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Dear Lists,

 

A rather good article and analysis below, based on Systems Approach. This is a

forward from the SAMVA list. Dead interesting news article.

 

Sateesh.

 

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- Th. Thorgeirsson

SAMVA

Sunday, February 16, 2003 11:40 AM

US to punish German 'treachery'

Dear list members,

 

The tension between the USA and Germany seems to be on the rise. The UK

newspaper the Observer is reporting the US has plans to punish German

opposition to the war in Iraq.

 

The tension is clearly seen in the USA chart -- with tr Saturn stationary in

opposition to its own natal placement and that of Mars. As Saturn is 8th lord,

this period is emphasising endings with regard to the general and functional

indications of these planets.

 

In the German Political Unification chart, tr Ketu has been in stationary aspect

to natal Jupiter, which is in the MEP of the ascendant. Moreover, tr Jupiter is

transiting the ascendant, and now re-approaching a conjunction with its own

natal placement. 6th house matters of financial stability are clearly in the

focus. There have been troubles in the banking system and concerning conflict.

Saturn is also aspecting the chart lord natally placed in the 8th house,

emphasising endings with regard to Germany´s image.

 

In short, the tension between these two countries are evident, lending credence

to the newspaper report. Of course, with the transit affliction the US is also

at risk of "cutting its nose to spite its face." Ending military cooperation

with Germany, the leading EU country, will ultimately only reduce US global

power.

 

Other thoughts on these charts are welcome.

 

With my best wishes,

 

Thor Thorgeirsson

 

 

US to punish German 'treachery' Peter Beaumont, David Roseand Paul BeaverSunday

February 16, 2003The Observer America is to punish Germany for leading

international opposition to a war against Iraq. The US will withdraw all its

troops and bases from there and end military and industrial co-operation

between the two countries - moves that could cost the Germans billions of

euros.

The plan - discussed by Pentagon officials and military chiefs last week on the

orders of Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld - is designed 'to harm' the German

economy to make an example of the country for what US hawks see as Chancellor

Gerhard Schröder's 'treachery'. The hawks believe that making an example of

Germany will force other countries heavily dependent on US trade to think twice

about standing up to America in future. This follows weeks of increasingly angry

exchanges between Rumsfeld and Germany, in which at one point he taunted Germany

and France for being an irrelevant part of 'old Europe'. Now Rumsfeld has

decided to go further by unilaterally imposing the Pentagon's sanctions on a

country already in the throes of economic problems. 'We are doing this for one

reason only: to harm the German economy,' one source told The Observer last

week. 'Our troops contribute many millions of dollars. Why should we continue

to support a country which has treated Nato and the protection we provided for

decades with such incredible contempt?' Another Pentagon source said: 'The aim

is to hit German trade and commerce. It is not just about taking out the troops

and equipment; it is also about cancelling commercial contracts and

defence-related arrangements.' The Pentagon plan - and the language expressed

by officials close to Rumsfeld - has horrified State Department officials, who

believe that bullying other countries to follow the US line will further

exacerbate anti-Americanism and alienate those European countries that might

support a United Nations resolution authorising a war. German industry earns

billions of euros every year from supporting the US Army Europe which, although

reduced from its Cold War heights, still totals 42,000 troops and 785 tanks -

almost three times as many as the British Army owns. Many of these soldiers and

their fighting equipment, including Apache helicopters, have already been sent

to the Gulf. German industry is heavily involved in supporting the US presence.

Among the defence companies which stand to lose out are missile-maker Diehl,

aerospace and defence giant EADS Deutschland, armaments maker Rheinmetall and

vehicle maker Krauss-Maffei Wegmann. There is also a US Air Force contingent of

about 15,000 service people with bases at Bitburg, Frankfurt-am-Main and

neighbouring Ramstein, where the commander doubles as part of the Nato command.

This force includes nearly 60 F-16 fighter-bombers and a squadron of A-10

tank-buster aircraft. Rumsfeld and his staff have made no attempt to hide their

fury at Schröder's 'treachery and ineptitude' over Iraq. Last week Schröder

leaked to reporters a Franco-German plan for avoiding war by increasing the

number of UN weapons inspectors before informing his American counterparts.

'After this, Germany is finished as a serious power,' one of the sources added.

