Guest guest Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 Dear Cynthia and List, You are probably aware how much stress I put on the Navamsa (strength) of the various Transit planets, in addition to the Sign they are in in the main chart. I realise you and most Astrologers on the Lists instead (or maybe in addition) look at the D1 Transits plus the NAKSHATRAS, rather than the Navamsa strength. I am slowly learning about the effects in different Nakshatras - although the transits in Navamsa seems easier - because that is purely a STRENGTH based quality. Nakshatra TRs seem to be CHARACTER quality. Hope I am making sense in what I am asking - do you disregard the D9 strength/sign of a TR planet in favour of looking at the Nakshatra a planet is transiting through? Or do you use both? Thanks - Sateesh. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Sateesh, Transits are seen in Navamsa. I have wrote an article on it, and not only in Navamsa, but in other divisional charts. There are two methods: 1. See the exact longitude of Graha and find its navamsa placement For Example: guru is now in 20 deg. and 20 minutes of Kark which would put it Makara (neecha navamsa), thus his efficiency in the transit is spoilt. 2. Another method is from Sage Bhrigu. Look at the same time of guru's transit in Navamsa kundhali. So guru would be transiting kark rashi in your navamsa kundhali. Read the effects accordingly. This is very important topic, and I am glad you initiated it// Best wishes Zoran Sateesh Batas wrote: Dear Cynthia and List, You are probably aware how much stress I put on the Navamsa (strength) of the various Transit planets, in addition to the Sign they are in in the main chart. I realise you and most Astrologers on the Lists instead (or maybe in addition) look at the D1 Transits plus the NAKSHATRAS, rather than the Navamsa strength. I am slowly learning about the effects in different Nakshatras - although the transits in Navamsa seems easier - because that is purely a STRENGTH based quality. Nakshatra TRs seem to be CHARACTER quality. Hope I am making sense in what I am asking - do you disregard the D9 strength/sign of a TR planet in favour of looking at the Nakshatra a planet is transiting through? Or do you use both? Thanks - Sateesh. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release 21/01/2003 Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Terms of Service. -- ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre email: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net web: www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 Dear Zoran, Many thanks. On 27th January, Guru will enter MT Navamsa - so we should see a big difference in its ability (compared to current Neecha Navamsa). What does this mean, Karka rasi? >> So guru would be transiting kark rashi in your navamsa kundhali. << P.S. I am sending you a private mail off-list to ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net . Best - Sateesh. ======== - Zoran Radosavljevic gjlist Friday, January 24, 2003 6:54 PM Re: [GJ] Cynthia - Navamsas versus Nakshatras Transits are seen in Navamsa. I have wrote an article on it, and not only in Navamsa, but in other divisional charts. There are two methods: 1. See the exact longitude of Graha and find its navamsa placement For Example: guru is now in 20 deg. and 20 minutes of Kark which would put it Makara (neecha navamsa), thus his efficiency in the transit is spoilt. 2. Another method is from Sage Bhrigu. Look at the same time of guru's transit in Navamsa kundhali. So guru would be transiting kark rashi in your navamsa kundhali. Read the effects accordingly. This is very important topic, and I am glad you initiated it// ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 Dear Sateesh I don't disregard it, I just have no experience with it. I need to pay attention to the transits to the navamsa and others. Could you share some insights? c - Sateesh Batas GJ List Friday, January 24, 2003 12:25 PM [GJ] Cynthia - Navamsas versus Nakshatras Dear Cynthia and List, You are probably aware how much stress I put on the Navamsa (strength) of the various Transit planets, in addition to the Sign they are in in the main chart. I realise you and most Astrologers on the Lists instead (or maybe in addition) look at the D1 Transits plus the NAKSHATRAS, rather than the Navamsa strength. I am slowly learning about the effects in different Nakshatras - although the transits in Navamsa seems easier - because that is purely a STRENGTH based quality. Nakshatra TRs seem to be CHARACTER quality. Hope I am making sense in what I am asking - do you disregard the D9 strength/sign of a TR planet in favour of looking at the Nakshatra a planet is transiting through? Or do you use both? Thanks - Sateesh. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat SatTo , send an email to: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 Dear Zoron I am trying to follow is Kark short for karakumsa? Any chance you could make this even more simple for those of us who are simple minded? If you could give birth data and an example I think I could put the pieces together. I would really like to use the divisional charts more than I have thus far. cynthia - Zoran Radosavljevic gjlist Friday, January 24, 2003 12:54 PM Re: [GJ] Cynthia - Navamsas versus Nakshatras Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Sateesh, Transits are seen in Navamsa. I have wrote an article on it, and not only in Navamsa, but in other divisional charts. There are two methods: 1. See the exact longitude of Graha and find its navamsa placement For Example: guru is now in 20 deg. and 20 minutes of Kark which would put it Makara (neecha navamsa), thus his efficiency in the transit is spoilt. 