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Rosa, et al.

 

I appreciate all of the comments made on this topic.

 

I would like to share one of my experiences:

 

I was living in a much too-small apartment with my partner. I had 2 jobs --

one I liked, but it was very part time, and another that was more full time

and very unfulfilling. All in all, I felt compromised and very

disheartened. I knew that this was NOT the way I (or anyone) was intended

to live -- compromised. I had high expectations for myself of how life

would be once finished with school.

 

About the same time, someone gave me a copy of the book The Power of Now by

Eckhardt Tolle. I savored it while reading, for it made such incredible

sense. While reading, I was in the Now. From the Now, I was almost

compelled to create something else for myself. At a point, I put the book

down and said aloud, with incredible conviction: "This is what I want: a

nice, beautiful house, close into the city, that is spacious, in a good

neighborhood, where I feel safe, and comfortable, and that I can afford."

(I worked on my job, with results, shortly thereafter).

 

The Very Next day, I got a call from a co-worker (at the job I liked). She

knew that I'd housesit for people, and asked if I might consider taking a

longer term housesitting job. I went to the house to meet with the man, to

see if I wanted to take care of it.... It was a great house, built in the

1890s, a 10 minute walk from the city, in a very nice neighborhood. Rents

were over $1200 for townhouses in the area. The person I'd be sitting for

explained that he couldn't afford to pay me, but he'd of course take care of

utilities, and hoped that I still might consider it. What a miricle, and

what a funny thing - he couldn't pay me! Free is affordable. It felt like

a cosmic joke, and I was thrilled to be a part of it! I got to live there

for 4 months. Just as I'd made peace with having to leave eventually, the

gig ended.

 

I don't know the role the astrological cosmos played, but it didn't matter.

I was a co-creator. It was an extraordinary experience.

 

Thanks for the opportunity to share,

Hilary

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Yes, you are absolutely right ! There are two things that facilitate this,

Knowledge and Sadhanna. It is very important to continually bombard oneself

with Knowledge, to soak ourselves in it(like you have said). That way, when

are "stuck" in doing, we will remember , "Oh, I am not the doer" or "Oh this

is Rajasic doing" and then without effort, voila, we have dropped it.

Sadhanna, spiritual practice, is also very important, because it gives you

the actual experience of being in the Self, samadhi, etc.. It is like

color-fasting a piece of cloth. Dye the cloth and then the sun bleaches it,

dye it again, sun bleaches it again, etc.. but each time the sun bleaches

the cloth , a little more color remains , until the cloth is saturated with

color. In the same way, we dive into the Self through Sadhanna and each time

more and more of the Self remains in our activity. For me, without

Sadhanna, the Knowledge does not fully blossom, there is no "Aha!" and the

Knowledge is just a concept, not something that is experienced.

 

>Until then, we may need to be convinced by logic, reason, and

> arguments on various points.

 

I chuckled when I read this because it is true, we must have a 'reason' to

believe this or that and yet logic and reasoning have no master. One can

argue any point and make it seem valid. I use the "Fake it till you make

it" technique. Even if i dont get a teaching or bit of Knowledge i just

take it on faith that it is so. Actually, after repeating something you

dont believe after a while, you start believing it :) but this technique

wont work for the serious intellectual *smile*

 

Andy

 

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Friday, December 27, 2002 9:10 AM

Re: [GJ] Destiny

 

 

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> True, the whole Gita passage Andy wrote is true.

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> But, we're not able to drop doership easily, so the questions remain

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> namely, what am I, why am I here, should I try to accomplish, what if I

> fail, and ad infinitum ad nauseum.

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> The path of Gyan, knowledge, (jnan), helps us to become convinced, so that

> we can surrender (saranagati). Once we fully surrender, then we can let

> things go. Until then, we may need to be convinced by logic, reason, and

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> We have to "undo" the web of illusion, often, before we can surrender.

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> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

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