'This is simply not the way to conduct diplomacy at a moment of international

crisis.' One diplomatic source said Rumsfeld was 'furious at Germany. He is a

bruiser and it looks as though he means to do it'. Under these plans, the US

would move its troops in Europe eastwards to countries such as Poland, the

Czech Republic and the Baltic states, all of which have strongly supported

America's line against Saddam Hussein. It is likely that the overall size of

the deployment would be reduced, as the US military changes its priorities for

a long-term and disparate engagement with international terrorism. Although

Rumsfeld had already been considering a redeployment of US troops around the

world after a war in Iraq to save money and respond to new threats, the plans

now under consideration go far beyond what had been discussed. It is likely

that future years will see a sharp increase in the proportion of special forces

troops able to deploy rapidly across the globe. Germany would suffer

considerable financial loss if US forces were withdrawn from the country. The

bases provide jobs for local people as everything from administrators to

cleaners, and are huge customers for dairy products and bread.

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German Political Unification

Oct 3,1990

Time: 12:00AM Zone: 1:00 DST: 0

Berlin

Longitude: 13E25 Latitude: 52N32

Lahiri Ayanamsa: 23:44 365.25 Day Year

Current Period: Sa/Sa/Ju

 

As 10:41 Cn Pushya Sa

Su 15:45 Vi Hasta Mo

Mo 25:15 Aq P.Bhadra Ju

Ma 18:38 Ta Rohini Mo

Me 01:33 Vi U.Phalguni Su

Ju 14:51 Cn Pushya Sa

Ve 08:05 Vi U.Phalguni Su

Sa 25:05 Sg P.Shadya Ve

Ra 11:34 Cp Shravana Mo

Ke 11:34 Cn Pushya Sa

 

Vimshottari Dashas

==================

Ju Oct-03-1990

Sa Jun-15-2000

Me Jun-16-2019

Ke Jun-15-2036

Ve Jun-16-2043

Su Jun-16-2063

Mo Jun-15-2069

Ma Jun-16-2079

Ra Jun-15-2086

 

Rashi Chart

*******************************************************

** * * **

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * 5 * * 3 * *

*ME 01:33 * * AS 10:41 * * *

*VE 08:05 6 * KE 11:34 * 2 MA 18:38*

*SU 15:45 * * JU 14:51 * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * 4 * * *

** * * **

* 7 * 1 *

** * * **

* * * 10 * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* 8 * RA 11:34 * 12 *

* * * * * *

* * 9 * * 11 * *

* * SA 25:05 * * MO 25:15 * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

** * * **

*******************************************************

 

Navamsa Chart

*******************************************************

** * * **

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * JU * * 6 * *

* *SA * * * *

* 9 * AS * 5 *

* * * KE * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * 7 * * *

** ME * * **

* 10 * 4 *

** * * **

* * * 1 * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* 11* RA * 3 MA *

* * * * * *

* * 12 * * 2 * *

* * VE * * SU * *

* * * * MO * *

* * * * * *

** * * **

*******************************************************

 

 

System's Approach Analysis

==========================

Sun: Good Placement, weak dispositor,

Aspected by functional malefic(s): Ra 16%,

Moon: Bad Placement, in oldage 5%, weak dispositor, Bright,

Aspected by functional malefic(s): Sa 96%,

Mars: Good Placement,

Mercury: Good Placement, in infancy 68%, own sign,

Jupiter: Good Placement, weak dispositor, Afflicts house 1 MEP 16%

Conjunct functional malefic(s): Ke 34%,

Venus: Good Placement, Combust, Debilated in Rashi, weak dispositor, Conjunct

house 3 MEP 47%

Aspected by functional malefic(s): Ra 30%,

Saturn: Bad Placement, in oldage 1%, weak dispositor,

Rahu: Afflicts houses 7 11 3 MEP 82%

Ketu: Afflicts houses 1 5 9 MEP 82%

 

Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis

========================

Ju/Me Oct 3,1990

Ju/Ke May 22,1991

Ju/Ve Apr 27,1992

Ju/Su Dec 27,1994

Ju/Mo Oct 15,1995

Ju/Ma Feb 13,1997

Ju/Ra Jan 20,1998

Sa/Sa Jun 15,2000

Sa/Me Jun 19,2003

Sa/Ke Feb 26,2006

Sa/Ve Apr 7,2007

Sa/Su Jun 6,2010

Sa/Mo May 19,2011

Sa/Ma Dec 18,2012

Sa/Ra Jan 26,2014

Sa/Ju Dec 2,2016

Me/Me Jun 16,2019

Me/Ke Nov 11,2021

Me/Ve Nov 8,2022

Me/Su Sep 8,2025

Me/Mo Jul 16,2026

Me/Ma Dec 15,2027

Me/Ra Dec 11,2028

Me/Ju Jul 1,2031

Me/Sa Oct 6,2033

Ke/Ke Jun 15,2036

Ke/Ve Nov 11,2036

Ke/Su Jan 11,2038

Ke/Mo May 19,2038

Ke/Ma Dec 18,2038

Ke/Ra May 16,2039

Ke/Ju Jun 3,2040

Ke/Sa May 10,2041

Ke/Me Jun 18,2042

Ve/Ve Jun 16,2043

Ve/Su Oct 15,2046

Ve/Mo Oct 15,2047

Ve/Ma Jun 15,2049

Ve/Ra Aug 15,2050

Ve/Ju Aug 15,2053

Ve/Sa Apr 15,2056

Ve/Me Jun 16,2059

Ve/Ke Apr 16,2062

Su/Su Jun 16,2063

Su/Mo Oct 3,2063

Su/Ma Apr 3,2064

Su/Ra Aug 9,2064

Su/Ju Jul 3,2065

Su/Sa Apr 22,2066

Su/Me Apr 4,2067

Su/Ke Feb 8,2068

Su/Ve Jun 15,2068

Mo/Mo Jun 15,2069

Mo/Ma Apr 16,2070

Mo/Ra Nov 15,2070

Mo/Ju May 15,2072

Mo/Sa Sep 14,2073

Mo/Me Apr 16,2075

Mo/Ke Sep 14,2076

Mo/Ve Apr 15,2077

Mo/Su Dec 15,2078

Ma/Ma Jun 16,2079

Ma/Ra Nov 12,2079

Ma/Ju Nov 29,2080

Ma/Sa Nov 5,2081

Ma/Me Dec 15,2082

Ma/Ke Dec 12,2083

Ma/Ve May 9,2084

Ma/Su Jul 9,2085

Ma/Mo Nov 14,2085

Ra/Ra Jun 15,2086

Ra/Ju Feb 26,2089

Ra/Sa Jul 22,2091

Ra/Me May 28,2094

Ra/Ke Dec 15,2096

Ra/Ve Jan 2,2098

Ra/Su Jan 3,2101

Ra/Mo Nov 27,2101

Ra/Ma May 29,2103

USA

Mar 1,1781

Time: 3:19PM Zone: 5:00 DST: 0

Philadelphia, PA

Longitude: 75W10 Latitude: 39N57

Lahiri Ayanamsa: 20:48 365.25 Day Year

Current Period: Ve/Su/Sa

 

As 21:18 Cn Aslesha Me

Su 20:52 Aq P.Bhadra Ju

Mo 02:36 Ta Krittika Su

Ma 25:51 Sc Jyeshtha Me

Me 00:25 Pi P.Bhadra Ju

Ju 06:26 Sc Anuradha Sa

Ve 27:08 Cp Dhanishtha Ma

Sa 28:29 Sc Jyeshtha Me

Ra 15:02 Ar Bharani Ve

Ke 15:02 Li Swati Ra

 

Vimshottari Dashas

==================

Su Mar-01-1781

Mo Jun-30-1784

Ma Jul-01-1794

Ra Jul-01-1801

Ju Jul-02-1819

Sa Jul-02-1835

Me Jul-02-1854

Ke Jul-02-1871

Ve Jul-02-1878

 

Rashi Chart

*******************************************************

** * * **

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * 5 * * 3 * *

* * * * * *

* 6 * AS 21:18 * 2 MO 02:36*

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * 4 * * *

** * * **

* KE 15:02 7 * 1 RA 15:02 *

** * * **

* * * 10 * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

*JU 06:26 * * * * *

*MA 25:51 8 * VE 27:08 * 12ME 00:25*

*SA 28:29 * * * * *

* * 9 * * 11 * *

* * * * SU 20:52 * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

** * * **

*******************************************************

 

