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Dear Zoran

Here are two from my files. I won't give the full data but will offer the

date and the lagna.

 

26 March 1951 Lagna 5 LE

It will not be a surprise that this person has been well supported

financially from father. She is very kind and sincere yet has struggled

with depression for many years.

 

29 May 1965 Lagna 12 Libra

I know this woman is on a spiritual path.

Anyone care to guess how many children? If it does not surprise you...as it

did me that she even had children my hat is off to you. This is an example

of how a stellium can really surprise you.

 

I usually encourage a person with planets in teh 8th or 12th to find a

spiritual manifestation for those planets.

It seems as if the sould is offered a choice: Seek enlightenment or

experience a sense of imprisonment. I have one that literally has been

imprisioned. But that's another story.

 

appreciating the discussion and welcome all to join in.

c

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Dear Sateesh

I live with (note LIVE with) an Ashwini Sun. HIs is lord of the 2nd. He was

married twice and had another long-term relationship before me. I have not

doubt that he loves me and plans to stay with me but aswini likes to be free or

at least have the sense of freedom. I on the other hand understand this. My

Venus is opposing Neptune and squared to both Jup and Uranus. The latter are

both in the 7th of my Vedic chart.

 

Sometimes we can be intertwined when we feel that we are free.

smiles

c

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Sateesh Batas

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Friday, February 21, 2003 8:40 PM

Re: [GJ] Re: 8th house stellium

Dear Cynthia,

 

Thanks to the women so far in my life, I have become a renunciant - married life

would have been imprisonment, or literally perhaps murder :-) .

 

(12th Lord Sun in Aries in 8th, closely conjunct with Venus - both in Aswini).

 

Sateesh.

 

========

 

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Saturday, February 22, 2003 1:48 AM

[GJ] Re: 8th house stellium

I usually encourage a person with planets in teh 8th or 12th to find a spiritual

manifestation for those planets.It seems as if the sould is offered a choice:

Seek enlightenment or experience a sense of imprisonment.

 

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Dear Cynthia,

 

Thanks to the women so far in my life, I have become a renunciant - married life

would have been imprisonment, or literally perhaps murder :-) .

 

(12th Lord Sun in Aries in 8th, closely conjunct with Venus - both in Aswini).

 

Sateesh.

 

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Saturday, February 22, 2003 1:48 AM

[GJ] Re: 8th house stellium

I usually encourage a person with planets in teh 8th or 12th to find a spiritual

manifestation for those planets.It seems as if the sould is offered a choice:

Seek enlightenment or experience a sense of imprisonment.

 

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Can you please tell me the effect of the following combination..

I have my 12 th lord venus with mars in Gemini .. both being in the asterism of

Mars..Mrigassirisha. Mars and Venus are aspected by 2nd lord Jupiter -R from

Saggitarius.

Thanks!

Prakash.

Sateesh Batas <makara (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Cynthia,

 

Thanks to the women so far in my life, I have become a renunciant - married life

would have been imprisonment, or literally perhaps murder :-) .

 

(12th Lord Sun in Aries in 8th, closely conjunct with Venus - both in Aswini).

 

Sateesh.

 

========

 

-

"cynthianovak" <cynthianovak (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net>

<gjlist>

Saturday, February 22, 2003 1:48 AM

[GJ] Re: 8th house stellium

I usually encourage a person with planets in teh 8th or 12th to find a spiritual

manifestation for those planets.It seems as if the sould is offered a choice:

Seek enlightenment or experience a sense of imprisonment.

 

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Dear Cynthia,

Can you please tell me the effect of the Outer planets Neptune on the

ascendent in scorpio, and Pluto, Uranus in the 11 th house in Virgo?

 

Thanks!

Prakash

gjlist, "cynthianovak" <cynthianovak@s...>

wrote:

> Dear Sateesh

> I live with (note LIVE with) an Ashwini Sun. HIs is lord of the

2nd. He was married twice and had another long-term relationship

before me. I have not doubt that he loves me and plans to stay with

me but aswini likes to be free or at least have the sense of

freedom. I on the other hand understand this. My Venus is opposing

Neptune and squared to both Jup and Uranus. The latter are both in

the 7th of my Vedic chart.

>

> Sometimes we can be intertwined when we feel that we are free.