2. Another method is from Sage Bhrigu. Look at the same time of guru's transit in Navamsa kundhali. So guru would be transiting kark rashi in your navamsa kundhali. Read the effects accordingly. This is very important topic, and I am glad you initiated it// Best wishes Zoran Sateesh Batas wrote: Dear Cynthia and List, You are probably aware how much stress I put on the Navamsa (strength) of the various Transit planets, in addition to the Sign they are in in the main chart. I realise you and most Astrologers on the Lists instead (or maybe in addition) look at the D1 Transits plus the NAKSHATRAS, rather than the Navamsa strength. I am slowly learning about the effects in different Nakshatras - although the transits in Navamsa seems easier - because that is purely a STRENGTH based quality. Nakshatra TRs seem to be CHARACTER quality. Hope I am making sense in what I am asking - do you disregard the D9 strength/sign of a TR planet in favour of looking at the Nakshatra a planet is transiting through? Or do you use both? Thanks - Sateesh. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release 21/01/2003 Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat To , send an email to: gjlist- Terms of Service. -- ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre email: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net web: www.sjvc.co.yu Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 Dear Cynthia, The only way I use the Navamsa with regards to assessing the overall Transit of a planet in the Rasi is this - let us take Jupiter - when it is in its Exalted/MT/Own (Cancer/Sagitt/Pisces) Navamsas - especially the former two - it will be GREATLY empowered now - since Jupiter is Exalted in the Rasi currently. Similarly, if Jupiter is Debilitated in Navamsa (like right now), its Exaltation strength in Rasi is somewhat "half-baked". Hence, Tranist of Jupiter will be somewhat half-baked until 27th January (Capricorn Navamsa), after which it will be fully cooking (Sagittarius Navamsa). Sateesh. ======== - cynthianovak gjlist Friday, January 24, 2003 7:59 PM Re: [GJ] Cynthia - Navamsas versus Nakshatras Dear Sateesh I don't disregard it, I just have no experience with it. I need to pay attention to the transits to the navamsa and others. Could you share some insights? ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 Om Namo Narayanya, Dear Cynthia and Sateesh, I meant cancer rashi, so you should use the same sign where graha is placed in transit in rashi. For example, My friend gave birth to a child when Guru was transiting Capricorn rashi some times back (I think it was 1986). Her saptamsa lagna is Virgo, and Guru was transiting capricorn (the same rashi as in rashi chart-suggested by Sage Bhrigu), which was Saptamsa 5th house, and 5th house from Chandra and Guru who are placed in lagna saptamsa. Rahu was transititing aries over natal saptamsa ketu, while ketu was transtiting natal saptamsa rahu. Shani was transitting 3rd house (scorpio) over saptamsa lagna lord budh. So we had both shani and guru touching the significations of the 5th house in Saptamsa Kundhali. In this way, the child was born. Hope this helps. Zoran cynthianovak wrote: Dear ZoronI am trying to follow is Kark short for karakumsa? Any chance you could make this even more simple for those of us who are simple minded? If you could give birth data and an example I think I could put the pieces together. I would really like to use the divisional charts more than I have thus far.cynthia - Zoran Radosavljevic gjlist Friday, January 24, 2003 12:54 PM Re: [GJ] Cynthia - Navamsas versus Nakshatras Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Sateesh, Transits are seen in Navamsa. I have wrote an article on it, and not only in Navamsa, but in other divisional charts. There are two methods: 1. See the exact longitude of Graha and find its navamsa placement For Example: guru is now in 20 deg. and 20 minutes of Kark which would put it Makara (neecha navamsa), thus his efficiency in the transit is spoilt. 2. Another method is from Sage Bhrigu. Look at the same time of guru's transit in Navamsa kundhali. So guru would be transiting kark rashi in your navamsa kundhali. Read the effects accordingly. This is very important topic, and I am glad you initiated it// Best wishes Zoran Sateesh Batas wrote: Dear Cynthia and List, You are probably aware how much stress I put on the Navamsa (strength) of the various Transit planets, in addition to the Sign they are in in the main chart. I realise you and most Astrologers on the Lists instead (or maybe in addition) look at the D1 Transits plus the NAKSHATRAS, rather than the Navamsa strength. I am slowly learning about the effects in different Nakshatras - although the transits in Navamsa seems easier - because that is purely a STRENGTH based quality. Nakshatra TRs seem to be CHARACTER quality. Hope I am making sense in what I am asking - do you disregard the D9 strength/sign of a TR planet in favour of looking at the Nakshatra a planet is transiting through? Or do you use both? Thanks - Sateesh. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release 21/01/2003 Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Terms of Service. -- ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre email: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net web: www.sjvc.co.yu Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Terms of Service. