Guest guest Posted November 26, 2002 Report Share Posted November 26, 2002 Dear Tarun, I always avoid discussion on historical charts , because they are mostly made by Astrologers using their experience. But you pressed me to look at the horoscope of Yogananda and i am great full to you to look at this chart. I am really surprised to see the inner strength this chart has and i am sorry about you that you can not look at these things. Read below my comments in** ** ---------------- I have observed a change in the Paramahansa Yogananda; chart according to my Ayanamsha, I would like to discuss those changes with the list. The change is that Venus which was in fourth house has moved into fifth house, sun the lord of Lagna which was in fifth house is now in Sixth house, Jupiter the lord of eight and fifth which was in eight house has moved into ninth house. ** This could be in the Rashi chart, the Cusp chart will remain the same, for all ayanasha changes you may come with , Moon will move to 12th, sat to 2nd, ketu to 3rd , venus and mercury in 4rth house sun in 5th house , mars jupiter in 8th and Rahu in 9th. Incidently the Cusp lords of all the houses remain the same with KP ayanasha we are using and with your 's ayanasha.** Now I will try to analyze the chart of Shri Paramahansa, Yogananda I shall start with the first house, (personality, person temperament). When Yogananda ji was born Leo Ascendant was on eastern Horizon and its Lord in sixth house, the sign Capricorn. In Ascendant the lord of 12th house is placed and Ascendant is having aspect of the fifth, eight Lord Jupiter and Rahu. ** Aries Leo and Sagitarius trine is connected with relegion , Sun(Soul ) gains Kingship at one point wisdom at another and reach at its peak in the 3rd in the liberated and pure mode. It justifies Leo ascendent of a yogi** Any individual life path can be traced by analyzing the Ascendant only; Here Ascendant is influenced by sixth house (the house of work, health and service to others). Eighth house (the house of transformation and spiritual regeneration, occult). Fifth house (the house of creativity, of self-expression, Teachings). Twelfth house (foreign residency, seclusion), Rahu (fanaticism, mysticisms). We know that Yogananda ji life has revolved around these aspects of life only. **Basic cusp chart acts as a mother board in computer and other planets as processor. With Kp ayanasha the Ascendent is ruled by Sun Sign lord , Ketu as constelation lord and Rahu becomes the sub lord. These three becomes the main parameters of this horoscope, Sun the Soul is in the 2nd point of his activity from Kigship to wisdom, Mercury the intelect giving planet joins this Soul by effecting through liberation significator Ketu(merc in ketu constelation) and opposing for the married life through Saturan another euench planet lying in his sign.. How Sun will justify all this with his placement in capricorn , i can not understand. Constelation lord Ketu is in the 3rd in theconstelation of another in the 9th. The sublord Rahu is in Ketu constelation and Merc Sub , Merc again is in the constelation of Ketu in the 3rd. A person born with highest understanding of relegeion and a born writer. A great thinker. Now turn to your Ayanasha , it will make him a family man a man after money and sex, the constelation lord becomes Venus and sub lord too is venus ,Venus joins Mercury in 4rth cusp in Sagitarius , through Ketu it represent 3rd house due to 10th , whose lord is venus and due to 3rd, IOt involves luxary , movement , and status due to lot of property. The 3rd cusp sub lord becomes Saturan , Venus joining Mercury gives desire to write but Saturan as sub lord gives no ability and even make a person shy and having no courage.** Yogananda life initially was affected by illness; he was miraculously saved as stated in his Autobiography. The reason is child hood is ruled by moon and it has aspect of Rahu the illusion maker and the Gurus Blessings Jupiter in ninth house saved him. ** Jupiterin 9th comes into the mouth of Rahu the Kaal , it will cause loss of life and health both, it can not give age , further it will make him a moderen BABA not yogi , Mercury and Venus dispositing Jupiter and Jupiter joining Rahu that too he is advancing in his mouth with Moon making a trine with him , it will make a good cheat , who will have lot of female persons as her followers and he is decepting others , with his Soul the Sun in the materialistic capricorn , no saving for him. Brill can give you more elaboration on this , because this thing i am doing through Nadi and she is doing good in this. Other persons who had read Core of Nadi astrology can also tell you more for this. Jupiter the Jiva in previos sign has Mars and Saturan both his friends with him , they make him very hard working and prestigeious person ,Mars make him yogi when Ketu crosses Venus , ( it must be around 17th or 18th year of age) breaking his bonds from Venus ( mars is disposits by Venus) Rahu attacked him in the 1st two years of age and was counter attacked by Mars . Jupiter also Disposits Sun and Mercury both , it gives hinm fear of death but that fear turn him towards spritualisim.