Navamsa Chart

*******************************************************

** * * **

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * MA * * * *

* * KE1 * * 9 * *

* * * * * *

* SA 12 * AS * 8 *

* * * MO * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * 10 * * *

** * * **

* SU 1 * 7 *

** * * **

* * * 4 * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

* * * ME * * *

* 2 * * 6 VE *

* * * * * *

* * 3 * * JU * *

* * * * RA * *

* * * * * *

* * * * * *

** * * **

*******************************************************

 

 

System's Approach Analysis

==========================

Sun: Bad Placement, weak dispositor, Conjunct house 8 MEP 91%

Aspected by functional benefic(s): Ma 0%,

Moon: Good Placement, in infancy 47%, Bright,

Aspected by functional malefic(s): Ju 23%,

Mars: Good Placement, in oldage 17%, own sign, Conjunct house 5 MEP 9%

Conjunct functional malefic(s): Sa 47%,

Mercury: Good Placement, Combust, Debilated in Rashi, in infancy 91%,

Aspected by functional benefic(s): Ma 0%,

Jupiter: Good Placement,

Aspected by functional benefic(s): Mo 23%,

Venus: Good Placement, Debilated in Navamsa, in oldage 42%,

Aspected by functional malefic(s): Sa 73%,

Saturn: Good Placement, in oldage 69%,

Conjunct functional benefic(s): Ma 47%,

 

Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis

========================

Su/Ju Mar 1,1781

Su/Sa May 7,1781

Su/Me Apr 19,1782

Su/Ke Feb 23,1783

Su/Ve Jul 1,1783

Mo/Mo Jun 30,1784

Mo/Ma May 1,1785

Mo/Ra Nov 30,1785

Mo/Ju May 31,1787

Mo/Sa Sep 29,1788

Mo/Me May 1,1790

Mo/Ke Sep 30,1791

Mo/Ve Apr 30,1792

Mo/Su Dec 30,1793

Ma/Ma Jul 1,1794

Ma/Ra Nov 27,1794

Ma/Ju Dec 15,1795

Ma/Sa Nov 20,1796

Ma/Me Dec 30,1797

Ma/Ke Dec 27,1798

Ma/Ve May 25,1799

Ma/Su Jul 25,1800

Ma/Mo Nov 30,1800

Ra/Ra Jul 1,1801

Ra/Ju Mar 14,1804

Ra/Sa Aug 7,1806

Ra/Me Jun 13,1809

Ra/Ke Jan 1,1812

Ra/Ve Jan 18,1813

Ra/Su Jan 19,1816

Ra/Mo Dec 12,1816

Ra/Ma Jun 13,1818

Ju/Ju Jul 2,1819

Ju/Sa Aug 19,1821

Ju/Me Mar 1,1824

Ju/Ke Jun 7,1826

Ju/Ve May 14,1827

Ju/Su Jan 12,1830

Ju/Mo Oct 31,1830

Ju/Ma Mar 1,1832

Ju/Ra Feb 5,1833

Sa/Sa Jul 2,1835

Sa/Me Jul 5,1838

Sa/Ke Mar 14,1841

Sa/Ve Apr 23,1842

Sa/Su Jun 22,1845

Sa/Mo Jun 4,1846

Sa/Ma Jan 4,1848

Sa/Ra Feb 11,1849

Sa/Ju Dec 19,1851

Me/Me Jul 2,1854

Me/Ke Nov 27,1856

Me/Ve Nov 24,1857

Me/Su Sep 24,1860

Me/Mo Aug 1,1861

Me/Ma Dec 31,1862

Me/Ra Dec 28,1863

Me/Ju Jul 17,1866

Me/Sa Oct 22,1868

Ke/Ke Jul 2,1871

Ke/Ve Nov 28,1871

Ke/Su Jan 27,1873

Ke/Mo Jun 4,1873

Ke/Ma Jan 3,1874

Ke/Ra Jun 1,1874

Ke/Ju Jun 20,1875

Ke/Sa May 26,1876

Ke/Me Jul 4,1877

Ve/Ve Jul 2,1878

Ve/Su Oct 31,1881

Ve/Mo Oct 31,1882

Ve/Ma Jul 1,1884

Ve/Ra Aug 31,1885

Ve/Ju Aug 31,1888

Ve/Sa May 2,1891

Ve/Me Jul 2,1894

Ve/Ke May 2,1897

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