out. Water navamsa...not string instruments thats fire navamsa, not drums thats earth navamsa...any other types..flute, wind pipes are air navamsa..something soft..harmoniam or violin maybe..perhaps someone can suggest this.Did this man ever learn any technical skill, like say engineering or some machine?He has every reason to fear that he will go to the Devil after death - AK Rahu conjoins the Sun in Lagnamsa/Karakamsa. But do tell him that there is no hell. Venus nees to be propitiated and his wife is very good for him.With best regards,Sanjay Rath__________Mail: H-5 B.J.B. Nagar, Bhubaneswar, OR 751014, IndiaWeb: http://srath.com SJC Web: http://.orgOm Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.com Your use of is subject to Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2003 Report Share Posted March 17, 2003 Om Hoom Ram Chaitanyayai Namah Dear Sanjay Ji, Thanks a lot for your explanation! Western doctors said, she probably will have schizophrenia attack again. She has Sade Sati now and she had schizophrenia attack during debilitated retrograde Sa transits of 12 house from the Moon (and Ke conjoined of Ma in La). Now she has end of middle part of Sade Sati. May we say, she had problems during Sade Sati and probably she will have crises on the next Sade Sati during retrograde Sa debilitation and when Ke conjoint of Ma in La? May we recommend to wear Ruby or artificial Ruby about 5 carats for her? (to improve the Sun quality) Could you advise where could she get a Mrityunjaya Mantra cassette? With the best wishes, Youry Jai Guru Dev Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:26:50 +0530 "Sanjay Rath" <vyasa Re: Re: Re: schizophrenia - To Sanjay Ji Om Gurave Namah Dear Youry (& Anna also) There is a classic combination for Matibhramana Yoga and that occurs if Saturn and Mars have a strong say on the ascendant without any relieving factors. This classic combination is present in the chart given by you. Just like the chart posted by Robyn, we find the ascendant with Saturn in it afflicted by Mars (or Ketu previous case). Thus you can clearly see that both the cases are of schiezophrenia, but the main cause is depression, chronic depression caused by Saturn. The solution to the problem caused by Saturn can be overcome by the Sun. Look for what the Sun is indicating. In the previous case, the Sun conjoined AK in Navamsa Lagna indicating an eclipse and the way to take the Sun out of such an eclipse is to worship Dakshinamurti Shiva. However, I used a more realistic approach and advised MUSIC therapy as the Sun in trines to Navamsa Lagna gets activated with music, especially good beats. Slow beat music can be regressive. In this case also the Sun is in Navamsa Lagna and the same prescription applies - MUSIC THERAPY. Advise the use of good music. Gift them a copy of the Mrityunjaya Mantra cassette where this is recited 108 times and let them just relax and listen to it in the evening..Evening please as this is when the lunar nodes strike...especially on the full Moon. At the feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha, I remain, Sanjay Rath Mail: 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, India Tel: +91-11-2713201; SJC Web pages: http://.org; Personal Web: http://srath.com - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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