** When I have just started to learn Astrology I was told that a person will get guru Blessing when and only if Guru is having a link with Ascendant or moon and when I use to see the horoscope of Yogananda ji It use to give me wonders that if Jupiter is in eight house and no link with Ascendant or moon how come he was so much blessed with Guru's. **The 9th cusplord is Moon and Moon is in Ketu star and Sun Sub with KP ayanasha, Ketu is in the 3rd and Sun is in the 5th . Mercury is 9th cusp sublord with your Ayanasha, it joins venus and is in Ketu constelation and Jupiter sub and Jupiter is in 8th cusp in Aries sign. It can give Acadmic as well as occult sciences . But Kp ayanasha will result in Sun related issues and Sun is in 5th house in Sagitarius.** Now I have got the answer to my question, it was because of the wrong Ayanamsha and subsequently horoscope was also wrong. Second house is ruled by (represents money, worldly goods, financial resources) in this chart the second house is influenced by Fifth house (creativity, new undertakings, teacher and instructors), Third house (writing communications, initiatives, short travels, education), Tenth house (career, status, ambitions, royalty, fourth house (Real Estates), Eighth house (wills, Legacies and other people's money), Ninth house (Religion, philosophy, long journeys, foreign people and places), Eleventh house (friends, acquaintances), sixth house (the house of work, health and service to others), seventh House (Partnerships, social appearance, close relationships) and Rahu. Kindly note in any chart if you want to see how well the person financial will be see how many houses are having link with second house in this chart you can see how many houses affects the Yogananda ji position. ***For Acquistion look at 2nd house , its sublord is Saturan and Saturan is in Moon constelation , moon in the 12th, A person full of 12th house things, Mars and Jupiter aspecting him , Jupiter through Mercury constelation , rich due to occult powers , Mars through Saturan star, recluse and rich due to old things , but having no physical possesions. In your ayanasha its sublord is Jupiter , in Ketu constelation and Venus sub and joins with Rahu. Give inheritance property.*** If you Go By Lahiri's Ayanamsha you cannot figure out that he have generated his financial resources by writing a book (Autobiography of a Yogi) because there is no link of third house or its lord with second house but as you change the Ayanamsha you can see second lord and third lord is combined in fifth which could gave him considerable income. Third House is ruled by (writing communications, initiatives, short travels, education). This house is influenced by Fifth house (creativity, new undertakings, teacher and instructors), Eighth house (the house of transformation and spiritual regeneration, occult), Second house (represents money, worldly goods, financial resources) Ninth house (Religion, philosophy, long journeys, foreign people and places), Eleventh house (friends, acquaintances) fourth house (Real Estates, attitude to the past and traditional concepts), Ketu and Rahu You can see Ketu will have a link with third house of a good writer, and when Rahu is having connection with third house Mysticism attracts and according to Lahiri's there is no link of third lord with Rahu so how come he could write so brilliantly on Mystics and Mysticism. *** I had shown the inner strength of this Horoscope with KP new Ayanasha , and i am posting this answer to KPlist also to which your message orignaly belong*** With regards, Inder Jit Sahni I hope, I have conveyed my message to all people on the list With best wishes Tarun Chopra The Horoscope of PARAMAHANSA YOGANANDA -------------------------------- According to "Jyotish", the "Light of God" The Vedic System of Astrology revealed by Vishnu (Almighty God) to our Forefathers in the beginning of this creation. This document is best viewed in a