Saturn and A. Lynn's views.

[Guest guest]

Andrew:

"We are better off materially and finacially now...... In India and

particulary Pakistan, children and women still suffer greatly and to think

it was better in the past is a pipe dream. Bonded labour and child slavery

are still rampant all over Asia. "

 

D.:

I'm glad someone got around to pointing this out. And that it wasn't me. And

once again, I will say, go have a look at Sita Agrawal's piece on

www.dalitstan.com under the on-line books section. She's writing of the

philosopical views that she feels led to her sister's murder via satee by

her in-laws in a dowry fight...goeds a bit over board in my opinion. I think

the chick's in-laws were flat out psycohpaths using religion as a way to

have their way.

 

It isn't pointed out very often,either, that prostituition is rampant in

Israel b/c there is no room much less work for the new arrivals from the

Societ Union and other places. It's over crowed, expensive and jobs are hard

o come by sometimes. I'm saying women have problems all over. Children too.

 

Andrew:

"It is a fact that many Indians and Asians would pack up and move

to a western country in five minutes if given a chance. Our countries have

welfare, health care, clean water, sanitation and a standard of living far

superior to that found in their countries. That is a fact. .....Who wants

wisdom if living in a rubbish bin??"

 

D:

No kidding. I've often wondered, why India is such a labyrinth, while Japan

and China are so..organized? All those J & C ducks line up in a row.,

metaphorically speaking. The literacy rate is so much high in either of

those countries, China and Japan. Why? Is it racial? Is it martial law in

China? What? I wish it would rub off on the Indians, for their

sakes..Sewers are great things to have aren't they? So is indoor plumbing.

Why isn't there an Indian VISTA/PEACE CORP to deal with this? Why not

inscription of young people instead of to the army to a WPA/CCC/ education

for literacy programs, to build roads and sewers and decent living quarters

and tolearn to read in exchange for education? Either for them or other

family members? Hey, why not more or it here, too?

 

 

Andrew:

"The biggest problems in western countries are the people constantly

bagging, carping and whining about their own country instead of being bloody

grateful for the great standard of living they have.

 

D:

I think we're aiming for Utopia, so we kvetch. Nothing wrong with

improvement Andrew. Unless it's compulsive, like always dumping out ash

trays, I supose.

 

Andrew:

"Now India is a country of great

spiritual wisdom for sure but so was ancient Scotland, France, Thailand,

Cambodia etc etc."

 

D:

No argument there. But tell it to the Khmeer Rouge if any are left. They

seem to have missed that point these days. So have the Burmese/Myramarians.

Ever notice how the worls sorta divides into "we're the smartest,they're

the smartest, so do evrything they do". And then ther'e the "who cares

group."

 

Andrew:

"Material comfort is totally important in life."

 

D:

Yeah, Maslow's Pyramid. Food, shelter and clothing first, and then afte tht

is settled, we have time to deal with the rest of it.

 

I agree with Richard Houck and you too over the astrology importance, too.

It so often feels like how many angles can cance on the head of a pin sort

of thing? And you can't ge an accurate thing without a birthtime. You know,

some peope--in one novel, and I doubt that it didn't happen--used to think

just reading--no, just opening a Bible would keep you from catching a

disease passsing through the air. When soap and water would have done

better...I seriuosly wonder about medical astrology becasue of it. Better to

study medicine, anatomy, Chinese or auyervedic or whatever that directly

deals with it. Your birthday doesn't enter so much not it.Yes, it does some

in those, however. .More your medical history. Empirical evidence.

 

Keep eating your dark green veggies and the orange ones, A.

 

Best Wishes,

 

D.

[Guest guest]

> her in-laws in a dowry fight...goeds a bit over board in my opinion. I

think

> the chick's in-laws were flat out psycohpaths using religion as a way to

> have their way.

