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.. Yet I

> cannot ignore history. And nearly 30 years ago, I fought for what seemed

an

> ungrateful

> nation, along with thousands of other young men. But it wasn't

ungrateful -

> it was

> confused - as we were - about WHY we were fighting. This time we know.

 

Right, that is if you know that the present administration wants to further

its control of the supply of oil reserves in the Persian Gulf. Saddam is a

sideshow clown created by the CIA who has turned over a nasty new leaf. To

figure out the other aspects of this crisis, ask youself the questions: who

elected Bush, who are his main backers? Why is there so much support for

Bush's war plan? I can't answer that question, but I think it something to

do with the innate human desire to trust others. This is however naive in

the extreme, the way a Pisces trusts an Aries and ends up holding the bag

-- with all due apologies to both of those signs.

 

This Iraq war is an out and out money grab by the Bush junta, only the

constant repetition by the media machine gives it a chance of being

accepted by the populace. The whole "war on terror" reeks of a scam, too

huge to even contemplate.

 

Fortunately there are a growing number of people who are questioning the

official version of events as they are spun by the White House and their

courtiers in the mainstream media. The offical version of what happened on

9-11 itself has lingering inconsistencies which forces one, me included, to

wonder if there might be a larger plan behind all of this suffering.

 

If you have had nagging doubts about what is going on in the world lately,

about why it is that the formerly beleaguered Bush now rides high in the

polls and how he and its friends stand to gain the most when this grand

shakeout occurs, then I invite you to check out these websites that are

still asking the tough questions and compiling the real facts.

 

http://www.questionsquestions.net

 

http://www.unansweredquestions.org

 

 

Check out the Paul Thompson timeline there -- it is an encyclopedic

overview of the origins of the present conflict with the Arab world and

provides important commentary of significant events leading up to and

including 9-11 and its aftermath.

 

Sorry if this topic has been ruled off limits. I couldn't help myself.

FWIW, I don't wholly to all of the ideas in those sites, but I

feel there is so little critical thinking going on in the US right now,

people really need to get a look at more points of view and mostly, more

facts than CNN decides to feed you!!!

 

Chris

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Christopher, and others,

 

>

> Christopher Kevill [christopher.kevill]

> Friday, October 18, 2002 6:29 PM

> gjlist

> Re: [GJ] Another apology/Bush's war on Iraq

>

>

>

> . Yet I

> > cannot ignore history. And nearly 30 years ago, I fought

> > for what seemed an ungrateful nation, along with thousands

> > of other young men. But it wasn't ungrateful - it was confused -

> > as we were - about WHY we were fighting. This time we know.

>

> Right, that is if you know that the present administration

> wants to further its control of the supply of oil reserves in the Persian

> Gulf. Saddam is a sideshow clown created by the CIA who has turned

> over a nasty new leaf. To figure out the other aspects of this crisis,

ask

> youself the questions: who elected Bush, who are his main backers?

> Why is there so much support for Bush's war plan? I can't answer that

> question, but I think it something to do with the innate human desire to

> trust others. This is however naive in the extreme, the way a Pisces

> trusts an Aries and ends up holding the bag -- with all due apologies to

> both of those signs.

>

I agree that Saddam is a clown. The "first" Gulf War proved that - but,

this

in NO WAY negates the fact that he is dangerous. Neither does the fact

that WE put him in power (at the time it SEEMED like a good idea) negate

the fact that he needs to be removed. I am talking about simple common

sense. You are talking about alleged greed. I HAVE met Mr. Bush, he is

a decent man. He listens to his advisors. He does what he believes to be

the right thing - this in spite of the fact that it may be unpopular. By

the way,

are you a Democrat? I'll bet my shoes you are. But this has nothing to do

with that. Do you actually think there are no Democrat oil barons? Ever

heard

of Lyndon Johnson? THAT is the SOB responsible for nearly 55,000 dead

Americans in Vietnam. Don't talk to me about oil interests. It ahs nothing

to

do with this, though I'll agree there might - MIGHT - be some benefit in

that

area to US oil interests.