> smiles

> c

> -

> Sateesh Batas

> gjlist

> Friday, February 21, 2003 8:40 PM

> Re: [GJ] Re: 8th house stellium

>

>

> Dear Cynthia,

>

> Thanks to the women so far in my life, I have become a

renunciant - married life would have been imprisonment, or literally

perhaps murder :-) .

>

> (12th Lord Sun in Aries in 8th, closely conjunct with Venus -

both in Aswini).

>

> Sateesh.

>

> ========

>

> -

> "cynthianovak" <cynthianovak@s...>

> <gjlist>

> Saturday, February 22, 2003 1:48 AM

> [GJ] Re: 8th house stellium

>

>

> I usually encourage a person with planets in teh 8th or 12th to

find a spiritual manifestation for those planets.

> It seems as if the sould is offered a choice: Seek enlightenment

or experience a sense of imprisonment.

>

>

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Dear Cynthia,

 

Thanks for sharing. Appreciated your "intertwined" comment (around that being

possible when we are free).

 

And thanks for the Aswini perspective - yes, it sounds very apt. Both girls had

a very possessive streak (as did I) - the trouble was, they (and I) were also

fiercely independent.

 

Suffice to say, that kind of combination (possessive of the other, and

independent for the self) is a Paradox in itself!

 

So we didn't work :-) .

 

One had a Mars-Jupiter conjunction like me, and the other had a very close

Sun-Venus conjunction like me. Spooky, eh?

 

Note, I didn't know Astrology then so didn't target them by their planet similarities to my chart!

 

Sateesh.

 

========

 

- cynthianovak

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Saturday, February 22, 2003 2:26 AM

Re: [GJ] Re: 8th house stellium

Dear Sateesh

 

I live with (note LIVE with) an Ashwini Sun. HIs is lord of the 2nd. He was

married twice and had another long-term relationship before me. I have not

doubt that he loves me and plans to stay with me but aswini likes to be free or

at least have the sense of freedom. I on the other hand understand this. My

Venus is opposing Neptune and squared to both Jup and Uranus. The latter are

both in the 7th of my Vedic chart.

 

Sometimes we can be intertwined when we feel that we are free.

smiles

c

 

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Just a note...I have Sun and Saturn in Ashwini (just 11 minutes apart) myself

in the 7th house to boot..and can relate to a lot of what you’re all

saying..I have a hard time defining my sense or need for freedom. It is there

though, but I’ve usually managed to fulfill this need without having to

spend a lot of time alone, or go away and be physically apart from the person

I’m involved with, maybe other planets curb this need. I’m ok as

long as my soul feels free to be itself.

Francoise

On 2/21/03 22:16, "Sateesh Batas" <makara (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Cynthia,

 

Thanks for sharing. Appreciated your "intertwined" comment (around that being

possible when we are free).

 

And thanks for the Aswini perspective - yes, it sounds very apt. Both girls had

a very possessive streak (as did I) - the trouble was, they (and I) were also

fiercely independent.

 

Suffice to say, that kind of combination (possessive of the other, and

independent for the self) is a Paradox in itself!

 

So we didn't work :-) .

 

One had a Mars-Jupiter conjunction like me, and the other had a very close

Sun-Venus conjunction like me. Spooky, eh?

 

Note, I didn't know Astrology then so didn't target them by their planet similarities to my chart!

 

Sateesh.

 

========

 

-

cynthianovak <cynthianovak (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net>

gjlist

Saturday, February 22, 2003 2:26 AM

Re: [GJ] Re: 8th house stellium

Dear Sateesh

 

I live with (note LIVE with) an Ashwini Sun. HIs is lord of the 2nd. He was

married twice and had another long-term relationship before me. I have not

doubt that he loves me and plans to stay with me but aswini likes to be free or

at least have the sense of freedom. I on the other hand understand this. My

Venus is opposing Neptune and squared to both Jup and Uranus. The latter are

both in the 7th of my Vedic chart.

 

Sometimes we can be intertwined when we feel that we are free.

smiles

c

 

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Dear Cynthia,

 

> 29 May 1965 Lagna 12 Libra

> I know this woman is on a spiritual path.

> Anyone care to guess how many children? If it does not surprise you...as

it

> did me that she even had children my hat is off to you. This is an

example

> of how a stellium can really surprise you.

>

 

I was thinking the Sun's aspect, as Sun is 11th lord of gains, to the 2nd

house mep would ensure addition to family and that Mars-7th lord -husband

exactly glancing at Saturn-strong 5th lord-children would be quite good,

notwithstanding their being natural malefics.