Mono-Spaced (fixed-width) font such as "Courier" font, at size 12 or less. (Unlike Western Astrology, Vedic uses the actual zodiac. Therefore, planetary positions vary from Western Astrology positions by 23 degrees, which often causes a change of sign.) Provided to you by ------------------ Tarun Chopra {Astrologer} House No. 682, Sector-14 Gurgaon, 122001 Haryana, India 91-124-300491 Printed on 19/08/2002 at 21:54 Jyotish software: Goravani Jyotish v2 Based on the data of -------------------- 05/01/1893, at 20:38:00 Vedic Astrology Weekday (Sunrise to Sunrise): Thursday Calendar Weekday: Thursday Users Own: 14:17:28 83 E 23 26 N 47 Standard Time Hours from Greenwich: -5.50 Main Classifications for Paramahansa Yogananda -------------------- Moon Sign: Leo Rising Sign: Leo Sun Sign: Capricorn Moon Star (Nakshatra): Magha Pada (Quarter): 4 Tithi 4th Tithi-Chaturthi of Waning Moon Yoga 4th-Saubhagya Karan 37th-Bava On the day of birth, at the place of birth: Sunrise occured at local time:06:52:59 Sunset occured at local time:17:14:31 The Positions in the Zodiac of the Ascendant, also known as the Lagna, and the Planets, and the Nakshatra (Star) ruling over each. "Ret"='retrograde', meaning backwards moving. Planet Ret Sign (Rasi) Degrees Nakshatras -------------------- Ascendant Leo 15° 21' Purvaphalguni Sun Capricorn 1° 17' Uttarashadha Moon Leo 11° 20' Magha Mars Pisces 21° 23' Revati Mercury Sagittarius 8° 59' Mula Jupiter Aries 1° 55' Ashwini Venus Sagittarius 2° 48' Mula Saturn Virgo 28° 17' Chitra Rahu Aries 20° 45' Bharani Ketu Libra 20° 45' Visakha Uranus Libra 25° 45' Visakha Neptune R Taurus 24° 41' Mrgashira Pluto R Taurus 23° 54' Mrgashira hanskpvedic Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2002 Report Share Posted November 26, 2002 Dear Inder Jit We Both will say that we are right let other people comment on my analysis and your analysis lets see who has done it better is it me or you let other be judge And let me do my work as it is said when you want to fill a bowl of water you have to throw the old or empty bowl can only be filled so those who are practicing astrology will not understand my point because they don't want to let those who want can learn it now onwards I will comment on each chart which will be posted on the list by my own Ayanamsha only Let people believe it or not Best wishes Tarun Chopra > Dear Tarun, > I always avoid discussion on historical charts , because they are mostly > made by Astrologers using their experience. But you pressed me to look at > the horoscope of Yogananda and i am great full to you to look at this chart. > I am really surprised to see the inner strength this chart has and i am > sorry about you that you can not look at these things. > > Read below my comments in** ** > ---------------- > I have observed a change in the Paramahansa Yogananda; chart > according to my Ayanamsha, I would like to discuss those changes with > the list. > > The change is that Venus which was in fourth house has moved into > fifth house, sun the lord of Lagna which was in fifth house is now in > Sixth house, Jupiter the lord of eight and fifth which was in eight > house has moved into ninth house. > ** This could be in the Rashi chart, the Cusp chart will remain the same, > for all ayanasha changes you may come with , Moon will move to 12th, sat to > 2nd, ketu to 3rd , venus and mercury in 4rth house sun in 5th house , mars > jupiter in 8th and Rahu in 9th. > Incidently the Cusp lords of all the houses remain the same with KP ayanasha > we are using and with your 's ayanasha.** > Now I will try to analyze the chart of Shri Paramahansa, Yogananda > > I shall start with the first house, (personality, person temperament). > > When Yogananda ji was born Leo Ascendant was on eastern Horizon and > its Lord in sixth house, the sign Capricorn. In Ascendant the lord of > 12th house is placed and Ascendant is having aspect of the fifth, > eight Lord Jupiter and Rahu. > ** Aries Leo and Sagitarius trine is connected with relegion , Sun (Soul ) > gains Kingship at one point wisdom at another and reach at its peak in the > 3rd in the liberated and pure mode. It justifies Leo ascendent of a yogi** > Any individual life path can be traced by analyzing the Ascendant > only; Here Ascendant is influenced by sixth house (the house of work, > health and service to others). Eighth house (the house of > transformation and spiritual regeneration, occult). Fifth house (the > house of creativity, of self-expression, Teachings). Twelfth house > (foreign residency, seclusion), Rahu (fanaticism, mysticisms). We > know that Yogananda ji life has revolved around these aspects of life > only. > **Basic cusp chart acts as a mother board in computer and other planets as > processor. > With Kp ayanasha the Ascendent is ruled by Sun Sign lord , Ketu as > constelation lord and Rahu becomes the sub lord. These three becomes the > main parameters of this horoscope, Sun the Soul is in the 2nd point of his > activity from Kigship to wisdom, Mercury the intelect giving planet joins > this Soul by effecting through liberation significator Ketu(merc in ketu > constelation) and opposing for the married life through Saturan another > euench planet lying in his sign.. How Sun will justify all this with his > placement in capricorn , i can not understand. Constelation lord Ketu is in > the 3rd in theconstelation of another in the 9th. > The sublord Rahu is in Ketu constelation and Merc Sub , Merc again is in the > constelation of Ketu in the 3rd. A person born with highest understanding of > relegeion and a born writer. A great thinker. > > Now turn to your Ayanasha , it will make him a family man a man after money > and sex, the constelation lord becomes Venus and sub lord too is venus > ,Venus joins Mercury in 4rth cusp in Sagitarius , through Ketu it represent > 3rd house due to 10th , whose lord is venus and due to 3rd, IOt involves > luxary , movement , and status due to lot of property. > The 3rd cusp sub lord becomes Saturan , Venus joining Mercury gives desire > to write but Saturan as sub lord gives no ability and even make a person shy > and having no courage.** > > Yogananda life initially was affected by illness; he was miraculously > saved as stated in his Autobiography. The reason is child hood is > ruled by moon and it has aspect of Rahu the illusion maker and the > Gurus Blessings Jupiter in ninth house saved him. > ** Jupiterin 9th comes into the mouth of Rahu the Kaal , it will cause loss > of life and health both, it can not give age , further it will make him a > moderen BABA not yogi , Mercury and Venus dispositing Jupiter and Jupiter > joining Rahu that too he is advancing in his mouth with Moon making a trine > with him , it will make a good cheat , who will have lot of female persons > as her followers and he is decepting others , with his Soul the Sun in the > materialistic capricorn , no saving for him. > Brill can give you more elaboration on this , because this thing i am doing > through Nadi and she is doing good in this. Other persons who had read Core > of Nadi astrology can also tell you more for this. > Jupiter the Jiva in previos sign has Mars and Saturan both his friends with > him , they make him very hard working and prestigeious person ,Mars make him > yogi when Ketu crosses Venus , ( it must be around 17th or 18th year of age) > breaking his bonds from Venus ( mars is disposits by Venus) Rahu attacked > him in the 1st two years of age and was counter attacked by Mars . Jupiter > also Disposits Sun and Mercury both , it gives hinm fear of death but that > fear turn him towards spritualisim.** > > When I have just started to learn Astrology I was told that a person > will get guru Blessing when and only if Guru is having a link with > Ascendant or moon and when I use to see the horoscope of Yogananda ji > It use to give me wonders that if Jupiter is in eight house and no > link with Ascendant or moon how come he was so much blessed with > Guru's. > **The 9th cusplord is Moon and Moon is in Ketu star and Sun Sub with KP > ayanasha, > Ketu is in the 3rd and Sun is in the 5th . > Mercury is 9th cusp sublord with your Ayanasha, it joins venus and is in > Ketu constelation and Jupiter sub and Jupiter is in 8th cusp in Aries sign. > It can give Acadmic as well as occult sciences . But Kp ayanasha will result > in Sun related issues and Sun is in 5th house in Sagitarius.** > Now I have got the answer to my question, it was because of the wrong > Ayanamsha and subsequently horoscope was also wrong. > > Second house is ruled by (represents money, worldly goods, financial > resources) in this chart the second house is influenced by Fifth > house (creativity, new undertakings, teacher and instructors), Third > house (writing communications, initiatives, short travels, > education), Tenth house (career, status, ambitions, royalty, fourth > house (Real Estates), Eighth house (wills, Legacies and other > people's money), Ninth house (Religion, philosophy, long journeys, > foreign people and places), Eleventh house (friends, acquaintances), > sixth house (the house of work, health