 

> This Iraq war is an out and out money grab by the Bush junta, only the

> constant repetition by the media machine gives it a chance of being

> accepted by the populace. The whole "war on terror" reeks of

> a scam, too huge to even contemplate.

>

You, sir, are full of shit. My suggestion to you is to go live in Iraq if

you think

Saddam is such a benevolent soul. Perhaps you can help Saddam protect his

precious oil from Mr. Bush.

 

> Fortunately there are a growing number of people who are

> questioning the official version of events as they are spun by the White

> House and their courtiers in the mainstream media. The offical version of

 

> what happened on 9-11 itself has lingering inconsistencies which forces

one,

> me included, to wonder if there might be a larger plan behind all of this

suffering.

>

That's not what I am hearing hear. And as far as 9/11 is concerned, if you

are

suggesting that the US government ALLOWED or assisted in that, I KNOW you're

 

full of shit! As far as "spin" is concerned, the Media creates whatever

spin they

think will sell the most newspapers in print, or toilet paper on TV and

radio. I

trust reporters only slightly more than I do most lawyers.

 

> If you have had nagging doubts about what is going on in the

> world lately, about why it is that the formerly beleaguered Bush now rides

 

> high in the polls and how he and its friends stand to gain the most when

> this grand shakeout occurs, then I invite you to check out these

> websites that are still asking the tough questions and compiling the real

facts.

>

Mr. Bush has been among the most popular Presidents, including Bill Clinton

-

Now THERE's a thief for you - a pure D bald-faced liar.

 

> http://www.questionsquestions.net

>

> http://www.unansweredquestions.org

>

>

> Check out the Paul Thompson timeline there -- it is an encyclopedic

> overview of the origins of the present conflict with the Arab

> world and provides important commentary of significant events leading up

to and

> including 9-11 and its aftermath.

>

Much of this slag is taken out of context - I will demonstrate this later

this weekend -

right now, I have to go eat.

 

> Sorry if this topic has been ruled off limits. I couldn't

> help myself. FWIW, I don't wholly to all of the ideas in those

 

> sites, but I feel there is so little critical thinking going on in the US

> right now, people really need to get a look at more points of view and

> mostly, more facts than CNN decides to feed you!!!

>

As far as I know it's not off-limits, but it would be better discussed at:

 

PolDebates

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> Chris

>

Oh - and MY apologies to anyone offended - sometimes ya just get

your dander up...

 

Best Regards,

Martin Michaels

-----------------------

Sr. Systems Analyst

Nirvana Consulting

gadgetcoder

 

'This work we do,

It's not "rocket science"...

It's much, MUCH harder.'

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Dear Martin ~

Your passion for politics is a deep dive into very shallow waters.

I can tell you believe very strongly in what you're saying since you are

so rude when you express yourself. Sad indeed - since you have

swallowed ... hook ... line and sinker ... the propaganda fed to the

public through CNN and other major networks.

It's insane to believe that War like measures can lead to peace.

This war is about Oil and power and greed and nothing more

substantial than the personal agenda of the Oil families of the United

States and the other countries politicians who struggle to control their

countries resources. George W. Bush picked up exactly where his

father had left off when he lost the Presidential election to

Clinton.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

Chandra

~

 

At 05:21 PM 10/18/02, you wrote:

Christopher, and others,

>

> Christopher Kevill

[christopher.kevill (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca]

> Friday, October 18, 2002 6:29 PM

> gjlist

> Re: [GJ] Another apology/Bush's war on Iraq

>

>

>

> . Yet I

> > cannot ignore history. And nearly 30 years ago, I fought

> > for what seemed an ungrateful nation, along with thousands

> > of other young men. But it wasn't ungrateful - it was

confused -

> > as we were - about WHY we were fighting. This time we

know.

>

> Right, that is if you know that the present administration

> wants to further its control of the supply of oil reserves in the

Persian

> Gulf. Saddam is a sideshow clown created by the CIA who has

turned

> over a nasty new leaf. To figure out the other aspects of this

crisis,

ask

> youself the questions: who elected Bush, who are his main

backers?