 

 

Look, I had this Indian boy come to me for a reading and I warned him about

getting married. I told him his parents had too much control over him and he

needed to break free of the shackles of his fathers hold on him. He was in

his 30's!! Anyway, he returned to India and his parents forced him to marry

this girl they had chosen for him. Local astrologers proclaimed this girl as

his dream girl. To cut a long sordid story short, the moment she touched

down in Melbourne she claimed this guy was bashing her and ran away to stay

with relatives. She immediately took a restraining order against him and

applied for residency on the grounds she was abused and could not return

home because she would lose face etc. This is more common than people would

like to admit and the usual flanker is the man is a dud and can't father

children or is an abuser. This guy now feels a fool as he was just used to

get a visa. He has Mars in the 8th house which can be a bad indicator for

marriage in any chart.

 

 

 

> It isn't pointed out very often,either, that prostituition is rampant in

> Israel b/c there is no room much less work for the new arrivals from the

> Societ Union and other places. It's over crowed, expensive and jobs are

hard

> o come by sometimes. I'm saying women have problems all over. Children

too.

 

 

I myself have a serious problem with the overseas Chinese in South East

Asia. I am usually very tough in what I can take but some of the rampant

exploitation I have seen from them has left me sick in the stomach. This is

more so if it involves children. The way I see it, there are two types in

the world,- givers or takers who will exploit anything or anybody in the

name of a dollar. That is not to say we don't have this is our own countries

(we have more than our share). The problem in Asia is simply the corruption

where the wealthy and privileged just seem to feel they can do anything

without any repercussions as they have everybody paid off. I remember 15

years ago catching the bus from South Thailand to Kuala Lumpar and I met

these two young Thai girls of about 16 on the bus. They told me they were

going to Singapore to work as domestic help for some Chinese family. They

were with this old Chinese guy who I immediately saw as an evil exploiter

like a rat with gold teeth. He was wearing a very expensive suit and posing

as a respectable businessman type. He started to panic and sweat when he saw

me talking with these two girls in the Thai language and tried to drag them

away. These girls were totally innocent and I knew they were headed for

sexual slavery. To complain to the Police would have probably got me

arrested and not the old guy because the cops would have been getting a

sling somewhere along the line. When the bus stopped at this old roadhouse I

saw this Chinese guy go out the back for a slash and for the first time in

my life I considered bashing someone as he was close to a Klong (creek). I

wanted to bash and rob him, then throw him in the creek and use his money to

pay for the two young girls to get back home. I still think to this day I

should have done it. I would now for sure as I have enough influence from

relatives to get me out of jail - especially for protecting local girls.

 

Pundit Navaratnam has just called wanting me to come for a visit so I will

cut this short. I could tell you many many stories like the one above and

many are far worse than this. At every occasion it has been Chinese mafia

types involved. I was actually run down and left for dead on the side of the

road by a Triad bosses henchman. I fought a court case against this Chinese

guy in Thailand that went for 10 years. He was the shiftiest slimiest person

I have come across. Before the case was over he was murdered, his brother

was murdered and then his son flew back from America and too was shot the

day he got off the plane. I don't know who was behind it but now suspect it

was his own partner ripping him off and trying to put the blame on us who

were suing him. I could tell you so many other stories about Thailand and

the Phillipines as a guy I know was in the palace with Marcos when he had to

flee. The U.S had sent in a team of commandos to get them out and Marcos and

Imelda were just trying to stuff as much cash and gold as they could into

the helicopter. My mate said everybody was screaming at them to leave it and

go as the bloodthirsty crowd was already storming the palace. Greed has no

end with these types. Our society here in Australia fortunately is very

vigilant and zealous at policing our politicions and business people. They

still steal millions, but Marcos, Suharto, The Sultan and others take

decadence to a very high level. Then there is the issue of who supports them

and keeps them in power- and where all the stolen money ends up. Lets leave

it at this and return to astrology. Every country and every race has its

good and bad points. It is hypocrisy and denial of problems that concerns me

about some Asian and Arab countries. In the west we at least take some steps

at confronting the issues publically. There is a "head in the sand" approach

in many Asian countries where the leaders claim the problems of the west do

not exist in their countries. Utter nonsense..........

 

Andrew