and service to others), > seventh House (Partnerships, social appearance, close relationships) > and Rahu. > > > > Kindly note in any chart if you want to see how well the person > financial will be see how many houses are having link with second > house in this chart you can see how many houses affects the Yogananda > ji position. > ***For Acquistion look at 2nd house , its sublord is Saturan and Saturan is > in Moon constelation , moon in the 12th, A person full of 12th house things, > Mars and Jupiter aspecting him , Jupiter through Mercury constelation , rich > due to occult powers , Mars through Saturan star, recluse and rich due to > old things , but having no physical possesions. > > In your ayanasha its sublord is Jupiter , in Ketu constelation and Venus sub > and joins with Rahu. Give inheritance property.*** > If you Go By Lahiri's Ayanamsha you cannot figure out that he have > generated his financial resources by writing a book (Autobiography of > a Yogi) because there is no link of third house or its lord with > second house but as you change the Ayanamsha you can see second lord > and third lord is combined in fifth which could gave him considerable > income. > > > Third House is ruled by (writing communications, initiatives, short > travels, education). This house is influenced by Fifth house > (creativity, new undertakings, teacher and instructors), Eighth house > (the house of transformation and spiritual regeneration, occult), > Second house (represents money, worldly goods, financial resources) > Ninth house (Religion, philosophy, long journeys, foreign people and > places), Eleventh house (friends, acquaintances) fourth house (Real > Estates, attitude to the past and traditional concepts), Ketu and Rahu > > You can see Ketu will have a link with third house of a good writer, > and when Rahu is having connection with third house Mysticism > attracts and according to Lahiri's there is no link of third lord > with Rahu so how come he could write so brilliantly on Mystics and > Mysticism. > > *** I had shown the inner strength of this Horoscope with KP new Ayanasha , > and i am posting this answer to KPlist also to which your message orignaly > belong*** > > > With regards, > Inder Jit Sahni > I hope, I have conveyed my message to all people on the list > > With best wishes > > Tarun Chopra > > > The Horoscope of > PARAMAHANSA YOGANANDA > -------------------------------- > According to "Jyotish", the "Light of God" > The Vedic System of Astrology revealed by > Vishnu (Almighty God) to our Forefathers > in the beginning of this creation. > > This document is best viewed in a > Mono-Spaced (fixed-width) font such > as "Courier" font, at size 12 or less. > > (Unlike Western Astrology, Vedic uses the actual > zodiac. Therefore, planetary positions vary > from Western Astrology positions by 23 degrees, > which often causes a change of sign.) > > Provided to you by > ------------------ > Tarun Chopra {Astrologer} > House No. 682, Sector-14 > Gurgaon, 122001 > Haryana, India > 91-124-300491 > Printed on 19/08/2002 at 21:54 > Jyotish software: Goravani Jyotish v2 > > Based on the data of > -------------------- > 05/01/1893, at 20:38:00 > > Vedic Astrology Weekday (Sunrise to Sunrise): Thursday > Calendar Weekday: Thursday > Users Own: 14:17:28 > > 83 E 23 26 N 47 > Standard Time Hours from Greenwich: -5.50 > > Main Classifications for Paramahansa Yogananda > -------------------- > Moon Sign: Leo > Rising Sign: Leo > Sun Sign: Capricorn > Moon Star (Nakshatra): Magha Pada (Quarter): 4 > Tithi 4th Tithi-Chaturthi of Waning Moon > Yoga 4th-Saubhagya > Karan 37th-Bava > > On the day of birth, at the place of birth: > Sunrise occured at local time:06:52:59 > Sunset occured at local time:17:14:31 > > The Positions in the Zodiac of the Ascendant, > also known as the Lagna, and the Planets, > and the Nakshatra (Star) ruling over each. > "Ret"='retrograde', meaning backwards moving. > > Planet Ret Sign (Rasi) Degrees Nakshatras > -------------------- > Ascendant Leo 15° 21' Purvaphalguni > Sun Capricorn 1° 17' Uttarashadha > Moon Leo 11° 20' Magha > Mars Pisces 21° 23' Revati > Mercury Sagittarius 8° 59' Mula > Jupiter Aries 1° 55' Ashwini > Venus Sagittarius 2° 48' Mula > Saturn Virgo 28° 17' Chitra > Rahu Aries 20° 45' Bharani > Ketu Libra 20° 45' Visakha > Uranus Libra 25° 45' Visakha > Neptune R Taurus 24° 41' Mrgashira > Pluto R Taurus 23° 54' Mrgashira > > > > > > hanskpvedic- > > > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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