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Terms of Service. -- ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre email: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net web: www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 Dear Zoran OK I thought I'd check out my own divisional charts. I have been uncharacteristically annoyed by my sweetie's 15 year old daughter. I can see that Mars is in my 5th and Saturn is conjoined again within 1 degree. The annoyance stems from her refusal to return the key to the front door to its hiding place, instead leaving it visible to anyone walking to the front door. Here is the interesting part and how Saturn slowly works. This has been going on for months. She is a good kid but very moody and of course self centered. Yesterday it really got to me. Now, I go to see the septumsa chart and there is Mars in the same position as in Rashi a double hit and confirmation that the transit would bring frustration with a child rather than another 5th house concern. This is very interesting... So are these the sort of literal insights that using transiting planets in the divisional charts will offer? Thank you cynthia - Zoran Radosavljevic gjlist Friday, January 24, 2003 7:14 PM Re: [GJ] Cynthia - Navamsas versus Nakshatras Om Namo Narayanya, Dear Cynthia and Sateesh, I meant cancer rashi, so you should use the same sign where graha is placed in transit in rashi. For example, My friend gave birth to a child when Guru was transiting Capricorn rashi some times back (I think it was 1986). Her saptamsa lagna is Virgo, and Guru was transiting capricorn (the same rashi as in rashi chart-suggested by Sage Bhrigu), which was Saptamsa 5th house, and 5th house from Chandra and Guru who are placed in lagna saptamsa. Rahu was transititing aries over natal saptamsa ketu, while ketu was transtiting natal saptamsa rahu. Shani was transitting 3rd house (scorpio) over saptamsa lagna lord budh. So we had both shani and guru touching the significations of the 5th house in Saptamsa Kundhali. In this way, the child was born. Hope this helps. Zoran cynthianovak wrote: Dear ZoronI am trying to follow is Kark short for karakumsa? Any chance you could make this even more simple for those of us who are simple minded? If you could give birth data and an example I think I could put the pieces together. I would really like to use the divisional charts more than I have thus far.cynthia - Zoran Radosavljevic gjlist Friday, January 24, 2003 12:54 PM Re: [GJ] Cynthia - Navamsas versus Nakshatras Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Sateesh, Transits are seen in Navamsa. I have wrote an article on it, and not only in Navamsa, but in other divisional charts. There are two methods: 1. See the exact longitude of Graha and find its navamsa placement For Example: guru is now in 20 deg. and 20 minutes of Kark which would put it Makara (neecha navamsa), thus his efficiency in the transit is spoilt. 2. Another method is from Sage Bhrigu. Look at the same time of guru's transit in Navamsa kundhali. So guru would be transiting kark rashi in your navamsa kundhali. Read the effects accordingly. This is very important topic, and I am glad you initiated it// Best wishes Zoran Sateesh Batas wrote: Dear Cynthia and List, You are probably aware how much stress I put on the Navamsa (strength) of the various Transit planets, in addition to the Sign they are in in the main chart. I realise you and most Astrologers on the Lists instead (or maybe in addition) look at the D1 Transits plus the NAKSHATRAS, rather than the Navamsa strength. I am slowly learning about the effects in different Nakshatras - although the transits in Navamsa seems easier - because that is purely a STRENGTH based quality. Nakshatra TRs seem to be CHARACTER quality. Hope I am making sense in what I am asking - do you disregard the D9 strength/sign of a TR planet in favour of looking at the Nakshatra a planet is transiting through? Or do you use both? Thanks - Sateesh. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release 21/01/2003 Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat To , send an email to: gjlist- Your use of Groups is subject to the -- ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre email: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net web: www.sjvc.co.yu Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat To , send an email to: gjlist- Terms of Service. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat To , send an email to: gjlist- Terms of Service. -- ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre email: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net web: www.sjvc.co.yu Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat: gjlist-http://www.goravani.comYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2003 Report Share Posted January 26, 2003 Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Dhira Krishna Dasa, There are some good effects, yet for Guru in debilitation Navamsa, the only rescue may come from Chandra, Exaltation lord of Guru. Shani should also be extremely well placed to help guru debilitation, even though, I repeat debilitation and Vakra (retrograde) gives some exaltation effects (some, not completely) Best wishes Zoran Dhira Krsna BCS wrote: > Dear Zoran, > > >guru is now in 20 deg. and 20 minutes of Kark which would put it Makara > >(neecha navamsa), thus his efficiency in the transit is spoilt. > > Even when it is retrograde in Navamsa debilitation, thus getting > neechabhanga? > > Your sishya, > Dhira Krsna dasa > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to -- ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre email: ahimsa web: www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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