> Why is there so much support for Bush's war plan? I can't

answer that

> question, but I think it something to do with the innate human

desire to

> trust others. This is however naive in the extreme, the way a Pisces

> trusts an Aries and ends up holding the bag -- with all due

apologies to

> both of those signs.

>

I agree that Saddam is a clown. The "first" Gulf War

proved that - but,

this

in NO WAY negates the fact that he is dangerous. Neither does the

fact

that WE put him in power (at the time it SEEMED like a good idea) negate

the fact that he needs to be removed. I am talking about simple

common

sense. You are talking about alleged greed. I HAVE met Mr.

Bush, he is

a decent man. He listens to his advisors. He does what he

believes to be

the right thing - this in spite of the fact that it may be

unpopular. By

the way,

are you a Democrat? I'll bet my shoes you are. But this has

nothing to do

with that. Do you actually think there are no Democrat oil

barons? Ever

heard

of Lyndon Johnson? THAT is the SOB responsible for nearly 55,000

dead

Americans in Vietnam. Don't talk to me about oil interests.

It ahs nothing

to

do with this, though I'll agree there might - MIGHT - be some benefit

in

that

area to US oil interests.

> This Iraq war is an out and out money grab by the Bush junta, only

the

> constant repetition by the media machine gives it a chance of

being

> accepted by the populace. The whole "war on terror"

reeks of

> a scam, too huge to even contemplate.

>

You, sir, are full of shit. My suggestion to you is to go live in

Iraq if

you think

Saddam is such a benevolent soul. Perhaps you can help Saddam

protect his

precious oil from Mr. Bush.

> Fortunately there are a growing number of people who are

> questioning the official version of events as they are spun by the

White

> House and their courtiers in the mainstream media. The offical

version of

> what happened on 9-11 itself has lingering inconsistencies which

forces

one,

> me included, to wonder if there might be a larger plan behind all of

this

suffering.

>

That's not what I am hearing hear. And as far as 9/11 is concerned,

if you

are

suggesting that the US government ALLOWED or assisted in that, I KNOW

you're

full of shit! As far as "spin" is concerned, the Media

creates whatever

spin they

think will sell the most newspapers in print, or toilet paper on TV

and

radio. I

trust reporters only slightly more than I do most lawyers.

> If you have had nagging doubts about what is going on in the

> world lately, about why it is that the formerly beleaguered Bush now

rides

> high in the polls and how he and its friends stand to gain the most

when

> this grand shakeout occurs, then I invite you to check out these

> websites that are still asking the tough questions and compiling the

real

facts.

>

Mr. Bush has been among the most popular Presidents, including Bill

Clinton

-

Now THERE's a thief for you - a pure D bald-faced liar.

>

http://www.questionsquestions.net

>

>

http://www.unansweredquestions.org

>

>

> Check out the Paul Thompson timeline there -- it is an

encyclopedic

> overview of the origins of the present conflict with the Arab

> world and provides important commentary of significant events

leading up

to and

> including 9-11 and its aftermath.

>

Much of this slag is taken out of context - I will demonstrate this

later

this weekend -

right now, I have to go eat.

> Sorry if this topic has been ruled off limits. I couldn't

> help myself. FWIW, I don't wholly to all of

the ideas in those

> sites, but I feel there is so little critical thinking going on in

the US

> right now, people really need to get a look at more points of view

and

> mostly, more facts than CNN decides to feed you!!!

>

As far as I know it's not off-limits, but it would be better discussed

at:

PolDebates

Group email:

PolDebates

Post message: PolDebates

Subscribe:

PolDebates-

Un:

PolDebates

List owner:

PolDebates-owner

> Chris

>

Oh - and MY apologies to anyone offended - sometimes ya just get

your dander up...

Best Regards,

Martin Michaels

-----------------------

Sr. Systems Analyst

Nirvana Consulting

gadgetcoder

'This work we do,

It's not "rocket science"...

It's much, MUCH harder.'

 

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

: gjlist-

 

 

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