What are your thoughts?

Would you know in what dasa/bhukti she had the first child ?

 

thanks

Maddalena

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Dear Cynthia,

 

> 29 May 1965 Lagna 12 Libra

> I know this woman is on a spiritual path.

> Anyone care to guess how many children? If it does not surprise you...as

it

> did me that she even had children my hat is off to you. This is an

example

> of how a stellium can really surprise you.

 

It would be great if you could tell us how many children she had, if this

is ok with you.

 

regards

Maddalena

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Sure

It was really only a little temptation so you would ask: Would you believe

5!?!

c

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"Maddalena" <mcecc88

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Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:28 AM

Re: [GJ] Re: 8th house stellium

 

 

> Dear Cynthia,

>

> > 29 May 1965 Lagna 12 Libra

> > I know this woman is on a spiritual path.

> > Anyone care to guess how many children? If it does not surprise

you...as

> it

> > did me that she even had children my hat is off to you. This is an

> example

> > of how a stellium can really surprise you.

>

> It would be great if you could tell us how many children she had, if this

> is ok with you.

>

> regards

> Maddalena

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

>

>

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Hi Cynthia,

 

thank you for the feedback.

I found some amazing similarities with another chart which was given as a

quiz about children on another list quite recently.

This other woman had 8 children.

If you and the member on the other list both consent to my posting the data

(the date and lagna degree as you have given perhaps) across the lists, I

think it might be of interest.

How about this?

 

best

Maddalena

 

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"cynthianovak" <cynthianovak

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Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:36 PM

Re: [GJ] Re: 8th house stellium

 

 

> Sure

> It was really only a little temptation so you would ask: Would you

believe

> 5!?!

> c

> -

> "Maddalena" <mcecc88

> <gjlist>

> Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:28 AM

> Re: [GJ] Re: 8th house stellium

>

>

> > Dear Cynthia,

> >

> > > 29 May 1965 Lagna 12 Libra

> > > I know this woman is on a spiritual path.

> > > Anyone care to guess how many children? If it does not surprise

> you...as

> > it

> > > did me that she even had children my hat is off to you. This is an

> > example

> > > of how a stellium can really surprise you.

> >

> > It would be great if you could tell us how many children she had, if

this

> > is ok with you.

> >

> > regards

> > Maddalena

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> > : gjlist-

> >

> >

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

 

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

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I think that would be fine. The context it limited. When a person has so

many 8th house planets I know they are sensitive to discussions about them

<grins>. I really have no contact with this women, but find the Saturn in

the 5th with 5 children pretty remarkable. BTW, the children have at least

a few different fathers and at least one has significant "special needs".

Karma worked out through children?

c

 

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"Maddalena" <mcecc88

<gjlist>

Thursday, February 27, 2003 5:31 AM

Re: [GJ] Re: 8th house stellium

 

 

> Hi Cynthia,

>

> thank you for the feedback.

> I found some amazing similarities with another chart which was given as a

> quiz about children on another list quite recently.

> This other woman had 8 children.

> If you and the member on the other list both consent to my posting the

data

> (the date and lagna degree as you have given perhaps) across the lists, I

> think it might be of interest.

> How about this?

>

> best

> Maddalena

>

> -

> "cynthianovak" <cynthianovak

> <gjlist>

> Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:36 PM

> Re: [GJ] Re: 8th house stellium

>

>

> > Sure

> > It was really only a little temptation so you would ask: Would you

> believe

> > 5!?!

> > c

> > -

> > "Maddalena" <mcecc88

> > <gjlist>

> > Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:28 AM

> > Re: [GJ] Re: 8th house stellium

> >

> >

> > > Dear Cynthia,

> > >

> > > > 29 May 1965 Lagna 12 Libra

> > > > I know this woman is on a spiritual path.

> > > > Anyone care to guess how many children? If it does not surprise

> > you...as

> > > it

> > > > did me that she even had children my hat is off to you. This is an

> > > example

> > > > of how a stellium can really surprise you.

> > >

> > > It would be great if you could tell us how many children she had, if

> this

> > > is ok with you.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Maddalena

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> > > : gjlist-

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Your use of is subject to

>

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> > : gjlist-

> >

> >

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

 

> >

> >

>

>

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

>

>

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